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Post by ahglock on Jul 11, 2020 1:06:37 GMT
I am not even sure it needs that level of protection though. The Reapers were insanely powerful but it was never implied they were all knowing. It doesn't matter how thorough you are some shit on a literally galactic scale will slip through the cracks. It does make the sheer scale of time this has been going on much more difficult to buy into, though. Like, if the reapers have been at it for as long as the story seems to suggest, they should have failed a long time ago, what with as much as what evaded them in even a single cycle. Heck, in a single cycle, the remnants of a civilization managed to not only successfully hide from them, but also sabotage their entire trap and successfully convey a warning to the following cycle. If that can happen, a lot more would have happened over a much broader span of time. Maybe. How many cumulative cycles do you need to build up anything worthwhile. During those cycles you just need one cycle to put forth the found knowledge in a place where the Reapers easily see and destroy it to have all that cumulative knowledge disappear. Sure there are 20,000ish cycles but if it takes 100 to build up enough to really work with that's only a few hundred or so times a cycle somewhere screwed up enough to toss the amassed knowledge in the garbage.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 11, 2020 17:40:36 GMT
It does make the sheer scale of time this has been going on much more difficult to buy into, though. Like, if the reapers have been at it for as long as the story seems to suggest, they should have failed a long time ago, what with as much as what evaded them in even a single cycle. Heck, in a single cycle, the remnants of a civilization managed to not only successfully hide from them, but also sabotage their entire trap and successfully convey a warning to the following cycle. If that can happen, a lot more would have happened over a much broader span of time. Maybe. How many cumulative cycles do you need to build up anything worthwhile. During those cycles you just need one cycle to put forth the found knowledge in a place where the Reapers easily see and destroy it to have all that cumulative knowledge disappear. Sure there are 20,000ish cycles but if it takes 100 to build up enough to really work with that's only a few hundred or so times a cycle somewhere screwed up enough to toss the amassed knowledge in the garbage. Agreed let's no tforget that the Reapers though they had destroyed th ecrucible plans a fwe cycles befoer we discovered them and built it so it goes to show even AI can make mistakes.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 13, 2020 12:59:05 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 13, 2020 17:54:50 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing. I already do. Unless more concrete information comes along I'm treating it as nothing more than a thought exercise.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 13, 2020 18:04:22 GMT
I already do. Unless more concrete information comes along I'm treating it as nothing more than a thought exercise. I think we'll be getting a remake instead, eventually. But it will also be a recast, which will also kill my interest in the games. Because, while you can keep the characters and their writing intact, if you don't recast them, but recasting them guarantees we get a "different" brand of the same characters that will be nothing like what we loved. They will be called "better" and some people will try to convince others so, how they were fixed for being problematic before, like they did with Jaheira in Siege of Dragonspear, for example and that will kill fan interest in the games and that will kill ME for good. I can tell you, the moment I hear "recast", I'm out. Hell, even "reimagined" for the characters would be enough to get me out. "Reimagined" specifically for ME3 would get me cautiously optimistic. But I am anecdotal. How many more anecdotes are there, I wonder.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 13, 2020 21:29:52 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing. I have seen people saying it wasn't regarding EA Play, but N7 day in November that it was going to be announced. When N7 Day rolls around it will have been pointed to the EA event that happens with E3 2021 and so on. For me I have never really believed the article it didn't even feel like they tried they just threw random words together with Mass Effect and got the uptick in clicks they wanted.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 13, 2020 21:34:16 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing. I have seen people saying it wasn't regarding EA Play, but N7 day in November that it was going to be announced. When N7 Day rolls around it will have been pointed to the EA event that happens with E3 2021 and so on. For me I have never really believed the article it didn't even feel like they tried they just threw random words together with Mass Effect and got the uptick in clicks they wanted. That seems highly unlikely they'll wait that long; especially with that being the holiday rush.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 13, 2020 21:50:31 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing. I alread ydo because if i twere happening EA would have likel;y said something by now.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 13, 2020 21:59:04 GMT
I have seen people saying it wasn't regarding EA Play, but N7 day in November that it was going to be announced. When N7 Day rolls around it will have been pointed to the EA event that happens with E3 2021 and so on. For me I have never really believed the article it didn't even feel like they tried they just threw random words together with Mass Effect and got the uptick in clicks they wanted. That seems highly unlikely they'll wait that long; especially with that being the holiday rush. I agree, its just what I have seen people posting online.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2020 12:42:46 GMT
I have seen people saying it wasn't regarding EA Play, but N7 day in November that it was going to be announced. When N7 Day rolls around it will have been pointed to the EA event that happens with E3 2021 and so on. If it's going to be a fall release, it would have to be announced and released on the same day. The only time, in recent memory, that had happened with an EA game, was with Apex legends. And it made sense for Apex Legends, because it was a f2p online only game, that was marketed by streamers, on release day, because it was a battle royale game. It doesn't make sense for ME to get that marketing treatment. Especially with the release of new consoles and launch games for those consoles. As you've accurately pointed out, they're delusional, at the very least. But ... N7 day would be a good day to announce a proper Remake for the ME trilogy. Not a remaster, a remake, that treads new ground, while keeping everything that was liked from the original. Like keeping the characters and the cast behind the characters, adding cut content and, since we would sell it as a single pack, all three games, developing them with gated content, because of those choices. To be released in 2026-7, 2-3 years after the release of DA4, giving it ample time to be developed.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 14, 2020 18:20:47 GMT
