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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 28, 2020 21:47:55 GMT
Whatever this nonsense is can end, now, thank you.
It is a simple question with answers personal to the individual.
It is not a dissection or dissertation on why representation in games is good/bad or good business/pandering. Nor is it an opportunity to issue veiled attacks or low level insults to people who'd use something as a positive that you consider to be a negative (and the reverse is also true).
You want to introduce someone to Dragon Age. How would you do it? What would you say?
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Post by mousestalker on Jun 28, 2020 22:00:08 GMT
Find out how they like to play and gently steer them towards those options.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jun 28, 2020 22:39:20 GMT
Or fail all-together because they're stubborn even though you know they'd like it *cough* my brother *cough*
not sure how he'd handle to romance option stuff, but seeing as that's an optional aspect...regardless, I'm sure he'd love the story he likes fantasy (playing Final Fantasy XIV and things like that), but as I'm his "younger sister" he often feels disinclined to listen to me then again, some of his friends have tried to make him try DA as well, with no success either
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 28, 2020 22:49:50 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 29, 2020 1:40:13 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise. Never thought about that before but you are right, that could be an effective spoiler free introduction to the series.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 29, 2020 3:29:48 GMT
Probably just be upfront with them about the general setting, plot, and gameplay involved in each particular title. The last thing I'd want to do is alienate someone from a franchise who's gameplay (and even story - to some degree) has gone through some pretty drastic changes. Someone who may not like the gameplay in Origins might end up like Inquisition; and vice-versa.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jun 29, 2020 3:30:05 GMT
not sure how he'd handle to romance option stuff, but seeing as that's an optional aspect...regardless, What if he's ninjamanced by Leliana?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jun 29, 2020 8:15:19 GMT
not sure how he'd handle to romance option stuff, but seeing as that's an optional aspect...regardless, What if he's ninjamanced by Leliana? I'd love to see the look on his face if he got ninjamanced
but looking at his game list on Steam (yeah he friended me even though we hardly play together or chat ) I think he'd be more inclined to do Mass Effect...he loves shooters mostly Call of Duty...there's also some Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy, The Witcher, GTA...plus a lot of other random titles (yeah, blatantly looking at his Steam profile here )
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Post by Ieldra on Jun 29, 2020 13:45:34 GMT
I don't think I could convince anyone of DA's merit in areas where I'm not convinced of it either. So, I'd mention the world. The different countries and cultures, their good and bad sides, the differences that go into conflicts, and their various philosophical and religious aspects and historical (in-world) roots. Then I'd mention how the games fit into that picture, and how you can engage with the world through quests and things you find. Oh, and the Codex of course. I might show them the World of Thedas books as well.
This is also the only constant that I highly appreciate throughout all games and their expansions. Combat gameplay? Ugh, DA2. Characters? Some good some bad but DAO has never been surpassed. Quests? The same. Visual appeal? DAI looks great, the others not so much (any more). There is some reinterpretation of history I really dislike, but all in all the world has stayed in the "highly appreciated" category.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 13:53:39 GMT
I felt like that shot actively insulted me I never noticed Miranda's ass, until people started talking about it online. Call me Captain Oblivious, if you will. You won't be the first one. C'mon, now there's no possible way that this is true, unless your vision is severely impaired and all you saw was a white (or shiny black) blur. Part of the reason it became a bit of a running gag was because of how oddly placed these shots were, where having an ass shot might set a tone that doesn't fit the conversation. Shep could be asking for a file regarding Cerberus operations, but the camera frames it around a honeycomb-festooned pair o' cheeks. It's kind of amusing.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 13:56:24 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise. It's what instantly sold me when I first started DA:O. The multiple playable origins was a highly appreciated bonus I did not expect, and sadly something we'll probably never see again in a BioWare game. The fact that CDPR is apparently putting that in CP2077 will be something to look forward to.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 29, 2020 14:00:30 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise. It's what instantly sold me when I first started DA:O. The multiple playable origins was a highly appreciated bonus I did not expect, and sadly something we'll probably never see again in a BioWare game. The fact that CDPR is apparently putting that in CP2077 will be something to look forward to. Big turn off for me about 2077 is that I won't be able to see the character I created for most of the game.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 29, 2020 14:02:41 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise. For me, the number one thing about the franchise is replay value. The first playthrough a player can do this, that and the other thing. If the person likes the game and the playthrough, they can try doing the other thing, that, and this for their next playthrough.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jun 29, 2020 14:07:02 GMT
Some good some bad but DAO has never been surpassed. Is this regarding character likeability, or...?
