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Post by Rn09 on Jul 25, 2020 16:50:04 GMT
Reboot and why?
I think BioWare should reboot Andromeda because, going back to The Milky Way is an extremely risky and also bad idea.
A satisfying sequel of the trilogy would be impossible to do, there are too many variables to account for, too many choices made by the player that BioWare simply cannot integrate into it. Simply from the endings of ME:3 alone, not to mention the other choices we made playing the game, impossible.
Prequel would be okay and easy to do but still not very satisfying. Sure we could get to see the first contact war, or the Rachni wars, or the krogan rebellions, or hell even go back a few cycles and introduce us to the races that lived before, but it won't feel as satisfying, because we already know where we are heading.
Andromeda sequel, well that too is extremely bad because of one reason. Andromeda is just a copy of the original in more ways than one but I'll stick to one cuz I could go on for days. If a sequel happens the Kett can't be ignored and from what we learned in Andromeda the Kett are just a simplified version of the Reapers, they take our genetic material and turn us into them etc. etc. and they've already been established as the dominant species of Andromeda, now I really wouldn't enjoy going to other clusters and battling it out with other Archons until we get to the Big Bad Archon or whatever.
A reboot on the other hand would be the best possible way to deliver on the promise Andromeda made, mostly because a lot of the foundation has been laid and it has incredible potential. With a few small changes here and there to the kett, the remnant, the angara, and the impact of the initiative in Andromeda. It would bring back Mass Effect back into people's hearts and minds.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 25, 2020 18:02:20 GMT
I’d prefer following what was already established in Andromeda rather than starting over again. I don’t really see a reboot solving any problems that a direct sequel can’t.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 25, 2020 18:38:44 GMT
You should add Milky Way Spin-off of something to the list because that's what I want personally...
Either a DIRECT sequel dealing with the horrible consequences of the reaper war (does not have to be a Shepard game). Yes I'm FINE with canonizing one of the endings.
OR a nice alien centric standalone game about anything really. Set sometime before the arrival of the reapers. Years, decades or centuries, doesn't matter. I want to play a non human protagonist.
Not interested in more Andromeda at all, even with a different protagonist. Don't care about that lame galaxy filled with teletubbies...
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Post by themikefest on Jul 25, 2020 18:39:19 GMT
Trilogy sequel. Remove everything from when Shepard passed out. Just have the Hackett ending. ME4 starts shortly after the events of ME3. Wouldn't be hard to do. The guy did say the details have been lost over time. If MEA were to be rebooted, I would reboot the trilogy as well. In a trilogy reboot, or call it a remake, can have in ME1 a scene with Shepard talking with father Ryder and meeting the little Ryders. When on the moon for that mission, can see the Hyperion under construction. Maybe have a scene with Shepard meeting with Garson who explains why she wants to go sightseeing in Andromeda. ME2 can have Legion telling Shepard about the geth telescope. Maybe have a mission to locate this telescope to use to see where the reapers are, or at least where they chill out for 50,000 years. ME3 puts the Andromeda Initiative on hold. MEA, if Shepard is not in the game, can take place several years after the reapers were destroyed with Garson and her band of adventurers heading to Andromeda. If not, ME4 can have the Initiative continuing building their stuff while Shepard does whatever. MEA starts after the events of ME4.
If there's to be a sequel to MEA, I don't want to see Ryder again. I'm not a fan of having the game taking place however many years in the future, but if that's what it takes to not have Ryder in the game, I would be ok with that.
If a prequel were to happen, I would want to play as a reaper who is best buds with Harbinger. After each cycle, the two of us hangout at club darkspace talking smack about which one of us vaporized the most organics.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 25, 2020 18:41:00 GMT
Andromeda sequel definitely as based on the info I've seen around her eno one can really agree on how t oproceed tha tand I get the feeling that the writers definitely had moer in mind I think for futuer MEA games s oit makes sense to continue with that. Plus I actual liked what Bioware was attempting with MEA
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Post by redeem on Jul 25, 2020 19:26:23 GMT
Trilogy sequel for myself. Retcon some stuff if you have to. Andromeda did not have the appeal that the original trilogy setting had.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 25, 2020 20:39:19 GMT
I'm leaning towards prequel. Bring back the wonderful status quo before starchild sent the galaxy to the shadow realm. You could also bring in characters from both the original trilogy, and Andromeda, so everyone's happy.
