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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 17:52:06 GMT
Not that I'd want Shepard back after that radioactive dumpster fire of an ending, but seriously, after Shepard got spaced, suffocated, smacked with a planet, and left exposed to subzero temperatures and toxic chemicals and they were still able to bring him back, death is only a mild inconvenience. They can just whip up some even more magical space magic to bring Shep back. Put an AI in his/her head to turn our commander into an ever superer super-soldier too! It wouldn't be hard to say after the reapers death with the tech they pull lifespans now are in the thousands of years. Synthesis is the natural evolution blah blah. And this is still assuming its 600 years in the future, which we really don't know. Virtually any time frame post reaper can be pulled from what they released. If enough people yell, woo Shepard again, odds are they will put Shepard in at least in some capacity. 600-700 years is a pretty reasonable estimate assuming the rumors are true that they will be linking this to Andromeda. And Liara would still be kicking around as a matriarch. And I have no doubt they will work Synthesis into things somehow. They even put it into MEA with merging SAM into Ryder's brain to make him/her an absolute bad*ss super-soldier and savior of the galaxy as a result. I don't think Shepard will be around in-person. Bioware has simply made Shepard too toxic a character to handle thanks to their handling of the trilogy. and its ending. Unless they are willing to retcon , I simply don't see Shepard making an appearance save perhaps as a memorial statue or as a joke VI like in ME3.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 13, 2020 17:53:30 GMT
You're not seriously suggesting that Liara is over a thousand years old, are you?! Have you looked at pictures of Benezia lately?? I just did. And she had wrinkles and looked about 50. Liara looks nowhere near as old. So I have no idea why you keep insisting that Liara is old except for the Andromeda crossover that would need 600 years to pass. Benezia has some dimples near her mouth and some saggy eyes. I don't see no crows feet, or any wrinkles in her cheeks. Aethyta and Samara, each of them around a thousand years old, also look nothing like that. So her apparent age would put Liara at around a thousand years old or more.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 18:06:06 GMT
I'm genuinely shocked people STILL expect to play as Shepard. His/hers story is over.
Ryder's story, however isn't. Andromeda simply ended with immediate threat defeated, with a lot of open questions left. So yeah, ditching Ryder now would make disappointment justified.
Hmmm someone is grasping at air here. Destroy ending is canonized (stating the obvious: dead reapers everywhere) and in case anyone's minds have grown foggy or just being obtuse (which it seems) the destroy ending cutscene included very clearly Shepard breathing life back into him. You nor anyone here can claim that Shepard's story is over. Liara's wrinkles don't cut it. As I said earlier, no one can prove asari don't get wrinkles for being alive past 100 years. Makes sense to me wrinkles would appear regardless of a species lifespan after 100 years. Also, this is the most artistically detailed teaser in ME history. Wrinkles can just be artistic detail and nothing more. Also, this forum is tiny, and overall pro-Andromeda. It's cute. It really is. But outside of this forum, general fans are largely anticipating the return of Shepard. Check the comments of the ME5 trailer for starters. And they have many reasons not only to want Shepard back, but expect it. Nobody wants a new protagonist like how it is annoyingly in DA. And outside of this forum, most people despised Andromeda so Ryder would be baaaad marketing. Shepard is not clearly shown being alive even in highest-EMS Destroy. There is no face, just a torso. Nor is it ever established that, assuming that WAS Shepard, he or she survived the ordeal and was rescued (remember, Shepard was in a previously unknown part of the Citadel. Bioware could have expanded on this with EC, but CHOSE not to ("artistic integrity") Liara was over 100 years old even in ME1, and is considered "barely more than a child" Her having wrinkles at that age would be like an early or mid-20s human getting wrinkles and grey hair. Sure it can happen, but it's not exactly common. Heck, assuming this is set only a few years after ME3 I''d say it could happen to Liara, given a hard few years.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 18:14:42 GMT
Something that i really like from the trailer is how it gives us something epic and hopeful. It's like both tones from the ot and andromeda merge together. I’ll take your word for it. I didn’t feel either of those things in the trailer. My feeling was more of a "Now what?" sense.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 13, 2020 18:20:32 GMT
Benezia has some dimples near her mouth and some saggy eyes. I don't see no crows feet, or any wrinkles in her cheeks. Aethyta and Samara, each of them around a thousand years old, also look nothing like that. So her apparent age would put Liara at around a thousand years old or more. That just goes to show that there is no consistency in depicting asari age. Benezia doesn't look like a spring chicken anymore. She looks way older than any other asari in the game. Maybe being evil does that to your skin, lol.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 13, 2020 18:22:21 GMT
