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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 18, 2021 23:20:27 GMT
Indeed. There's a handful of people convinced Andromeda is going to play such a huge role in ME4- and yes, some of the concept art and other theories are convincing. However, the direction BioWare took and is headed down simply does not leave much space for an invigorating ME4 with strong elements from Andromeda included. It's either the MW or Andromeda because any mergers at this point is just plain silly and will cause more problems than solve; Andromeda is a failure on almost every level, BioWare knows this and frankly abandoned it. So MW it is. And in turn abandoned people who liked Andromeda. If that's the direction they'll go, then I won't buy Mass Effect 5. I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 18, 2021 23:41:35 GMT
And in turn abandoned people who liked Andromeda. If that's the direction they'll go, then I won't buy Mass Effect 5. I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. I just have a feeling that the devs will at best make a token reference to Andromeda while focusing mostly on the Milky Way.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 0:03:56 GMT
And in turn abandoned people who liked Andromeda. If that's the direction they'll go, then I won't buy Mass Effect 5. I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. which makes a lot of sense and is feasible within the lore.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 19, 2021 0:53:07 GMT
And in turn abandoned people who liked Andromeda. If that's the direction they'll go, then I won't buy Mass Effect 5. I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. Maybe showing Andromeda was done just to give MEA fans a sliver of hope that something from MEA will show up in the next game. I have no idea how they will link both galaxies together let alone possibly having anyone from Andromeda in the Milky Way. I know they put in the geth I can see for miles and miles telescope crap. Maybe Bioware will use some hocus pocus crap to have characters from MEA in the Milky Way. Maybe the characters will have to tap their heels together saying there's no place like the Milky Way, there's no place like the Milky Way, and poof, they show up in the Milky Way.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 1:13:10 GMT
I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. Maybe showing Andromeda was done just to give MEA fans a sliver of hope that something from MEA will show up in the next game. I have no idea how they will link both galaxies together let alone possibly having anyone from Andromeda in the Milky Way. I know they put in the geth I can see for miles and miles telescope crap. Maybe Bioware will use some hocus pocus crap to have characters from MEA in the Milky Way. Maybe the characters will have to tap their heels together saying there's no place like the Milky Way, there's no place like the Milky Way, and poof, they show up in the Milky Way. We really don't have to wonder about this sort of thing, we already have our answers. The AI already was able to use exisisting Mass Effect technology to be able to travel to the Andromeda galaxy in the first place. And now that we know that is possible and since we know that Mass Relays are just that technology on a much larger/ faster scale there is nothing to stop the Iniative from building a relay in Heleus and then connect it to the Citadel...like the Reapers did. The only question which remains then is 'does the species of the AI have the technical knowledge to do so.'
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 19, 2021 1:42:17 GMT
I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. I just have a feeling that the devs will at best make a token reference to Andromeda while focusing mostly on the Milky Way. I have tha tfeelin gtoo and it worries me
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 19, 2021 2:02:01 GMT
And in turn abandoned people who liked Andromeda. If that's the direction they'll go, then I won't buy Mass Effect 5. I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. *shrug* I hardly think a two second interval in an announcement trailer showing two galaxies means squat. Even with devs saying it does. They say a lot of things. At best, like others have mentioned, there will be a reference to Andromeda but majority of ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. They're stringing Andromeda fans along for the extra dollars. They are not in a position to pander to Andromeda fans alone. There's simply not enough of you to bring home the big bucks.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2021 2:41:06 GMT
I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. *shrug* I hardly think a two second interval in an announcement trailer showing two galaxies means squat. Even with devs saying it does. They say a lot of things. At best, like others have mentioned, there will be a reference to Andromeda but majority of ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. They're stringing Andromeda fans along for the extra dollars. They are not in a position to pander to Andromeda fans alone. There's simply not enough of you to bring home the big bucks. Honestly making any guesses at what the game is going to be from that trailer means squat. They would be barely into development and that video is probably all they really have done outside of vague overarching design.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 2:45:29 GMT
