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Post by Adia on Dec 18, 2020 3:34:03 GMT
I mean I wouldn't mind a cameo of Shepard / their companions. In fact I'd love that.
But for ME5 I really want to go back to Andromeda... Despite the fact that I feel like neither Shepard's or their crew's story truly concluded properly, I'm really done with it. It's been too long. 8 years to be exact. And saying that hurts my soul because I'd love to see Miranda and Kaidan's lovely faces again.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Dec 18, 2020 6:46:27 GMT
I picked "other". Some companions such as Liara and Grunt (who have long lifespans), no Shepard. I love my Shepard but she rode off into the sunset with Kaidan and I don't want that messed with.
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Post by shermos on Dec 18, 2020 7:43:02 GMT
One. More. Story. Ha, just kidding...really depends on what or how they'd do it. Generally I think a canonized post-destroy MW a few years after provides a good setting to play with story-wise...but that's just me. It's not just you. It would be a great setting. Rebuilding, dealing with the chaos and corruption, reorganising, gathering allies to get the job done etc. It has so much potential. But it does appear that it is not the new ME, unfortunately. They're going to skip all the interesting stuff and just give us a new world state we had no hand in creating. Which might be fantastic but it's going to feel like the Star Wars sequels where we don't see what happens in between. Just feels like a missed opportunity. They could still do the time jump and tie Andromeda in with the next game, assuming they don't balls it up and kill the franchise stone dead.
I can see how playing a role in rebuilding the galaxy could make a fun game, but it has the problem of being too close to the ending of ME3. People are going to complain about their choices in the trilogy not being honoured. A lot of things can be explained with the passage of time like the genophage being cured one way or another, but even going decades or more into the future, some things are going to have to canonised, like whether the Quarians, Geth or both survived their war of if the Rachni are still around. If Bioware stays true to form, they will want to piss off as few people as possible even though Andromeda spectacularly failed at this.
Jumping as far ahead as the Andromeda timeline is not my preference, but it could still work. The vast majority of the Milky Way remained unexplored in Shepard's era, and even 500 years later there's likely to be planty of unexplored regions remaining. To say there are a lot of wonders and potentially new races to discover is an understatement.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 18, 2020 8:44:02 GMT
Well, sad to say, new NPC’s are kind of a requisite here. BioWare can’t just package nothing but oldies in a totally new game with a totally new story and call it a day. When it comes to character content in particular, a big part of that, especially in a BioWare game, is the buildup of getting to know a character and their growing relationship with our protagonist. And had this been worthwhile in the new games, maybe I could have been on board with it. But Bioware's new protagonists and supporting cast have been criticized in almost every game since DA2. So that aspect doesn't seem as appealing. Something like a long settled-in relationship isn’t exactly intriguing, and I do not expect BioWare to be up to the task to making it so. The “pursuit” aspect is a stronger driving force in character content for these games, not the repeatable kiss and snuggle mechanic, because the pursuit is where you get the strongest narrative tie to the character before the pair’s emotional connection. For example, Cyberpunk has a mission where you essentially get to know a character rather deeply, learning about their past and internal struggles and hangups while visiting a place from their past. This sort of thing would not have been interesting if these characters already knew each other for years, because it would beg the question “why the fuck didn’t they do this already?” Don't reduce it to snuggle mechanics. Press "F" to cuddle? Nobody liked that. Did they? There is more to a relationship than that and seeing how these people work together is another payoff of that. Shepard and Liara caught that in the LotSB DLC and it is some of the best Liara gets in the entire series. Something that, I'd argue, no other romance gets in the series and something that Bioware use to do with Throne of Baal and the NWN1 expansions. As for the "why the fuck didn't they do this already" part, well, there was a galactic genocide, there was a long incarceration time for Shepard, before that and a suicide mission before that. As for potential, that ship has sailed, at least for the old lot. BioWare had 3 games to flesh them all out. Too late to supplement them now. Which would be true for Liara, Garrus and Tali, not so much for the rest of the crew. And you know that if Bioware went back to the trilogy crew, they bring these three back, before anyone else. To capitalize on exactly that. This game needs to actually deliver on building rather than just running some maintenance, otherwise it will just feel stale. One might be inclined to keep pointing at Andromeda as a case against, but that’s like establishing that BioWare should never make another game again altogether. Maybe they're right. I'd rather Bioware was either left in a perpetual state of making another game, or be shut down, at this point and absorbed into an EA studio, working in non Bioware related projects. The gaming public knows them, over the past decade, only from underwhelming releases that managed to cause controversies. Inquisition was the luckiest of the bunch, because the franchise had already died with DA2 and nobody cared about it. And are we going to argue returning squadmates, after Bioware are bringing Varric back? Varric has had more content to himself than Garrus and Tali combined. And he was terrible in Inquisition. Which was par for the course, but still. The more I think about this, the more I’m just hoping that Liara (maybe Wrex) is the only survivor from the original cast. It’s a clean and effective way to just move on and drop off a lot of unneeded baggage, and gives BioWare a chance to actually put some effort into creating a fresher experience. You're not bringing people back with a "fresher experience". Andromeda was the "fresher experience". Anthem was the "fresher experience". And now that the internet is abuzz with the return of Liara and Shepard thanks to that trailer, see how well that will go when the reveal happens. It'll kill the title instantly. As someone who has played the trilogy numerous times, the last thing I want is to try to follow whatever it was I feel my Shepard was like. Apparently, that isn't a popular sentiment.
