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Post by biggydx on Dec 16, 2020 20:23:33 GMT
Pretty straightforward question. There's been a lot of debating around the question of whether or not the next game should feature a new protagonist, so I figured I'd might as well start taking numbers. Forgive me if there aren't as many options as you like. I left an other option in case people weren't satisfied, though I hope you'd be willing to elaborate on your "other" opinion. Also, please note that I'm only referring to companions that would only be canonically present AFTER the events of ME3 (so no Mordin). I'm not specifying a time period since we don't know how far into the future the next game takes.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Dec 16, 2020 21:31:52 GMT
Personally i would rather not have shepard nor his/her companions. He/she had development for 3 games. Liara might return along with the other companions that still might live. Ryder and crew had only one so i would really like if they can have them instead of a new pc...
I'm not counting shepard out in the nme but don't know how they'll implement it in the story, timetravel or only show up as a memory? Also i think there will be a big problem in character development and screentime here. People will not be happy if we have both of them cause they'll want only one.
I'm not taking anything at face value based from what they showed us, but I don't ignore anything either. Either what they showed us will be in the game, some of it, or none. I'm gonna go with a reconnection between galaxies, and that could possibly be the theme of the game. To reconnect, to help each other. Unicephalon said something interesting about the n7 helmet piece. It shows us that mass effect isn't dead, and they put it out from the ice. That's one way. There could be more ways, shepard might return to some extent, might not, we might have ryder or not, have both or not, or have a new pc. We'll see when we have more information.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 16, 2020 21:32:17 GMT
What about no Shepard but some of the companions return? After hanging around the forums this seems like a popular choice, maybe the most popular actually.
And since when was Shepard a 'he'?
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 16, 2020 22:30:04 GMT
What about no Shepard but some of the companions return? After hanging around the forums this seems like a popular choice, maybe the most popular actually. And since when was Shepard a 'he'? Not to mention that it's the best fit with the trailer. If Liara's old, Shepard's dead, barring contrivance.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Dec 16, 2020 23:28:28 GMT
I voted No returning Shepard or companions. I feel three games was enough for Shepard and squad, let them rest in peace.
I would prefer a new crew. Let me get invested in new characters.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 16, 2020 23:32:02 GMT
No for Shepard or old crew. Shep is chilling with his/her LI on a disclosed location, keeping Liara as far away from them as possible.
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 16, 2020 23:41:13 GMT
What about no Shepard but some of the companions return? After hanging around the forums this seems like a popular choice, maybe the most popular actually. And since when was Shepard a 'he'? Not to mention that it's the best fit with the trailer. If Liara's old, Shepard's dead, barring contrivance. Barring contrivance? In ME? Good luck with that.
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Post by shaqfu on Dec 16, 2020 23:54:28 GMT
I'd much rather be a brand new character and get to see brand new companions. Also I would want to be somebody with no ties or links to the Alliance this time around
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Post by ahglock on Dec 17, 2020 0:11:40 GMT
Depends on the story they decide to tell. If he fits sure, if not no. I think he should probably be back in some capacity due to how the trailer is being perceived. But probably not as the protagonist.
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Post by shermos on Dec 17, 2020 0:43:06 GMT
I think the next game should take place decades or even centuries after the Reaper War. Shepard's story is told in my opinion, so I don't think he should return, at least not as the playable character. Companions returning is fine (but not essential) with me - especially the longer lived ones like Liara and Wrex/Grunt. I would be planning the next game to be a little bit like Star Trek: The Next Generation to the Trilogy's original series. Cameo appearances are fine, but shouldn't be overdone.
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 17, 2020 0:44:56 GMT
Not to mention that it's the best fit with the trailer. If Liara's old, Shepard's dead, barring contrivance. Barring contrivance? In ME? Good luck with that. Yeah, I was going for they shouldn't rather than they can't. FWIW, a post-canonized-Destroy sequel set centuries in the future, with Liara returning as a living link to what's now ancient history, is something I proposed on the old boards even before the EC shipped. Do I get to say I was right all along if ME5 turns out to be that?
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Post by Polka Dot on Dec 17, 2020 1:40:56 GMT
Barring contrivance? In ME? Good luck with that. Yeah, I was going for they shouldn't rather than they can't. FWIW, a post-canonized-Destroy sequel set centuries in the future, with Liara returning as a living link to what's now ancient history, is something I proposed on the old boards even before the EC shipped. Do I get to say I was right all along if ME5 turns out to be that? Uh... I guess - although they did take a stab at Andromeda first. I'm still not too sure that's what they're planning, though. Of course, it could just be denial on my part, cuz it's not what I want.
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Post by vonuber on Dec 17, 2020 1:51:03 GMT
I'd much rather be a brand new character and get to see brand new companions. Also I would want to be somebody with no ties or links to the Alliance this time around Soo.. like they tried with Andromeda?
