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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Dec 8, 2020 6:16:03 GMT
Or you know, people can stop strawmaning Destroy as a "Disney" ending. Because there is nothing Disney about galactic devastation. So... You don't want destroy as the ending...? Destroy is the Disney ending because it is the most obvious, shallow, primitive and short-sighted choice. Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. Just to clarify what decade are you referring to that being the definition of a "Disney" ending? Since there are movies from Disney that actually have those things you mention. Examples off the top of my head: 1940's Bambi
1950's: Old Yeller 1960's The Legend of Lobo 1970's
The Black Hole 1980's Benji the Hunted
1990's
The Lion King
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The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe Granted most are animals but still a death is a death that is a death.
The Green is more of a Disney ending then Destroy is. Like it is now, yes. How people want destroy to actually play out...? No. Well... Considering that Disney also has Marvel studios and Marvel seems to be heading for galactic trouble with the Phase 3/4(?) of the movie franchise...
So maybe galactic devastation is coming soon for disney...
UNLESS you want to consider what they did to star wars as galactic devastation then they already have done it.
What a load of shit. Why do people desperately try and defend their version of how it should have gone by lying about what people actually wanted (which was a well written and coherent ending that made sense within the universe we have been playing in for three games)? The delusions people choose to believe to validate their own world view never ceases to amaze me. MEHEM exists for a reason... So while we're at it, what would be your 'perfect' ending to the trilogy...? As much as I hate to say it vagueness can sometimes work to inspire debate about an ending. ARRIVAL or Inception for example. Nevertheless it worked here though... As to whether or not it was a positive ending is something that continues to be debated EIGHT PLUS years later!
My person belief is that one of two things occurred:
1: Bioware was told by EA to get it out to the public now! Thus the chop suey we got.
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2: They planed one of the endings that are already on NEXUSMODS website. And either couldn't figure out how to implement it well enough or looking back at #1.
Probably am wrong on all accounts but who cares as long as it is still talked about. Still I will make no demands of creators since I know their view will be modified by the most avid of fans. And these fans will create mods to satisfy people whether it be MEHEM or EGM or even ITEM... Somehow, someway, it will be found to make ME3 better.
IF BIOWARE doesn't like it they shouldn't have released ME3 to the public
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 8, 2020 7:57:08 GMT
Or you know, people can stop strawmaning Destroy as a "Disney" ending. Because there is nothing Disney about galactic devastation. So... You don't want destroy as the ending...? Destroy is the Disney ending because it is the most obvious, shallow, primitive and short-sighted choice. Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. Yes, I do want destroy. The way Bioware did it. Fuck the Geth, and fuck EDI. I don't give a damn about them, and idk why anyone else does. The fact that people would rather have the stupid Geth back, rather than a real sequel just tells me the fanbase might not deserve one.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 8, 2020 8:49:18 GMT
Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. 'Many people'. Uh-huh. Try 'a tiny minority'. As I said previously, at least try and argue the facts, not your fantasies.
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Post by helios969 on Dec 8, 2020 8:49:38 GMT
Nobody said you can't or shouldn't love it. Now whether anyone thought it, on the other hand... Meanie.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Dec 8, 2020 9:19:52 GMT
That's a terrible idea, because we already got that game and you know what it was about? Stopping Cerberus. Because you can't fight kilometer long robot space squids on a three man squad TPS. We already got that game and it was barely serviceable. And maybe the point of it is to get a game where everyone you love, fights a losing battle, you're forced to make some hard choices and sacrifices. Basically watch everyone you loved die. Oh wait. That's TLoU2. And if I want to feel empty and depressed again, I'll just play ME3. It does the trick, regardless. Hey, it wouldn’t be TLOU2 bad. At least in this game it would be characters we are supposed to hate doing things like murdering unarmed prisoners, pregnant women, etc instead of characters we are supposed to root for all for the sake of a preachy moral it goes against. Though I fear after this week many games will be like that if it wins a lot of awards. This Game awards is going to suck if that happens. Well more than it already will. The awards follows the inverse now. If it is great it looses and if its horrible it wins. I no longer call it an awards show... Its just a sneeze drooled sham made by those who have no business being associated with gamers or creators. Ghost of Tsushima is a better game, I keep believing! Everyone who isn't a game journalist knows that. Even the journalist know it. They are just in denial forever.
