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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 25, 2021 2:44:59 GMT
edit also what did you mean by the singing thing. Get ready, cause it's a doozy. But wait! There's more! Absolutely, unequivocally, never do this again, Bioware. Don't make me dig up the DA:O Leliana singing again, either.
Edit: Looking at Cullen's face ... he's looking like he's having a personal moment there. Is it just me?
Oh! this is what you were referring to in Dragon Age (I never finished Orgins so I didn't ever get to see/hear Leliana sing) but this part in Inquisition I know.....and I actually quite liked. But like I said, that's just me. I see nothing wrong with others if you/they have a different opinion. and RE: 15.00 dollars for DLC, I don't mind so much if it is worthwhile content.....But I do agree that there are times when said content should actually be in the game, so I agree on that point. Like Trespasser or Lair of the Shadow Broker....I don't mind so much....But it's when you have stuff like the loot boxes from Battlefield 2 where they attack your credit card for knickknacks and gimmicks or silly side missions that were obviously cut content or pay-to-win items....That is what I am against in games. But more than that. what really irks me is when they leave a game or movie unfinished....with huge threads that obviously are meant to be in the game or movie and meant to go somewhere......But instead of putting it in the game or movie, they commission some blog writer to write a novel or comic about it, and force you to read the novel or comic if you want to learn about that part of the story (Rise of Skywalker, ME:A).........I mean, the thread with Ellen.....That was obviously meant to go somewhere and they dropped it like a hot iron. (there's tooooo many to name or list from Rise of Skywalker; the more I see that movie, the more I am convinced it is not good).... But yeah, unfinished content isn't cool when customers are paying big bucks for a type of media (game or movie etc).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 25, 2021 4:22:30 GMT
As for the fifteen dollar DLC that should have been in the game... well I point you towards the prothean in cryo in ME3. Unlike the shadow broker dlc which is completly seperate from the rest of ME2 the prothean is clearly meant to be part of ME3 and it's plot. Absolutely. There was even this article I read ... I forget where, about how Javik was indeed cut from the game and there was a lot of internal arguing about it. Was it in the trilogy art book? The 25 years of Bioware history book? It was quoted from one of these. Thank goodness Jarvik was cut. Absolutely despise him, so him being mandatory would have singlehandedly made ME3 the worst game in the franchise.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 25, 2021 5:29:28 GMT
edit also what did you mean by the singing thing. Get ready, cause it's a doozy. But wait! There's more! Absolutely, unequivocally, never do this again, Bioware. Don't make me dig up the DA:O Leliana singing again, either.
Edit: Looking at Cullen's face ... he's looking like he's having a personal moment there. Is it just me?
Look man, I'm tired of this goldish brain crap. The Dawn Will Come was HIGHLY praised at the time, HIGHLY. People LOVED it. The original Youtube upload was FLOODED with support for the scene, people talking about being moved to tears over the beautiful moment of symbolism, which it is. Everyone loves to play the Revisionist, or the Contrarian. But ya'll need to fucking stop. This constant fucking whining about unimportant shit is getting ridiculous.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 25, 2021 7:59:00 GMT
Yeah, the tone and setting of the Dragon Age Inquisition scene was entirely consistent with the rest of the story. Heck there’s even a solemn moment showing Roderick’s passing after he redeemed himself. It would be like complaining that BB’s Lullaby in Death Stranding might as well have a singalong subtitle, despite that also being tonally in-line with the events unfolding.
It’s a far cry from Tali’s scene. All I could think was thank fuck she wasn’t a romance option for FemShep or I might have been subjected to it.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jan 25, 2021 11:17:02 GMT
Thank goodness Jarvik was cut. Absolutely despise him, so him being mandatory would have singlehandedly made ME3 the worst game in the franchise. I wouldn't know. I never got him. Look man, I'm tired of this goldish brain crap. The Dawn Will Come was HIGHLY praised at the time, HIGHLY. People LOVED it. The original Youtube upload was FLOODED with support for the scene, people talking about being moved to tears over the beautiful moment of symbolism, which it is. Everyone loves to play the Revisionist, or the Contrarian. But ya'll need to fucking stop. This constant fucking whining about unimportant shit is getting ridiculous. The internet is full of cringe shit people praise. This is just another one. And you can bet, because of that support, you're getting another one in the next DA. Have fun with it.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 25, 2021 12:51:57 GMT
We will.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 25, 2021 14:44:38 GMT
Thank goodness Jarvik was cut. Absolutely despise him, so him being mandatory would have singlehandedly made ME3 the worst game in the franchise. I wouldn't know. I never got him. You might have enjoyed him actually. He basically shat all over Liara’s preconceived notions about what the protheans were like, and had zero fucks to give about it. I found it pretty entertaining. Personally, I thought he was the most interesting companion in the game, and it was a pity BioWare nixed having a deeper role in the plot, which is kind of aggravating considering what he is.
