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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Oct 29, 2020 23:47:12 GMT
It seems like to me the characters of the original trilogy were like adults you would find in the 90s and 2000s while Andromeda's characters reminded me of 2010s college students. I heard the developers of the original Mass Effect trilogy were busy with Anthem while a different development team worked on Andromeda. Is this true? Did the culture and people of the 80s and 90s influence the Mass Effect trilogy?
Would you want the characters of the next ME to be like that again?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 30, 2020 12:10:32 GMT
It seems like to me the characters of the original trilogy were like adults you would find in the 90s and 2000s while Andromeda's characters reminded me of 2010s college students. I heard the developers of the original Mass Effect trilogy were busy with Anthem while a different development team worked on Andromeda. Is this true? Did the culture and people of the 80s and 90s influence the Mass Effect trilogy?
Would you want the characters of the next ME to be like that again?
The answer to youir second question is yes as Edmomton worked on the trilogy had their hands full with Anthem while Montrral took care of MEA As for the res tof that it's down to opinion and taste
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Oct 30, 2020 12:24:01 GMT
It seems like to me the characters of the original trilogy were like adults you would find in the 90s and 2000s while Andromeda's characters reminded me of 2010s college students. I heard the developers of the original Mass Effect trilogy were busy with Anthem while a different development team worked on Andromeda. Is this true?Did the culture and people of the 80s and 90s influence the Mass Effect trilogy?
Would you want the characters of the next ME to be like that again?
I actually felt now playing through most of them in a row, OT people felt mostly very wooden, not very real as how people act in most situations. Some a bit more adult yeah but most were information poles until me3, where they started to get some deepness. In MEA I feel during this one game the characters actually grow. I would like the next characaters in ME game be more of both, but less of walking info npc.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 30, 2020 12:45:12 GMT
Yes.
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Post by correctamundo on Oct 30, 2020 15:04:49 GMT
Nope, particularly not renegade Shep.
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Post by vonuber on Oct 30, 2020 15:29:31 GMT
Yes, because in the 1990s/ 2000s the internet wasn't that wide spread, so all conversations started with 'I'd like to know more about [topic]'. And then you would get a few minutes of information dump.
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Post by AnDromedary on Oct 30, 2020 18:59:51 GMT
Yes, because in the 1990s/ 2000s the internet wasn't that wide spread, so all conversations started with 'I'd like to know more about [topic]'. And then you would get a few minutes of information dump. And they all ended with "I should go" because people actually met.
Garrus was definitely from the 80s though. Only in the 80s would you shoot people and then drop one liners like "bag 'em and tag 'em" or "Boom! Headshot!"
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Post by ahglock on Nov 1, 2020 1:32:02 GMT
It seems like to me the characters of the original trilogy were like adults you would find in the 90s and 2000s while Andromeda's characters reminded me of 2010s college students. I heard the developers of the original Mass Effect trilogy were busy with Anthem while a different development team worked on Andromeda. Is this true? Did the culture and people of the 80s and 90s influence the Mass Effect trilogy?
Would you want the characters of the next ME to be like that again?
I guess maybe. They reminded me of people I know more and my adulthood started in the 90s. The Andromeda crew seem more like someone I'd see on a modern sitcom now. Which very well may be a reflection of society and people today. I've just aged past that group or something.
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Post by ClarkKent on Nov 5, 2020 10:12:28 GMT
I don't think it's a generational thing - I just think the characters in Mass Effect Andromeda barely spoke like people full stop.
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Post by 10k on Nov 7, 2020 13:22:12 GMT
If your question is: would you Like mature characters? My answer is yes, very much so. Everyone in Andromeda seemed oblivious to everything, and wanted to make jokes every chance they got. A more serious and mature cast of characters would be appreciated.
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Post by helios969 on Nov 10, 2020 8:17:01 GMT
It's all Father Ryder's fault. For some reason he recruited children to his cause...maybe they were the only ones willing to follow him.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 10, 2020 9:03:37 GMT
Not that anything was wrong with the characters but the ones in Andromeda were complex, dynamic, 3 dimensional human beings.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 11, 2020 19:24:58 GMT
Not that anything was wrong with the characters but the ones in Andromeda were complex, dynamic, 3 dimensional human beings. I don't know. I just had a very "who the fuck are you and why are you even here" sort of reaction to every character in Andromeda, including the two playable Ryders. I didn't find them intriguing or interesting and Bioware did nothing, really, with them to change it.
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 11, 2020 21:26:28 GMT
Not that anything was wrong with the characters but the ones in Andromeda were complex, dynamic, 3 dimensional human beings. ME trilogy "maturity" is really mainly just online edginess.
Punching a journalist over minor annoyance? SUCH MATURITY!
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Post by natetrace on Nov 11, 2020 21:40:46 GMT
These are quite the questions. Can’t say they remind me of anyone I’ve ever known, even back in the 90s. I think the characters joking around more in Andromeda is to cover an undercurrent of sadness they express once in a while. Also they’re younger.
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Post by ahglock on Nov 11, 2020 22:27:03 GMT
Not that anything was wrong with the characters but the ones in Andromeda were complex, dynamic, 3 dimensional human beings. ME trilogy "maturity" is really mainly just online edginess.
Punching a journalist over minor annoyance? SUCH MATURITY!