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Post by kalreegar on Dec 18, 2020 9:39:11 GMT
First of all, I want good writers return for ME5. Bacause, despite the last crazy 10 minutes, the original trilogy was well written. Characters used to say things that people would say in real life, the alien races and the interspecies relationships were believable, there was not the unbearable will (or at least is was well disguised) to be didactic and pendantic about tolerance diveristy ecc., the main quests were built in such a way that the discovery of the world and its mysteries was gradual and wise, never forced, there was a good handling of the climax.
Not Andromeda. Andromeda seems to be written by 13 years old kids who have made an effort but have read few books and have zero talent and experience. Bethesda writing in comparison seems Hemingway. And Bethesda dialogues are often childish, or innatural, or oversimplified. I'm sorry but on this subject I don't accept objections. By all universally accepted standards, the level of the screenplay of andromeda is semi-amateurish. It has some decent moments, it is never excessively obscene, but 90% of the time it settles on a level of mediocrity unacceptable for a game that wants to make the story and characters its strength.
Without a decent writing (at least inquisition level) Shepard and the old crew would be a nightmare.
Secondly, I want the milky way back, because I think that the way it was built, its locations, its species, its conflicts and contrasts, is inimitable. It's Star Wars/Star Trek level. It's a classic. And as every classic, it be copied or replicated. Here I accept objection but I think that Milky Way + Andromeda could be a strong choice.
If they meet these two per-requisites, then they can add Shepard and a few companions in there, why not. Cameo, main characters, 60 minutes after ME3 ending, 600 years after ME3 ending, whatever, the sky is the limit when you have good writers and a good setting. But the key points are the first two.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 18, 2020 11:04:50 GMT
Well, sad to say, new NPC’s are kind of a requisite here. BioWare can’t just package nothing but oldies in a totally new game with a totally new story and call it a day. When it comes to character content in particular, a big part of that, especially in a BioWare game, is the buildup of getting to know a character and their growing relationship with our protagonist. And had this been worthwhile in the new games, maybe I could have been on board with it. But Bioware's new protagonists and supporting cast have been criticized in almost every game since DA2. So that aspect doesn't seem as appealing. Something like a long settled-in relationship isn’t exactly intriguing, and I do not expect BioWare to be up to the task to making it so. The “pursuit” aspect is a stronger driving force in character content for these games, not the repeatable kiss and snuggle mechanic, because the pursuit is where you get the strongest narrative tie to the character before the pair’s emotional connection. For example, Cyberpunk has a mission where you essentially get to know a character rather deeply, learning about their past and internal struggles and hangups while visiting a place from their past. This sort of thing would not have been interesting if these characters already knew each other for years, because it would beg the question “why the fuck didn’t they do this already?” Don't reduce it to snuggle mechanics. Press "F" to cuddle? Nobody liked that. Did they? There is more to a relationship than that and seeing how these people work together is another payoff of that. Shepard and Liara caught that in the LotSB DLC and it is some of the best Liara gets in the entire series. Something that, I'd argue, no other romance gets in the series and something that Bioware use to do with Throne of Baal and the NWN1 expansions. As for the "why the fuck didn't they do this already" part, well, there was a galactic genocide, there was a long incarceration time for Shepard, before that and a suicide mission before that. As for potential, that ship has sailed, at least for the old lot. BioWare had 3 games to flesh them all out. Too late to supplement them now. Which would be true for Liara, Garrus and Tali, not so much for the rest of the crew. And you know that if Bioware went back to the trilogy crew, they bring these three back, before anyone else. To capitalize on exactly that. This game needs to actually deliver on building rather than just running some maintenance, otherwise it will just feel stale. One might be inclined to keep pointing at Andromeda as a case against, but that’s like establishing that BioWare should never make another game again altogether. Maybe they're right. I'd rather Bioware was either left in a perpetual state of making another game, or be shut down, at this point and absorbed into an EA studio, working in non EA related projects. The gaming public knows them, over the past decade, only from underwhelming releases that managed to cause controversies. Inquisition was the luckiest of the bunch, because the franchise had already died with DA2 and nobody cared about it. And are we going to argue returning squadmates, after Bioware are bringing Varric