Needless to say you couldn't have any galaxy defining stuff happening but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 25, 2020 21:40:24 GMT
There are two that I would interest me and two I don't think would work.
I think both a sequel to Andromeda works and so does a sequel to the original trilogy as long as people don't start whining about "my choices don't matter" and BioWare just makes a set of pre-defined variables to move forward and I just don't see that happening since that is why they went to Andromeda in the first place.
To me a prequel doesn't work for Mass Effect for there is too much known about the time before Mass Effect 1 and there is nothing new to learn from it. Its the problem with prequels is that there isn't any tension because we know the Turians don't wipe humanity out during the First Contact War we know Anderson survives and so much of what happened with Humanity at that time is already documented. To me it would be a documentary type video game and that doesn't interest me.
I don't think they need to reboot Andromeda at all. The majority of Andromeda can be pretty much ignored and a new game can take place without any real connection to the first game aside from a few things like Meridian, AI, and the species we discovered which probably would be part of any reboot anyway.
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 25, 2020 22:04:34 GMT
I always thought the biggest problem with the original trilogy was that it was about one person, Shepard, and each game had different art/play styles that conflicted. Plus, they never really followed through on making the player's choices matter, so why set up consumers with unrealistic expectations where one protagonist's choices have to follow through to each game.
I think they should remake the original trilogy, but make each game a subsequent generation of society. Then the devs could get away from being too locked in to the previous choices and art style, and could instead focus each game on a complete new character with different origins, maybe even make one game about an alien.
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Post by natetrace on Jul 25, 2020 22:05:47 GMT
For now I would like to continue in Andromeda. It can be direct or a loose sequel, I would just like to see more.
Then later on perhaps a contact game. I always thought of this being like Dragon Age 2 with different periods of time, but 30 years instead of ten. First act is turians, second batarians. Third reapers. It could end like the Road Warrior with a narrator and our hero standing there all cool and stuff.
Mass Effect 4 I'd have take place 60 or more years after 3. Endings can be easily explained away, I think. Perhaps in an email hah!
In other words if I could I'd make them all. If I win the lottery that's what I'll fund.
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Post by Zemgus on Jul 25, 2020 22:26:48 GMT
1. Andromeda sequel with a new protagonist and set 100 years after the events of MEA1.
2. First Contact War game like Bioware originally planned.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 26, 2020 14:14:46 GMT
Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 the best and only path forward.
I think that MEA1 is a great set up for a larger story and universe. There are already plenty of interesting places to go with Pathfinder Ryder and company. Is the story of MEA rough around the edges? Yes, but so was the story of ME1 and IMHO is a LOT rougher than MEA. In both games the characters are broad but likeable and the universe is interesting and there are plenty of sub plots that are set up for a sequel, the stories are fun and enjoyable to replay. The gameplay in MEA is a trillion times better than ME1 gameplay (which became very out dated and no fun when ME2 came out). I want to see what happens to crew of the Tempest, see Advent the other colony on Eos, the creators of the angra and the Remnant, find out who the Benefactor is, who murdered Jien Garson, who created the Scourge and why, find the quarian ark, and so on. There are NEW and EXCITING stories to be told in Andromeda whereas in MWG they are weighed down by 3 games and a LOT of story based DLC and trying to tell a new story with all that baggage would be impossible. I'm not interested in god damn prequels, because 97% of them just plain suck and quickly become nothing more than bad pandering fanservice and/or continuity porn that tells you stuff that you didn't already know. I have absolutely NO