Now, there’s organic lyrium on the surface. That doesn’t bode well.
It is why I thought that Solas regards his plan as the only way to cleanse the world of the blight. In the Hushed Whispers dark future there was red lyrium growing everywhere and one of our researchers told us that it can infect even the tiniest of organisms, so until someone finds a way to cleanse the infection the world would seem to be doomed, particularly as the Venatori think it is such a great thing to restore Tevinter to its former glory and they ensured it was carried northwards into the rest of Thedas.
Lady Insanity had an interesting observation: if you lighten the shit out of that image with the archway, you can see organic pods and tendrils covering the stones along with the red lyrium.
Is it Blight corruption, like the kind we saw in DAO?
EDIT: The architecture can’t be seen well in 3, but 2 looks like the sort of old Ferelden castle architecture (Skyhold, Therinfal Redoubt) that we saw in DAI to me.
The style looks Fereldan, but I wouldn't pay attention to the style as much as the suggestion of a massive, city-like location.
Just because they were buildings we encountered in Ferelden, does that necessarily equal they are Ferelden style. After all, Skyhold wasn't built by anybody in modern times and its original name was elven, so it seems likely it was an elven construct originally. The Temple of Sacred Ashes was built over a shrine to Mythal. There were many ruins and buildings that were attributed to Tevinter but we know they built on top of elven sites. The elven ruins in DAO would appear to have been occupied by elves and humans at one time and the eluvian there plus the statue to one of the gods would point to them being from the time of the elven empire. I wouldn't be surprised if Therinfall wasn't constructed by the Templars or anybody from the modern period but just re-purposed by them.
So basically what I'm trying to say is that just because the architecture may look like something we've seen in Ferelden doesn't mean it is a local/modern design and rule out similar architecture being found almost anywhere else in Thedas.
Yes it was. Skyhold has been rebuilt several times. Even if parts of it are of different (or original elvhen) style, most of it is is noted in in-game materials to be predominantly Fereldan.
"[...] The structures here are all Fereldan, with stone ferried up by a typical madman. Whatever was here, whatever natural spire, it was flattened for a floor. But I know the common shapes, and I will erect them as was custom. And we shall see what the elves wished to see."
Also, however the original structure looked like, the Temple Of Sacred Ashes is also looking quite Fereldean, suggesting it was built over or expanded in however many centuries it was considered a sacred place for the Chantry. It's also virtually the same style as Redcliffe Castle and relatively similar to Therinfal Redoubt. In other words - the designated style for all three structures in DAI is Fereldan. Whatever was built over may be peeking from time to time (same with DAI Tevinter style), like in case of internal structures of Temple Of Sacred Ashes in Origins, or Mythal mosaic in DAI or pointed arches in the wall leading to War Table in Skyhold.
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Lady Insanity had an interesting observation: if you lighten the shit out of that image with the archway, you can see organic pods and tendrils covering the stones along with the red lyrium.
Is it Blight corruption, like the kind we saw in DAO?
Well we do know that Red Lyrium is Blighted and - generally speaking - this shade of red is associated with the Blight and Blight Magic at least since DAII, so I'd say that 99.99999999999% all of this is Blight, in one form or another.
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Here’s a thought, maybe the mass is the idol itself.
Perhaps this is what has become of the idol, having perhaps been consumed or perhaps fused with darkspawn or people by someone looking to create a power source. And then from that sacrifice it grew this crystalline/fleshy shell spreading across the land consuming all it touches...
Hmm the entire structure around the mass is also man made, like it's been growing inside that run down castle for years...which leads me to believe the "heart" is more like a replica, or it has been intentionally cut from the stone and corrupted- maybe for some reverse engineering or experimentation.
It does indeed seem to me like they're going back to what the DAO lyrium looked like, obviously more detailed now. You can see the tendrils are curved and point upwards from a dirt like base with streaks of glowy bits through it, almost akin to corals. Just that the dirt like base makes me think of the fleshy growth that we found in the Deep Roads and the ruins in the Dragonbone Wastes where The Mother made her nest - sooooo, Blighty bits causing the red lyrium growth?
People have already pointed out that it's similar to deep mushrooms - so the protrusions are similar to already two different thing from two different games. Which are they then? If you intend to focus on details, then please don't just pay attention to one notable detail, but them all.