back? Varric has had more content to himself and Garrus and Tali combined. And he was terrible in Inquisition. Which was par for the course, but still. The more I think about this, the more I’m just hoping that Liara (maybe Wrex) is the only survivor from the original cast. It’s a clean and effective way to just move on and drop off a lot of unneeded baggage, and gives BioWare a chance to actually put some effort into creating a fresher experience. You're not bringing people back with a "fresher experience". Andromeda was the "fresher experience". Anthem was the "fresher experience". And now that the internet is abuzz with the return of Liara and Shepard thanks to that trailer, see how well that will go when the reveal happens. It'll kill the title instantly. As someone who has played the trilogy numerous times, the last thing I want is to try to follow whatever it was I feel my Shepard was like. Apparently, that isn't a popular sentiment. There’s no good case against making new characters solely on the basis that some new characters made in the past didn’t pan out, unless we’re advocating for embracing creative bankruptcy. Welp, didn’t work out, guess we should give up and just do what people know. Regarding Varric, most Mass Effect companions had anemic character content compared to most companions across any of the Dragon Age games, and why I typically consider Dragon Age to be superior in terms of its companion system, particularly with the added layer of choice reactivity. If a fresher experience is not the goal, then I don’t see the point. Just trying to ride the dick of nostalgia won’t save the franchise, because that won’t have any bearing on the quality of the final product. Shepard, Ryder, Smith from Bumfuck nowhere, it won’t make a difference, other than which makes for the most enticing promo material.
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 18, 2020 11:50:17 GMT
I voted No. Shepard's story and that of his/her companions is over and frankly, returning characters rarely go well in BioWare games.
Also, imagine a new Mass Effect game starring Shepard and your most beloved crew but now written by the gang that brought us MEA and Anthem. It will be like a boxer returning to the ring after ten years of retirement - you sadly watch the spectacle and really wish he would have remained retired and be remembered as the icon he was then, not the shadow of himself that he is now.
Anyway, after the reaper threat was dealt with, anything that could happen to Shepard and the team would probably feel anticlimactic. I really don't want Mass Effect go down the same road of continuous escalation as the recent Dragon Age games, where an ancient evil out to destroy the world is replaced with a more ancient, greater evil that also wants to destroy the world but in a more spectacular fashion (the one exception being DA2).
One of the few interesting plots I could see Shepard in would be something along the lines of "Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom", but I don't trust BioWare to come up with that kind of story. Most likely they'll advance the Milky Way timeline for over 600 years to build a connection to Andromeda and go from there. That said, I'm at peace with that and will happily remember Shepard and his team as the icons they were.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 18, 2020 12:06:57 GMT
There’s no good case against making new characters solely on the basis that some new characters made in the past didn’t pan out, Yes, it does, when it didn't work the fifth time. unless we’re advocating for embracing creative bankruptcy. Welp, didn’t work out, guess we should give up and just do what people know. If it keeps you away from controversy and affords you to get your bearings straight for once, then sure. Build up some trust, then, once your rep, your workers and your franchise are healthy again, then you give it another go. There is a difference between being creatively bankrupt and making amends to your fanbase. Just look what Disney is in progress of doing with the Mandalorian vs what they did with the sequels. I'm not advocating for nothing new, but right now, Bioware has ensures there is a very limited and specific interest in ME that if the next title deviates, you might as well cancel the game. Regarding Varric, most Mass Effect companions had anemic character content compared to most companions across any of the Dragon Age games, and why I typically consider Dragon Age to be superior in terms of its companion system, particularly with the added layer of choice reactivity. I ... disagree. And we'll probably see that in 2023. If a fresher experience is not the goal, then I don’t see the point. A fresh experience needn't mean nuking everything from the past, but that's the Bioware approach. And people don't seem to take kindly to it. Just trying to ride the dick of nostalgia won’t save the franchise, because that won’t have any bearing on the quality of the final product. Remember when I said that Inquisition's greatest achievement was not creating a controversy? Shepard, Ryder, Smith from Bumfuck nowhere, it won’t make a difference, other than which makes for the most enticing promo material. No. But it will make a difference to the audience. Bioware does not operate in a vacuum.
