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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 18, 2020 18:52:22 GMT
.. this bad argument again? If you think MET has more realistic dialogue then I have no idea who you hang out with. Not slighting MET but both 1 and 3 have heavily stilted lines you ONLY hear in dramatic entertainment. I’ve heard more people speak like Andromeda than any other Bioware game actually. M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I know right, maybe a lot of people are not in touch with younger people, especially a bit nervous or unsure about what they are supposed to do -ones? Most of us have stumbled in the dark, sometimes literally, and came out better because of what happened, what led to the outcome. Learn the ropes. Get up from nobody to someone who did something good to help.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 18, 2020 19:05:27 GMT
M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I know right, maybe a lot of people are not in touch with younger people, especially a bit nervous or unsure about what they are supposed to do -ones? Most of us have stumbled in the dark, sometimes literally, and came out better because of what happened, what led to the outcome. Learn the ropes. Get up from nobody to someone who did something good to help.
It's also a lot more fun.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 18, 2020 19:13:14 GMT
M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I did enjoy the trilogy's story stil do but it did feel a little fak ea ttimes almost lik ewatching an episod eof Dr Who agains tthe Daleks. Andromeda tbh fel tmoer like wha tyou might call a Star Trek. Because in many ways Andromeda kind of reminds me of StarTrek Voyager in that you'er out there alone with little or no backup to call on much like Janeway and her crew were in the Delta Quadrant.
If you want a more fair comparison: Star Trek: Picard was often more like the MET but with better writing and characters.
Well I hadn' twatched Picard yet so couldn' tcompare it withthat I compared it with something I had seen that felt closest to it. Bu tyou're right about Shepard in that they were basically a James Bond in space with elements from different TV shows that have existedTIM kind o f reminds me o fthe Cigareete smoking man from X files. The Citdel and Mass Relays basically come out of Babylon 5. Als othe Reapers are just another name for Star Trek's Borg. I could go on but I think you get my point
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 18, 2020 19:19:39 GMT
M etoo tbh. It reall yfelt like it was young people who were trying t osurvive in a hostile place and were scrambling to do so and somehow making it work. It kind of felt more real to me than the trilogy did. I know right, maybe a lot of people are not in touch with younger people, especially a bit nervous or unsure about what they are supposed to do -ones? Most of us have stumbled in the dark, sometimes literally, and came out better because of what happened, what led to the outcome. Learn the ropes. Get up from nobody to someone who did something good to help. Yeah and that's why I liked Ryder they felt so nervous about taking on such a big job and filling the shoes of their father but I liked how that little by little they got their head down and made an effort to get it done and slowly as the story goes on gains more and more confident that "hey maybe I can do this". I certainly got that feeling anyway especially as in that last level Ryder had to kick Kett ass without SAM's help due to SAM being compromised itself.
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Post by kalreegar on Dec 18, 2020 19:28:54 GMT
If anyone really thinks MeA is well-written, it' probably because immature/underdeveloped aesthetic tastes. That's like claiming that mcdonald burgers are gourmet delicacies or that kansas city is a remarkable artistic destination. Come on. Btw I think many are simply in bad faith. Delusional. They deeply HATE HATE HATE Mass Effect for the ending and the emotional trauma it has caused them, and they would say anything to denigrate it, even that the sky is green or that donkeys fly or that MEA is a far better game with awesome and realistic writing.
