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Post by Hrulj on Feb 5, 2021 2:46:40 GMT
Of course not. They'd add new stuff in line with new characters, however they can't change them completely. And Liara change was unliked by me, but I believe it stabilized. Either way, a template being followed with changes is still less changes and less chance for complete failure and cringe compared to letting them build something from ground up. In your heart of hearts do you think they'll make a main character that will shoot his friend and companion with a shotgun a dozen times because they refuse to be sterilized? Disagree. With new characters there's no old character to hold them up to. Therefore less of a chance of failure. Look at how many hated the original trilogy characters in the sequel trilogy of Star Wars. I never play a main character like that, so them not wasting resources on bullshit like that would be more than welcome to me. Oh absolutely, because new old characters in Star Wars have about as much similarity to each other as Hitler does to Churchill. And that's a risk we run. But in a world where we have greater risk of new characters being made under iron fist of sjw writters currently in Bioware and old ones being edited and potentially badly I'll take the old ones. Good on you. And you should be able to play that way. I just want alternative to Cuck Ryder. Except that Bioware can't be trusted to make new characters and make them decent. They have showcased that over and over again. The climate in the company has changed drastically and time of actual mean options or nuance is gone. There is no grey area and never will be again. And the current writing cast has to satisfy their own self inserts and inside jokes before they ever consider what audience wants. As such I'd rather have Bioware shackled to old characters that they have to follow the behavior of than come up with new ones, like Ryder and fail utterly. And with all the fails they suffered so far one more could leave them in a ditch in a typical EA fashion Then isn’t this all pointless? If they can’t write new ones, they can’t serve the old ones either. It doesn’t matter if there’s a template to follow, because they still have to write new content for them to interact with, which, presumably, will suck anyway. Like, who cares if Shepard’s personality is largely the same when their dialogue sucks? It might suck, similar to above example of old Star Wars characters in new Star Wars. Again, I'll take smaller risk
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 5, 2021 10:22:56 GMT
we have greater risk of new characters being made under iron fist of sjw writters Not even that. The writers of these characters ... if the dialogues they write are representative of themselves, I have severe reservations as to their actual mental health. Their characters come off as sociopaths, lacking basic empathy skills and cognitive skills. I don't recall how many times, in the thirty hours of DA:I that I forced myself through, I had to hear about Varric's or Solas' social commentary, in conversations that came off like an exchange over twitter. This is a video game. You don't have the word constraints of twitter. I am sure you can hire a VA that does a better rate at 120 characters and games are already 80 GB in size, you can squeeze in a few more words. I would really, really, really appreciate it if all these people got off twitter. Think of it as rehabilitation.
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Post by Radec on Feb 5, 2021 12:24:12 GMT
Good on you. I do. And Andromeda's failure has shown the others do too There should be a healthier in-between. I mean, I'm sure we can fit at least one between immature joker and genocidal maniac. I want immature joker who is also a genocidal maniac.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 5, 2021 13:15:46 GMT
I want immature joker who is also a genocidal maniac. And for you, there's Final Fantasy VI. But that's the villain.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Feb 5, 2021 14:00:09 GMT
Sirpetrakus....I really like your Avatar. There's something special about it (to think that Jack and Miranda could actually become friends, and that avatar shows them as two good friends having a laugh) but there's also something kinda sexy about it.....so it's just pretty cool because Jack is my favourite character in the franchise. Did you create it yourself?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 5, 2021 14:47:33 GMT
Sirpetrakus....I really like your Avatar. There's something special about it (to think that Jack and Miranda could actually become friends, and that avatar shows them as two good friends having a laugh) but there's also something kinda sexy about it.....so it's just pretty cool because Jack is my favourite character in the franchise. Did you create it yourself? No, I did not. It is part of a larger picture, which also features femShep and Vega, as I found out. The artist has a deviant art page and ... it's either Joe Black (I think) or Huggybear (I think).