All of these discussions about the direction the next game will take are pretty pointless really. I'd prefer a direct sequel to ME3, rebuilding the galaxy and helping it recover after the devastation of the Reaper War. Doesn't look like I'm going to get it and were going to get a time jump (much like the Star Wars sequels, missing out all the interesting stuff). However, if it's well written I'll take. If it's another 'Mac Walters tour de force', regardless of setting, I'll run a mile.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 13, 2020 18:28:44 GMT
Benezia doesn't look like a spring chicken anymore. She looks way older than any other asari in the game. Maybe being evil does that to your skin, lol. Could be the struggles of indoctrination, true and maybe her aging appearance is hereditary, passed on to Liara, but that would still put Liara, at around Benezia's age, which is around one thousand years old. So we could be as early as, I don't know, the 3100s? Just over 800 years, after the events of ME3. Even Ryder is dead at that point, or very, very, very old. The Ryder twins would have to be near 200 years old to be alive. Well, more than that, technically, but if you remove the 600 years of cryo, you'd be left with 200. Even at the early 3000s, Ryder would be at the 100 year old range. I don't see a point to have Ryder return at that age. I don't see it satisfying anyone.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 18:29:48 GMT
A few things to consider - While it is possible to have the Reapers up and leave back to dark space, why leave the carcasses of their fallen brothers? Why not take them back along and repair them? - Liara is not wearing any armor, just a cloak to shield herself from the elements, meaning her warrior days are over. She also looks significantly more aged. - This must be taking place at least a thousand years after ME3, unless Liara's apparent age is greatly exaggerated, for an asari. Meaning even Ryder and Co. in Andromeda would be long dead, except Peebee. - We do know that we will see Ryder, but it's probably going to be in Andromeda message broadcasts, that take that extra time to reach back to the Milky Way. - This way of handling Andromeda is going to be entirely unsatisfying to Andromeda fans, about as satisfying for fans of returning ME2 cast in ME3. If this is how Bioware intends to give you closure, don't expect to actually find it. To address some of these: 1. Reapers have left their fallen comrades before. The Reaper corpse in ME2 was there for 37 million years, and the "Leviathan of Dis" was there for a billion years. 2. I think it's just better graphics. Asari only have a lifespan of 1,000 years so she can't be older than that. Also side note hope her not in protective gear is just for the trailer otherwise eww they're still ignoring the lore. 3. The Andromeda Initiative has QED communications with the Milky Way, so messages would be instantaneous. The only problem so far is that nobody on the Milky Way side has answered yet. 4. Most likely it will be disappointing. Every recent decision Bioware has made with the upcoming games so far has been. 1 While I'm inclined to agree it's meant to demonstrate that it's after the Reaper War, they had already demonstrated it in other ways (voices from the war, debris around the Citadel, which is still in "flower configuration") So I think the presence of the dead Reaper is meant to be more than a reminder. The audience is already well aware of the timeline. 2 A thousand years may be pushing it. 600-700 years seems more reasonable. Liara is visibly older, but not ancient-looking. As for the lack of protective gear, remember in ME2 she attacked the Shadow Broker's ship in a toxic atmosphere dressed in a business suit and wearing an allergen mask Same with fighting in the Reaper War. I think asari must be immune to the elements. 3 I gotta wonder when QED devices got so cost-effective they could mass produce them and stick them into every device, including human brains. 4 Yeah, probably.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 18:33:09 GMT
One of those two was reduced to scrap metal and only TIM knew what it was, because he was actively looking for Reapers. As far as everything else goes, there was no trace of the reapers, other than those two in all the cycles. And now you have two, right next to each other, on a single planet and they're not even in that bad a shape. None of the near one thousand year old asari that we see (Aethyta, Benezia, Samara) come close to looking as old as Liara does in the teaser. Even considering better graphics, Chakwas looked wrinkled in the trilogy. Why couldn't Samara? Liara looks far older than any thousand year old asari we've seen. And it looks intentional. Or exaggerated. That's what I thought at first, too. But Liara's apparent age puts her way above any timeframe where Ryder would still be alive. At best, it's near 900 years after ME3. Ryder would be at least 50 years dead or so damn old, he'd be senile. Unless Liara's aging is exaggerated, she doesn't fit in a timeline where Ryder is young and hearty. Exactly. Because it's after a war that killed more of them than usual. ioware didn't handle ages well in the Shepard Trilogy. Some characters looked far younger than they were, and others far older like Hackett. With a decade of better graphics and a new engine, don't expect rules of appearance to apply. Though I will say she didn't look that old to me in the trailer. Older yes, but not old. Indeed. Compare some some DA characters looks change between games. Heck you didn't even need an engine change for some of them!