*shrug* I hardly think a two second interval in an announcement trailer showing two galaxies means squat. Even with devs saying it does. They say a lot of things. At best, like others have mentioned, there will be a reference to Andromeda but majority of ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. They're stringing Andromeda fans along for the extra dollars. They are not in a position to pander to Andromeda fans alone. There's simply not enough of you to bring home the big bucks. Honestly making any guesses at what the game is going to be from that trailer means squat. They would be barely into development and that video is probably all they really have done outside of vague overarching design. to mention and add all that trailer means is right now is to convey mood and overall vision of what they HOPE to achieve. We all know how much that vision can change between now and say...2025.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 19, 2021 4:06:04 GMT
I don't know that I believe jrpN7 says. It was clear that both galaxies were shown in the trailers. Devs outright said that was no accident. I don't know how they'll handle it but they seem to be linking the galaxies in some way. *shrug* I hardly think a two second interval in an announcement trailer showing two galaxies means squat. Even with devs saying it does. They say a lot of things. At best, like others have mentioned, there will be a reference to Andromeda but majority of ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. They're stringing Andromeda fans along for the extra dollars. They are not in a position to pander to Andromeda fans alone. There's simply not enough of you to bring home the big bucks. Mayb emaybe no tbut the ycan forget abou ttaking m ybucks if they're only stringing me along because I won' t buy it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Mar 19, 2021 4:06:32 GMT
ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 19, 2021 6:57:37 GMT
Yea it basically is the whole story. They wasted 4 years trying to make No Man's Sky, and realized 18 months from release that they literally couldn't do it, and had no game at that point to ship because they spent their entire dev cycle trying to force a terrible idea to work. the game i pumped 320 hours into has determined this to be a false hood. Congrats, you like Minecraft in space. That is not what Mass Effect should ever be. It is a terrible idea for Mass Effect.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 7:30:42 GMT
the game i pumped 320 hours into has determined this to be a false hood. Congrats, you like Minecraft in space. That is not what Mass Effect should ever be. It is a terrible idea for Mass Effect. I will probably regret this but pray tell what, exactly, does MEA and Minecraft have in common? Also keeping in mind that Minecraft is often cited as being the most popular video game of all time.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 19, 2021 8:28:33 GMT
Congrats, you like Minecraft in space. That is not what Mass Effect should ever be. It is a terrible idea for Mass Effect. I will probably regret this but pray tell what, exactly, does MEA and Minecraft have in common? Also keeping in mind that Minecraft is often cited as being the most popular video game of all time. "the game i pumped 320 hours into has determined this to be a false hood." This was your response, to the facts I stated about MEA's development, as given to us by Jason. Your statement makes no sense unless you were referring to No Man's Sky, which is naturally what I assumed. You can like Andromeda as much as you want, it does not change the fact that they wasted 4 years trying to make No Man's Sky, then realized with 18 months to go they had to do something else. These are facts, good sir. You liking the game does not mean it wasn't cobbled together in 18 months. People like Dragon Age 2 as well, and that is the exact same story. Montreal did a decent job for 18 months of work. But they don't get a pass for wasting almost half a decade on stupid crap, when instead they could have focused and spent 5 years working the Andromeda we got to a mirror finish.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 8:34:10 GMT
I will probably regret this but pray tell what, exactly, does MEA and Minecraft have in common? Also keeping in mind that Minecraft is often cited as being the most popular video game of all time. "the game i pumped 320 hours into has determined this to be a false hood." This was your response, to the facts I stated about MEA's development, as given to us by Jason. Your statement makes no sense unless you were referring to No Man's Sky, which is naturally what I assumed. You can like Andromeda as much as you want, it does not change the fact that they wasted 4 years trying to make No Man's Sky, then realized with 18 months to go they had to do something else. These are facts, good sir. You liking the game does not mean it wasn't cobbled together in 18 months. People like Dragon Age 2 as well, and that is the exact same story. Montreal did a decent job for 18 months of work. But they don't get a pass for wasting almost half a decade on stupid crap, when instead they could have focused and spent 5 years working the Andromeda we got to a mirror finish. I ultimatley do not think it matters. All the matters is the final product and the quality of the final product. Sure millage may vary from person to person on just what a *quality* product is but at the end of the day it is what it is. At the end of the day they spent x amount of time trying to make certain gameplay features work...at the end of the day they decided they did not...and they tried something else...which is amazing how well it did work. I do not think this story is uncommon within the world of video games and nor can we actually be sure if they hadn't wasted their time that the game would've turned out any better...indeed it might've even turned out worse.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 19, 2021 9:28:23 GMT
