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Mar 28, 2024 13:25:21 GMT
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Son of Dorn
Fortifying everything.
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January 2017
doomlolz
Dragon Age Inquisition
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 9, 2020 17:21:20 GMT
Which one? They all look the same. Lexi and Vederia. So asari 209#L and asari 409#V.
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Pounce de León
Praise the Justicat!
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August 2016
catastrophy
caustic_agent
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 9, 2020 17:37:31 GMT
So asari 209#L and asari 409#V. Lexi is OK.
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Son of Dorn
Fortifying everything.
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January 2017
doomlolz
Dragon Age Inquisition
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 9, 2020 17:41:27 GMT
So asari 209#L and asari 409#V. Lexi is OK. Besides the fact that she and the other asari look like clones? Then again, I never talked to her (thought I would get ninjamanced by her the same way that happens if you talk to Liara the second time in ME1).
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October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 9, 2020 17:54:24 GMT
Also I’d hardly call only a few months a long time. 6 months is not "a few". It counts as several. Certainly not enough to heal a lifetime of extreme trauma Well, this is the future. I would expect that we have better understanding of mental trauma by then and better ways to deal with it. Perhaps it is even an explanation as to why Jack isn't as powerful, after she gets recruited, i.e. her medication "dulls" her potential. Which is why I say that we didn't explore these characters enough. I'd assume Dr Chocolates is a professional and can handle a number of things. Not sure about the mental parts though She'd have to. I assume more than one soldier with PTSD or some form of mental scaring went through her infirmary's threshold. But Kelly? Really? She's a Cerberus mole to spy on the Commander. I wouldn't count anything on her bogus CV Apparently she prefaces TIM picking her for her impeccable resume. In spite of meeting her as a maid on a cruise ship. Or am I remembering that wrong? Anyway, she is supposed to be the one the entire crew talks to, as far as psychological support is required. So she'd have to be capable and, if anything, Jack would be an interesting case for her.
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Pounce de León
Praise the Justicat!
7,910
August 2016
catastrophy
caustic_agent
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 9, 2020 18:18:17 GMT
Also I’d hardly call only a few months a long time. 6 months is not "a few". It counts as several. Certainly not enough to heal a lifetime of extreme trauma Well, this is the future. I would expect that we have better understanding of mental trauma by then and better ways to deal with it. Perhaps it is even an explanation as to why Jack isn't as powerful, after she gets recruited, i.e. her medication "dulls" her potential. Which is why I say that we didn't explore these characters enough. I'd assume Dr Chocolates is a professional and can handle a number of things. Not sure about the mental parts though She'd have to. I assume more than one soldier with PTSD or some form of mental scaring went through her infirmary's threshold. But Kelly? Really? She's a Cerberus mole to spy on the Commander. I wouldn't count anything on her bogus CV Apparently she prefaces TIM picking her for her impeccable resume. In spite of meeting her as a maid on a cruise ship. Or am I remembering that wrong? Anyway, she is supposed to be the one the entire crew talks to, as far as psychological support is required. So she'd have to be capable and, if anything, Jack would be an interesting case for her. Well, why would Jack trust a Cerbie psy-doc anyway? Dont get much. No idea what preface means To present oneself? And cruise ship maid? Is this some second source stuff? From some comic or novel? I can only go by what I know and that is the games. Or rather ME2 since that concludes the fate of the cerberus snitch.