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Post by Ascend on Dec 8, 2020 14:58:31 GMT
Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. 'Many people'. Uh-huh. Try 'a tiny minority'. As I said previously, at least try and argue the facts, not your fantasies. LOL yeah right... If destroy as it is right now is so good, why does everyone hate the current ending...? You're simply dismissing the facts as fantasies because it is inconvenient for your preconceived opinions. But whatever floats your boat...
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Post by The Hype Himself on Dec 8, 2020 15:05:53 GMT
Or you know, people can stop strawmaning Destroy as a "Disney" ending. Because there is nothing Disney about galactic devastation. So... You don't want destroy as the ending...? Destroy is the Disney ending because it is the most obvious, shallow, primitive and short-sighted choice. Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. Wait, I'm confused. Are you calling the Destroy ending as it sorta canonically is a 'Disney' ending, or are you calling the non-canon fan mod that?
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 8, 2020 15:51:11 GMT
'Many people'. Uh-huh. Try 'a tiny minority'. As I said previously, at least try and argue the facts, not your fantasies. LOL yeah right... If destroy as it is right now is so good, why does everyone hate the current ending...? You're simply dismissing the facts as fantasies because it is inconvenient for your preconceived opinions. But whatever floats your boat... The only fact is, you're making two different arguments at the same time. idk why your even talking about some stupid ending MOD as if that is relevant to anything. If you're seriously asking "why do people hate the ending" after 8 years of constantly explaining why, then you're either A, wholly obtuse and just not paying any attention. or B, willfully obtuse and making a bad faith argument to push an argument about some stupid mod and "disney" crap that is totally unrelated.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2020 16:23:14 GMT
LOL yeah right... If destroy as it is right now is so good, why does everyone hate the current ending...? You're simply dismissing the facts as fantasies because it is inconvenient for your preconceived opinions. But whatever floats your boat... The only fact is, you're making two different arguments at the same time. idk why your even talking about some stupid ending MOD as if that is relevant to anything. If you're seriously asking "why do people hate the ending" after 8 years of constantly explaining why, then you're either A, wholly obtuse and just not paying any attention. or B, willfully obtuse and making a bad faith argument to push an argument about some stupid mod and "disney" crap that is totally unrelated.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 8, 2020 16:30:18 GMT
MEHEM exists for a reason... So while we're at it, what would be your 'perfect' ending to the trilogy...? First, I'd start with one that isn't reaching, from the get go. Unshackled AI that designed and built the Reapers as the final solution to the organic vs synthetic problem, by creating synthetics to cull organics at regular intervals, is neither humane, nor smart and is a temporary solution. Even so, the organics that fought the Reapers came up with better solutions through the Crucible.
Secondly, why not just have the Crucible fire? Just fire and kill the Reapers. It's not exactly a Disney ending. The galaxy is in shambles, much of the Council's military force is wiped out, Thessia is destroyed, you've lost many friends and loved ones in the process and most of the galaxy is an inhospitable hellhole that will be unsuited for habitation for hundreds of years. Economy, trade and order is left on the brink of collapse, merc groups, like the Blue Suns and Bloodpack, will have a field day, the Leviathans can at a whim turn on their "allies" and start indoctrinating entire civilizations on their own and the terminus systems, if they so wish, can band together and rain hell on council space. Meanwhile, the opposition to the Systems Alliance can't ask for a better time to make a power grab. So all these paint a pretty grim picture already, without having the destruction of the Relays, but it presents a ripe time for turmoil, one that wouldn't allow for respite or retirement.