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 13, 2020 18:36:40 GMT
Could be the struggles of indoctrination, true and maybe her aging appearance is hereditary, passed on to Liara, but that would still put Liara, at around Benezia's age, which is around one thousand years old. If you're still trying to argue that Benezia and Liara look the same age now you need glasses, buddy. (Or maybe *I* need to stop arguing with you, dear resident troll. *wrinkled wink*)
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Post by Entropy on Dec 13, 2020 18:37:26 GMT
I'm late to the party but... I will be happy to go back to the Milky Way but my Shepard's story is already over, so I hope we only heard about them I hope they don't completely ditch Andromeda Also everybody is talking about the reaper in the background but anyone else noticed that Liara is climbing one? is it just me? to be fair...I was mostly curious about the climbing person and missed the reaper (both of them) completely ...and here I thought I was detail oriented I missed both the first time, too focused on the person climbing too
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 13, 2020 18:42:59 GMT
I’ll take your word for it. I didn’t feel either of those things in the trailer. My feeling was more of a "Now what?" sense. Cant even say I had that. I felt nothing during the trailer.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 13, 2020 18:44:54 GMT
The problem with 600yrs tie passing is that you'd expect the technology difference between the MW and Andromeda to be huge. Not really, technological stagnation is a thing in Mass Effect.
Humans managed to catch up quickly( in about 40 years) with other Citadel civilizations and then hit the wall like the rest.
Only real technological advancement was done by re-purposing Leviathan/Reaper tech in Milky Way and Jardaan tech in Andromeda( even to Kett, Jardaan look more advanced technologically). So there seem to be a wall of technological stagnation every galactic civilization hits in ME universe, while any further advancement will take a lot longer time in thousands of years if not millions of years.
I always chalked up the stagnation to the presence of Citadel relays and Prothean tech. All part of the "trap" of the Reapers. The various civilizations have no need to continue advancing on their own when there's all this advanced tech lying around to play with.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 13, 2020 18:48:01 GMT
If you're still trying to argue that Benezia and Liara look the same age now you need glasses, buddy. (Or maybe *I* need to stop arguing with you, dear resident troll. *wrinkled wink*) Honest. I'm looking at Benezia's picture and Liara in the trailer. While Liara is more "baby faced", I'd say she looks older. Might just be me.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 13, 2020 18:49:37 GMT
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 13, 2020 18:51:06 GMT
Cant even say I had that. I felt nothing during the trailer. Yeah. Same here. At least, if it was Ryder, I'd get it. Like, I'd understand it. I wouldn't like it, but I'd get it. With this approach? I don't. This seems like Bioware trying to sidestep two problems, at the same time, instead of just one. At least Andromeda only had ME3 to sidestep. Now, this title, they want to sidestep both ME3 and MEA. The next title will need to sidestep ME3, MEA and ME5, I reckon. Maybe they'd be better off with a new franchise. Just maybe.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 13, 2020 18:51:34 GMT
I can be wrong, that's just how I see it.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 13, 2020 19:24:51 GMT
Benezia doesn't look like a spring chicken anymore. She looks way older than any other asari in the game. Maybe being evil does that to your skin, lol. Could be the struggles of indoctrination, true and maybe her aging appearance is hereditary, passed on to Liara, but that would still put Liara, at around Benezia's age, which is around one thousand years old. So we could be as early as, I don't know, the 3100s? Just over 800 years, after the events of ME3. Even Ryder is dead at that point, or very, very, very old. The Ryder twins would have to be near 200 years old to be alive. Well, more than that, technically, but if you remove the 600 years of cryo, you'd be left with 200. Even at the early 3000s, Ryder would be at the 100 year old range. I don't see a point to have Ryder return at that age. I don't see it satisfying anyone. I would say she's at the age of 700-730 years old given that the trip for ai took 600 years to reach andromeda. Ryder's won't be dead, they are gonna be the same age they are in andromeda. This trailer i think hints at that, that's why liara is older. The only thing that confuses me most on the trailer is the piece of n7 helmet. Now that doesn't mean that shepard is gonna come back, i think it might be a nod to ot fans, to expect something from that or maybe nothing. It could be placed there and it shows liara being reminiscent and hopeful for something. I was wondering if it's gonna have time travel, and it was intentional to put liara and the plate there(liara will play a role though) or something like a tribute to shepard. The troll move would be if there's a remake. Anyways, I don't wanna look into it too much.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 13, 2020 19:34:44 GMT
I was thinking about Michael Gamble saying that blade runner 2049 was a big inspiration for him. One thing i noticed is the snowy place. Blade runner had some abandoned buildings covered in sand, and here it has reapers covered in snow, so that could be something he got inspired of (probably among other stuff). Also the movie had some dystopian places and the trailer gave me that exact feeling. Mw seems like a dying place, they can't communicate with ai and ai can't communicate with them. There's definitely something going here if theres hundreds of years in the future(same timeline as Andromeda).
