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Post by fairdragon on Dec 24, 2020 12:56:54 GMT
For that I am sorry and you shouldn't read my next message. That is what i thought together. Nothing approved. Do you mean next as in the one up above or one you’re writing right now or something? If the former already read it and my post applied to yours too. No need to apologize though. For the record I think you’re probably right too. After all DA4 has ruined tons of things so far so may as well add that to the pyre. the one i wrote before this.
I am not sorry for what i wrote, but sorry that it triggers such a reaction in you. But I am happy that you all discuss so civilized, before here i was in a group that wasn't nice.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 24, 2020 15:22:30 GMT
For me Elven gods = old gods and we have the forgotten ones. There i have made an error. forgotten ones = old gods because of the dragon transformation (mythal is a dragon as the old gods. That only work if mythal is a forgotten one)
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 15:24:32 GMT
But on the topic of returning characters, imo the more returning characters the better. Thedas is heading for an apocalypse of epic proportions and I want to see what everyone is up to and what their role is (if any). So quantity over quality. I obviously disagree because i find it impossible to bring all characters back and do them justice. Also its a money / ressources thing what is point in making i don´t know another Loghain cameo if very few people will see it?
A good writer would finds ways to include or leave them for the story.
My point is all three had already enough screentime in series unlike other DAO characters who only appeared in one game.
So more Sten less Alistair. And please for the love of god no more Leliana.
I don´t dislike her but she doesn´t have appear in everything DA related.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 24, 2020 17:44:08 GMT
I don´t dislike her but she doesn´t have appear in everything DA related. Particularly as they have tied off her story in Trespasser with her handing over to her successors. Plus if she was killed in DAO and not made Divine in DAI, then the spirit that adopted her identity has already left for pastures new, so her story there is definitely over.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 18:05:45 GMT
Particularly as they have tied off her story in Trespasser with her handing over to her successors. Plus if she was killed in DAO and not made Divine in DAI, then the spirit that adopted her identity has already left for pastures new, so her story there is definitely over. Her time as major character is of course done but i even don´t want to appear as small cameo like DA 2 DLC Mark of Assassin.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 24, 2020 19:52:10 GMT
Her time as major character is of course done but i even don´t want to appear as small cameo like DA 2 DLC Mark of Assassin. As I say, I think you are worrying needlessly. Leliana's part in the story is done. We shall probably hear about her only in codices or conversations, but she will not appear personally. The same is true of Alistair. Morrigan, on the other hand, could well pop up again, unless of course the writers have taken a different direction with the story that no longer requires her presence.
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 20:14:48 GMT
Her time as major character is of course done but i even don´t want to appear as small cameo like DA 2 DLC Mark of Assassin. As I say, I think you are worrying needlessly. Leliana's part in the story is done. We shall probably hear about her only in codices or conversations, but she will not appear personally. The same is true of Alistair. Morrigan, on the other hand, could well pop up again, unless of course the writers have taken a different direction with the story that no longer requires her presence. You and I are so certain of this, but the writers can do literally anything they want. Like, I still don't get why Samson was kept alive no matter what in the world state where you can judge him when he absolutely dies in the siege of Haven if you side Mages. And most people sided mages. What was the purpose if not to somehow bring that pile of garbage into the next game?
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 20:20:41 GMT
As I say, I think you are worrying needlessly. Leliana's part in the story is done. We shall probably hear about her only in codices or conversations, but she will not appear personally. The same is true of Alistair. Oh really?!? I don´t think that you can ever rule out a Divine Leliana / Victoria or King Alistair Cameo. Sure but to be honest i would prefer if no one who could be a DAO romance shows up in DA 4 because Bioware have to explain why the warden is not arround.
Also what do to do with Kieran? If he exists he is no longer the Old God child so a normal boy or teenager.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 20:27:16 GMT
You and I are so certain of this, but the writers can do literally anything they want. Best example that they bring Varric off all people back as a major character / companion. (lets hope not)
This doesn´t make sense for me. I would get if you mean side with Templars but Samson shows up later at the Mythal temple. I am confused. Maybe this because of whole Lockdown Christmas or i simply don´t get it.
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 21:20:22 GMT
You and I are so certain of this, but the writers can do literally anything they want. Best example that they bring Varric off all people back as a major character / companion. (lets hope not)
This doesn´t make sense for me. I would get if you mean side with Templars but Samson shows up later at the Mythal temple. I am confused. Maybe this because of whole Lockdown Christmas or i simply don´t get it. if the Inquisitor recruited the mages during In Hushed Whispers., then Samson is there at the Temple of Mythal in the late game. He collapses, doesn't die, and gets brought to skyhold for judgement. None of the judgements you choose brings about his immediate death, and Cullen even starts the whole judgement with a speech about his crimes being too awful to even deserve death. When that is literally al I want to give him. The only reason I can think that they would block his execution is if they somehow want to use him narratively later. but he can be 100% dead if you side Templars, so we did they bother to do this? PS, you can turn Samson in during DA2 and he'll be hung by the Templars as a traitor. But this game state is ignored to bring him into DAI. Operation text
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 21:54:05 GMT
if the Inquisitor recruited the mages during In Hushed Whispers., then Samson is there at the Temple of Mythal in the late game. He collapses, doesn't die, and gets brought to skyhold for judgement. None of the judgements you choose brings about his immediate death, and Cullen even starts the whole judgement with a speech about his crimes being too awful to even deserve death. When that is literally al I want to give him. I still don´t get this point of yours "when he absolutely dies in the siege of Haven if you side Mages." Samson has an purpose in DAI but it makes sense that he survives Haven if the player picks the mages. But i get your point that we can´t executed him as an option. Samson even says that because of the Red Lyrium doesn´t live much long. I always assumed that when Trespasser starts that he have died. Do we really know this? Corypheus only mentioned that Samson had failed.
