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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 17, 2020 17:01:39 GMT
Concerning Solas' power level, well that would actually be a reason not to fight him directly. That power level does not mean his arguments are better. Oh, and in case someone now starts to whine about wanting to shank him oh-so much... well, remember how Bioware did not allow us to shoot TIM's head off right away and instead we had to sit through yet another pointless argument with more human supremacy rambling? Yeah. To be honest, if anybody kills Solas, it should be an elf. They have most to loose from his plans. If he suceeds, they die. If he is stopped by someone else, people will go genocide elves just because.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Sept 17, 2020 17:02:11 GMT
On the offf chance Solas does prove to be 'too stubourn to be redeamed' I would pay for a dialogue option that says something along the lines of "Solas, you have failed this continent!/Thedas" before having to put an arrow through his eye Something that would also appeal to me is using his own words to Dorian back at him. Solas: I'm really sorry that I am going to destroy your world. PC: If you are truly sorry then save all the races, not just one. Solas: I don't know that I can do that. PC: Then how sorry are you? This was good, but I'd want Dorian to get the chance to say this instead.
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Post by TabithaTH on Sept 21, 2020 10:47:35 GMT
I have Inquisitors that want to save him and those that want to kill him. No matter how I personally feel, I’ll do at least one of each because I want to experience both conclusions.
If it was real life, I wouldn’t trust a ‘redeemed’ Solas to not return to his old ways. However, since it’s a work of fiction, we know that Solas will be as redeemable as the writers allow. If they give him the option of repenting, we can be sure that he is no longer a threat (Unless the writers later change their minds, but personally I think that would be a very stupid idea). If we redeem him, he would be changed for good. There won’t be any danger in letting him live and the choice will be completely up to the player/PC’s discretion.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 21, 2020 21:21:29 GMT
hm...throwing pie in his face then drag him back by the ears...yep, that's the strategy that or have Sera kick him in the face
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 22, 2020 0:07:43 GMT
Sparing Solas might go bad for the player later on under the right conditions, like it can with Zevran or Bull.
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Post by kalreegar on Sept 22, 2020 8:15:30 GMT
Sparing Solas might go bad for the player later on under the right conditions, like it can with Zevran or Bull. after everything and everyone, for the entire duration of the game, warned you against solas, during the final confrontation you are able to "redeem" solas by convincing him to desist from his evil plans -> oh yes, oh yes thank you mighty player, now I understand how wrong I was... -> you can even recruit him and bring him to your fortress/tevinter skyhold -> you go to talk to him, all proud of your persuasion skills, feeling confident and at ease -> a brutal Morinth-like scene happens. critical game over. You are given two choiches. a. reload the game before the confrontation with solas b. you take control of all your surviving party members and fight Solas right here, right now, on the lifeless body of your naive main character these are what I call "choices with consequences".
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Post by kalreegar on Sept 22, 2020 8:51:00 GMT
Maybe I would allow you to succeed and effectively redeem solas only if a series of very difficult and optional requirements are met. For example... Your main character is an elf mage. You have reached the highest level and unlocked special abilities. You have destroyed both the tevinter and the qunari, freed all elves and vowed to do the same with the elves of the south of thedas. Solas romanced the inquisitor and you have saved the inquisitor. You have recovered and preserved a certain artifact. Practically impossible to do, especially in the first playthrough. Something a bit like certain dark-soul endings
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 22, 2020 10:29:10 GMT
Maybe I would allow you to succeed and effectively redeem solas only if a series of very difficult and optional requirements are met. For example... Your main character is an elf mage. You have reached the highest level and unlocked special abilities. You have destroyed both the tevinter and the qunari, freed all elves and vowed to do the same with the elves of the south of thedas. Solas romanced the inquisitor and you have saved the inquisitor. You have recovered and preserved a certain artifact. Practically impossible to do, especially in the first playthrough. Something a bit like certain dark-soul endings While this might be a bit extreme, I wouldn't be against something along these lines. Take AC: Odyssey, for example. I absolutely LOVED how, if you played your cards just right...if you made all the right moves...in the end, you were able to save Deimos from themself. You quite literally talk them off the edge of a cliff. I managed to do this on my first playthrough, and it was one of the most satisfying moments in all my gaming memory. It was brilliant. I would love to have a similar option for Solas.
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Post by Frost on Sept 22, 2020 13:11:31 GMT
Going after Solas ruthlessly (at all costs) might draw out his Dread Wolf side and cause him to respond more ruthlessly as well. Similar to Leliana in DAI but with more obvious choices and a larger scale.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2020 16:33:18 GMT
Going after Solas ruthlessly (at all costs) might draw out his Dread Wolf side and cause him to respond more ruthlessly as well. Similar to Leliana in DAI but with more obvious choices and a larger scale. I’m afraid this is going to be the fate of those Inquisitors who chose to Stop Solas instead of Save him.