Neither Origins lyrium deposits or deep mushrooms grow out of a mass of root-like tangles, while we see a gnarly, root-like tangles in all three scenes*, including faintly-glowing root-vines (and they glow just like the base of glowing tendrils) choking a tree. In the scene with the gate we also see Blight-like sacks in the roots. So, whatever they are, both are likely related. IMO, the suggestion is that plants/roots themselves have been twisted and suggest something elf/ancient-elf related, given the connection of plants/roots to elves.
*(never mind for now that these are w-i-p and we have no idea whether such scenery or details will even show up in the final product)
Sorry but I don't really understand what you're trying to say. In the first part of my post I was merely commenting on what the design of the red lyrium reminded me of - it seemed a lot more similar to me to the regular blue lyrium than to deep mushrooms but fair enough on that to whomever whats to go with that interpretation. I also am willing not to be too strict with my comparison between the 2 lyrium types because DAO came out 11 years ago on a different engine and let's say the graphics haven't aged well. Also, they've had different looks in the games - in DAO in looked kind of like corals, in DAI proper it looked like crystal growth, in The Descent it looked like twisty veins and now it seems it's back to a coral-esque look.
And for the second part, I sort of said the same thing? The red lyrium seems to be growing out of those weird growths, which remind me of the fleshy growths in DAO's Deep Roads and The Mother's nest. Apart from that, whether there's a connection to organic material, the growths are also clearly attached to walls, as well, so the red lyrium is growing out of non-organic material, too. In the In Hushed Whispers quest Dorian also remarks it's growing out of the Redcliffe castle's walls.
Anyway, like you said, this is just a maybe, kinda, sorta, what if interpretation of 3 screenshots, basically. I don't think we need to start pitting theories against each other.
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What a pathetic showing. Clearly they are nowhere with this game. They are still working out how to live service it up.... probably looking into switching it to a first person shooter.
So it's going to be like a decade between Dragon age games now?
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
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Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
ugh speak not.
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What a pathetic showing. Clearly they are nowhere with this game. They are still working out how to live service it up.... probably looking into switching it to a first person shooter.
So it's going to be like a decade between Dragon age games now?
Have I mentioned that I hate Bioware now?
Well, it does make you a bit biased. We do know that the games is years away from being released. The fact that they didn’t show anything substantial at EA Play isn’t relevant on what stage of development they’re at, or if things are going well, or bad, in regards of development. The live service stuff, even according to Jason Scheier’s articles, isn’t completely clear, and even if we don’t have to believe what they said after the VGA teaser trailer, we did see EA publish a single player-only game that was very, very successful. I do think that the situation on that regards might be that bad, or worse then what we had in DAI.
Of course, the opposite is also possibly, and even if the game will have the same live service elements of DAI, it can turn out to be a much worse game. I just don’t think that not showing a substantial trailer yesterday, when we know from EA’s financial reports that the game won’t come out until 2022 at beast, isn’t a reason to say the project is doomed.
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
ugh speak not.
I don’t think they’re going to make a remake of DAO...and even if it’d be a reboot, they wouldn’t throw Solas in. Even the red lyrium bits would lead to huge differences from the original story.
The point made by others about the elucian network being used in the game is interesting. It’s also possible that they might use time travel in the past. Or another explanation, more likely, to me, then a DAO remake.
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
I don’t think they’re going to make a remake of DAO...and even if it’d be a reboot, they wouldn’t throw Solas in. Even the red lyrium bits would lead to huge differences from the original story.
The point made by others about the elucian network being used in the game is interesting. It’s also possible that they might use time travel in the past. Or another explanation, more likely, to me, then a DAO remake.
on thinking about it I agree with you just the 'this is Haven' crowd has got me a bit spooked that the screenshots somehow aren't for DA4. However its even unlikely that is Haven given the amount of RL involved...
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People have already pointed out that it's similar to deep mushrooms - so the protrusions are similar to already two different thing from two different games. Which are they then? If you intend to focus on details, then please don't just pay attention to one notable detail, but them all.