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 14:07:27 GMT
The character creation screen. Being able to choose your origin, class, gender, appearance, race. One of the best things about the franchise. For me, the number one thing about the franchise is replay value. The first playthrough a player can do this, that and the other thing. If the person likes the game and the playthrough, they can try doing the other thing, that, and this for their next playthrough. Takes me back to my hilarious murder elf in Origins. Bald as a newborn, because he ain't got time for hair, and knifes anything and anyone in his path. It's pretty funny how Morrigan approves of just about every terrible thing you do.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 14:09:49 GMT
It's what instantly sold me when I first started DA:O. The multiple playable origins was a highly appreciated bonus I did not expect, and sadly something we'll probably never see again in a BioWare game. The fact that CDPR is apparently putting that in CP2077 will be something to look forward to. Big turn off for me about 2077 is that I won't be able to see the character I created for most of the game. Yeah, this is going to take some getting used to. The fact that customization in the game also affects the actual eyesight of your character, I can see why they did it, but I honestly wouldn't have felt any less immersed if they just overlayed those interface/character changes from a third person perspective.
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Post by Sonya on Jun 29, 2020 14:27:19 GMT
C'mon, now there's no possible way that this is true, unless your vision is severely impaired and all you saw was a white (or shiny black) blur. Part of the reason it became a bit of a running gag was because of how oddly placed these shots were, where having an ass shot might set a tone that doesn't fit the conversation. Shep could be asking for a file regarding Cerberus operations, but the camera frames it around a honeycomb-festooned pair o' cheeks. It's kind of amusing. Sorry break it to you, it is possible. A camara shot of an ass, but a simple ass, as part of a body, no different from other asses in the universe. And it took attention only because of constant reminders of exactly this ass from all over the places. People's minds can be different, no need to explain such obvious thing. ---- The question: the only way to make others play DA games which would have worked with me as well: just I tell about those games with several small descriptions about awesome dialogues and choices/races/CC/combat systeme/tactics/graphics/number of my own PTs of each part/etc. What exactly to tell depends on a person I am talking to and if I know that person more or less, I know how can at least try to lure him/her.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 14:33:35 GMT
Some good some bad but DAO has never been surpassed. Is this regarding character likeability, or...? Likeability aside, the characters in DA:O do have quite a bit to say overall throughout the game that was pretty interesting, though perhaps some might not be as engaging throughout as others. Lookin' at you, Oghren, who got even worse in Awakening somehow.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 29, 2020 14:36:26 GMT
C'mon, now there's no possible way that this is true, unless your vision is severely impaired and all you saw was a white (or shiny black) blur. Part of the reason it became a bit of a running gag was because of how oddly placed these shots were, where having an ass shot might set a tone that doesn't fit the conversation. Shep could be asking for a file regarding Cerberus operations, but the camera frames it around a honeycomb-festooned pair o' cheeks. It's kind of amusing. Sorry break it to you, it is possible. A camara shot of an ass, but a simple ass, as part of a body, no different from other asses in the universe. And it took attention only because of constant reminders of exactly this ass from all over the places. People's minds can be different, no need to explain such obvious thing.
People's minds are different alright. They could have at least shown a closeup of Grunt's tail so that it felt more balanced and consistent.