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Post by Sondergaard on Dec 18, 2020 19:53:27 GMT
From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons) is sub-par by a long shot. There is a LOT that they got wrong. Animations were better in ME1, for instance. Humans look all weird and frog-eyed. They have slow talking Salarians - and even when they are not in a forced SJW moments, they talk like regular people and not like Salarians. I also cannot get over "female" Krogan that sound like dudes wearing lipstick that talk with a California lisp. The Kett or whatever they are called look an awful lot like Collector drop-ins. Angarans look like chewed bubble-gum and have muscles and masses of flesh in places that make no sense physiologically. Aliens can look alien and not look like about a hundred and fifty pounds of chewed bubble gum. The story / plot is pretty boring, if not just a snoozefest, yet we have to include some kind of genetics stuff in there just to tie back to the OT. Ancient bad guys (Remnant?) made "golden worlds" less habitable to ..... humans or Angarans? with technology that could terraform pretty much any world, but luckily we can unlock it with a sudoku puzzle. Given the technology of the OT, we can't get to Andromeda - there are no planets between galaxies to discharge our drive cores on. So, what do we do, build up speed and glide out there in zero G? (Which would, by definition, be sub-light speed, btw). We really need better writers - for plot, story and even characters. Speaking of characters, I'm just not a Ryder fan. It's not that they are a couple of feet shorter than Commander Shepard, I just hate the character. They've got no machismo. If Ryder were to die in a tire fire I would not shed a tear, or care, in the slightest, at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like pretty much ALL of the characters. There are so many dumb conversations and no consequences to choices or actions that there is literally no point in playing the game for me. The very idea of stealing resources away from the coming Reaper War to fund and build the Andromeda Initiative reeks of retconning and is frankly insulting. I understand that this was a ploy to avoid the OT ending fiasco, but I think that a series like Mass Effect should stick to their lore. Sure, tech can change and advance, and so can the lore, but do it right. Otherwise, it smells of space magic. Did we bring along a bunch of Eezo mining equipment with us, or are we forgoing EVERYTHING that made the Mass Effect have an effect on mass? Given the poor reception of Andromeda, I'm not sure that they want to (or should) include it or tie it in with the next game.
Funny that the last time I checked MEA was the best rated game of the series on Steam according to players.
I got news for MET story wasn't exactly great or original by any stretch either it's basically What if James Bond was the lead in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5 with some BSG elements thrown in for good measure. Since I got all the James Bond movies, DS9, B5, and BSG and I have gotten older I don't have the want and much less the desire or even the basic need to play such in such a stupid juvenile power fantasy. I want to play an explorer type character who gets into action like Sara Ryder over stupid action hero like Jane Shepard.
If I want to watch James Bond in space I'll watch fucking Moonraker and save myself 80-100 hours of my life.
Honestly I think the main reason for the success of the MET was the lack of any good new space based sci-fi TV shows and movies when the first game debuted because the only major new sci-fi franchise was Halo and now that we in "The Silver Age Sci-Fi TV" I think it's why ME and Halo feel like their struggling to get going. Because we have more sci-fi TV and movies than ever some of it light-years ahead of anything being done and is told much better than the best stories in video games.
Here we go again. 'Andromeda was bad? No! The OT was worse! Ha Ha! Argue your way out of that!'. No.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 18, 2020 20:59:39 GMT
Funny that the last time I checked MEA was the best rated game of the series on Steam according to players.
I got news for MET story wasn't exactly great or original by any stretch either it's basically What if James Bond was the lead in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5 with some BSG elements thrown in for good measure. Since I got all the James Bond movies, DS9, B5, and BSG and I have gotten older I don't have the want and much less the desire or even the basic need to play such in such a stupid juvenile power fantasy. I want to play an explorer type character who gets into action like Sara Ryder over stupid action hero like Jane Shepard.
If I want to watch James Bond in space I'll watch fucking Moonraker and save myself 80-100 hours of my life.
Honestly I think the main reason for the success of the MET was the lack of any good new space based sci-fi TV shows and movies when the first game debuted because the only major new sci-fi franchise was Halo and now that we in "The Silver Age Sci-Fi TV" I think it's why ME and Halo feel like their struggling to get going. Because we have more sci-fi TV and movies than ever some of it light-years ahead of anything being done and is told much better than the best stories in video games.
Here we go again. 'Andromeda was bad? No! The OT was worse! Ha Ha! Argue your way out of that!'. No. Lol, pretty much how it goes between the MET Crowd Vs. the MEA Crowd. Then again, they are both equally as bad as each other.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 18, 2020 21:10:11 GMT
All I ask is a Geth duo of a Geth Infiltrator and a Geth Engineer. What would be better is the main character is able to ride on the back of a geth armature instead of using a Mako like vehicle to get around.