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Post by Radec on Jan 25, 2021 15:03:40 GMT
I wouldn't know. I never got him. You might have enjoyed him actually. He basically shat all over Liara’s preconceived notions about what the protheans were like, and had zero fucks to give about it. I found it pretty entertaining. Personally, I thought he was the most interesting companion in the game, and it was a pity BioWare nixed having a deeper role in the plot, which is kind of aggravating considering what he is. He's the only squadmate that actually adds anything new to ME3. Rest are re-hashes (often ruinous ones) of characters we've already seen. James is technically new as well, but he's just a gender flipped Williams, and exists primarily to ask questions for new players Funny how Javik is DLC, yet canon waifu Liara is mandatory (should've made her DLC, the fanboys would have paid loads for her) despite making no sense as a combat squad mate given her full time Shadow Broker gig, as well as EDI getting ruined via conversion into a sex toy.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 25, 2021 15:16:32 GMT
Get ready, cause it's a doozy. But wait! There's more! Absolutely, unequivocally, never do this again, Bioware. Don't make me dig up the DA:O Leliana singing again, either.
Edit: Looking at Cullen's face ... he's looking like he's having a personal moment there. Is it just me?
Look man, I'm tired of this goldish brain crap. The Dawn Will Come was HIGHLY praised at the time, HIGHLY. People LOVED it. The original Youtube upload was FLOODED with support for the scene, people talking about being moved to tears over the beautiful moment of symbolism, which it is. Everyone loves to play the Revisionist, or the Contrarian. But ya'll need to fucking stop. This constant fucking whining about unimportant shit is getting ridiculous. People were? Man fans simp over the dumbest things. Because that was awful.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 25, 2021 15:18:34 GMT
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Post by ahglock on Jan 25, 2021 15:22:31 GMT
The N7 Mirror match in the Armax Arsenal Arena was the only remotely challenging combat in the game, so at least there’s that. Oh yeah, the arena was definitely the best part of that DLC. Doing solo run on insanity against Vanguard Shepards was amazing Depending on class the initial fight in the DLC was tough due to your lack of gear, squad.
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Post by Radec on Jan 25, 2021 15:24:31 GMT
Look man, I'm tired of this goldish brain crap. The Dawn Will Come was HIGHLY praised at the time, HIGHLY. People LOVED it. The original Youtube upload was FLOODED with support for the scene, people talking about being moved to tears over the beautiful moment of symbolism, which it is. Everyone loves to play the Revisionist, or the Contrarian. But ya'll need to fucking stop. This constant fucking whining about unimportant shit is getting ridiculous. People were? Man fans simp over the dumbest things. Because that was awful. It's impossible to skip too isnt it? Cringe Be funny if all that racket was heard by Cory's scouts and the dragon showed up to raze the camp.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 25, 2021 15:29:13 GMT
Thinks to self..... EDI as a sex doll......hmmmmmmmmm, sounds like fun! Would prefer ME 3 Jack though The next place game companies make money, licensing out their characters images to sex doll companies, maybe give them advanced ones some dialogue.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 25, 2021 15:32:02 GMT
You might have enjoyed him actually. He basically shat all over Liara’s preconceived notions about what the protheans were like, and had zero fucks to give about it. I found it pretty entertaining. Personally, I thought he was the most interesting companion in the game, and it was a pity BioWare nixed having a deeper role in the plot, which is kind of aggravating considering what he is. He's the only squadmate that actually adds anything new to ME3. Rest are re-hashes (often ruinous ones) of characters we've already seen. James is technically new as well, but he's just a gender flipped Williams, and exists primarily to ask questions for new players Funny how Javik is DLC, yet canon waifu Liara is mandatory (should've made her DLC, the fanboys would have paid loads for her) despite making no sense as a combat squad mate given her full time Shadow Broker gig, as well as EDI getting ruined via conversion into a sex toy. While I don’t agree with making any companion character a DLC add-on (which hopefully BioWare never does ever again), Javik alone would have at least been able to replace the Eva mech body. I don’t think the mech body should even have existed at all, because the implications of such a thing are pretty big. If Cerberus can just create synthetic people that can infiltrate facilities like Mars, what’s stopping them from doing that all over the place? It just seems really random in retrospect. Just having an ordinary character we capture and obtain the plans from on Mars would have been enough.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jan 25, 2021 15:33:15 GMT
Fan service was exactly what the Citadel was - and it was amazing for it.