Then don't punch her. I only did once for the gag, which is what it is a running gag.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 11, 2020 23:10:35 GMT
Not that anything was wrong with the characters but the ones in Andromeda were complex, dynamic, 3 dimensional human beings. I don't know. I just had a very "who the fuck are you and why are you even here" sort of reaction to every character in Andromeda, including the two playable Ryders. I didn't find them intriguing or interesting and Bioware did nothing, really, with them to change it. Well... They did all have reasons to be there and they all had experience and relevent fields that could be valuable to the Intiative...well except for maybe Drack but then he certainly still had a lot of combat experience.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 11, 2020 23:22:22 GMT
They did all have reasons to be there and they all had experience and relevent fields that could be valuable to the Intiative...well except for maybe Drack but then he certainly still had a lot of combat experience. But they're not interesting. The reason they were there was just "they signed up". Real fucking special.
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Post by ahglock on Nov 11, 2020 23:32:33 GMT
I don't know. I just had a very "who the fuck are you and why are you even here" sort of reaction to every character in Andromeda, including the two playable Ryders. I didn't find them intriguing or interesting and Bioware did nothing, really, with them to change it. Well... They did all have reasons to be there and they all had experience and relevent fields that could be valuable to the Intiative...well except for maybe Drack but then he certainly still had a lot of combat experience.
I guess they sort of had reasons, but experience? Its like they went out of their way to find the least qualified people to be on a colony ship. I wouldn't trust them to cross the street unsupervised.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 11, 2020 23:38:03 GMT
It's all Father Ryder's fault. For some reason he recruited children to his cause...maybe they were the only ones willing to follow him. The issue I have with big Ryder is did he ask any questions when dealing with Kosta? I find it hard to believe he would allow some guy being suspended x amount of times on the roster. When Kosta first said that, my first thought is this guy is a trouble maker. And true to form, he lives up to that name later in the game. If Kosta didn't tell big Ryder about those, wouldn't big Ryder have read his record saying he was suspended for whatever reason?
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Post by ahglock on Nov 11, 2020 23:40:12 GMT
It's all Father Ryder's fault. For some reason he recruited children to his cause...maybe they were the only ones willing to follow him. The issue I have with big Ryder is did he ask any questions when dealing with Kosta? I find it hard to believe he would allow some guy being suspended x amount of times on the roster. When Kosta first said that, my first thought is this guy is a trouble maker. And true to form, he lives up to that name later in the game. If Kosta didn't tell big Ryder about those, wouldn't big Ryder have read his record saying he was suspended for whatever reason? When I had first heard he was suspended a lot I had assumed he was this renegade baller crossing the lines to get things done. Sadly, no. That being said as stupid as his loyalty mission was, it was fun.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 12, 2020 1:20:14 GMT
They did all have reasons to be there and they all had experience and relevent fields that could be valuable to the Intiative...well except for maybe Drack but then he certainly still had a lot of combat experience. But they're not interesting. The reason they were there was just "they signed up". Real fucking special. *shrugs* I don't know what to tell you. I felt the MEA cast was the second most 'interesting' cast that has been put in a Mass Effect game. And playing as Ryder was way more interesting then playing as Shepard (not to mention just in general better, more consistent, writing). Well... They did all have reasons to be there and they all had experience and relevent fields that could be valuable to the Intiative...well except for maybe Drack but then he certainly still had a lot of combat experience.
I guess they sort of had reasons, but experience? Its like they went out of their way to find the least qualified people to be on a colony ship. I wouldn't trust them to cross the street unsupervised.
Running down the list: Liam-Crisis response- there could be several emergency situations that his background could be suited for. Vetra-Salvage and engineer- Who knows what kind of tech might be out there the initiative might have to repurpose let alone thier own technology if the worse hapens. Jaal- Angarran Special Forces- while the initiative is not military in nature, well it ended up being a good thing he was there. Cora- Asari Special Forces, biotics, command experience- all of which could be invaluable to the initiative. Drack- Krogan warlord 1000 + years old- while he may not have a lot to offer in his old age, he still has experience in spades. Pee bee- archeological/ exploration- her inclusion might be the most sus on this list it was a good thing she was along...wasn't it? Now as to their general competence I will just leave that debate for another time, though I feel Drack, Jaal, Cora, and Vetra were more then competent while Pee bee and Liam were less so.
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Post by helios969 on Nov 12, 2020 6:37:23 GMT
The issue I have with big Ryder is did he ask any questions when dealing with Kosta? I find it hard to believe he would allow some guy being suspended x amount of times on the roster. When Kosta first said that, my first thought is this guy is a trouble maker. And true to form, he lives up to that name later in the game. If Kosta didn't tell big Ryder about those, wouldn't big Ryder have read his record saying he was suspended for whatever reason? When I had first heard he was suspended a lot I had assumed he was this renegade baller crossing the lines to get things done. Sadly, no. That being said as stupid as his loyalty mission was, it was fun. Yeah, it was fun but I still would have liked to dismiss him from the squad...one of the key places where I missed the old renegade interrupt.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 12, 2020 10:37:43 GMT
I don't know what to tell you. That makes two of us.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 13, 2020 13:51:58 GMT
Adults in the 90’s or 2000’s? I dunno what this is really supposed to mean, but as someone who remembers the 90’s and 2000’s, people said dumbass shit back then too lol
Just no punching reporters. Because that’s pretty stupid.
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