"the game i pumped 320 hours into has determined this to be a false hood." This was your response, to the facts I stated about MEA's development, as given to us by Jason. Your statement makes no sense unless you were referring to No Man's Sky, which is naturally what I assumed. You can like Andromeda as much as you want, it does not change the fact that they wasted 4 years trying to make No Man's Sky, then realized with 18 months to go they had to do something else. These are facts, good sir. You liking the game does not mean it wasn't cobbled together in 18 months. People like Dragon Age 2 as well, and that is the exact same story. Montreal did a decent job for 18 months of work. But they don't get a pass for wasting almost half a decade on stupid crap, when instead they could have focused and spent 5 years working the Andromeda we got to a mirror finish. I ultimatley do not think it matters. All the matters is the final product and the quality of the final product. Sure millage may vary from person to person on just what a *quality* product is but at the end of the day it is what it is. At the end of the day they spent x amount of time trying to make certain gameplay features work...at the end of the day they decided they did not...and they tried something else...which is amazing how well it did work. I do not think this story is uncommon within the world of video games and nor can we actually be sure if they hadn't wasted their time that the game would've turned out any better...indeed it might've even turned out worse. I highly doubt the outcome, from Bioware's perspective, could have really been any worse. Publicly flogged for a poorly constructed product that, in EA's own words, didn't meet sales expectations. All support cancelled and the series was put "on ice" until Anthem imploded from the same mistakes. It absolutely does matter, because no matter how much folks like Andromeda, it didn't achieve the goals it was made for, it objectively failed as far as the company is concerned. More time to develop, is never bad, when you have a clear vision. Bioware just has no vision. They flounder around like waterless fish for years at a time until their feet get put to fire then scramble out sub-par products. That is their current MO until they stop doing that. THAT, I don't believe, is common in the industry. I think most studios know what their game's vision is, weather or not they always achieve them is totally different.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2021 12:43:52 GMT
I ultimatley do not think it matters. All the matters is the final product and the quality of the final product. Sure millage may vary from person to person on just what a *quality* product is but at the end of the day it is what it is. At the end of the day they spent x amount of time trying to make certain gameplay features work...at the end of the day they decided they did not...and they tried something else...which is amazing how well it did work. I do not think this story is uncommon within the world of video games and nor can we actually be sure if they hadn't wasted their time that the game would've turned out any better...indeed it might've even turned out worse. I highly doubt the outcome, from Bioware's perspective, could have really been any worse. Publicly flogged for a poorly constructed product that, in EA's own words, didn't meet sales expectations. All support cancelled and the series was put "on ice" until Anthem imploded from the same mistakes. It absolutely does matter, because no matter how much folks like Andromeda, it didn't achieve the goals it was made for, it objectively failed as far as the company is concerned. More time to develop, is never bad, when you have a clear vision. Bioware just has no vision. They flounder around like waterless fish for years at a time until their feet get put to fire then scramble out sub-par products. That is their current MO until they stop doing that. THAT, I don't believe, is common in the industry. I think most studios know what their game's vision is, weather or not they always achieve them is totally different. Where did EA ever say that Andromeda didn't meet sales expectations? I have never seen that said about Andromeda from EA. Plenty of armchair executives online have made that comment, but I haven't seen any official comment from Andrew Wilson or anyone else with a position at EA. Now they said Anthem didn't meet sales expectations, but which set of expectations I am always left curious about for they changed the expectations for that game multiple times over the years and I think twice during the open beta stage. There is no way anyone online can make the claim that it "objectively failed" because we don't have the information EA does. Unless you can show me the charts with attachment rates, complete sales breakdowns of digital and physical copies, complete MTX sales numbers for MP, the exact budget for development, average playtime per player, and probably more things that I cannot thing of. You are just making assumptions on at best a handful of statements that aren't always from people that would even have the entire picture either. I do find it funny that not having DLC means they didn't support the game. They patched the game for six months and left it in a working state that I would expect from any game and launch and very few meet that criteria. What they didn't do was release additional content for the game, so they didn't release single player monetization which I thought people wanted EA to stop doing anyway because it is always finished content that just gets cut to gouge players for more money. Not that it could be unfinished content that they decide to finish post-release.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 19, 2021 15:18:22 GMT