Yes, I do think Jack and Miri could be friends, really good friends. And the fact that we never got that arc, to us that loved these characters, makes their stories feel incomplete, as it seemed to be hinted at in ME2, similarly to Tali and Legion, as both characters respectively grew in ways to allow them to outgrow their differences. I also think that Jack could prove as a very good buffer in helping Miranda grow her relationship with her sister. And, you know, allusions of a sexual nature are not strictly prohibited either.
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Post by Radec on Feb 5, 2021 14:48:14 GMT
I want immature joker who is also a genocidal maniac. And for you, there's Final Fantasy VI. But that's the villain. Kek. Kefka, the legend. I wanna play Bully Maguire in an ME game Raimi knows how you write a quippy character. I wanted to throw Peepee in the volcano with a good "see ya chump", call Liam trash to his face then test my level 6 flamethrower on him, and dance over their charred corpses. Unfortunately the dialogue options were not accommodating biower pls
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Feb 5, 2021 15:38:40 GMT
Sirpetrakus....I really like your Avatar. There's something special about it (to think that Jack and Miranda could actually become friends, and that avatar shows them as two good friends having a laugh) but there's also something kinda sexy about it.....so it's just pretty cool because Jack is my favourite character in the franchise. Did you create it yourself? No, I did not. It is part of a larger picture, which also features femShep and Vega, as I found out. The artist has a deviant art page and ... it's either Joe Black (I think) or Huggybear (I think).
Yes, I do think Jack and Miri could be friends, really good friends. And the fact that we never got that arc, to us that loved these characters, makes their stories feel incomplete, as it seemed to be hinted at in ME2, similarly to Tali and Legion, as both characters respectively grew in ways to allow them to outgrow their differences. I also think that Jack could prove as a very good buffer in helping Miranda grow her relationship with her sister. And, you know, allusions of a sexual nature are not strictly prohibited either.
Yes, you see that budding friendship in the Citadel DLC when Jack and Miranda are at the bar together, bantering and trading barbs back and forth. And I agree with you about your analysis of their relationship in ME 2/3 and how Jack could help Miranda relate to her sister.
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Post by chugster on Jun 30, 2021 21:10:24 GMT
Whilst I voted for Shep and Companions I understand this is unlikely, but if they dont put Shep in they MUST give us closure on Shep and the companions...my ending had the breath and I need to know that my Shep (that i worked hard to save) had a happy ever after with lots of blue babies and died in Liara's arms how ever many years before this new game happens.
Either that or have old Shep sending the new protagonist on their way like Anderson did.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 30, 2021 21:14:52 GMT
Whilst I voted for Shep and Companions I understand this is unlikely, but if they dont put Shep in they MUST give us closure on Shep and the companions...my ending had the breath and I need to know that my Shep had a happy ever after with lots of blue babies and died in Liara's arms how ever many years before this new game happens. Either that or have old Shep sending the new protagonist on their way like Anderson did. I would prefer they don’t spell out what happened after the games for the characters. While some people will be happy, other people will hate it because that’s not what their Shepards would do. Same with Shepard being the new mentor character.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 1, 2021 5:14:06 GMT
Whilst I voted for Shep and Companions I understand this is unlikely, but if they dont put Shep in they MUST give us closure on Shep and the companions...my ending had the breath and I need to know that my Shep had a happy ever after with lots of blue babies and died in Liara's arms how ever many years before this new game happens. Either that or have old Shep sending the new protagonist on their way like Anderson did. I would prefer they don’t spell out what happened after the games for the characters. While some people will be happy, other people will hate it because that’s not what their Shepards would do. Same with Shepard being the new mentor character. This. "I was there when BioWare brought back Hawke."