Neither Origins lyrium deposits or deep mushrooms grow out of a mass of root-like tangles, while we see a gnarly, root-like tangles in all three scenes*, including faintly-glowing root-vines (and they glow just like the base of glowing tendrils) choking a tree. In the scene with the gate we also see Blight-like sacks in the roots. So, whatever they are, both are likely related. IMO, the suggestion is that plants/roots themselves have been twisted and suggest something elf/ancient-elf related, given the connection of plants/roots to elves.
*(never mind for now that these are w-i-p and we have no idea whether such scenery or details will even show up in the final product)
Sorry but I don't really understand what you're trying to say. In the first part of my post I was merely commenting on what the design of the red lyrium reminded me of - it seemed a lot more similar to me to the regular blue lyrium than to deep mushrooms but fair enough on that to whomever whats to go with that interpretation. I also am willing not to be too strict with my comparison between the 2 lyrium types because DAO came out 11 years ago on a different engine and let's say the graphics haven't aged well.
You've said that you think that "they're going back to what the DAO lyrium looked like, obviously more detailed now", while I'm simply saying that this doesn't appear to be it - that these may not even be red-lyrium crystals per se.
In other words, I maintain that this isn't lyrium redesign, but potentially a new kind of permutation of Blight or Red Lyrium - IMO, it's organic/plant matter infested with either.
Also, they've had different looks in the games - in DAO in looked kind of like corals, in DAI proper it looked like crystal growth, in The Descent it looked like twisty veins and now it seems it's back to a coral-esque look.
Keep in mind that, aside from DAO, lyrium and especially Red Lyrium deposits on the surface look different from how lyrium veins look underground. In Trespasser lyrium mine the lyrium was also vein-like. Red lyrium in Primeval Thaig in DAII also looked vein-like. All the screenshots, on the other hand, are of surface structures.
And for the second part, I sort of said the same thing? The red lyrium seems to be growing out of those weird growths, which remind me of the fleshy growths in DAO's Deep Roads and The Mother's nest. Apart from that, whether there's a connection to organic material, the growths are also clearly attached to walls, as well, so the red lyrium is growing out of non-organic material, too. In the In Hushed Whispers quest Dorian also remarks it's growing out of the Redcliffe castle's walls.
Unless, of course, the infested matter also penetrated the walls. In fact, you can see those gnarly roots sometimes sticking from walls on these screenshots. We don't know, of course, what new things we will discover in the next title, but according to Bianca the Blight only attacks living things. So it may be that the Blighted roots or whatever this mass is has likely penetrated the walls (normal roots can do this) or has found enough purchase in organic matter (moss, little creatures) to start growing from walls.
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What a pathetic showing. Clearly they are nowhere with this game. They are still working out how to live service it up.... probably looking into switching it to a first person shooter.
So it's going to be like a decade between Dragon age games now?
Have I mentioned that I hate Bioware now?
...Are we supposed to give you some sort of medal for being Yet Another Negative Nancy or something?
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EDIT: The architecture can’t be seen well in 3, but 2 looks like the sort of old Ferelden castle architecture (Skyhold, Therinfal Redoubt) that we saw in DAI to me.
The style looks Fereldan, but I wouldn't pay attention to the style as much as the suggestion of a massive, city-like location.
Just because they were buildings we encountered in Ferelden, does that necessarily equal they are Ferelden style. After all, Skyhold wasn't built by anybody in modern times and its original name was elven, so it seems likely it was an elven construct originally.
According to mason notes in Skyhold, the fortress itself is of early Ferelden construction. Early Fereldens (so Alamarri probably) apparently leveled the original elven site to provide the foundations.
That’s what the wiki reports at any rate. The text of the notes themselves don’t seem to be on there.
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Of course the other interesting thing about the screen shots is the three of them deliberately seem to be chosen in order to indicate the slow spread of Lyrium. The infection getting worse could be a big part of DA4.
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Just because they were buildings we encountered in Ferelden, does that necessarily equal they are Ferelden style. After all, Skyhold wasn't built by anybody in modern times and its original name was elven, so it seems likely it was an elven construct originally.
According to mason notes in Skyhold, the fortress itself is of early Ferelden construction. Early Fereldens (so Alamarri probably) apparently leveled the original elven site to provide the foundations.
That’s what the wiki reports at any rate. The text of the notes themselves don’t seem to be on there.