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Post by DextroDNA on Dec 17, 2020 2:27:36 GMT
No, and I'm 100% sure neither Shepard nor any of the original crew (bar Liara obviously and maybe Wrex+Grunt) will return.
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Post by clips7 on Dec 17, 2020 3:22:30 GMT
I'd like Shep back with a few companions.....for me they already tried a new crew in Andromeda and they just was not written very well.....all of those characters was trying to be shallow generic creations of the characters of the original trilogy.....ultimately for me regardless if i want Shep back or not, the writing, narrative/story and character creation needs to be solid and the team that wrote Andromeda just didn't implement a compelling and interesting story....
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Post by redeem on Dec 17, 2020 3:45:12 GMT
Shepard back with a few companions (mainly the most iconic ones). That would be my choice personally. Give me back Tali, Garrus, Liara, Jack/Miranda and I would be content.
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Post by shaqfu on Dec 17, 2020 3:47:52 GMT
I'd much rather be a brand new character and get to see brand new companions. Also I would want to be somebody with no ties or links to the Alliance this time around Soo.. like they tried with Andromeda? Sure, new characters and new directions are not inherently a bad thing. One can hope that they learned from the mistakes of Andromeda and move forward.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 17, 2020 4:17:46 GMT
Soo.. like they tried with Andromeda? Sure, new characters and new directions are not inherently a bad thing. One can hope that they learned from the mistakes of Andromeda and move forward. Right now I don't think they have learned from those mistakes. To me if they are going back to The Milky Way and ignoring Andromeda they are doing the exact same thing they did with Andromeda by just abandoning what they had done before and attempting to reboot it, but this time around they didn't even attempt to give closure to those that weren't negative about Andromeda.
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Post by jpcab on Dec 17, 2020 4:34:14 GMT
Andromeda is over. Characters were not appelative to the majority of players. Its over.
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Post by Primitive God on Dec 17, 2020 5:34:04 GMT
Please. If Shepard returned everyone would cream themselves.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 17, 2020 7:16:26 GMT
Andromeda is over. Characters were not appelative to the majority of players. Its over. Do you have access to a good sample survey that the majority of players agreed to and not just the people that post online? Otherwise you don't know that because only a fragment of the people that deal with games post anything online.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 17, 2020 7:33:05 GMT
At this point, I’d rather Liara just be in her matriarch stage, so everyone else is dead. It neatly tidies up all the bother with having to get all this obvious old-character callback dialogue. Frankly, having the old roster be front and center is a dead end. Part of the fun of getting games like this, especially one that isn’t really a chapter in an overarching narrative, is getting to know a new cast of characters, having a new backstory, new personality, new look, etc.. What the heck am I supposed to get out of Shepard, Garrus and Tali that I haven’t already? If I romanced Liara, am I just going to go through the same motions with everyone just settled into their lot in life before the conflict even begins? I have no interest in that shit.
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Post by helios969 on Dec 17, 2020 8:14:18 GMT
One. More. Story.
Ha, just kidding...really depends on what or how they'd do it. Generally I think a canonized post-destroy MW a few years after provides a good setting to play with story-wise...but that's just me.
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Post by vonuber on Dec 17, 2020 9:06:00 GMT
The only issue I can see with my Shep coming back would be the inevitable dialogue she'd have with Liara, after 3 games of romance and development, where Liara goes: "Sooooooo... just friends?"
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 17, 2020 10:50:07 GMT
Of course, it could just be denial on my part, cuz it's not what I want. I'm trying to understand what Bioware is thinking with this game. Obviously the demand for Shepard is the strongest of all out there, even if not in here. Just look at all the outlets going nuts over Shepard coming back. Barring that, there is ... some demand for Ryder, which is OK, I don't have to buy the game, if I don't want it. But at least someone does. I don't know how well that will go, but Bioware can knock themselves out, at it. So we've already got a fanbase that is splintered, or divided, or fragmented, call it what you will. So introducing a third protagonist would fix none of the pre-existing problems, I know I won't be buying their game, and helps further splinter the fanbase, as a potential 3rd dropped protagonist will create their own division in their fanbase. At which point, we can keep pilling up protagonists, till the interest in the franchise completely dissolves, even considering this game, if it even makes the current console gen, as a live service game, will definitely be the ONLY Mass Effect we are getting, till 2030 at the earliest. And if what I hear is true, ~2030 will probably be DA5's time. We might be getting another new IP, or at least a non DA/ME title after ME5. I don't know how many will be interested in playing a live service ME, which ME5 will be, with new characters, old ones appearing as info dumps and quest givers, a la Destiny/Anthem etc. with little to zero interaction outside of questlines, which will vastly undermine their re-appearances to the point of less than a ME2's character cameo appearance in ME3. Nobody's going to care for that, nobody's going to be satisfied with that. But at least Liara is back.
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