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 1, 2021 6:16:45 GMT
I would prefer they don’t spell out what happened after the games for the characters. While some people will be happy, other people will hate it because that’s not what their Shepards would do. Same with Shepard being the new mentor character. This. "I was there when BioWare brought back Hawke." Ah, yes. ‘Hawke’. As well as ‘Revan’ and ‘The Exile’. And soon to join those former protagonists bastardized as NPCs, ‘Inquisitor’. Heck even during the trilogy they ruined a lot of people's Shepards, like working with Cerberus, forced to become a mass murderer, etc.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 1, 2021 6:49:25 GMT
This. "I was there when BioWare brought back Hawke." Ah, yes. ‘Hawke’. As well as ‘Revan’ and ‘The Exile’. And soon to join those former protagonists bastardized as NPCs, ‘Inquisitor’. Heck even during the trilogy they ruined a lot of people's Shepards, like working with Cerberus, forced to become a mass murderer, etc. Made me wonder if those characters were ever really mine or whether I was just at the helm for a limited time and then handed them back to BioWare...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 1, 2021 7:18:14 GMT
Ah, yes. ‘Hawke’. As well as ‘Revan’ and ‘The Exile’. And soon to join those former protagonists bastardized as NPCs, ‘Inquisitor’. Heck even during the trilogy they ruined a lot of people's Shepards, like working with Cerberus, forced to become a mass murderer, etc. Made me wonder if those characters were ever really mine or whether I was just at the helm for a limited time and then handed them back to BioWare... If it is the latter, BioWare needs to stop selling their games as if it’s the former.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Jul 1, 2021 8:41:31 GMT
SPOILERS YE BE WARNED
How about they follow up Andromeda? Start by having Ryder and friends go find that Quarian Ark.
And deal with the Benefactor.
And find a cure for Mom!Ryder.
And potentially deal with a Reaper that was sent to follow them.
And deal with the implication that the Angara might be able to be controlled by the Jardaan/Remnant Machines.
And return to Habitat 7
And flesh out the other Pathfinders, giving them teams of their own. Maybe even create (gasp) Krogan and Angara Pathfinders.
And deal with Big Remnant Worm Thing on Elaaden
And land Leusinia and Paarchero on worlds of their own. Finish finding all those missing Turian Pods and get them settled as well.
And slowly watch Port Meridian develop over time with all the potential and danger colonizing a world like Meridian causes.
And aid in the formation of the New Council
And see the results of Peebee adding personalities to Poc and Zap
And see what the new joint Angaran-Initiative Research folks discover while investigating the Archons Corpse
And get Movie Night 2: Blue's Anatomy
And follow up on the rest of the Kett Empire and potential lost/secret Angaran Colony Worlds mentioned in the epilogue
And get Sibling!Ryder as a Squadmate
And get Avela Kjar/Reyes Vidal/The cut Salarian/potentially others as Squadmates, potentially getting some amount of choice in putting our team together going forward.
And get some of the neglected romances some more screentime and all crewmates more development so people come to love them just as much as the originals - who all had 2-3 games of development and screentime.
EDIT - More ideas: And Follow up on Cora. I refuse to believe the writers of the game gave her the surname Harper randomly.
We could do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 14:10:10 GMT
Barring contrivance? In ME? Good luck with that. Yeah, I was going for they shouldn't rather than they can't. FWIW, a post-canonized-Destroy sequel set centuries in the future, with Liara returning as a living link to what's now ancient history, is something I proposed on the old boards even before the EC shipped. Do I get to say I was right all along if ME5 turns out to be that? Yes, yes you do. You are one of the few people that was involved on some version of these forums before me. It was also, likely imo, a correct prediction. I will be duly impressed. As I have mentioned, only two characters from the MET could realistically be alive in this trailer where Liara shows visible aging - Grunt and Liara. Simple deduction based on lifespans. Shep is dead, let he/she/xe rest in peace. It was a good run, my Shep was satisfied.
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Post by duskwanderer on Jul 1, 2021 19:05:07 GMT
I want all new characters, but please use the underutilized races in great fashion. Salarians, elcor, hanar, vorcha, let me run wild with them.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jul 4, 2021 14:18:26 GMT
Liara is already returning so thats all that matters.