Do you know what creative bankruptcy looks like? Rehashing the first game in your series, with a gender swapped cast and calling it a fresh take.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 18, 2020 12:26:36 GMT
Personally i would rather not have shepard nor his/her companions. He/she had development for 3 games. Liara might return along with the other companions that still might live. Ryder and crew had only one so i would really like if they can have them instead of a new pc...I'm not counting shepard out in the nme but don't know how they'll implement it in the story, timetravel or only show up as a memory? Also i think there will be a big problem in character development and screentime here. People will not be happy if we have both of them cause they'll want only one. I'm not taking anything at face value based from what they showed us, but I don't ignore anything either. Either what they showed us will be in the game, some of it, or none. I'm gonna go with a reconnection between galaxies, and that could possibly be the theme of the game. To reconnect, to help each other. Unicephalon said something interesting about the n7 helmet piece. It shows us that mass effect isn't dead, and they put it out from the ice. That's one way. There could be more ways, shepard might return to some extent, might not, we might have ryder or not, have both or not, or have a new pc. We'll see when we have more information. Exactly I'd rather the ycontinue Ryder' sstory becvause for me it still feels unfinished whereas for m eShep is done. I liked Shep and co but for me it's time to move on Shepard has had their time in the spotlight.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 18, 2020 14:43:56 GMT
I'd rather the ycontinue Ryder' sstory becvause for me it still feels unfinished Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 18, 2020 14:51:12 GMT
Exactly I'd rather the ycontinue Ryder' sstory becvause for me it still feels unfinished whereas for m eShep is done. I liked Shep and co but for me it's time to move on Shepard has had their time in the spotlight. Yeah its missing like, 2 games or so Lets see what future brings.
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Post by ClarkKent on Dec 18, 2020 14:51:39 GMT
I'm trying to understand what Bioware is thinking with this game. Obviously the demand for Shepard is the strongest of all out there, even if not in here. Just look at all the outlets going nuts over Shepard coming back. Barring that, there is ... some demand for Ryder, which is OK, I don't have to buy the game, if I don't want it. But at least someone does. I don't know how well that will go, but Bioware can knock themselves out, at it. So we've already got a fanbase that is splintered, or divided, or fragmented, call it what you will. So introducing a third protagonist would fix none of the pre-existing problems, I know I won't be buying their game, and helps further splinter the fanbase, as a potential 3rd dropped protagonist will create their own division in their fanbase. At which point, we can keep pilling up protagonists, till the interest in the franchise completely dissolves, even considering this game, if it even makes the current console gen, as a live service game, will definitely be the ONLY Mass Effect we are getting, till 2030 at the earliest. And if what I hear is true, ~2030 will probably be DA5's time. We might be getting another new IP, or at least a non DA/ME title after ME5. I don't know how many will be interested in playing a live service ME, which ME5 will be, with new characters, old ones appearing as info dumps and quest givers, a la Destiny/Anthem etc. with little to zero interaction outside of questlines, which will vastly undermine their re-appearances to the point of less than a ME2's character cameo appearance in ME3. Nobody's going to care for that, nobody's going to be satisfied with that. But at least Liara is back. I suspect people are more in love with their idea of what a returning Shepard would be like rather than what they’ll probably get. This hypothetical Shepard would likely get the same homogenized callback dialogue that no longer accounts for much of anything from the previous trilogy, and I’d look forward to the displeasure of people who really wanted to romance that shiny new NPC, but they’re saddled with dealing with the old one they romanced way back when. That or, once again, confirming the romance. Liara: “I’d like to do this again some time Shepard, perhaps as more than just...friends.” Shepard: “Bitch, we’ve been married for 15 years!” I don’t really give a shit about getting Ryder back or not at this point. I just don’t want to be saddled with a character that’s had a long, extensive narrative, particularly one that’s basically elevated to galactic savior status. I’d rather start off with a nobody character that gets built up through the story than one that has everyone going “Oh shit it’s Shepard” at every hub. As for live service, well that can just die in a fire. The last thing Mass Effect needs is some hamster wheel sandbox. The little side content arenas like ME3MP will suffice. Agreed. It seems many in the bring-back-Shepard camp are under the illusion that Shepard's return will also come with all the choices in the OT accounted for, and all of the squad mates that they liked returning in prominent roles. Which, if it was barely possible in Mass Effect 3, then it sure as hell won't be possible in Mass Effect 4.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 18, 2020 15:06:42 GMT
Agreed. It seems many in the bring-back-Shepard camp are under the illusion that Shepard's return will also come with all the choices in the OT accounted for, and all of the squad mates that they liked returning in prominent roles. Which, if it was barely possible in Mass Effect 3, then it sure as hell won't be possible in Mass Effect 4. If you throw away the choices, which were just zero reward consequences and go on from there, you won't have to relegate anyone.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 18, 2020 15:35:07 GMT
There’s no good case against making new characters solely on the basis that some new characters made in the past didn’t pan out, Yes, it does, when it didn't work the fifth time. unless we’re advocating for embracing creative bankruptcy. Welp, didn’t work out, guess we should give up and just do what people know. If it keeps you away from controversy and affords you to get your bearings straight for once, then sure. Build up some trust, then, once your rep, your workers and your franchise are healthy again, then you give it another go. There is a difference between being creatively bankrupt and making amends to your fanbase. Just look what Disney is in progress of doing with the Mandalorian vs what they did with the sequels. I'm not advocating for nothing new, but right now, Bioware has ensures there is a very limited and specific interest in ME that if the next title deviates, you might as well cancel the game. Regarding Varric, most Mass Effect companions had anemic character content compared to most companions across any of the Dragon Age games, and why I typically consider Dragon Age to be superior in terms of its companion system, particularly with the added layer of choice reactivity. I ... disagree. And we'll probably see that in 2023. If a fresher experience is not the goal, then I don’t see the point. A fresh experience needn't mean nuking everything from the past, but that's the Bioware approach. And people don't seem to take kindly to it. Just trying to ride the dick of nostalgia won’t save the franchise, because that won’t have any bearing on the quality of the final product. Remember when I said that Inquisition's greatest achievement was not creating a controversy? Shepard, Ryder, Smith from Bumfuck nowhere, it won’t make a difference, other than which makes for the most enticing promo material. No. But it will make a difference to the audience. Bioware does not operate in a vacuum.