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The Smiling Knight
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Mar 28, 2024 17:20:59 GMT
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smilesja
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August 2016
smilesja
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Post by smilesja on Dec 9, 2020 18:21:01 GMT
Funnily enough, therapists counselling victims of abuse don't tend to recommend rushing into relationships as a form of treatment No. In fact, the person needs to go through a lot of help, beforehand, in order to be able to function in a relationship. In the game, however, a lot of time passes between Jack's recruitment and the attack on the Reaper base. In the meantime, Jack has received support and has had time to bond with the team she is in, facing a lot of her fears and prejudices. Kelly on the ship works as a psychologist, on top of that and Zero can also get medical care, both physical and mental, through Chakwas. As a doctor who has served on many military ships, I assume it goes without saying that Chakwas knows at least a little about the mental stress of soldiers and some modicum of mental health knowledge. We also know that Jack has talked to Kelly, without or presence, Kelly tells us so a few times that Jack wants to talk to us, if we bother talking to Kelly, as she talks about things on the minds of all the crew. So during this voyage of building relationships, building trust, building loyalty and affording her a secure environment, as secure as a SM can be, on the ship, shielded from external factors, like malevolent Cerberus cells intent on recapturing her, for example, after all that time, the final barrier Jack would need to overcome is that of a romantic relationship. Which is not something Jack is intimately familiar with, but seeing as it might be her last and only chance to pursuit it, comes so emotionally heart wrenching for her. It is the culmination of an on-screen/off-screen process for her that takes the entire game to reach, that requires taking down barriers, persistence, personal growth, bearing yourself, guilt, fear of failure and it all hinges on winning a very difficult uphill battle, to prove her prejudices and misconceptions wrong. It's something that Jack admits herself. " You know what it's like... to think you're alone and find out you're not?" It's not something that happens in the first 5 minutes of you meeting her. It is a long and arduous process and it involves fixing a virtually insurmountable number of issues with her, from learning to operate as part of a unit, to her own individual problems, a process that most would think is not even worth the effort and, under the circumstances, I'd think rightfully so. I think that to oversimplify it to "healing dick" is such a disservice to her arc and her romance. To be honest it's the same as oversimplifying calling ME:A characters as "children". They have their conflicts and desires, besides considering we don't get to see Jack meeting Kelly I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the relationship feels rushing into a relationship.
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Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
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SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 9, 2020 18:21:32 GMT
Well, why would Jack trust a Cerbie psy-doc anyway? We know that she does, because Jack does indeed talk to her, though the why has never been explained, nor does Shepard ask Kelly how she did it.
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Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
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SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 9, 2020 18:34:55 GMT
To be honest it's the same as oversimplifying calling ME:A characters as "children". I call them terribly written. The ideas behind the characters aren't necessarily bad, but the way they are written is. Their arcs may as well be fulfilling, but their personalities, the way they are written to behave and react do not resemble the behaviours of adults. And I do recall a interview where Bioware talked about how they wanted Andromeda to be about a younger crew. And that idea is good, too. Because you will be wanting to engage a new, young audience that will follow these characters in their exploits and mature alongside the audience, with new installments and the return of these characters, or whoever among them proves popular enough to warrant a return. The ideas aren't bad, the characters aren't bad, but the execution of them was. And they didn't have to outdo the ME2 crew, in terms of public reception, Bioware would have to be deluded to think they could or would, but they had to be mildly acceptable to the larger audience, which they weren't. And yes, I get it, they are largely popular here and to ME's subreddit, to an extent, but that means nothing to the greater audience, which didn't purchase ME:A to begin with and out of those who did, criticized the characters in general. I put the blame squarely on Bioware's writers.
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Mar 28, 2024 13:25:21 GMT
5,955
Son of Dorn
Fortifying everything.