In theory Grunt could also return.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 4, 2021 16:37:57 GMT
SPOILERS YE BE WARNED How about they follow up Andromeda? Start by having Ryder and friends go find that Quarian Ark. And deal with the Benefactor. And find a cure for Mom!Ryder. And potentially deal with a Reaper that was sent to follow them. And deal with the implication that the Angara might be able to be controlled by the Jardaan/Remnant Machines. And return to Habitat 7 And flesh out the other Pathfinders, giving them teams of their own. Maybe even create (gasp) Krogan and Angara Pathfinders. And deal with Big Remnant Worm Thing on Elaaden And land Leusinia and Paarchero on worlds of their own. Finish finding all those missing Turian Pods and get them settled as well. And slowly watch Port Meridian develop over time with all the potential and danger colonizing a world like Meridian causes. And aid in the formation of the New Council And see the results of Peebee adding personalities to Poc and Zap And see what the new joint Angaran-Initiative Research folks discover while investigating the Archons Corpse And get Movie Night 2: Blue's Anatomy And follow up on the rest of the Kett Empire and potential lost/secret Angaran Colony Worlds mentioned in the epilogue And get Sibling!Ryder as a Squadmate And get Avela Kjar/Reyes Vidal/The cut Salarian/potentially others as Squadmates, potentially getting some amount of choice in putting our team together going forward. And get some of the neglected romances some more screentime and all crewmates more development so people come to love them just as much as the originals - who all had 2-3 games of development and screentime. EDIT - More ideas: And Follow up on Cora. I refuse to believe the writers of the game gave her the surname Harper randomly. We could do that.
There are so many and better stories that can be told in Andromeda than their are in returning to the Milky Way Galaxy which would be a massive step backwards and chances are would be the video game version of Star Wars: The Rise of the Skywalker.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 4, 2021 17:19:58 GMT
There are so many and better stories that can be told in Andromeda than their are in returning to the Milky Way Galaxy which would be a massive step backwards and chances are would be the video game version of Star Wars: The Rise of the Skywalker. There are so many better stories in the Milky Way to be told then returning to Andromeda leading to another step backwards since MEA was a step backwards by removing a couple things the trilogy had.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 4, 2021 17:23:53 GMT
At this point in time it seems like over 62% do not want OT cast to return.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Jul 5, 2021 7:52:40 GMT
The Trilogy Ended. Andromeda is just beginning. Give it a chance, please. Don't let the haters ruin it for those who actually enjoy it.
Edit: Another thought. Andromeda can give us the chance to explore the nature of the Mass Effect, you know, the thing that the trilogy's ending was supposed to be about? We could explore the concept, if not the exact circumstance, in Andromeda.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 5, 2021 8:04:51 GMT
The Trilogy Ended. Andromeda is just beginning. Give it a chance, please. Don't let the haters ruin it for those who actually enjoy it. Edit: Another thought. Andromeda can give us the chance to explore the nature of the Mass Effect, you know, the thing that the trilogy's ending was supposed to be about? We could explore the concept, if not the exact circumstance, in Andromeda. The nature of the Mass Effect has already been explored, in the Milky Way. It was part of the Reapers trap.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 5, 2021 19:22:58 GMT
The Trilogy Ended. Andromeda is just beginning. Give it a chance, please. Don't let the haters ruin it for those who actually enjoy it. Edit: Another thought. Andromeda can give us the chance to explore the nature of the Mass Effect, you know, the thing that the trilogy's ending was supposed to be about? We could explore the concept, if not the exact circumstance, in Andromeda. The nature of the Mass Effect has already been explored, in the Milky Way. It was part of the Reapers trap. The reaper trap involves the mass effect, but the mass effect itself is just part of the fictional world’s natural phenomena, unless it turns out that the reapers synthesized element zero as well.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 5, 2021 20:16:21 GMT
The nature of the Mass Effect has already been explored, in the Milky Way. It was part of the Reapers trap. The reaper trap involves the mass effect, but the mass effect itself is just part of the fictional world’s natural phenomena, unless it turns out that the reapers synthesized element zero as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Bio went down that road.
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