Wait, wait, wait, wait... Fereldan structures and we're probably somewhere in Ferelden given the snow and urns. Are we in Ferlden during the Fifth Blight? Is this actually... DA: Origins re-imagined in Frostbite?
I don’t think they’re going to make a remake of DAO...and even if it’d be a reboot, they wouldn’t throw Solas in. Even the red lyrium bits would lead to huge differences from the original story.
The point made by others about the elucian network being used in the game is interesting. It’s also possible that they might use time travel in the past. Or another explanation, more likely, to me, then a DAO remake.
I totally think that DAO/DAII remakes are on the cards, even if not anytime soon.
However, keep in mind that these MAY be DAO locations or period of time, but still in DA4. We don't necessarily have to travel back in time (even though we know time travel is, at least occasionally, possible), but venture through the Fade and see many different scenes or scenarios that someone may be showing us for some reason.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2020 21:46:51 GMT by midnight tea
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It just occurred to me there might be a reason why a bunch of BioWarians retweeted this ancient animation demo...
DragonMelissaBow and arrowJanowiczDragon face deedlite Who's a good girl? It's you, little spider! It's you!! Sparkling heart
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Hey this really is from Dragon Age! Its a cute little spider!
Just watch... that pulsating thing will actually turn out to be a giant egg sac, naturally splitting open as you walk under it, giving you a refreshing spider shower.
Just watch... that pulsating thing will actually turn out to be a giant egg sac, naturally splitting open as you walk under it, giving you a refreshing spider shower.
While that would certainly disgusting, it is something I could deal with. Don't we all got experience with blighted eight-legsies after so and so many ventures into the Ortan Thaig?
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Just watch... that pulsating thing will actually turn out to be a giant egg sac, naturally splitting open as you walk under it, giving you a refreshing spider shower.
Just watch... that pulsating thing will actually turn out to be a giant egg sac, naturally splitting open as you walk under it, giving you a refreshing spider shower.
Why you gotta do that to me??
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I don’t think they’re going to make a remake of DAO...and even if it’d be a reboot, they wouldn’t throw Solas in. Even the red lyrium bits would lead to huge differences from the original story.
The point made by others about the elucian network being used in the game is interesting. It’s also possible that they might use time travel in the past. Or another explanation, more likely, to me, then a DAO remake.
I totally think that DAO/DAII remakes are in the cards, even if not anytime soon.
However, keep in mind that these MAY be DAO locations or period of time, but still in DA4. We don't necessarily have to travel back in time (even though we know time travel is, at least occasionally, possible), but venture through the Fade and see many different scenes or scenarios that someone may be showing us for some reason.
it'd actually be funny if we get a ME remaster this year and a DA one next year to help hold us over.
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It just occurred to me there might be a reason why a bunch of BioWarians retweeted this ancient animation demo...
DragonMelissaBow and arrowJanowiczDragon face deedlite Who's a good girl? It's you, little spider! It's you!! Sparkling heart
Mark Darrah @biomarkdarrah Hey this really is from Dragon Age! Its a cute little spider!
Just watch... that pulsating thing will actually turn out to be a giant egg sac, naturally splitting open as you walk under it, giving you a refreshing spider shower.
Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 19, 2020 19:23:58 GMT
Now I have flashbacks of the Frostback Basin in Jaws Of Hakkon DLC... THOSE SPIDERS. The LOT of them.
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The red lyrium seems to be growing out of those weird growths, which remind me of the fleshy growths in DAO's Deep Roads and The Mother's nest. Apart from that, whether there's a connection to organic material, the growths are also clearly attached to walls, as well, so the red lyrium is growing out of non-organic material, too. In the In Hushed Whispers quest Dorian also remarks it's growing out of the Redcliffe castle's walls.
The red lyrium seems to be growing out of those weird growths, which remind me of the fleshy growths in DAO's Deep Roads and The Mother's nest. Apart from that, whether there's a connection to organic material, the growths are also clearly attached to walls, as well, so the red lyrium is growing out of non-organic material, too. In the In Hushed Whispers quest Dorian also remarks it's growing out of the Redcliffe castle's walls.
While that would certainly disgusting, it is something I could deal with. Don't we all got experience with blighted eight-legsies after so and so many ventures into the Ortan Thaig? 
