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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 16, 2020 14:15:49 GMT
It's not very 'RPG' so not core BSN, but I played a ton of Star Wars fighter games back in the day. Since this from 1983.  But now we have the latest off-shoot, made with several members of the team from Mass Effect Andromeda, so my expectations are high. Is this a game that tempts you?
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Post by seven on Jun 17, 2020 2:36:58 GMT
So much yes 
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Post by saandrig on Jun 17, 2020 6:22:00 GMT
Since it will not be a full AAA price, I suspect they grabbed the assets from the BF2 Starfighter mode and made it into a bit bigger game. The system requirements are pretty much the same as well. It's not a bad thing, BF2's space mode is pretty good, great visuals, easy controls. What it lacked was map and mission variety. Also with 12+ players on each side, it was impossible to stay alive for long, especially if you kill anything and get auto-tagged to all enemies with a big "revenge kill" mark. All you could do after that was just fly evasively without fighting at all or just die and respawn. With 5v5 players, this will not be such a big issue and hopefully they made some adjustments in how the Objectives work.
What I hope for is that they expand on it later. I doubt it will be in the SP area (which will probably be 2-3 hours long), but a Co-Op mode will be great with all the variety missions you can do in space. If it remains a PvP exclusive, I will probably drop it in a few weeks tops.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 17, 2020 9:15:24 GMT
I will have to practice. I fly into things even without anyone chasing me... 
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Post by seven on Jun 17, 2020 9:21:22 GMT
I'll also be the first to admit I'll need some training...uhhh...wheels. 
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Post by saandrig on Jun 17, 2020 11:25:29 GMT
I'll also be the first to admit I'll need some training...uhhh...wheels.  Play the BF2's Starfighter mode. It will be a very close match to Squadrons. Alternatively, try Galactic Starfighter mode in SWTOR. Not quite the same game, but you will build up a lot of the same skills.
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Post by seven on Jun 17, 2020 12:16:57 GMT
I'll also be the first to admit I'll need some training...uhhh...wheels.  Play the BF2's Starfighter mode. It will be a very close match to Squadrons. Alternatively, try Galactic Starfighter mode in SWTOR. Not quite the same game, but you will build up a lot of the same skills. I've played BF2, but never noticed that part. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have another look next time.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 17, 2020 13:06:38 GMT
I cranked up Battlefront II again.
It didn't go well...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 18, 2020 2:47:36 GMT
I'm super excited for this game. And am looking forward to seeing gameplay tomorrow. Also here's the preorder bonus: 
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 18, 2020 13:28:16 GMT
I will have to practice. I fly into things even without anyone chasing me...  Me too I don't know how much I crashed while playimng the campaign mode of Battlefront 2 it is good fun bu tquiet chllenging tryin to avoid crashing into something in games like this.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 18, 2020 13:31:34 GMT
I cranked up Battlefront II again. It didn't go well... Kind of makes me glad for the likes of Joker Cortez and Kallo in ME tbh wouldn't wamnt thast happening to the Normandy or the Tempest. 
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Post by azarhal on Jun 18, 2020 13:40:04 GMT
I cranked up Battlefront II again. It didn't go well... Good Job! You did crash the enemy ship engines. Sorta. But I'm never hiring you to fly my ships. The assurance cost would be too high.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 18, 2020 14:54:09 GMT
I could more than hold my own as a teammate in Mass Effect 3/Andromeda multiplayer.
But here I may have to stick to playing other sucky players, if there is such a thing.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jun 18, 2020 23:47:07 GMT
That gameplay...I really hope it's not BS because holy shit it looks good.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 19, 2020 0:00:19 GMT
That gameplay...I really hope it's not BS because holy shit it looks good. Also, is it my imagination or did I hear Jennifer Hale in that gameplay video?