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Post by Phantom on Dec 18, 2020 21:18:15 GMT
All I ask is a Geth duo of a Geth Infiltrator and a Geth Engineer. What would be better is the main character is able to ride on the back of a geth armature instead of using a Mako like vehicle to get around. that would be funny as hell if that was a legit option for the main character to do that
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Post by Zemgus on Dec 18, 2020 22:13:32 GMT
I want Shepard with mostly new companions. Maybe the game takes place 100 years after ME3.
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Post by Kabraxal on Dec 18, 2020 23:59:39 GMT
If anyone really thinks MeA is well-written, it' probably because immature/underdeveloped aesthetic tastes. That's like claiming that mcdonald burgers are gourmet delicacies or that kansas city is a remarkable artistic destination. Come on. Btw I think many are simply in bad faith. Delusional. They deeply HATE HATE HATE Mass Effect for the ending and the emotional trauma it has caused them, and they would say anything to denigrate it, even that the sky is green or that donkeys fly or that MEA is a far better game with awesome and realistic writing. So no good rebuttal? Noted. I love MET. ME2 is still my favourite in the franchise ahead of Andromeda, so clearly it isn’t bias or “fooling myself” or whatever junk you’re trying to pull. I just recognise the faults in the trilogy and many many lines of dialogue are fairly unrealistic. Doesn’t mean I hate the games, but this nonsensical bullshit that Andromeda’s writing is less realistic is just laughable. Sorry if the truth hurts.
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Post by Adia on Dec 19, 2020 0:23:37 GMT
I voted No. Shepard's story and that of his/her companions is over and frankly, returning characters rarely go well in BioWare games. Also, imagine a new Mass Effect game starring Shepard and your most beloved crew but now written by the gang that brought us MEA and Anthem. It will be like a boxer returning to the ring after ten years of retirement - you sadly watch the spectacle and really wish he would have remained retired and be remembered as the icon he was then, not the shadow of himself that he is now. Anyway, after the reaper threat was dealt with, anything that could happen to Shepard and the team would probably feel anticlimactic. I really don't want Mass Effect go down the same road of continuous escalation as the recent Dragon Age games, where an ancient evil out to destroy the world is replaced with a more ancient, greater evil that also wants to destroy the world but in a more spectacular fashion (the one exception being DA2). One of the few interesting plots I could see Shepard in would be something along the lines of "Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom", but I don't trust BioWare to come up with that kind of story. Most likely they'll advance the Milky Way timeline for over 600 years to build a connection to Andromeda and go from there. That said, I'm at peace with that and will happily remember Shepard and his team as the icons they were. ME:A story and characters were written in a very short time by Bioware's DLC team with Mac Walters of all people directing it. They clearly didn't have enough time to edit or really think about some of their work. It's filled with unfiltered ideas. As with Anthem, I mean it suffered some of the same issues. As long as they learned from their mistakes, given enough time, and actually dedicate it properly, I'm hopeful they can actually succeed bringing the old crew back.
Villains tend to be bigger threats in sequels and the stakes get higher. It's almost unavoidable. With ME5 I think we're looking at a cross galaxies threat. So it must be bigger than even the freaking reapers. And I think they're doing a good job in DA, at least with the way they're introducing new villain's.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 19, 2020 0:48:24 GMT
If anyone really thinks MeA is well-written, it' probably because immature/underdeveloped aesthetic tastes. That's like claiming that mcdonald burgers are gourmet delicacies or that kansas city is a remarkable artistic destination. Come on. Btw I think many are simply in bad faith. Delusional. They deeply HATE HATE HATE Mass Effect for the ending and the emotional trauma it has caused them, and they would say anything to denigrate it, even that the sky is green or that donkeys fly or that MEA is a far better game with awesome and realistic writing. So no good rebuttal? Noted. I love MET. ME2 is still my favourite in the franchise ahead of Andromeda, so clearly it isn’t bias or “fooling myself” or whatever junk you’re trying to pull. I just recognise the faults in the trilogy and many many lines of dialogue are fairly unrealistic. Doesn’t mean I hate the games, but this nonsensical bullshit that Andromeda’s writing is less realistic is just laughable. Sorry if the truth hurts. Yeah I agree I'd say it's more that Andromeda decided to take a more uplifting upbeat direction which i fthe series was going to continue it needed to take that route. The trilog yis still on eof the bes tgaming experiences I'v e ever had and it will take one hell of a gaming experience to top it if that's even possible. So I'm not criticising the trilogy in any way it's more I felt that for me Biowaer took the right direction to do what they did to keep the series going. Granted I agree tha tAndromeda has it's flaws and wasn' texecuted as well as perhaps it could have been but it was the right direction for the series.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 19, 2020 0:50:22 GMT