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 13, 2020 19:35:31 GMT
Could be the struggles of indoctrination, true and maybe her aging appearance is hereditary, passed on to Liara, but that would still put Liara, at around Benezia's age, which is around one thousand years old. So we could be as early as, I don't know, the 3100s? Just over 800 years, after the events of ME3. Even Ryder is dead at that point, or very, very, very old. The Ryder twins would have to be near 200 years old to be alive. Well, more than that, technically, but if you remove the 600 years of cryo, you'd be left with 200. Even at the early 3000s, Ryder would be at the 100 year old range. I don't see a point to have Ryder return at that age. I don't see it satisfying anyone. I would say she's at the age of 700-730 years old given that the trip for ai took 600 years to reach andromeda. Ryder's won't be dead, they are gonna be the same age they are in andromeda. This trailer i think hints at that, that's why liara is older. The only thing that confuses me most on the trailer is the piece of n7 helmet. Now that doesn't mean that shepard is gonna come back, i think it might be a nod to ot fans, to expect something from that or maybe nothing. It could be placed there and it shows liara being reminiscent and hopeful for something. I was wondering if it's gonna have time travel, and it was intentional to put liara and the plate there(liara will play a role though) or something like a tribute to shepard. The troll move would be if there's a remake. Anyways, I don't wanna look into it too much. Maybe Liara's only a few years older and the team tasked with the trailer don't understand asari lifespans? I'm not joking. Remember, they gave Peebee eyebrows because they didn't realise asari didn't have them then tried to explain it away as an inherited trait from her human father. Having a team create a trailer with no knowledge of the product they're trailing seems eminently possible with current BioWare.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 13, 2020 19:38:08 GMT
I would say she's at the age of 700-730 years old given that the trip for ai took 600 years to reach andromeda. Ryder's won't be dead, they are gonna be the same age they are in andromeda. This trailer i think hints at that, that's why liara is older. The only thing that confuses me most on the trailer is the piece of n7 helmet. Now that doesn't mean that shepard is gonna come back, i think it might be a nod to ot fans, to expect something from that or maybe nothing. It could be placed there and it shows liara being reminiscent and hopeful for something. I was wondering if it's gonna have time travel, and it was intentional to put liara and the plate there(liara will play a role though) or something like a tribute to shepard. The troll move would be if there's a remake. Anyways, I don't wanna look into it too much. Maybe Liara's only a few years older and the team tasked with the trailer don't understand asari lifespans? I'm not joking. Remember, they gave Peebee eyebrows because they didn't realise asari didn't have them then tried to explain it away as an inherited trait from her human father. Having a team create a trailer with no knowledge of the product they're trailing seems eminently possible with current BioWare. Oh yeah, i remember that it was weird. Maybe it could be that but it would be stupid imo.
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Post by bshep on Dec 13, 2020 19:48:12 GMT
I would say she's at the age of 700-730 years old given that the trip for ai took 600 years to reach andromeda. Ryder's won't be dead, they are gonna be the same age they are in andromeda. This trailer i think hints at that, that's why liara is older. The only thing that confuses me most on the trailer is the piece of n7 helmet. Now that doesn't mean that shepard is gonna come back, i think it might be a nod to ot fans, to expect something from that or maybe nothing. It could be placed there and it shows liara being reminiscent and hopeful for something. I was wondering if it's gonna have time travel, and it was intentional to put liara and the plate there(liara will play a role though) or something like a tribute to shepard. The troll move would be if there's a remake. Anyways, I don't wanna look into it too much. I don't think anyone is going to build a time machine here, not really necessary with Asari lifespan if they are really looking to connect the two galaxies.