I have seen people saying it wasn't regarding EA Play, but N7 day in November that it was going to be announced. When N7 Day rolls around it will have been pointed to the EA event that happens with E3 2021 and so on. If it's going to be a fall release, it would have to be announced and released on the same day. The only time, in recent memory, that had happened with an EA game, was with Apex legends. And it made sense for Apex Legends, because it was a f2p online only game, that was marketed by streamers, on release day, because it was a battle royale game. It doesn't make sense for ME to get that marketing treatment. Especially with the release of new consoles and launch games for those consoles. As you've accurately pointed out, they're delusional, at the very least. But ... N7 day would be a good day to announce a proper Remake for the ME trilogy. Not a remaster, a remake, that treads new ground, while keeping everything that was liked from the original. Like keeping the characters and the cast behind the characters, adding cut content and, since we would sell it as a single pack, all three games, developing them with gated content, because of those choices. To be released in 2026-7, 2-3 years after the release of DA4, giving it ample time to be developed. Burnout Paradise Remaster had the closest between announcement and release from what I remember, but yeah they're not going to announce/release a big Remaster like this.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 15, 2020 15:43:07 GMT
If it's coming this fall there's plenty of time to announce and release the game between September and December, would be nice if it releases in November 7 but that's unlikely because it's a saturday. They could announce it at any of those events: GDC Summer (Aug 4-6) SIGGRAPH (Aug 24-28) GamesCom (Aug 27-30) PAX Online (Sep 12-20) Dreamhack Atlanta (Nov 13-15) PAX Unplugged (Nov 20-22) Dreamhack Winter (Nov 26-29) There's plenty of others between those. www.eventsforgamers.com/
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 15, 2020 16:38:03 GMT
If it's coming this fall there's plenty of time to announce and release the game between September and December, would be nice if it releases in November 7 but that's unlikely because it's a saturday. They could announce it at any of those events: GDC Summer (Aug 4-6) SIGGRAPH (Aug 24-28) GamesCom (Aug 27-30) PAX Online (Sep 12-20) Dreamhack Atlanta (Nov 13-15) PAX Unplugged (Nov 20-22) Dreamhack Winter (Nov 26-29) There's plenty of others between those. www.eventsforgamers.com/I doubt many of those are going to happen this year due to COVID, for I think the PAX events have already been cancelled.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jul 15, 2020 18:17:25 GMT
If it's coming this fall there's plenty of time to announce and release the game between September and December, would be nice if it releases in November 7 but that's unlikely because it's a saturday. They could announce it at any of those events: GDC Summer (Aug 4-6) SIGGRAPH (Aug 24-28) GamesCom (Aug 27-30) PAX Online (Sep 12-20) Dreamhack Atlanta (Nov 13-15) PAX Unplugged (Nov 20-22) Dreamhack Winter (Nov 26-29) There's plenty of others between those. www.eventsforgamers.com/I doubt many of those are going to happen this year due to COVID, for I think the PAX events have already been cancelled. A lot of the events are online so it's not a problem.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 15, 2020 19:00:49 GMT
I was thinking: at what point do we call this Remaster a fake? It's been weeks since EA Play and still nothing. If it does exist, this silence is not filling me with optimism about it's quality. I'm veering towards it being a low effort port that will likely come out all weird and fucked up like the Arkham remaster.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 15, 2020 19:41:04 GMT
I doubt many of those are going to happen this year due to COVID, for I think the PAX events have already been cancelled. A lot of the events are online so it's not a problem. Not necessarily need an event to announce either.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 22, 2020 5:40:25 GMT
From Resetera: GarladorWake me in November. SofNascimentoI believe Shinobi said it would be revealed before then. shinobi602Correct. Also...shinobi602It was never the plan to announce the ME remaster today [at EA Play]. That's later this year.
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Post by Garo on Aug 1, 2020 11:41:07 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 1, 2020 13:00:56 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster? Right now no.
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Post by ClarkKent on Aug 1, 2020 13:21:13 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster? It is really strange the way they've handled this tbh.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 1, 2020 18:18:13 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster? It's most likely fake news.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 1, 2020 19:27:15 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster? Not yet, I'd start a new thread for an official announcement. But with both Jeff and Shinobi saying it's coming, it's just a question of when. And as Shinobi says, we should hear about it before November.
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Post by Garo on Aug 1, 2020 19:39:43 GMT
Sooooooooo is there any sort of confirmed information about this remaster? Not yet, I'd start a new thread for an official announcement. But with both Jeff and Shinobi saying it's coming, it's just a question of when. And as Shinobi says, we should hear about it before November.
Hopefully sooner than laaater ^^
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 2, 2020 15:11:27 GMT
You know what my biggest fear of a potential remaster is? That EA completely stops providing the games, as they exist, through any platform and forces you to buy the remaster, if you want to play them again, like Blizzard did with WC3. Not only that, but the remaster uses Origin, which tanks performance, breaks all the mods, because they are incompatible with the new versions of the games and it introduces more bugs than fixes.
I'm afraid it will do more damage than good and EA is free to do so. It's their games, we just own a license.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 2, 2020 16:38:30 GMT
Even if they announced it today I doubt we would see it until sometime next year.
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