INTEREST in a game set in MWG after the events of ME3. I have no desire to see what happens to Shepard and company or what happens to the galaxy afterwards. Mass Effect 3 was the end to the story of Commander Shepard and company and the Milky Way Galaxy. I've made my peace with the ME3 endings and have no interest in another game that would end up destroying the Mass Effect Universe just like Star Trek: Enterprise damn near destroyed the Star Trek Universe and then they had to reboot the whole thing and then bring back the original timeline. For me Mass Effect 3 was the end of Shepard's story. The conclusion. The Finale. That story is OVER. DONE. FINISHED. COMPLETED. I don't give a shit about other people's opinions of the endings to ME3 anymore. Honestly I'm sick and tied of reading and hearing about the feelings and the stupid opinions of butthurt fanboys. I don't care about the feelings of butthurt fanboys who didn't get their ass kissed by BioWare and EA. They all can either grow the fuck up or go fuck off as far as I'm concerned. As far as a MET remaster if BioWare/EA just pretty up the graphics and fix some bugs for the XSX and PS5 and nothing else that wouldn't be enough to compel me to buy either console and the remaster. IMHO there are MAJOR improvements to the gameplay, dialogue, the inventory system, dialogue wheel, and etc are needed in any remaster of the MET. And I honestly doubt we will see it this year between the pandemic and a new console generation launching and IMHO I think it would be a HUGE mistake to release a remaster of 3 games on 3-5 different platforms (XB1, PS4, XSX, PS5, and PC) at the same time, remember how DAI turned out? Not to mention that games on XSX and PS5 are rumored to have a price of $70 and I wouldn't be surprised if EA were to release a remaster of MET it would cost $210 and they wouldn't release each game and it's DLC separately and then claim because "It's a trilogy and it's expensive to remaster 3 huge games plus all of the DLC so we have price it that high" and if they can do it they will do it. So MEA2 is the future and everything else is just pandering to the worst elements of the ME fan community, who BTW BioWare and EA should NEVER be listen too and at best just a waste of money, time, and resources that could be better spent making games DA4 and other games they're making great.
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Post by Rn09 on Jul 26, 2020 22:22:56 GMT
If MEA were to be rebooted, I would reboot the trilogy as well. But the trilogy is already so incredibly good, why would you want to reboot it? Sure the endings weren't all that good at release but that was fixed by the extended cut. People really made a big deal out of it at the time. The journey of ME:3 was so good that the endings weren't all that important and I would argue that even without the extended cut the game was still beyond amazing. After fighting so hard and just wanting to rest, Shepard is called to do one last job, give his life to end the war. Doesn't matter how it ended because only one ending matters and that is the sacrifice of Shepard, and our sacrifice after spending 3 games with these characters(most of them) and growing to love them we have to say goodbye, and that is just so damn beautiful.
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Post by Rn09 on Jul 26, 2020 22:53:54 GMT
Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 the best and only path forward.
I think that MEA1 is a great set up for a larger story and universe. There are already plenty of interesting places to go with Pathfinder Ryder and company. Is the story of MEA rough around the edges? Yes, but so was the story of ME1 and IMHO is a LOT rougher than MEA. In both games the characters are broad but likeable and the universe is interesting and there are plenty of sub plots that are set up for a sequel, the stories are fun and enjoyable to replay. The gameplay in MEA is a trillion times better than ME1 gameplay (which became very out dated and no fun when ME2 came out). I want to see what happens to crew of the Tempest, see Advent the other colony on Eos, the creators of the angra and the Remnant, find out who the Benefactor is, who murdered Jien Garson, who created the Scourge and why, find the quarian ark, and so on. There are NEW and EXCITING stories to be told in Andromeda whereas in MWG they are weighed down by 3 games and a LOT of story based DLC and trying to tell a new story with all that baggage would be impossible.