Again do we really know that Samson was among the ones who were hung? Don´t get me wrong this was the most likely outcome but
maybe Meredith or Cullen spared his life and put him in prison. Old videogame rule if we don´t know for sure if someone is dead and don´t even see well this person isn´t dead. So yeah i don´t criticize Bioware that much for this. Also like the irony that Samson became a much worse person than Meredith or if i quote Harvey Dent: "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 21:58:41 GMT
I still don´t get this point of yours "when he absolutely dies in the siege of Haven if you side Mages." Samson has an purpose in DAI but it makes sense that he survives Haven if the player picks the mages. I misspoke. I know Fiona dies if you side Templars and it made me think that Samson was the one that died if you sided mages, but it was actually some other dude. It is calpernia that is on the other side of the narrative coin. in do we really know that Samson was among the ones who were hung? Don´t get me wrong this was the most likely outcome but maybe Meredith or Cullen spared his life and put him in prison. I turned Samson in. I asked Cullen later what had happened to him. Cullen has a voiced line stating thus, "Didn't you see him hanging in the Gallows on your way in?" How else am I supposed to take this? you say if we don't see it on screen, it doesn't count. But then we all see that Leliana can die, and then brought back anyway. They redeemed themselves somewhat with the lyrium ghost situation in DAI. I just hate Samson so much especially now that I've been blocked from murdering him in two games.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 22:11:22 GMT
but it was actually some other dude. That dude was Knight Captain Denam.
I am pretty sure that Cullen said: "Didn´t you see them (all of conspirators) hanging in the Gallows on your way in?" So them not him.
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 22:19:10 GMT
turned Samson in. I asked Cullen later what had happened to him. Cullen has a voiced line stating thus, "Didn't you see him hanging in the Gallows on your way in?" I am pretty sure that Cullen said: "Didn´t you see them (all of conspirators) hanging in the Gallows on your way in?" So them not him. o_O What other conspirators were there to hang with Samson, and why would Samson not be included in that statement? Not that either of us have video footage of what he said. I just remember thinking it was cool to actually kill Samson, so I don't know why I remember it the way I did if I wasnt somehow certain I'd attained his death.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 22:28:30 GMT
o_O What other conspirators were there to hang with Samson My guess would be some unnamed templars and mages who Hawke didn´t kill. Don´t forget that Samson was the one who informed Cullen and his templars. So maybe Meredith spare him for this.
Sorry i couldn´t find a clip for this option. Edit: Could it be that you maybe confuse Samson with the mage Alain who definitely get killed?
Speaking of Samson: I only had his dialogue once but what do i have do in the Keep that Cullen said that Hawke vouched for Samson so that he can rejoin the Templars?
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 24, 2020 22:35:35 GMT
As I say, I think you are worrying needlessly. Leliana's part in the story is done. We shall probably hear about her only in codices or conversations, but she will not appear personally. The same is true of Alistair. Morrigan, on the other hand, could well pop up again, unless of course the writers have taken a different direction with the story that no longer requires her presence. Pretty much agree here, specially given how different the endings of both Leliana and Alistair can be. Specially Alistair, he can either be the most powerful, cunning ruler of the south, or some deadbeat exiled drunk. Gotta love this saga.
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 23:09:45 GMT
cuthbertbeckett Here is the moment where Hawke vouches for Samson. If you see in the Dialogue wheel, there is also the option to recommend "killing them all." I recall this option got Samson arrested unfortunately, the video is titled "all scenes" but ends without showing the Dead State. re: the Keep recognizing either choice, I don't believe it's there. If anything, this little trip into research shows that a Vouched Samson that gets back his Templar position as well as a hung Samson is ignored, leaving Samson having helped, but not redeemed, as the canon state.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 24, 2020 23:22:40 GMT
Here is the moment where Hawke vouches for Samson. If you see in the Dialogue wheel, there is also the option to recommend "killing them all." I recall this option got Samson arrested unfortunately, the video is titled "all scenes" but ends without showing the Dead State. I know in this case one unnamed templars knocks down Samson and then you have to go to the gallows and talk to Cullen. And i am pretty sure he said them not him. I swear it i heard it with my own ears. I am not sure because i played DAI severall times but maybe dialog line only shows up with you don´t use the Keep? And yes there just a few unique lines there.