Do you know what creative bankruptcy looks like? Rehashing the first game in your series, with a gender swapped cast and calling it a fresh take.
Fifth? It’s getting kind of fuzzy as to how many games you’re referring to. Regardless of your personal opinion of the titles you have in mind, only Andromeda really lacked in overall interest from fans at large. Even DA2, for all its issues, still had lots of interest in its NPC’s. As for the Mandalorian, I have to say I’d be pretty disappointed if we got a Mass Effect along the same vein. Frankly, The Mandalorian, at least through its first season and part of its second, felt like stopgap content, like it just served a bowl of memberberries so that it could meander seemingly aimlessly through the galactic backwoods with little fuss. It consistently teetered on the edges of decent television to mediocrity, made more tolerable by its relative cohesiveness and reserve in comparison to the trainwreck of a trilogy. Maybe others might be excited by a “Mandalorian-esque” Mass Effect, but I find the prospect fucking boring. Whether or not you disagree, in terms of actual quantity, Dragon Age companions simply get more content than those from Mass Effect by virtue of the reactivity system and a having a fair bit more dialogue between plot points. Their variable disposition means that interactions can have 2 or more states with which they interact with the PC, and in the case of DA2, they all had multi-stage companion quests that spanned the length of the game, whereas Mass Effect only had a single mission each, and only really in one game outside of Garrus and Wrex in ME1. I suspect if Mass Effect [continued] follows the format of its predecessors, this will not have changed much at all. I think you’re confusing what I mean by a fresher experience. This is simply on a character level, not the universe itself. I’m talking simply about having us being able to play with a different background, rather than still having the ones going all the way back to ME1, and having new opportunities to establish our protagonist outside of the parameters of Shepard. From a gameplay standpoint, also someone who actually has a reason to start at level 1.....again. They got away with that once because of Project Lazarus. Doubtful they can pull it off twice. I’m not sure why people want their brand new game to be limited to the constraints of the original trilogy to this degree. Just saying “Ryder sucks so they’ll all suck” isn’t good enough. Do they want to pay for nothing but a low effort apology, or do they want to pay for something with a bit more effort put into it?
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Post by Tonymac on Dec 18, 2020 16:12:37 GMT
I'd rather the ycontinue Ryder' sstory becvause for me it still feels unfinished Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game. From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons) is sub-par by a long shot. There is a LOT that they got wrong. Animations were better in ME1, for instance. Humans look all weird and frog-eyed. They have slow talking Salarians - and even when they are not in a forced SJW moments, they talk like regular people and not like Salarians. I also cannot get over "female" Krogan that sound like dudes wearing lipstick that talk with a California lisp. The Kett or whatever they are called look an awful lot like Collector drop-ins. Angarans look like chewed bubble-gum and have muscles and masses of flesh in places that make no sense physiologically. Aliens can look alien and not look like about a hundred and fifty pounds of chewed bubble gum. The story / plot is pretty boring, if not just a snoozefest, yet we have to include some kind of genetics stuff in there just to tie back to the OT. Ancient bad guys (Remnant?) made "golden worlds" less habitable to ..... humans or Angarans? with technology that could terraform pretty much any world, but luckily we can unlock it with a sudoku puzzle. Given the technology of the OT, we can't get to Andromeda - there are no planets between galaxies to discharge our drive cores on. So, what do we do, build up speed and glide out there in zero G? (Which would, by definition, be sub-light speed, btw). We really need better writers - for plot, story and even characters. Speaking of characters, I'm just not a Ryder fan. It's not that they are a couple of feet shorter than Commander Shepard, I just hate the character. They've got no machismo. If Ryder were to die in a tire fire I would not shed a tear, or care, in the slightest, at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like pretty much ALL of the characters. There are so many dumb conversations and no consequences to choices or actions that there is literally no point in playing the game for me. The very idea of stealing resources away from the coming Reaper War to fund and build the Andromeda Initiative reeks of retconning and is frankly insulting. I understand that this was a ploy to avoid the OT ending fiasco, but I think that a series like Mass Effect should stick to their lore. Sure, tech can change and advance, and so can the lore, but do it right. Otherwise, it smells of space magic. Did we bring along a bunch of Eezo mining equipment with us, or are we forgoing EVERYTHING that made the Mass Effect have an effect on mass? Given the poor reception of Andromeda, I'm not sure that they want to (or should) include it or tie it in with the next game.