ME1 is 13 years old tho, and no one would argue that Andromeda has a weak gameplay It's the best gameplay in a bioware game period and that's including Anthem. In fact every person who is not a butt-hurt would say the same thing(Maybe not all would include anthem tho, I'm just a big fan of ME). But let's be honest ME1's story blows Andromeda out of the water. One thing Andromeda could've done in order to even compete in the same league is have the Kett kill Ryder's father and not kill him with an accident, establish that Andromeda is dangerous by establishing that the Kett are dangerous. I mean sure we find out later on what they're doing and we know it's bad and they're bad but up until that point we have no reason to hate them. As Ryder said we're the aliens here, for all we knew that could've been their old home world or whatever and we just trespassed on it. Where as ME1 it starts off full throttle, first thing you see is Soverign and then these killer robots kill one of your squad mates and impaling humans on spikes turning them into monsters that then you have to kill and there's also betrayal, Saren and Nihlus were friends but Saren betrays him and kills him. And as for mysteries MEA has a lot that is true but most of them are not answered whereas ME1 answers all that is relevant and leaves with us with only one question. When will the reapers come? ME:A left me with a thousand questions which is why I'm in favor of a reboot, why waste a perfectly good sequel answering question the first game left us with, when you could just add some stuff that was missing in the first change a thing here or there and voila. It would be a lot easier to do and much much faster. Don't get me wrong tho, I love ME:A I enjoyed the gameplay the most out of all ME games and it had more potential than any game of the trilogy ever had, but you slandered ME1 and I can't let that go. xD
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 26, 2020 22:57:55 GMT
Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 the best and only path forward.
I think that MEA1 is a great set up for a larger story and universe. There are already plenty of interesting places to go with Pathfinder Ryder and company. Is the story of MEA rough around the edges? Yes, but so was the story of ME1 and IMHO is a LOT rougher than MEA. In both games the characters are broad but likeable and the universe is interesting and there are plenty of sub plots that are set up for a sequel, the stories are fun and enjoyable to replay. The gameplay in MEA is a trillion times better than ME1 gameplay (which became very out dated and no fun when ME2 came out). I want to see what happens to crew of the Tempest, see Advent the other colony on Eos, the creators of the angra and the Remnant, find out who the Benefactor is, who murdered Jien Garson, who created the Scourge and why, find the quarian ark, and so on. There are NEW and EXCITING stories to be told in Andromeda whereas in MWG they are weighed down by 3 games and a LOT of story based DLC and trying to tell a new story with all that baggage would be impossible.
ME1 is 13 years old tho, and no one would argue that Andromeda has a weak gameplay It's the best gameplay in a bioware game period and that's including Anthem. In fact every person who is not a butt-hurt would say the same thing(Maybe not all would include anthem tho, I'm just a big fan of ME). But let's be honest ME1's story blows Andromeda out of the water. One thing Andromeda could've done in order to even compete in the same league is have the Kett kill Ryder's father and not kill him with an accident, establish that Andromeda is dangerous by establishing that the Kett are dangerous. I mean sure we find out later on what they're doing and we know it's bad and they're bad but up until that point we have no reason to hate them. As Ryder said we're the aliens here, for all we knew that could've been their old home world or whatever and we just trespassed on it. Where as ME1 it starts off full throttle, first thing you see is Soverign and then these killer robots kill one of your squad mates and impaling humans on spikes turning them into monsters that then you have to kill and there's also betrayal, Saren and Nihlus were friends but Saren betrays him and kills him. And as for mysteries MEA has a lot that is true but most of them are not answered whereas ME1 answers all that is relevant and leaves with us with only one question. When will the reapers come? ME:A left me with a thousand questions which is why I'm in favor of a reboot, why waste a perfectly good sequel answering question the first game left us with, when you could just add some stuff that was missing in the first change a thing here or there and voila. It would be a lot easier to do and much much faster. Don't get me wrong tho, I love ME:A I enjoyed the gameplay the most out of all ME games and it had more potential than any game of the trilogy ever had, but you slandered ME1 and I can't let that go. xD Also, make Ryder more professional than the man/woman child he/she acts like.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 26, 2020 23:44:19 GMT
But the trilogy is already so incredibly good, why would you want to reboot it? I already answered that in my post. I have no problem with the red. I like seeing the reapers fall over destroyed. I don't care about the blue and green. It's the part with thing leading up to the choice that I'm not a fan of. For me, the only thing the cut fixed was the flashbacks as Shepard shoots the tube. My Shepard's job was to gather resources to stop the reapers on Earth. She/he succeeded doing that while surviving. excellent. That's right, red. excellent.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Jul 29, 2020 2:16:25 GMT
I voted for an Andromeda sequel. There are a lot of dangling threads, and still a lot of potential that could be mined in the new setting. I would hope for some new species, new locations, probably a new main character, and hopefully less of a focus on the "council" races. Although it would be nice if the Keelah Si'yah made it to Andromeda. Personally, I don't think Andromeda should be abandoned.