And i agree that the N7 symbol may be them paying a homage to Shepard by having Liara remembering the old times after finding some random piece of N7 armor.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
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Post by trengilly on Dec 13, 2020 19:53:31 GMT
Cant even say I had that. I felt nothing during the trailer. Yeah. Same here. At least, if it was Ryder, I'd get it. Like, I'd understand it. I wouldn't like it, but I'd get it. With this approach? I don't. This seems like Bioware trying to sidestep two problems, at the same time, instead of just one. At least Andromeda only had ME3 to sidestep. Now, this title, they want to sidestep both ME3 and MEA. The next title will need to sidestep ME3, MEA and ME5, I reckon. Maybe they'd be better off with a new franchise. Just maybe. I actually agree. Bioware really needed to do a hard reboot of Mass Effect for Andromeda. There should have been only a single Ark with ONLY humans going to Andromeda. All the legacy Milky Way alien races were totally superfluous taken out context and completely detracted from the new story. We needed an adventure of exploration, discovering 10+ new alien species, and making a home for humanity in the new galaxy. Oh what could have been . . . but whatever. Yeah now Bioware is tasked with trying to reconcile two different stories . . . both very flawed in their own ways . . . and somehow come up with a whole that most existing fans will like and that will attract new fans. I guess its not impossible but good luck to them!
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Post by themikefest on Dec 13, 2020 19:58:50 GMT
Hey Gamble, you have tweeted I think you should wait and see and intentional. Back in 2015 you tweeted this
Was that intentional? I ask because looking at the teaser, the next ME game, ME4?, destroy is the ending. What changed? Did your masters tell you and other co-workers they wanted another ME game taking place in the Milky Way? Did they want you and others choose a canon ending? Could that be the reason Hudson left? Anyways. You tweeted something that no longer is true. So what reason would I have to believe anything you tweet is true now? One of the reasons why I've posted the tweet above, after seeing t'soni in the teaser, was that she can die in ME3. I assume you know that. In fact she can die and the galaxy rebuilds. Just have to have your ems between 1750-2000. I'm curious what other choices you threw under the bus. I have no problem since the only choices that have remained constant in all my playthroughs is having the council die and choosing red. You also tweeted this Is that still true? Most likely there will be an ME keep for players to use. I know there's currently the archives, but it needs to be updated. So before playing the next ME game, will the player have to go to the archives to choose whatever choices like what the player did for DAI? When seeing t'soni, I thought why? It's similar to when the trailer came out for the Citadel dlc. A thread was created for the trailer. Someone mentioned why is she getting the most attention in it. Chris Priestly asked why the poster had a problem with that. A few people responded to his post. A poster responded by saying the asari is a popular character, so it would make sense to have her in it so much to attract the most fans. So could that be the same reason why she is in the teaser? I don't care about the asari. The trilogy has given me no reason to like her. She has content that doesn't make sense for her to have. Fortunately I can do a playthrough where my Shepard has to deal with her as little as possible. When she grabs the N7 logo, and then smiled, my thought is here we go again. Is she going to take the armor and put it on display beside Shepard's armor? It has her walking up a reapers leg. I would rather have Shepard standing on the reaper, with a smirk like at the end of ME1, after the reapers are destroyed. Is it possible this trailer was done just to let fans know that there will be more ME games in the future? Here's a post explaining why some don't care too much about the asari. I agree with it. I've read posts saying the game would take place 600 years or later after ME3. I'm not a fan of that since I would like to see the galaxy rebuilding while dealing with whatever problems they encounter and possible conflicts that might arise. What role would t'soni have? Advisor? Why would my main character believe anything she would say? My Shepard never trusted her, why should the new main character? On Thessia, Javik proved she is not the expert she thinks she is. I've read post saying she could be playable. I wouldn't want that. since I wouldn't be able to customize her looks. The teaser shows a relay with the rings. With high ems, the rings are the only part that is damaged. Of course the relay the ships fly by is severely damaged, but I believe that to be an oversight. When t'soni is first shown walking up the leg of the reaper, there is something sticking out from her head/hood? Could that be a sensor to use to locate whatever? With the N7 part, that isn't Shepard's. She/he was on the Citadel when the red wave was released destroying the reapers. Plus his/her armor was missing after being shot by Harbinger. If anything, his/her armor would be in London. Some are saying that Andromeda and Milky Way will some how be connected via a mass relay. I know there's an image showing a relay, so it will be interesting how that will happen. With DA4 coming out in 2022, possibly 2023, I would guess ME4 won't be released until 2025-26
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 13, 2020 20:20:53 GMT
Finally i figured out what the other voices where saying. Here's all the dialogues from start to end.
We now know that in the early years of the 20th century, this world was being watched.
Roger, copy. Eagle Houston you're a go for landing over?
Arcturus station, unknown vessel approaching. We need first contact protocols.
Did anyone else stands as partners of this galaxy?
Ark 6 is away. Godspeed
What's that device for that?
Engines are going crazy/They are not going down so easily, abandon ship!
Does anyone receiving us? We've lost contact.
You're not leaving us all behind!/ Stay.
Is that there all there is?/ Zoom zoom or i hear something like zong zong, don't know. Aliens speaking, or something else?
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