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Post by seven on Jun 19, 2020 2:53:30 GMT
That gameplay...I really hope it's not BS because holy shit it looks good. Also, is it my imagination or did I hear Jennifer Hale in that gameplay video? It did sound like her...to me at least. It also said you could play in VR, which is something I will be looking into at least before deciding to go that version or normal. Polygon wrote up that it was 5v5 PvP multiplayer though.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 19, 2020 3:28:50 GMT
Yeah so I played the hell out of BF2’s star fighter assault, so this is an instabuy from me! The biggest problem with BF2’s star fighter assault was that having maxed out star cards made a Huge difference, unlike most of the other game modes and that made things a lot harder for new players to actually compete and learn the ropes so to speak. Squadrons looks like it’s taking the best parts of that game mode and ramping them up, which is aces in my book!
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Post by saandrig on Jun 19, 2020 6:27:50 GMT
I recognized a lot of assets from BF2. Not as sharp and good looking though. Maybe it's an earlier build. The Fleet mode is also a straight up clone of the BF2 Starfighter game. Let's hope they got more than 3-4 maps to fight on, otherwise it will get old real quick. I think about 10 maps with different layouts and objectives is a decent start. The game's creative director claimed we will get a full game and they are not looking much into live services/future updates...yet. Which concerns me since we didn't hear anything about a co-op or other SP modes.
The cockpit view seems to block a lot of the visibility on some ships (TIE's). Hopefully it can be disabled/hidden. If it can't, I am sure there will be a mod for that. Removing the cockpit will probably be mandatory for maximum efficiency.
From what I read so far, they lifted a lot of ideas from other games, including SWTOR's Galactic Starfighter - like the Charged Plating component and the bonuses for system focus. Of course those might be older than that, but I saw them there first.
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Post by saandrig on Jun 19, 2020 6:52:18 GMT
But here I may have to stick to playing other sucky players, if there is such a thing. My "Freelancer/X-wing vs Tie Fighter/SWTOR GS/BF2 Starfighter" experience shows that generally we are looking at 50% of the playerbase being complete fodder, 30% being somewhat adequate to almost decent, 10% good pilots, 9 % real good pilots that usually decide the match/fight and 1% absolute aces that either cheat somehow or are just that awesomely good.
In the games I mentioned I find myself mostly in the 9%, sometimes in the 10% on a bad day. If there are enough new/bad players in the match, I can even look as the 1% to them  For a while I was even a scourge to some people in SWTOR  Truth be told, it can often suck being a good player, because you know what is going on around you. You bust your ass the whole game, but still lose because your other teammates can't find the shooting key with both arms, a map and a tour guide. I have seen people losing a duel to a small stationary AI turret ffs... In such games, you should just have fun, watch the scenery, try other ships or generally fool around, because there is absolutely no point going for a win. "Squadrons" will be pretty to look around at least
So don't worry. There will be a lot of crappy pilots. Even if there isn't some sort of matchmaking, the odds of you being in a match with other weaker players will be pretty high.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 19, 2020 9:35:32 GMT
Polygon wrote up that it was 5v5 PvP multiplayer though. I like the sound of multiplayer: 5 players vs. 5-AI. Prefer that to 'real' PVP.
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Post by saandrig on Jun 19, 2020 9:53:42 GMT
Polygon wrote up that it was 5v5 PvP multiplayer though. I like the sound of multiplayer: 5 players vs. 5-AI. Prefer that to 'real' PVP. I wish. Co-Op for the BF2 Starfighter is something I have been asking for a long time now. It could be great, fighting over Objectives with overwhelming AI waves, intercepting enemy bombers or suicide running into enemy capital ships to destroy their components.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 19, 2020 11:26:43 GMT
I like the idea too. I'll be picking playing against AI.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 19, 2020 13:48:10 GMT
Rewatching the trailer they definitely mention that you can play as 5 vs ai, which is great news! Whilst I will probably put most of my time testing myself against other players, I can absolutely see myself dipping into “co-op” every so often to chill out. If anybody’s on Xbox and fancies squading up when the time comes, I’ll definitely be down for that! 
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