With ME5 I think we're looking at a cross galaxies threat. So it must be bigger than even the freaking reapers. I hope not. All around power grab in the Milky Way with a lot of factions attempting to set up a new status quo would be far more interesting than "bigger ancient evil awakens". Post Reaper War Milky Way is ripe for intrigue, opportunism, backstabbing, but also high heroics, morality and justice. Isn't that the driving force of every mythos? And the most beautiful thing is that it's already set up. You don't actually have to do anything to justify it, or explain it. We've established we're already in shambles.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 19, 2020 0:52:13 GMT
I voted No. Shepard's story and that of his/her companions is over and frankly, returning characters rarely go well in BioWare games. Also, imagine a new Mass Effect game starring Shepard and your most beloved crew but now written by the gang that brought us MEA and Anthem. It will be like a boxer returning to the ring after ten years of retirement - you sadly watch the spectacle and really wish he would have remained retired and be remembered as the icon he was then, not the shadow of himself that he is now. Anyway, after the reaper threat was dealt with, anything that could happen to Shepard and the team would probably feel anticlimactic. I really don't want Mass Effect go down the same road of continuous escalation as the recent Dragon Age games, where an ancient evil out to destroy the world is replaced with a more ancient, greater evil that also wants to destroy the world but in a more spectacular fashion (the one exception being DA2). One of the few interesting plots I could see Shepard in would be something along the lines of "Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom", but I don't trust BioWare to come up with that kind of story. Most likely they'll advance the Milky Way timeline for over 600 years to build a connection to Andromeda and go from there. That said, I'm at peace with that and will happily remember Shepard and his team as the icons they were. ME:A story and characters were written in a very short time by Bioware's DLC team with Mac Walters of all people directing it. They clearly didn't have enough time to edit or really think about some of their work. It's filled with unfiltered ideas. As with Anthem, I mean it suffered some of the same issues. As long as they learned from their mistakes, given enough time, and actually dedicate it properly, I'm hopeful they can actually succeed bringing the old crew back.
Villains tend to be bigger threats in sequels and the stakes get higher. It's almost unavoidable. With ME5 I think we're looking at a cross galaxies threat. So it must be bigger than even the freaking reapers. And I think they're doing a good job in DA, at least with the way they're introducing new villain's. Perhaps but one things for sure I'm going to wait and see how the story goes befoer I commit to anything.
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Post by Adia on Dec 19, 2020 0:56:08 GMT
With ME5 I think we're looking at a cross galaxies threat. So it must be bigger than even the freaking reapers. I hope not. All around power grab in the Milky Way with a lot of factions attempting to set up a new status quo would be far more interesting than "bigger ancient evil awakens". Post Reaper War Milky Way is ripe for intrigue, opportunism, backstabbing, but also high heroics, morality and justice. Isn't that the driving force of every mythos? And the most beautiful thing is that it's already set up. You don't actually have to do anything to justify it, or explain it. We've established we're already in shambles. I mean that sounds interesting as well. I just think because of the supposedly connection with Andromeda, and considering the Kett aren't native to it as well, they might visit the milky way eventually and that be might tie both games together, after all Ryder has already faced the Kett once. But it'll be interesting where they take the story regardless. I just hope we get a shuttle this time.
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Post by NotN7 on Dec 19, 2020 0:59:04 GMT
With ME5 I think we're looking at a cross galaxies threat. So it must be bigger than even the freaking reapers. I hope not. All around power grab in the Milky Way with a lot of factions attempting to set up a new status quo would be far more interesting than "bigger ancient evil awakens". Post Reaper War Milky Way is ripe for intrigue, opportunism, backstabbing, but also high heroics, morality and justice. Isn't that the driving force of every mythos? And the most beautiful thing is that it's already set up. You don't actually have to do anything to justify it, or explain it. We've established we're already in shambles. And may the Volus prevail! and rule the galaxy its their time to shine .