6,263
Jan 11, 2017 14:17:27 GMT
January 2017
doomlolz
Dragon Age Inquisition
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 9, 2020 18:51:00 GMT
To be honest it's the same as oversimplifying calling ME:A characters as "children". I call them terribly written. The ideas behind the characters aren't necessarily bad, but the way they are written is. Their arcs may as well be fulfilling, but their personalities, the way they are written to behave and react do not resemble the behaviours of adults. And I do recall a interview where Bioware talked about how they wanted Andromeda to be about a younger crew. And that idea is good, too. Because you will be wanting to engage a new, young audience that will follow these characters in their exploits and mature alongside the audience, with new installments and the return of these characters, or whoever among them proves popular enough to warrant a return. The ideas aren't bad, the characters aren't bad, but the execution of them was. And they didn't have to outdo the ME2 crew, in terms of public reception, Bioware would have to be deluded to think they could or would, but they had to be mildly acceptable to the larger audience, which they weren't. And yes, I get it, they are largely popular here and to ME's subreddit, to an extent, but that means nothing to the greater audience, which didn't purchase ME:A to begin with and out of those who did, criticized the characters in general. I put the blame squarely on Bioware's writers. Not to mention the pointless jokes....😒
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Nov 24, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
5,622
SirSourpuss
7,694
Oct 16, 2017 16:19:07 GMT
October 2017
sirpetrakus
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, SWTOR
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 9, 2020 18:56:22 GMT
Not to mention the pointless jokes....😒 That's just Whedonisms. Thankfully, Ray Fisher cancelled him and that's one thing we can be grateful to the Justice League movie for. And yes, I loved Firefly, but dude. No.
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Mar 28, 2024 13:25:21 GMT
5,955
Son of Dorn
Fortifying everything.
6,263
Jan 11, 2017 14:17:27 GMT
January 2017
doomlolz
Dragon Age Inquisition
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 9, 2020 18:58:30 GMT
Not to mention the pointless jokes....😒 That's just Whedonisms. Thankfully, Ray Fisher cancelled him and that's one thing we can be grateful to the Justice League movie for. And yes, I loved Firefly, but dude. No. I like jokes in movies and games as much as the next guy but too much is too much!
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The homeostatic problem-solving structure
8860
0
Apr 26, 2022 11:22:31 GMT
8,491
Unicephalon 40-D
An unknown possibly hostile flotilla detected at eight hundred astronomical units from the sun!
4,782
Jun 29, 2017 12:57:11 GMT
June 2017
legendcncd
Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
LegendCNCD / AsariLoverFI
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 13, 2020 19:46:01 GMT
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Elvis Has Left The Building
7794
0
Oct 31, 2020 23:57:02 GMT
8,066
pessimistpanda
3,804
Apr 18, 2017 15:57:34 GMT
April 2017
pessimistpanda
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 13, 2020 23:12:09 GMT
Hang on.
Why would/should adults living 100 years in the future behave like adults from the early 90s and 2000s (whatever the fuck that means)? Why wouldn't they behave more like adults do now, or entirely differently again?
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0
Feb 16, 2024 23:42:38 GMT
1,214
flyingovertrout
marxist asshole
547
August 2016
flyingovertrout
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Post by flyingovertrout on Dec 23, 2020 17:09:38 GMT
I don't really understand the premise of the OP, but I just wanna say, everything that old people say about millennials and zoomers is pretty much the shit old people were saying about my slacker generation in the 80s and 90s. You're all Principal Strickland with this shit. Principal Stricklands all the way down.
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Kabraxal
N4
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 1,004 Likes: 2,731
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3790
0
2,731
Kabraxal
1,004
Feb 23, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
February 2017
kabraxal
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 23, 2020 19:22:41 GMT
I’m beginning to think a lot of posters here haven’t interacted with many real adults.... like, the shit being said just does not add up with the real world at all. It’s like, they formed their opinions on idealised adulthood as portrayed by Star Trek or the gritty adulthood of a Sopranos.
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ahglock
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Origin: ShinobiKillfist
Posts: 2,858 Likes: 3,466
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9886
0
3,466
ahglock
2,858
Feb 21, 2018 17:57:17 GMT
February 2018
ahglock
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
ShinobiKillfist
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Post by ahglock on Dec 23, 2020 19:51:30 GMT
I’m beginning to think a lot of posters here haven’t interacted with many real adults.... like, the shit being said just does not add up with the real world at all. It’s like, they formed their opinions on idealised adulthood as portrayed by Star Trek or the gritty adulthood of a Sopranos. Weird I was thinking the same but about different people I think.
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