Lastly, considering all of the above, even if Shepard gets the ending with their respective LI, I'd doubt they'd get to enjoy it, under those circumstances. It's dark enough as it is. No need to fuck the setting harder. And yes, I know EC tells you everything is going to be OK, but that is in contrast to the events happening in the game itself, as they are described, even though we never get to see any of that. So that's my take, anyway.
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Post by Ascend on Dec 8, 2020 16:33:11 GMT
So... You don't want destroy as the ending...? Destroy is the Disney ending because it is the most obvious, shallow, primitive and short-sighted choice. Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. Wait, I'm confused. Are you calling the Destroy ending as it sorta canonically is a 'Disney' ending, or are you calling the non-canon fan mod that? Non-canon fan mod is definitely Disney. That's the ultimate happy ending at no cost. The canon Destroy ending is not necessarily Disney, because it was not a 'solve everything' ending. But at the same time, it can be considered Disney-ish, if you look at it from the perspective that whatever you wish would happen from the beginning, you get at the end... That is almost synonymous with no growth and lack of adaptation to new circumstances. There's another reason that I think it's a Disney ending. The idea that the reapers have a "higher" purpose is a good one. Unfortunately it was executed in the worst way possible. The destroy ending is basically like finding out in ME2 that Collectors are Prothean husks; It doesn't change anything. It resolves the mysterious overly powerful reaper threat with basically the push of a button through a deus ex machina, which ultimately results in a shaggy dog story. Ultimately it comes down to two fundamental principles... A - The reapers are simply pure evil and there's nothing more to it B - The reapers have justifiable intentions/reasons but have the wrong execution. Destroy enforces the first, the other endings enforce the second. Destroy makes the reapers as shallow as can be. I also don't understand why some of you are so triggered by calling it a Disney ending... The ending of The Dark Knight Rises is also a Disney ending, unlike the ending of The Dark Knight. You tell me which one is a better ending. If you're seriously asking "why do people hate the ending" after 8 years of constantly explaining why, then you're either A, wholly obtuse and just not paying any attention. or B, willfully obtuse and making a bad faith argument to push an argument about some stupid mod and "disney" crap that is totally unrelated. I was already accused of making baseless assumptions, so, the reason I asked was to make sure we are talking about the same thing. Believe it or not, people can still hate the ending for different reasons.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 8, 2020 16:58:19 GMT
ah yes, happy ending. I got my happy/good/whatever other word you want to use ending by destroying the reapers. It didn't matter if I had low ems or high ems. Seeing the reapers fall over destroyed is a good ending. They're no longer around to do the harvest crap anymore. My Shepard had no reason to do a swan dive into dumbness, pull handles to become the thing part 2. What about the geth? What about them? I had the quarians finish them off. I had no reason to allow the geth to upload the code. What proof did I have they wouldn't shoot at me after getting the code? And remember that it was because of reaper interference there was any chance for the geth to get the code. What about the platform? What about it?
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Post by kalreegar on Dec 8, 2020 17:13:13 GMT
So while we're at it, what would be your 'perfect' ending to the trilogy...? I was hoping for a kind of huge suicide mission, with the various species and allies instead of the crew members. 7-8 difficult choices one in a row with the other (involving both companions and species). Inevitable sacrifices and inevitable losses. With the last choice: save London from total destruction (renegade, pro human) or the citadel (the heart of galactic civilization, paragon).