I highly doubt the outcome, from Bioware's perspective, could have really been any worse. Publicly flogged for a poorly constructed product that, in EA's own words, didn't meet sales expectations. All support cancelled and the series was put "on ice" until Anthem imploded from the same mistakes. It absolutely does matter, because no matter how much folks like Andromeda, it didn't achieve the goals it was made for, it objectively failed as far as the company is concerned. More time to develop, is never bad, when you have a clear vision. Bioware just has no vision. They flounder around like waterless fish for years at a time until their feet get put to fire then scramble out sub-par products. That is their current MO until they stop doing that. THAT, I don't believe, is common in the industry. I think most studios know what their game's vision is, weather or not they always achieve them is totally different. Where did EA ever say that Andromeda didn't meet sales expectations? I have never seen that said about Andromeda from EA. Plenty of armchair executives online have made that comment, but I haven't seen any official comment from Andrew Wilson or anyone else with a position at EA. Now they said Anthem didn't meet sales expectations, but which set of expectations I am always left curious about for they changed the expectations for that game multiple times over the years and I think twice during the open beta stage. There is no way anyone online can make the claim that it "objectively failed" because we don't have the information EA does. Unless you can show me the charts with attachment rates, complete sales breakdowns of digital and physical copies, complete MTX sales numbers for MP, the exact budget for development, average playtime per player, and probably more things that I cannot thing of. You are just making assumptions on at best a handful of statements that aren't always from people that would even have the entire picture either. I do find it funny that not having DLC means they didn't support the game. They patched the game for six months and left it in a working state that I would expect from any game and launch and very few meet that criteria. What they didn't do was release additional content for the game, so they didn't release single player monetization which I thought people wanted EA to stop doing anyway because it is always finished content that just gets cut to gouge players for more money. Not that it could be unfinished content that they decide to finish post-release. EA literally assured their shareholder's that Andromeda was merely "a blip on Bioware's radar", and not indicative of the studios potential. That is about as damming a statement as a company can publicly make. Wake up man. EA was not happy about the final product. Yes, it failed, you know why it failed? because if it hadn't they would still be supporting it with updates, MTX's, DLCs etc, because EA wants to squeeze as much money out of every game that they possibly can. It literally does not matter if consumers hate it when they do that, that is not a counter argument. That is just what EA does. A company would never publicly put a franchise "on ice" if it was successful. Period. I don't understand why so many of you just refuse to acknowledge this basic business sense. You like Andromeda, so what. Most people didn't, and EA was disappointed.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 19, 2021 19:29:22 GMT
I highly doubt the outcome, from Bioware's perspective, could have really been any worse. Publicly flogged for a poorly constructed product that, in EA's own words, didn't meet sales expectations. All support cancelled and the series was put "on ice" until Anthem imploded from the same mistakes. It absolutely does matter, because no matter how much folks like Andromeda, it didn't achieve the goals it was made for, it objectively failed as far as the company is concerned. More time to develop, is never bad, when you have a clear vision. Bioware just has no vision. They flounder around like waterless fish for years at a time until their feet get put to fire then scramble out sub-par products. That is their current MO until they stop doing that. THAT, I don't believe, is common in the industry. I think most studios know what their game's vision is, weather or not they always achieve them is totally different. Where did EA ever say that Andromeda didn't meet sales expectations? I have never seen that said about Andromeda from EA. Plenty of armchair executives online have made that comment, but I haven't seen any official comment from Andrew Wilson or anyone else with a position at EA. Now they said Anthem didn't meet sales expectations, but which set of expectations I am always left curious about for they changed the expectations for that game multiple times over the years and I think twice during the open beta stage. There is no way anyone online can make the claim that it "objectively failed" because we don't have the information EA does. Unless you can show me the charts with attachment rates, complete sales breakdowns of digital and physical copies, complete MTX sales numbers for MP, the exact budget for development, average playtime per player, and probably more things that I cannot thing of. You are just making assumptions on at best a handful of statements that aren't always from people that would even have the entire picture either. I do find it funny that not having DLC means they didn't support the game. They patched the game for six months and left it in a working state that I would expect from any game and launch and very few meet that criteria. What they didn't do was release additional content for the game, so they didn't release single player monetization which I thought people wanted EA to stop doing anyway because it is always finished content that just gets cut to gouge players for more money. Not that it could be unfinished content that they decide to finish post-release. its going to both be really funny and annoying when DA 4 inevitably releases...and then does not get SP DLC or expansions. I find this a pretty likely outcome with the release of recent news. People hate live service. People hate DLC. People seem to even think any attemp at adding to a game is some kind of sacriledge...and yet these same people will try and convince the rest of us that DA4 has 'failed' when they'll get their way.