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Post by Sonya on Jun 29, 2020 14:45:51 GMT
People's minds are different alright. They could have at least shown a closeup of Grunt's tail so that it felt more balanced and consistent. If you are "alright" with the first part, the second part is not necessary: in that case it would be sort of "oxymoron". If take only your seconde sentence, no argue: show from time to time different asses with different reasons.
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Post by Ieldra on Jun 29, 2020 18:00:00 GMT
Some good some bad but DAO has never been surpassed. Is this regarding character likeability, or...? DAO's set of companions was the last that felt real to me from start to end. Companions after DAO felt more like realizations of templates, often narrow ones, carefully crafted to appeal to specific types of players. DA2's were worst. In DAI I'll except Cassandra and Solas.
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 29, 2020 18:17:33 GMT
DAO's set of companions was the last that felt real to me from start to end. Companions after DAO felt more like realizations of templates, often narrow ones, carefully crafted to appeal to specific types of players. DA2's were worst. In DAI I'll except Cassandra and Solas. Maybe it's got something to do with its rushed development, but DA2's companions strike me as flanderized from the get go. They all have one or two traits that entirely define them and that they won't shut up about. Like, Isabela's fun, but there's not much more to her than you can glimpse from the "sexy pirate" concept. Just one example: Leliana, Zevran, and Sten made me interested in Orlais, Antiva, and the Qunari, respectively, but after going through Isabela's arc I didn't even feel like I knew more about Rivain. The other characters have the same issue.
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Post by Gileadan on Jun 29, 2020 18:35:28 GMT
DAO's set of companions was the last that felt real to me from start to end. Companions after DAO felt more like realizations of templates, often narrow ones, carefully crafted to appeal to specific types of players. DA2's were worst. In DAI I'll except Cassandra and Solas. Maybe it's got something to do with its rushed development, but DA2's companions strike me as flanderized from the get go. They all have one or two traits that entirely define them and that they won't shut up about. Like, Isabela's fun, but there's not much more to her than you can glimpse from the "sexy pirate" concept. Just one example: Leliana, Zevran, and Sten made me interested in Orlais, Antiva, and the Qunari, respectively, but after going through Isabela's arc I didn't even feel like I knew more about Rivain. The other characters have the same issue. Flanderized? *gasp* That's iconic companions, good sir!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jun 29, 2020 21:13:59 GMT
I don't think I could convince anyone of DA's merit in areas where I'm not convinced of it either. So, I'd mention the world. The different countries and cultures, their good and bad sides, the differences that go into conflicts, and their various philosophical and religious aspects and historical (in-world) roots. Then I'd mention how the games fit into that picture, and how you can engage with the world through quests and things you find. Oh, and the Codex of course. I might show them the World of Thedas books as well. This is also the only constant that I highly appreciate throughout all games and their expansions. Combat gameplay? Ugh, DA2. Characters? Some good some bad but DAO has never been surpassed. Quests? The same. Visual appeal? DAI looks great, the others not so much (any more). There is some reinterpretation of history I really dislike, but all in all the world has stayed in the "highly appreciated" category. I also feel that "The World" is the star of the show when it comes to Dragon Age. Which is one reason I hope that they continue the pattern of a new game meaning new protagonist. We've seen the world from the perspective of someone who has been "forced to leave it all behind - whatever that was - and do a job", someone who picked themselves up from nothing and managed/or found themselves inserted into significant events and someone was the spiritual head of an organisation literally tasked with saving and putting the world back together. The perspective of someone else (on a world I'm already intimately familiar with) is something to look forward to.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 29, 2020 21:53:20 GMT
C'mon, now there's no possible way that this is true, unless your vision is severely impaired and all you saw was a white (or shiny black) blur. Part of the reason it became a bit of a running gag was because of how oddly placed these shots were, where having an ass shot might set a tone that doesn't fit the conversation. Shep could be asking for a file regarding Cerberus operations, but the camera frames it around a honeycomb-festooned pair o' cheeks. It's kind of amusing.
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