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Post by Ascend on Dec 8, 2020 17:21:08 GMT
So while we're at it, what would be your 'perfect' ending to the trilogy...? I was hoping for a kind of huge suicide mission, with the various species and allies instead of the crew members. 7-8 difficult choices one in a row with the other (involving both companions and species). Inevitable sacrifices and inevitable losses. With the last choice: save London from total destruction (renegade, pro human) or the citadel (the heart of galactic civilization, paragon). So basically the ME2 ending on steroids. That would have indeed been awesome. ah yes, happy ending. I got my happy/good/whatever other word you want to use ending by destroying the reapers. It didn't matter if I had low ems or high ems. Seeing the reapers fall over destroyed is a good ending. They're no longer around to do the harvest crap anymore. My Shepard had no reason to do a swan dive into dumbness, pull handles to become the thing part 2. What about the geth? What about them? I had the quarians finish them off. I had no reason to allow the geth to upload the code. What proof did I have they wouldn't shoot at me after getting the code? And remember that it was because of reaper interference there was any chance for the geth to get the code. What about the platform? What about it? Well, from that perspective, it makes sense. My playthrough went very differently...
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Dec 8, 2020 19:43:51 GMT
My person belief is that one of two things occurred:
1: Bioware was told by EA to get it out to the public now! Thus the chop suey we got. OR 2: They planed one of the endings that are already on NEXUSMODS website. And either couldn't figure out how to implement it well enough or looking back at #1. One of the most interesting opinions I have heard about the ME3 ending, was that it was the ending that was not leaked. If you recall, the ME3 script was leaked onto the internet some time before release. From what I understand, before that, all the writers would discuss the draft scripts together. After the leak, the head writers basically went into a room by themselves, then came out later and declared "this is our new ending". Again, this was an opinion that was shared by someone not associated with BioWare in any way. It is an opinion/observation.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 8, 2020 20:26:25 GMT
ah yes, happy ending. I got my happy/good/whatever other word you want to use ending by destroying the reapers. It didn't matter if I had low ems or high ems. Seeing the reapers fall over destroyed is a good ending. They're no longer around to do the harvest crap anymore. My Shepard had no reason to do a swan dive into dumbness, pull handles to become the thing part 2. What about the geth? What about them? I had the quarians finish them off. I had no reason to allow the geth to upload the code. What proof did I have they wouldn't shoot at me after getting the code? And remember that it was because of reaper interference there was any chance for the geth to get the code. What about the platform? What about it? Now if only you could wipe out the asari in the Destroy ending... That'd be the icing on the cake. 👌
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Post by shermos on Dec 8, 2020 21:38:22 GMT
So... You don't want destroy as the ending...? Destroy is the Disney ending because it is the most obvious, shallow, primitive and short-sighted choice. Many people want a destroy button that kills the reapers immediately but also doesn't kill synthetics or EDI and additionally makes everything remain at peace forever, where Shepard lives and makes babies and no one dies. No sacrifice at all. It is a Disney ending. Yes, I do want destroy. The way Bioware did it. Fuck the Geth, and fuck EDI. I don't give a damn about them, and idk why anyone else does. The fact that people would rather have the stupid Geth back, rather than a real sequel just tells me the fanbase might not deserve one.
It's already been established that Destroy is a bittersweet ending even without EDI and the Geth being wiped out. The Extended Cut glosses over the extreme cost victory over the Reapers comes at. There's no good reason not to retcon the removal of one of the most interesting characters and an AI based on collective intelligence. One of Mass Effect's strengths is aliens which are more than just humans with some funny stuff on their foreheads.
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Post by ahglock on Dec 9, 2020 2:07:41 GMT
Yes, I do want destroy. The way Bioware did it. Fuck the Geth, and fuck EDI. I don't give a damn about them, and idk why anyone else does. The fact that people would rather have the stupid Geth back, rather than a real sequel just tells me the fanbase might not deserve one.