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Post by SirSourpuss on Dec 19, 2020 1:04:31 GMT
And may the Volus prevail! and rule the galaxy its their time to shine . Maybe. Provided the Volus economy hasn't been wrecked by the Reaper War, they may bankroll the rebuilding of the galaxy, putting them in the advantageous position to control everything through finance.
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Post by dazk on Dec 19, 2020 1:32:35 GMT
Ryder's story is unfinished for me too. Admittedly, that's because I uninstalled the game after 40hrs and have never went back as I found the characters and story insultingly 3rd rate. I didn't care what happened to them, the kett, the arks, the Initiative or anything else in that game. From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons) is sub-par by a long shot. There is a LOT that they got wrong. Animations were better in ME1, for instance. Humans look all weird and frog-eyed. They have slow talking Salarians - and even when they are not in a forced SJW moments, they talk like regular people and not like Salarians. I also cannot get over "female" Krogan that sound like dudes wearing lipstick that talk with a California lisp. The Kett or whatever they are called look an awful lot like Collector drop-ins. Angarans look like chewed bubble-gum and have muscles and masses of flesh in places that make no sense physiologically. Aliens can look alien and not look like about a hundred and fifty pounds of chewed bubble gum. The story / plot is pretty boring, if not just a snoozefest, yet we have to include some kind of genetics stuff in there just to tie back to the OT. Ancient bad guys (Remnant?) made "golden worlds" less habitable to ..... humans or Angarans? with technology that could terraform pretty much any world, but luckily we can unlock it with a sudoku puzzle. Given the technology of the OT, we can't get to Andromeda - there are no planets between galaxies to discharge our drive cores on. So, what do we do, build up speed and glide out there in zero G? (Which would, by definition, be sub-light speed, btw). We really need better writers - for plot, story and even characters. Speaking of characters, I'm just not a Ryder fan. It's not that they are a couple of feet shorter than Commander Shepard, I just hate the character. They've got no machismo. If Ryder were to die in a tire fire I would not shed a tear, or care, in the slightest, at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like pretty much ALL of the characters. There are so many dumb conversations and no consequences to choices or actions that there is literally no point in playing the game for me. The very idea of stealing resources away from the coming Reaper War to fund and build the Andromeda Initiative reeks of retconning and is frankly insulting. I understand that this was a ploy to avoid the OT ending fiasco, but I think that a series like Mass Effect should stick to their lore. Sure, tech can change and advance, and so can the lore, but do it right. Otherwise, it smells of space magic. Did we bring along a bunch of Eezo mining equipment with us, or are we forgoing EVERYTHING that made the Mass Effect have an effect on mass? Given the poor reception of Andromeda, I'm not sure that they want to (or should) include it or tie it in with the next game. So you have never played the game and yet you have so many negative comments about it? Yes on release animations were terrible and some stuff was bugged but there were 10 patches that fixed the majority of stuff. Having played it over 10 times and for nearly 1,000 hours I can say I honestly loved the game and would very much like a sequel and do not agree with many of your assertions re MEA. For example I never once looked at a Kett or their part in the story and thought hey they are just collector drop ins, the Collectors role in MET is nothing like the role the Kett play in MEA.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 19, 2020 2:19:51 GMT
From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons) is sub-par by a long shot. There is a LOT that they got wrong. Animations were better in ME1, for instance. Humans look all weird and frog-eyed. They have slow talking Salarians - and even when they are not in a forced SJW moments, they talk like regular people and not like Salarians. I also cannot get over "female" Krogan that sound like dudes wearing lipstick that talk with a California lisp. The Kett or whatever they are called look an awful lot like Collector drop-ins. Angarans look like chewed bubble-gum and have muscles and masses of flesh in places that make no sense physiologically. Aliens can look alien and not look like about a hundred and fifty pounds of chewed bubble gum. The story / plot is pretty boring, if not just a snoozefest, yet we have to include some kind of genetics stuff in there just to tie back to the OT. Ancient bad guys (Remnant?) made "golden worlds" less habitable to ..... humans or Angarans? with technology that could terraform pretty much any world, but luckily we can unlock it with a sudoku