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Post by xerrai on Sept 22, 2020 16:43:04 GMT
Going after Solas ruthlessly (at all costs) might draw out his Dread Wolf side and cause him to respond more ruthlessly as well. Similar to Leliana in DAI but with more obvious choices and a larger scale. I’m afraid this is going to be the fate of those Inquisitors who chose to Stop Solas instead of Save him. Honestly, if that route will give me additional/more difficult boss fights I would be all for it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2020 23:14:35 GMT
I’m afraid this is going to be the fate of those Inquisitors who chose to Stop Solas instead of Save him. Honestly, if that route will give me additional/more difficult boss fights I would be all for it. I'm not. I don't want them ruined.
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Post by Frost on Sept 22, 2020 23:27:39 GMT
Honestly, if that route will give me additional/more difficult boss fights I would be all for it. I'm not. I don't want them ruined. Hopefully Bioware has learned from DAI and will let us select choices and dialogue for the Inquisitor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 23, 2020 0:55:54 GMT
I'm not. I don't want them ruined. Hopefully Bioware has learned from DAI and will let us select choices and dialogue for the Inquisitor. I doubt it.
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Post by duskwanderer on Sept 23, 2020 1:12:32 GMT
No, I think Solas is beyond help.
What I want to do is to tell Solas something along the lines of: "You spent your whole life not thinking things through. You didn't realize what creating the Veil would do. You underestimated Corypheus. You underestimated humanity. And now your goal is to re-create the world that was so awful you destroyed it in the first place. Your insane, ridiculous quest would end the very second you learned how to stop. And think."
And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Sept 23, 2020 1:14:19 GMT
And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium. Also a poorly thought-out idea, lulz.
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Post by duskwanderer on Sept 24, 2020 11:15:09 GMT
And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium. Also a poorly thought-out idea, lulz. Nah, it's perfectly fine. Varric has shown us you can take proper precautions around the stuff.
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Post by kalreegar on Sept 24, 2020 14:33:53 GMT
And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium. Yes, let's put the body on an ancient elven supermegapowerful mage, a fragment of mythal and maybe the soul of an old God/archdemon, in a prison of red lyrium. What can possibly go wrong? : D
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Post by arvaarad on Sept 24, 2020 15:57:10 GMT
No, I think Solas is beyond help. What I want to do is to tell Solas something along the lines of: "You spent your whole life not thinking things through. You didn't realize what creating the Veil would do. You underestimated Corypheus. You underestimated humanity. And now your goal is to re-create the world that was so awful you destroyed it in the first place. Your insane, ridiculous quest would end the very second you learned how to stop. And think." And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium. Ah yes, death. That thing which famously stopped Mythal from plotting a millenia-spanning shakespearian vengeance on the other gods. Super 100% permanent, that death.
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Post by xerrai on Sept 24, 2020 16:43:03 GMT
No, I think Solas is beyond help. What I want to do is to tell Solas something along the lines of: "You spent your whole life not thinking things through. You didn't realize what creating the Veil would do. You underestimated Corypheus. You underestimated humanity. And now your goal is to re-create the world that was so awful you destroyed it in the first place. Your insane, ridiculous quest would end the very second you learned how to stop. And think." And then I would execute him and imprison his remains in red lyrium. Ah yes, death. That thing which famously stopped Mythal from plotting a millenia-spanning shakespearian vengeance on the other gods. Super 100% permanent, that death. To be fair, that period of death was a decent roadblock. Assuming Flemeth was her first instance of possession since her death, that meant Mythal was more or less inactive for 3,000 years give or take. She was reduced to a wisp too, so its very unlikely she was able to do all that much in the fade. Maybe for beings as powerful and ancient as them, that is as close to true death as they can get. In which case, the trick would be either trapping them or keeping them in that reduced wisp-state. Or reforming them into something else that is more beneficial. The fading idea of them by the erosion of time could also theoretically kill them off, but that is outside of our control.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 24, 2020 17:02:42 GMT
This is how Solas should be handled:
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Post by xerrai on Sept 24, 2020 17:14:04 GMT
This is how Solas should be handled: Hm. Yes, this is speaking to me. I hereby vote that we can seal Solas in a Box of Screaming that we can send to the Inquisitor.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 24, 2020 17:21:47 GMT
This is how Solas should be handled: That reminds me of... Careful what you wish for.
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