It was so good in fact that Bioware tried to take the ingredients of the citadel DLC, and spread it all over the writing of Andromeda. This didn't work because fan service has be earned, and 9/10 characters you meet in Andromeda are terrible.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jan 25, 2021 15:56:48 GMT
Thinks to self..... EDI as a sex doll.I knew we were getting EDI a body. But that was ridiculous. Would prefer ME 3 Jack though Yeah ... yeah. The next place game companies make money, licensing out their characters images to sex doll companies, maybe give them advanced ones some dialogue. I think that in the future, you will get a customized Siri/Alexa/Google Assistant/Cortana type of AI companion app for your PC/phone/tablet that will be whatever persona you want. You'll also be able to "AI Dungeon" custom tailored games with whoever you want in it and do whatever you want with them. In a sense we are half-way there with Disney owning the rights to Mark Hamill's likeness. I expect EA to do so for Jillian Murray, Mark Vanderloo etc. we'll get AI generated dialogue voiced by AI voice-fakes of Mark Meer, Jennifer Hale, Ali Hillis etc. And maybe that will be in 30 years from now, but it's coming. In a sense, we will all be able to get the sequels we wanted. Provided we live that long.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jan 25, 2021 16:03:13 GMT
You might have enjoyed him actually From what I have seen of him, he seems to be making some 4th wall breaking, meta-commentary on the game. It's like Bioware addressing fan's problems with the handling of the Asari, by basically agreeing with them. I don't appreciate that part.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 25, 2021 16:10:36 GMT
You might have enjoyed him actually From what I have seen of him, he seems to be making some 4th wall breaking, meta-commentary on the game. It's like Bioware addressing fan's problems with the handling of the Asari, by basically agreeing with them. I don't appreciate that part. An example might help, because I can’t recall anything in particular about him that’s particularly meta.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 25, 2021 16:26:17 GMT
Absolutely. There was even this article I read ... I forget where, about how Javik was indeed cut from the game and there was a lot of internal arguing about it. Was it in the trilogy art book? The 25 years of Bioware history book? It was quoted from one of these. Thank goodness Jarvik was cut. Absolutely despise him, so him being mandatory would have singlehandedly made ME3 the worst game in the franchise. Javik the great was awesome. It was great having him talk smack to the asari on Thessia something that I would have liked my Shepard to do. He is in a time he doesn't belong. He's surrounded by species he doesn't give a crap about. He might be the only prothean alive. I would be like him. Not give a crap about you or anyone else, but I would help with destroying the reapers. Hopefully, if there's to be an ME4, he makes an appearance. It's too bad he was cut from the game to be in a dlc.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jan 25, 2021 16:34:26 GMT
It's a damn shame that Javik is only in one game. To shine in a cast of already established and loved characters is a great feat.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 25, 2021 16:39:10 GMT
Thinks to self..... EDI as a sex doll......hmmmmmmmmm, sounds like fun! Would prefer ME 3 Jack though The next place game companies make money, licensing out their characters images to sex doll companies, maybe give them advanced ones some dialogue. can you imagine Jack's dialogue? "Are you eyeing me up? Look if this just about sex maybe you should just f***ing say so?" as you give her the 'elevator stare', marveling at the perfectly detailed silicone likeness , or "Rough stuff! I like it!" (if you get a little aggressive....referencing the Tank-bred Krogan tossing aside the metal gate on Korliss) Or after you *finish" she may remark, "quiet. Just how I like it." after you roll over and fall asleep. Or my favourite: "Damn. Are you as turned on as I am?..........I'll help pop your thermal clip." I can just imagine.....this would be funny as hell.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 25, 2021 16:41:42 GMT
It's a damn shame that Javik is only in one game. To shine in a cast of already established and loved characters is a great feat. If the trilogy were to be remade, I would have him found in ME1
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Post by Radec on Jan 25, 2021 16:46:08 GMT