It's already been established that Destroy is a bittersweet ending even without EDI and the Geth being wiped out. The Extended Cut glosses over the extreme cost victory over the Reapers comes at. There's no good reason not to retcon the removal of one of the most interesting characters and an AI based on collective intelligence. One of Mass Effect's strengths is aliens which are more than just humans with some funny stuff on their foreheads.
nah screw those guys.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 9, 2020 2:41:42 GMT
It's already been established that Destroy is a bittersweet ending even without EDI and the Geth being wiped out. The Extended Cut glosses over the extreme cost victory over the Reapers comes at. There's no good reason not to retcon the removal of one of the most interesting characters and an AI based on collective intelligence. One of Mass Effect's strengths is aliens which are more than just humans with some funny stuff on their foreheads.
nah screw those guys. Well, Joker did bang Edi....😆
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 9, 2020 7:28:30 GMT
Yes, I do want destroy. The way Bioware did it. Fuck the Geth, and fuck EDI. I don't give a damn about them, and idk why anyone else does. The fact that people would rather have the stupid Geth back, rather than a real sequel just tells me the fanbase might not deserve one.
It's already been established that Destroy is a bittersweet ending even without EDI and the Geth being wiped out. The Extended Cut glosses over the extreme cost victory over the Reapers comes at. There's no good reason not to retcon the removal of one of the most interesting characters and an AI based on collective intelligence. One of Mass Effect's strengths is aliens which are more than just humans with some funny stuff on their foreheads.
It didn't gloss over the cost, The Geth and AI was part of the cost. ya'll need to just accept it and move on.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 9, 2020 10:29:44 GMT
It's already been established that Destroy is a bittersweet ending even without EDI and the Geth being wiped out. The Extended Cut glosses over the extreme cost victory over the Reapers comes at. There's no good reason not to retcon the removal of one of the most interesting characters and an AI based on collective intelligence. One of Mass Effect's strengths is aliens which are more than just humans with some funny stuff on their foreheads.
It didn't gloss over the cost, The Geth and AI was part of the cost. ya'll need to just accept it and move on. I see EDI as the only real victim of the Destroy ending, because the Crucible was clearly designed in that instance to fry anything with Reaper code/tech in it, which Cerberus used to rebuild the Hannibal AI into EDI.
The Geth are less victims, because they chose to "cheat" in ME3 by upgrading themselves with Reaper code to reach full sentience, despite this being antithetical to what Legion said they believed in in ME2. Perhaps if the Geth had not installed those upgrades, the beam would not have affected them at all because they would have had no Reaper code to fry.
The bittersweet nature of the Destroy Ending is why I consider it the "canon" ending, because it destroys the Reapers once and for all and stays true to Shepard's primary motivation for the entire trilogy. Controlling the Reapers has always been the Illusive Man's goal, while merging with them was Saren's... and neither of those options exactly worked out well for either of them. Why would Shepard not chose to destroy the Reapers, when they've shown themselves willing to wipe out organic and synthetic life?
Actually this would have been an interesting option to have... a Synthetic Ending where Shepard ended the Cycle by sacrificed all organic life in the Milky Way to destroy the Reapers (who are part organic), allowing synthetics like the Geth to become the dominant lifeform in the galaxy.
It'd be even more bittersweet, having the Geth narrate that they will honour the sacrifice made for them and hope that when organic life rises again and ventures to the stars, this time they'll be able to greet them as friends.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 9, 2020 10:31:25 GMT
This is, what? 7th or 8th time BioWare had died? Necromancy. Does this make us the Mourn Watch?
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 9, 2020 10:53:27 GMT
'Many people'. Uh-huh. Try 'a tiny minority'. As I said previously, at least try and argue the facts, not your fantasies. LOL yeah right... If destroy as it is right now is so good, why does everyone hate the current ending...? You're simply dismissing the facts as fantasies because it is inconvenient for your preconceived opinions. But whatever floats your boat... Why does everyone hate the current ending? Mainly because of the way we get there. Give us a well written ending that results in destroy or even synthesis and most people would be happy. But we got desperate, appallingly written drivel that made no sense in the context of the story we had just experienced. Have you been following this at all? And dismissing facts as fantasies because they don't meet my preconceptions? Stop projecting for all our sakes.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Dec 10, 2020 7:48:52 GMT
LOL yeah right... If destroy as it is right now is so good, why does everyone hate the current ending...? You're simply dismissing the facts as fantasies because it is inconvenient for your preconceived opinions. But whatever floats your boat... Why does everyone hate the current ending? Mainly because of the way we get there. Give us a well written ending that results in destroy or even synthesis and most people would be happy. But we got desperate, appallingly written drivel that made no sense in the context of the story we had just experienced. Have you been following this at all? And dismissing facts as fantasies because they don't meet my preconceptions? Stop projecting for all our sakes.Ok.