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Post by phoray on Dec 24, 2020 23:57:17 GMT
cuthbertbeckettJust logged into the DA Keep, it only has "Gave conspirators to Orsino" vs "gave conspirators to Meredith" as an option there. The only tab that mentions reinstatement to the Templars is Keran, that one dude who was kidnapped by blood mages to turn him traitor. So they probably picked a canon state for Samson, not that all the tapestry choices always result in a reference in later installments. Whether you feed the soldier at Ostagar has never mattered.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 25, 2020 10:42:57 GMT
Specially Alistair, he can either be the most powerful, cunning ruler of the south, or some deadbeat exiled drunk. He can also have made the glorious ultimate sacrifice and be dead. Still, DG chose to ignore that in writing his comic series, which everyone now seems to take as canon/default state, so there is a precedent for ignoring his previous history. However, do they really want to waste yet more resources on minor cameos instead of putting them into new characters? Let Alistair rest along with the Warden and the rest of their crew unless there have a specific link with the new location, such as Zevran having fought a vendetta against the Crows, although this could still be no more than he had in DA2 because of the fact that he can alternatively be dead or off in the west somewhere with the Hero. Morrigan and Shale are the only ones who ought to be brought back in a major way because both their stories were open ended and there have a legitimate reason to be in the north. Even if we didn't activate Shale, someone else could have done so and she could have found her way to her old thaig, consulted the memories, etc, to discover who she was and then headed to Tevinter on her own. She doesn't die in any of the options if we do activate her. As for Morrigan, she did seem to have a major link with the Mythal plot and is also someone who doesn't die. (If you stab her in Witch Hunt, she falls into the eluvian and clearly survived). She also potentially drank from the Well of Sorrows, so if that is important she needs to return as an alternative to the Inquisitor who drank from it. Of course, if they have no intention of bringing back the Inquisitor at all on screen, then the Well becomes a dead end, unless it is a case of getting a message to the effect "this is what the spirits told me." However, considering the spirits are controlled by Mythal, I'd be pretty suspicious of any advice they gave me anyway, even though my PC doesn't know that Solas absorbed her. Beware of ancient elves bearing gifts (or knowledge).
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 25, 2020 10:51:06 GMT
cuthbertbeckett Just logged into the DA Keep, it only has "Gave conspirators to Orsino" vs "gave conspirators to Meredith" as an option there. The only tab that mentions reinstatement to the Templars is Keran, that one dude who was kidnapped by blood mages to turn him traitor. So they probably picked a canon state for Samson, not that all the tapestry choices always result in a reference in later installments. Whether you feed the soldier at Ostagar has never mattered. That is what is really sad. We have the beautiful keep and the dev. ignore it.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 25, 2020 14:47:04 GMT
Morrigan and Shale are the only ones who ought to be brought back in a major way because both their stories were open ended and there have a legitimate reason to be in the north. Even if we didn't activate Shale, someone else could have done so and she could have found her way to her old thaig, consulted the memories, etc, to discover who she was and then headed to Tevinter on her own. She doesn't die in any of the options if we do activate her. Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't there an ending in one of the games that implied she turned back to being a dwarf ? I would love the absolute shit out of Shale in DA4 though. Criminally underrated character.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 25, 2020 15:09:39 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, wasn't there an ending in one of the games that implied she turned back to being a dwarf ? I'm pretty sure she was only trying to find a way to switch back and that involved heading to Teviner but we were never given the outcome of that endeavour, so she could easily still be up there. Even at the end of Asunder she was with the mages on the Orlais/Tevinter border and there is no mention of her in DAI, so you can assume she must have slipped over the border into Tevinter to pursue her own agenda. I must admit though that I forgot that Shale could be dead if you side with Branka. I've never done this, which is why I forgot that detail. I must admit though it would surely be easier to explain resurrecting a golem, which may have just temporarily deactivated, than a normal person.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Dec 25, 2020 15:48:38 GMT
I must admit though that I forgot that Shale could be dead if you side with Branka. I've never done this, which is why I forgot that detail. I must admit though it would surely be easier to explain resurrecting a golem, which may have just temporarily deactivated, than a normal person. If they did that dumb shit with Leliana in the Temple of the Ashes then they sure as hell can repeat it with Shale. Not that I would like that though so I'm still doubtful. Dead is dead in my book.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 25, 2020 21:55:21 GMT
However, do they really want to waste yet more resources on minor cameos instead of putting them into new characters? Let Alistair rest along with the Warden and the rest of their crew unless there have a specific link with the new location, such as Zevran having fought a vendetta against the Crows, although this could still be no more than he had in DA2 because of the fact that he can alternatively be dead or off in the west somewhere with the Hero. I agree if the character has a reason to be here and the writer can do something with him / her why not? But it also depends on the screentime and who many people will see it. I mean DA 4 could feature a Loghain cameo at Weisshaupt but many player will ever see this? And what about Sten as new Arishok? I mean from all the DAO characters / companions he makes the most sense to be a DA 4 major character.
Won´t that be a great sidequest in DA 4? Much better than DAI finding ring quests. I agree that this would be the easiest explanation. But killing Shale in DAO should have consequences in DA 4.
Maybe if the player had killed her in DAO the transformation into a dwarf won´t work and she dies a in horrible way?
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