puzzle. Given the technology of the OT, we can't get to Andromeda - there are no planets between galaxies to discharge our drive cores on. So, what do we do, build up speed and glide out there in zero G? (Which would, by definition, be sub-light speed, btw). We really need better writers - for plot, story and even characters. Speaking of characters, I'm just not a Ryder fan. It's not that they are a couple of feet shorter than Commander Shepard, I just hate the character. They've got no machismo. If Ryder were to die in a tire fire I would not shed a tear, or care, in the slightest, at all. Don't get me wrong, I don't like pretty much ALL of the characters. There are so many dumb conversations and no consequences to choices or actions that there is literally no point in playing the game for me. The very idea of stealing resources away from the coming Reaper War to fund and build the Andromeda Initiative reeks of retconning and is frankly insulting. I understand that this was a ploy to avoid the OT ending fiasco, but I think that a series like Mass Effect should stick to their lore. Sure, tech can change and advance, and so can the lore, but do it right. Otherwise, it smells of space magic. Did we bring along a bunch of Eezo mining equipment with us, or are we forgoing EVERYTHING that made the Mass Effect have an effect on mass? Given the poor reception of Andromeda, I'm not sure that they want to (or should) include it or tie it in with the next game. So you have never played the game and yet you have so many negative comments about it? Yes on release animations were terrible and some stuff was bugged but there were 10 patches that fixed the majority of stuff. Having played it over 10 times and for nearly 1,000 hours I can say I honestly loved the game and would very much like a sequel and do not agree with many of your assertions re MEA. For example I never once looked at a Kett or their part in the story and thought hey they are just collector drop ins, the Collectors role in MET is nothing like the role the Kett play in MEA. Agreed the yaer totaall ydifferent. The Collectors were cloned husks programmed via implants to do the Reapers bidding. The Ke ton the othe rhan dae rconditioned into believing as they do through their exaltation facilities
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 19, 2020 9:07:57 GMT
From what I gathered of the game (bear in mind, I refuse to purchase it for reasons).... So you have never played the game and yet you have so many negative comments about it? It usually seems to boil down to this ... a shame really.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 19, 2020 11:23:53 GMT
So you have never played the game and yet you have so many negative comments about it? It usually seems to boil down to this ... a shame really. Yeah I'v enot onl ygo ti tbu tdone over 20 playthroughs of it. Finished one recentl yin fact before picking up HZD for my first run of that
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Post by traks on Dec 19, 2020 11:34:11 GMT
With currently just 16 of 82 votes for a Shepard return, this question seems to be settled. It could be interesting though to switch the question in another poll to "do you expect Shepard back"?
The only way I could imagine Shepard back in a satisfying way would be, if they expand on the refuse ending in the trilogy in a way like this: After Starbrat enlightens Shepard about the options, Shep is able to contact either Hackett or his/her squadmates to talk the matter through (like many other decisions in the 3 games) and they jointly come to the conclusion that they have to find another way (which then would be the story of a sequel). In the other three options - even though I'm personally a destroyer - I consider Shep's story (defeating the Reapers) to be finished.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 19, 2020 11:37:36 GMT
I hope not. All around power grab in the Milky Way with a lot of factions attempting to set up a new status quo would be far more interesting than "bigger ancient evil awakens". Post Reaper War Milky Way is ripe for intrigue, opportunism, backstabbing, but also high heroics, morality and justice. Isn't that the driving force of every mythos? And the most beautiful thing is that it's already set up. You don't actually have to do anything to justify it, or explain it. We've established we're already in shambles. I mean that sounds interesting as well. I just think because of the supposedly connection with Andromeda, and considering the Kett aren't native to it as well, they might visit the milky way eventually and that be might tie both games together, after all Ryder has already faced the Kett once. But it'll be interesting where they take the story regardless. I just hope we get a shuttle this time. I think it's moer the Kett aren't native to Heleus rather than Andromeda. I think it's obvious they come from somewhere else in Andromeda as their tech in general isn' t that much more advanced than the Angara or us.It's why SAM is able to hack it.
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