I have no interest in the remasters (I can play the trilogy whenever I want on my PS3), and I don't want a retconned, your-choices-are-overridden sequel, but I would be up for a prequel. I reread books, replay games, and rewatch movies and shows, so as long as the journey is interesting, I don't mind knowing the destination.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 29, 2020 17:08:14 GMT
Despite the fact that I had A LOT of issues with Andromeda, I'd also lean toward an Andromeda sequel. If anyone is interested, I explained why in this post a while ago.
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Post by ZaudStorm™ on Jul 30, 2020 21:31:32 GMT
Reboot of the original without the Reapers.
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Post by NotN7 on Jul 30, 2020 21:56:37 GMT
being in the military I know how ruff it is to go from commanding officer to a sergeant to take command during war time, trust me it sucks with that said I can feel for Ryder he/she with no experience to command troops plus the tempest and do what is needed is a challenge so sure it is a challenge for them but guess what they did what they know they can do and survived and carry on to build a presence in Andromeda I applauded them
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 30, 2020 22:12:21 GMT
Reboot of the original without the Reapers. Make the main baddie the Mad Prophet. "REPENT. THE END IS NIGH."
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2020 23:08:02 GMT
Despite the fact that I had A LOT of issues with Andromeda, I'd also lean toward an Andromeda sequel. If anyone is interested, I explained why in this post a while ago. Yea hthose were my reasons for wanting an MEA 2 as well as I thought the ideas were there they just weren't as well executed as perhaps they could have been in places. I think it's certainly something Bioware can learn from going into the next one should they decide to continue
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2020 23:11:17 GMT
being in the military I know how ruff it is to go from commanding officer to a sergeant to take command during war time, trust me it sucks with that said I can feel for Ryder he/she with no experience to command troops plus the tempest and do what is needed is a challenge so sure it is a challenge for them but guess what they did what they know they can do and survived and carry on to build a presence in Andromeda I applauded them Yeah it was a big learnin experience no tjust for Ryder but their entire team. Even Drack I think learned a thing or 2 despite being 1400 years old
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 31, 2020 2:02:10 GMT
Despite the fact that I had A LOT of issues with Andromeda, I'd also lean toward an Andromeda sequel. If anyone is interested, I explained why in this post a while ago. Yea hthose were my reasons for wanting an MEA 2 as well as I thought the ideas were there they just weren't as well executed as perhaps they could have been in places. I think it's certainly something Bioware can learn from going into the next one should they decide to continue Going by what I have experienced first hand and a couple of comments made by AskAGameDev over the years I think BioWare's biggest problem is they underestimate how much time they need to make the game so they put too much into the game's plan and then it falls apart. If they can fix that then I think a lot of the problems I see would be fixed because things wouldn't be cut or altered to finish the game on time.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 31, 2020 2:23:07 GMT
Yea hthose were my reasons for wanting an MEA 2 as well as I thought the ideas were there they just weren't as well executed as perhaps they could have been in places. I think it's certainly something Bioware can learn from going into the next one should they decide to continue Going by what I have experienced first hand and a couple of comments made by AskAGameDev over the years I think BioWare's biggest problem is they underestimate how much time they need to make the game so they put too much into the game's plan and then it falls apart. If they can fix that then I think a lot of the problems I see would be fixed because things wouldn't be cut or altered to finish the game on time. Well when you'er making a game tha ton averag ewill take between 100-200 hours t ocomplete a playthrough I guess it's understandable though. It's surprisin ga tleast for me how smooth their games run though at least on m ycomputers as I've baerly ran into any serious issues while playing them. MEA is probably the only one where I have ran into any kind of issues but thanks to the patches mos tof them have been removed now as most of them were occuring around launch time.
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