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 18, 2020 16:16:24 GMT
No. The trilogy is complete and Shepard is dead.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 18, 2020 16:20:27 GMT
Fifth? It’s getting kind of fuzzy as to how many games you’re referring to I'm going to skip Sonic Chronicles ... and ToR, although none of those stuck either and go with DA2, ME3, DA:I, ME:A and Anthem. Outside of their respective fandoms, the normies don't care for any of the new characters introduced in these games. Regardless of your personal opinion of the titles you have in mind, only Andromeda really lacked in overall interest from fans at large. Even DA2, for all its issues, still had lots of interest in its NPC’s. That the normies don't care for. As for the Mandalorian, I have to say I’d be pretty disappointed if we got a Mass Effect along the same vein. Frankly, The Mandalorian, at least through its first season and part of its second, felt like stopgap content, like it just served a bowl of memberberries so that it could meander seemingly aimlessly through the galactic backwoods with little fuss. It consistently teetered on the edges of decent television to mediocrity, made more tolerable by its relative cohesiveness and reserve in comparison to the trainwreck of a trilogy. Maybe others might be excited by a “Mandalorian-esque” Mass Effect, but I find the prospect fucking boring. It enjoyed a far better reception than the ST. You and I aren't the driving force behind ME's commercial success, I'm afraid. Whether or not you disagree, in terms of actual quantity, Dragon Age companions simply get more content than those from Mass Effect by virtue of the reactivity system and a having a fair bit more dialogue between plot points. Their variable disposition means that interactions can have 2 or more states with which they interact with the PC, and in the case of DA2, they all had multi-stage companion quests that spanned the length of the game, whereas Mass Effect only had a single mission each, and only really in one game outside of Garrus and Wrex in ME1. I suspect if Mass Effect [continued] follows the format of its predecessors, this will not have changed much at all. I don't disagree with this, at all. I think you’re confusing what I mean by a fresher experience. This is simply on a character level, not the universe itself. Yes, it is. If you're rehashing the same story from ME1. That you retrofitted the Milky Way with the name Andromeda and called it a day, doesn't make it "fresh", either. I’m talking simply about having us being able to play with a different background, rather than still having the ones going all the way back to ME1, and having new opportunities to establish our protagonist outside of the parameters of Shepard. But simply "new" doesn't mean "good", nor does it guarantee resonance with people. And it's not something people care to toy with, when a game can be the only title you get, every 5 to 10 years. They want "guarantee". Shepard, to them, is "guarantee". Watch what's going to happen when Bioware makes the real reveal for the next PC. From a gameplay standpoint, also someone who actually has a reason to start at level 1.....again. They got away with that once because of Project Lazarus. Doubtful they can pull it off twice. I’m not sure why people want their brand new game to be limited to the constraints of the original trilogy to this degree It depends whether you consider the trilogy a limit or a boon to your franchise. Rian Johnson would likely agree with you. Just saying “Ryder sucks so they’ll all suck” isn’t good enough They've yet to be proven otherwise, after a string of protagonists. Do they want to pay for nothing but a low effort apology, A low effort apology isn't going to work. It's going to need to be a really high effort apology. I don't think Yvonne Strahovski is as cheap to employ anymore. Which is probably another reason why they won't be doing it. or do they want to pay for something with a bit more effort put into it? I wouldn't diminish the effort of any of these games. I don't think ME1 took less effort than ME:A, or that any new game in the series would be "phoning it in". But the end result may be more appealing and the audience may be more forgiving. I get the feeling you act like the trilogy is something we should be ashamed of, which I don't share.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 18, 2020 17:08:52 GMT
Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game. I haven't played Andromeda yet but I do believe the universe itself lends itself fully to a lot of exploration and growth. I sincerely hope, no matter what happens with ME5, that the Andromeda setting doesn't get dumped.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 18, 2020 17:30:19 GMT
Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game. I haven't played Andromeda yet but I do believe the universe itself lends itself fully to a lot of exploration and growth. I don't. Another thing I disliked about Andromeda was that the writers had no sense of scale. Writer 1-'How many should go?' Writer 2- 'Oh, i dont know? A lot?' Writer 1- 'Ok, how about 120k?' Writer 2- 'Wow! That is a lot! Cool!'. 120k, 20k from each major race plus the Nexus, is the size of a small town. For the Initiative to have a population large enough to even begin thinking of worthwhile colonies that could support themselves and each other with some sort of trade they would have to have every female permanently pregnant for a couple of centuries. Don't see that going down well. And then theres the renegades who left. Most of the colonists are still on ice, so the renegades could only have amounted a few thousand at the absolute most. Yet they're setting up colonies left and right in only a year or two. None of this makes any sense at all and destroys any illusion that this whole thing is anything other than a 'pew pew' third person shooter written by teenagers who have never played the OT. I sincerely hope, no matter what happens with ME5, that the Andromeda setting doesn't get dumped. I don't understand your attachment if you haven't played the game. I personally dont think it's worth saving, others do, but at least we've played it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 18, 2020 17:36:35 GMT