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 19, 2021 20:47:54 GMT
ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. Don't like it either.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Mar 19, 2021 20:58:27 GMT
Don't like it either. I'm sure Bioware thinks it's a fantastic idea.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 19, 2021 21:34:49 GMT
Don't like it either. I'm sure Bioware thinks it's a fantastic idea. Considering how all the old squaddies can be dead, they’re not wrong. It is a better idea, if just on a practical level. Unless you are referring to Ryder’s squaddies, but considering they said ME4 instead of ME5 I doubt they meant that.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 19, 2021 21:49:57 GMT
I get why some people just want the old crew and are closed off to the idea of having anything new, but personally, I wouldn’t look forward to the inevitable callbacks in every bit of dialogue so newcomers know that everyone’s a life-long friend. Remember when we did this Shepard? Remember when we did that? Ah, memories. Fuck off. One of my favorite things about these games is getting to build up a character and getting to know the roster and build the relationships and earn their camaraderie, and building a new history, rather than simply relying solely on the past as a supplement (or crutch, frankly). I can’t do that shit if it’s just Shepard and the same goddamn people.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Mar 19, 2021 21:59:04 GMT
Considering how all the old squaddies can be dead, they’re not wrong. It is a better idea, if just on a practical level. But they're canonically bringing back Liara. So they've already broken convention. From that point on, what does it matter? The contract has been voided. It's more practical to bring everyone back, than play the preferential treatment card. Do you think the Talimancers will take kind to that? If you're going to bring Liara back, you'll have to bring everyone back. Everything else is more negative, than positive, because everyone will be on Bioware's throat. Why bring back Liara and not Garrus? Why not Vega? Why not Samara? Why not Kasumi? Why not Grunt? I can understand with Legion and Thane, because they sorta die, regardless. And in the case of Ashley/Kaidan and Wrex/Mordin you'd have to pick one, unless Bioware changes canon so both Ash and Kaidan survive Virmire, which was planned to be in ME1 and that in turn changes the events of Tuchanka, as to have both Wrex and Mordin survive. For some butterfly effect reason.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2021 21:59:44 GMT
ME4 will be in the MW and with new squaddies. Then what's the point, right? If we're in the MW, Shepard has to be the central character. That's why anyone would care about the MW. If you take away what makes Shep special - and, to me, the squad is a huge part of it, then there's nothing. Even ME2 knew they couldn't stray too far from the prior squadmates. That's why Garrus and Tali were there, that's why Liara was featured in a dlc and that's why A/K has an appearance. To throw them out makes it not very ME and then who cares? I'm not so attached to the MEA squad. Cora, and maybe Vetra, are the only ones I really care about. I'd take the crew of the Tempest + Reyes over most of the squad. I mean the entire crew. In contrast, I'd take pretty much all of Shep's squadmates, and all of his crew. If they can figure a way to bring many of them in, including Shep and Ryder, I'd be happy. I'm not interested in yet another protag and not interested in a new set of squadmates.
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