First things first: FACT: THERE IS NO PLEASING EVERYONE! ACCEPT IT OR DON'T
IT CAN'T BE CHANGED.
We got THREE -ONE ending and there is no changing it now. Unless this occurs -which are unlikely: Bioware relents and says yes fans your right we will redo the ending.
Like that? Well...
IT.
WIll.
NEVER happen since those who do like it now will be unhappy -no matter the few it be.
And those fans would most likely will do exactly what your doing with whatever would be released if Bioware did.
The "others" who like what they have "now" will complain and berate Bioware for caving to "fanatical zealot" ME fans.
It happened before and it would happen again. Ever wonder why we speak on this forum instead of Biowares'? Well Bioware doesn't have forum anymore -FOR THIS RANTING very reason.
The way fans went after each other and even the people from Bioware who managed the forums after the initial ME3 release-YIKES!
Death threats were even sent out -don't believe it then look it up - your too heated for me to want to do it for you. Bioware most likely wouldn't want to put themselves through it a again.
So you have got what you got. UNLESS you use a mod -there is more than just MEHEM that can be used to end it -you should know by now. Get over it or don't but STOP THE PREACHING. IT IS GETTING YOU NO WHERE! No one who has been here since the beginning CARES anymore! Now.... On to better things...
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 10, 2020 9:19:23 GMT
Why does everyone hate the current ending? Mainly because of the way we get there. Give us a well written ending that results in destroy or even synthesis and most people would be happy. But we got desperate, appallingly written drivel that made no sense in the context of the story we had just experienced. Have you been following this at all? And dismissing facts as fantasies because they don't meet my preconceptions? Stop projecting for all our sakes.Ok.
First things first: FACT: THERE IS NO PLEASING EVERYONE! ACCEPT IT OR DON'T
IT CAN'T BE CHANGED.
We got THREE -ONE ending and there is no changing it now. Unless this occurs -which are unlikely: Bioware relents and says yes fans your right we will redo the ending.
Like that? Well...
IT.
WIll.
NEVER happen since those who do like it now will be unhappy -no matter the few it be.
And those fans would most likely will do exactly what your doing with whatever would be released if Bioware did.
The "others" who like what they have "now" will complain and berate Bioware for caving to "fanatical zealot" ME fans.
It happened before and it would happen again. Ever wonder why we speak on this forum instead of Biowares'? Well Bioware doesn't have forum anymore -FOR THIS RANTING very reason.
The way fans went after each other and even the people from Bioware who managed the forums after the initial ME3 release-YIKES!
Death threats were even sent out -don't believe it then look it up - your too heated for me to want to do it for you. Bioware most likely wouldn't want to put themselves through it a again.
So you have got what you got. UNLESS you use a mod -there is more than just MEHEM that can be used to end it -you should know by now. Get over it or don't but STOP THE PREACHING. IT IS GETTING YOU NO WHERE! No one who has been here since the beginning CARES anymore! Now.... On to better things...
First, I didn't realise we were only allowed to discuss topics that you found valid. Perhaps you could post a list that we could adhere to and then you wouldn't face the upset of having to read posts on the single most divisive issue in Mass Effect. Would you prefer it we just had endless discussions on Miranda's arse or Ashley's 'racism'? Second, I only get involved with discussions such as this when I see the same false or frankly idiotic arguments trotted out. I'm correcting lies and I'm well aware the chances of a satisfactory ending actually being tacked on now are slim. Anyway, thanks for the gatekeeping. I'll be sure your feelings on anything I write are taken into account before I hit 'create post'.
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