Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

I didn't ignore them. I read it, but didn't have a comment since it was still rather general, so I can't once again analyze.

Perhaps we can both sum up our positions as such:

To me the Inquistion was a depiction of the consequences: what happens when you don't deal with x conflict. It was background for main theme 'stop Cory.'

You wanted a game that deals directly with this x shit as the central theme and you didn't want Cory anywhere around or to be secondary conflict.

I feel like we still miss each other somewhat. My initial position was that there is some serious issues with the way the game handled the mage Templar conflict. And I don't think the issue is that it's an issue of "not what I wanted". Rather it was an issue of "not what was promised to me" in addition to what in there very poorly made

People do think that the mages are an oppressed minority because of dragon age 2.

Looks amazing...if that's representative of story and visuals that game is going to crush it.  Happy to see they went with Ciri...actually thought it wasn't going to happen. 

Has she

This trailer absolutely blew my mind. Why are CDProjekt so good at trailers? It reminds me of when they released the Cyberpunk trailer

Can't wait to play as Ciri!

I do understand your general idea - I just wanted more elaboration. I know there are fans of the comics on these forums, while I have not read those. So, they might be alluding to something outside the scope of the game that was handled better in different context, so, I'm genuinely curious about that as it could have given the game a completely different scenario better than the one offered by the game. I thought you had a scenario in mind. As per quality, I was looking for a specific example of what exactly was very badly written. Like, 'in this episode x templar says this and that, and that's total BS because it's more about this and that.'

When it comes to the idea stated by Gor, I like it and would have happily played a game in that context as well. I feel like that idea belongs to a different time frame than Inquisition. You don't need to wait 10 years to begin dealing with the conflict.

Personally, I had accepted the general theme and within the scope of that theme, I can't actually claim myself I was given deeply insightful answer to mage/templar conflict, however, within the boundaries of the setting I found a satisfactory explanation why it was done a certain way. I can't say I had major gripes with the idea of saving the world from Cory - sure, why not.

If I had to pick what drove me crazy with the Inquisition it was the Inquisitor themselves. They have the personality of a pale amoeba that fainted due to malnutrition. I know Rook gets a lot of beating, but these two are close competitors. Goofball as he might be, at least that's an identifiable personality trait, whereas Inquisitor has none. This was more so woefully accented because 'the saving grace of the game' the companions were very well written and had witty lines to respond to you. So, I constantly felt like the dullest bulb in the room since I project that hero role onto myself.

Like this one time I tried to say something to Dorian that would severely nettle him. There is this scene in the library where Dorian expresses his concerns. You can respond with 'maybe you should stop whining and do something about it.' I thought that was just a general idea and Inky would say at least something jackass like 'Maybe you should have slid Alexius' throat asap rather than fleeing like a coward and hoping some guy with a glowing hand would resolve it for you.' Nope. He said that exact lame line that was offered without any grain of imagination. To which Dorian, rightfully so, simply demolished him by saying with style, 'You mean like challenging Alexius, fleeing Tevinter... insert long list of stuff he has actually done.' I was like, yup preach it Dorian, this nub Inks just got totally outclassed by someone with superior wit and eloquence.

They even brought back the chain from the first Witcher game's intro, she just uses it in a new clever way. But yeah, you take one look at this and both the art style and the general mood of the trailer scream "Witcher universe" at you.

Hopefully we won't be getting letters from pops Geralt about how Toussaint and the northern kingdoms are going to sh*t

Give the bones of Joplin to Spiders studio and let us enjoy an endearing janky mess.

Inquisitor is a completely random schlemazel who was suddenly thrust into the very center of Thedas' political and religious life and has the only means to close demon-spewing interdimensional rifts (and they did that literally just by entering a wrong door at a wrong time), so they have to constantly be front and center of everything, and it's not surprising that they're out of their depth more often than not.
Rook is a slightly less random schlemazel (he was recruited by Varric) who lives in a cozy pocket dimension with a ragtag bunch of weird friends and occasionally emerges to do sidequests.

OMG!!!! If they do even 80% as good a job as Witcher 3, I'm going to play the living lights out of THIS! Now THIS looks GOTY material to me!!



Adonniel rushing to play Witcher 4.

CDPR has learned from Bioware apparently; they released a trailer set in the proper tone. That being said, if you visit their corporate website, you'll discover it has DEI slop plastered all over it. So, beware of deception.

It certainly won't be a pre-order or day-1 purchase for me.


EDIT:  The graphics however are superbly realistic, without falling into uncanny valley territory.  But Ciri isn't supposed to be a full fledged witcher; she's a female and females cannot go through the Trial of Grass.  And yet here we see her eyes become cat-like after drinking that potion, just like Gerald.  More retcon incoming?

EDIT2:  Also, it's a pity they chose to ignore the 'Ciri as Empress' scenario - but I suppose you can't have a 'girl-boss who don't need no men' if she's in a ceremonial dress and not bunking in the mud, swords at hand.

EDIT3:  Some humorous quips found on a Youtube comment section:


- "Ciri, the long lost Habsburg child. God that jawline could be used to cut glass."


- "Hit the wall so hard her facial structure changed"


- "Who is she going to be a self-insert of? Show your jaw, designer."


- "That's not Ciri, that's someone mid transition."