I don't understand your attachment if you haven't played the game. I personally dont think it's worth saving, others do, but at least we've played it. I have no attachment to the game, but I would like it getting a title of its own, to at least offer some proper closure to its fans. I know that pain.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 18, 2020 17:42:08 GMT
First of all, I want good writers return for ME5. Bacause, despite the last crazy 10 minutes, the original trilogy was well written. Characters used to say things that people would say in real life, the alien races and the interspecies relationships were believable, there was not the unbearable will (or at least is was well disguised) to be didactic and pendantic about tolerance diveristy ecc., the main quests were built in such a way that the discovery of the world and its mysteries was gradual and wise, never forced, there was a good handling of the climax. Not Andromeda. Andromeda seems to be written by 13 years old kids who have made an effort but have read few books and have zero talent and experience. Bethesda writing in comparison seems Hemingway. And Bethesda dialogues are often childish, or innatural, or oversimplified. I'm sorry but on this subject I don't accept objections. By all universally accepted standards, the level of the screenplay of andromeda is semi-amateurish. It has some decent moments, it is never excessively obscene, but 90% of the time it settles on a level of mediocrity unacceptable for a game that wants to make the story and characters its strength. Without a decent writing (at least inquisition level) Shepard and the old crew would be a nightmare. Secondly, I want the milky way back, because I think that the way it was built, its locations, its species, its conflicts and contrasts, is inimitable. It's Star Wars/Star Trek level. It's a classic. And as every classic, it be copied or replicated. Here I accept objection but I think that Milky Way + Andromeda could be a strong choice. If they meet these two per-requisites, then they can add Shepard and a few companions in there, why not. Cameo, main characters, 60 minutes after ME3 ending, 600 years after ME3 ending, whatever, the sky is the limit when you have good writers and a good setting. But the key points are the first two. .. this bad argument again? If you think MET has more realistic dialogue then I have no idea who you hang out with. Not slighting MET but both 1 and 3 have heavily stilted lines you ONLY hear in dramatic entertainment. I’ve heard more people speak like Andromeda than any other Bioware game actually.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 18, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
First of all, I want good writers return for ME5. Bacause, despite the last crazy 10 minutes, the original trilogy was well written. Characters used to say things that people would say in real life, the alien races and the interspecies relationships were believable, there was not the unbearable will (or at least is was well disguised) to be didactic and pendantic about tolerance diveristy ecc., the main quests were built in such a way that the discovery of the world and its mysteries was gradual and wise, never forced, there was a good handling of the climax. Not Andromeda. Andromeda seems to be written by 13 years old kids who have made an effort but have read few books and have zero talent and experience. Bethesda writing in comparison seems Hemingway. And Bethesda dialogues are often childish, or innatural, or oversimplified. I'm sorry but on this subject I don't accept objections. By all universally accepted standards, the level of the screenplay of andromeda is semi-amateurish. It has some decent moments, it is never excessively obscene, but 90% of the time it settles on a level of mediocrity unacceptable for a game that wants to make the story and characters its strength. Without a decent writing (at least inquisition level) Shepard and the old crew would be a nightmare. Secondly, I want the milky way back, because I think that the way it was built, its locations, its species, its conflicts and contrasts, is inimitable. It's Star Wars/Star Trek level. It's a classic. And as every classic, it be copied or replicated. Here I accept objection but I think that Milky Way + Andromeda could be a strong choice. If they meet these two per-requisites, then they can add Shepard and a few companions in there, why not. Cameo, main characters, 60 minutes after ME3 ending, 600 years after ME3 ending, whatever, the sky is the limit when you have good writers and a good setting. But the key points are the first two. .. this bad argument again? If you think MET has more realistic dialogue then I have no idea who you hang out with. Not slighting MET but both 1 and 3 have heavily stilted lines you ONLY hear in dramatic entertainment. I’ve heard more people speak like Andromeda than any other Bioware game actually. M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I did enjoy the trilogy's story stil do but it did feel a little fak ea ttimes almost lik ewatching an episod eof Dr Who agains tthe Daleks. Andromeda tbh fel tmoer like wha tyou might call a Star Trek. Because in many ways Andromeda kind of reminds me of StarTrek Voyager in that you'er out there alone with little or no backup to call on much like Janeway and her crew were in the Delta Quadrant.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 18, 2020 18:46:49 GMT
Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game. From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons) is sub-par by a long shot. There is a LOT that they got wrong. Animations were better in ME1, for instance. Humans look all weird and frog-eyed. They have slow talking Salarians - and even when they are not in a forced SJW moments, they talk like regular people and not like Salarians. I also cannot get over "female" Krogan that sound like dudes wearing lipstick that talk with a California lisp. The Kett or whatever they are called look an awful lot like Collector drop-ins. Angarans look like chewed bubble-gum and have muscles and masses of flesh in places that make no sense physiologically. Aliens can look alien and not look like about a hundred and fifty pounds of chewed bubble gum. The story / plot is pretty boring, if not just a snoozefest, yet we have to include some kind of genetics stuff in there just to tie back to the OT. Ancient bad guys (Remnant?) made "golden worlds" less habitable to ..... humans or Angarans? with technology that could terraform pretty much any world, but luckily we can unlock it with a sudoku puzzle. Given the technology of the OT, we can't get to Andromeda - there are no planets between galaxies to discharge our drive cores on. So, what do we do, build up speed and glide out there in zero G? (Which would, by definition, be sub-light speed, btw). We really need better writers - for plot, story and even characters. Speaking of characters, I'm just not a Ryder fan. It's not that they are a couple of feet shorter than Commander Shepard, I just hate the character. They've got no machismo. If Ryder were to die in a tire fire I would not shed a tear, or care, in the slightest, at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like pretty much ALL of the characters. There are so many dumb conversations and no consequences to choices or actions that there is literally no point in playing the game for me. The very idea of stealing resources away from the coming Reaper War to fund and build the Andromeda Initiative reeks of retconning and is frankly insulting. I understand that this was a ploy to avoid the OT ending fiasco, but I think that a series like Mass Effect should stick to their lore. Sure, tech can change and advance, and so can the lore, but do it right. Otherwise, it smells of space magic. Did we bring along a bunch of Eezo mining equipment with us, or are we forgoing EVERYTHING that made the Mass Effect have an effect on mass? Given the poor reception of Andromeda, I'm not sure that they want to (or should) include it or tie it in with the next game.
Funny that the last time I checked MEA was the best rated game of the series on Steam according to players.
I got news for MET story wasn't exactly great or original by any stretch either it's basically What if James Bond was the lead in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5 with some BSG elements thrown in for good measure. Since I got all the James Bond movies, DS9, B5, and BSG and I have gotten older I don't have the want and much less the desire or even the basic need to play such in such a stupid juvenile power fantasy. I want to play an explorer type character who gets into action like Sara Ryder over stupid action hero like Jane Shepard.
If I want to watch James Bond in space I'll watch fucking Moonraker and save myself 80-100 hours of my life.
Honestly I think the main reason for the success of the MET was the lack of any good new space based sci-fi TV shows and movies when the first game debuted because the only major new sci-fi franchise was Halo and now that we in "The Silver Age Sci-Fi TV" I think it's why ME and Halo feel like their struggling to get going. Because we have more sci-fi TV and movies than ever some of it light-years ahead of anything being done and is told much better than the best stories in video games.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 18, 2020 18:51:36 GMT
.. this bad argument again? If you think MET has more realistic dialogue then I have no idea who you hang out with. Not slighting MET but both 1 and 3 have heavily stilted lines you ONLY hear in dramatic entertainment. I’ve heard more people speak like Andromeda than any other Bioware game actually. M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I did enjoy the trilogy's story stil do but it did feel a little fak ea ttimes almost lik ewatching an episod eof Dr Who agains tthe Daleks. Andromeda tbh fel tmoer like wha tyou might call a Star Trek. Because in many ways Andromeda kind of reminds me of StarTrek Voyager in that you'er out there alone with little or no backup to call on much like Janeway and her crew were in the Delta Quadrant.
If you want a more fair comparison: Star Trek: Picard was often more like the MET but with better writing and characters.
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