He's the only squadmate that actually adds anything new to ME3. Rest are re-hashes (often ruinous ones) of characters we've already seen. James is technically new as well, but he's just a gender flipped Williams, and exists primarily to ask questions for new players Funny how Javik is DLC, yet canon waifu Liara is mandatory (should've made her DLC, the fanboys would have paid loads for her) despite making no sense as a combat squad mate given her full time Shadow Broker gig, as well as EDI getting ruined via conversion into a sex toy. While I don’t agree with making any companion character a DLC add-on (which hopefully BioWare never does ever again), Javik alone would have at least been able to replace the Eva mech body. I don’t think the mech body should even have existed at all, because the implications of such a thing are pretty big. If Cerberus can just create synthetic people that can infiltrate facilities like Mars, what’s stopping them from doing that all over the place? It just seems really random in retrospect. Just having an ordinary character we capture and obtain the plans from on Mars would have been enough. Oh yeah, I agree. The early 2010s practice of cutting out narratively important content to later sell as DLC was ridiculous, in general. I was just saying if they were to make a character paid content, it should've been one of the less relevant characters who had already had an arc in previous games, not the only new one who provided a new perspective. Instead they shoehorn Liara into the Crucible plot at multiple points for no reason, in a manner that conflicts with her previous portrayal and lore (though at this point she's so inconsistent it's basically 3 separate characters by the same name), where Javik could have and should've been instead. Because writers pet/canon waifu. And yes, the EDI bot concept is ridiculous (in addition to being an impractical eyesore for what it is supposedly designed for), though I imagine it could be foiled quite easily with a DS9 style blood test if it started being a thing Cerberus did repeatedly. Really you could just use a metal detector.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jan 25, 2021 17:25:30 GMT
Gotta disagree with ya. It was obviously fan service of course but it was awesome. I loved grunts side mission thing as his story reminded me of a guy richie movie. Garrus got some dancing and proved once again what a stud he is. Miranda and Jack got good content in it as well. The only one who got screwed in it was ashley if she was your LI.
Obviously the main story was cliche and cheesy but it was on purpose and entertaining in my opinion.
It was a good way to say goodbye in my opinion and the male shepard slayer armor was badas#.
I understand that. I mean, most people rate it as their favorite DLC. Personally LoTSB and Omega are my favorites, but most people like citadel the best because it adds more interactions with the companions. But I just felt it didn't add anything, and was like a mini Andromeda in a way because of how cringe the dialogue and story was. Plus it didn't fit in the natural timeline with things. Shepard is running around trying to stop the reapers, but he has time to stop and throw a party and invite all his crew who are busy doing more important things? It just didn't sit right with me. All in all, one thing I can say good about the DLC is the clone fight with Vanguard Shep. It topped the Tela Vasir fight in LoTSB for me. Vanguard vs Vanguard is always fun. I think it helps to view it as a kind of alternate universe with the characters all as slightly cartoonish versions of themselves. I play it as a sort of separate coda after my regular trilogy runs, usually by reloading my last pre-Cerberus HQ save in ME3 and then going to the Citadel to trigger the content, then just doing DLC content in the Silversun Strip and then throwing the party with the scene in the Normandy docking bay as the end. If I had to justify when/where it "really" happens, I'd say that, depending on the chosen ending, it's either (1) an hallucination that Synthesis-Shepard has while jumping into the beam; (2) a simulation that Control's AI-Shepard runs for itself as entertainment; or (3) a dream that Destroy-Shepard has while lying in the rubble.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 25, 2021 17:31:24 GMT
I understand that. I mean, most people rate it as their favorite DLC. Personally LoTSB and Omega are my favorites, but most people like citadel the best because it adds more interactions with the companions. But I just felt it didn't add anything, and was like a mini Andromeda in a way because of how cringe the dialogue and story was. Plus it didn't fit in the natural timeline with things. Shepard is running around trying to stop the reapers, but he has time to stop and throw a party and invite all his crew who are busy doing more important things? It just didn't sit right with me. All in all, one thing I can say good about the DLC is the clone fight with Vanguard Shep. It topped the Tela Vasir fight in LoTSB for me. Vanguard vs Vanguard is always fun. I think it helps to view it as a kind of alternate universe with the characters all as slightly cartoonish versions of themselves. I play it as a sort of separate coda after my regular trilogy runs, usually by reloading my last pre-Cerberus HQ save in ME3 and then going to the Citadel to trigger the content, then just doing DLC content in the Silversun Strip and then throwing the party with the scene in the Normandy docking bay as the end. If I had to justify when/where it "really" happens, I'd say that, depending on the chosen ending, it's either (1) an hallucination that Synthesis-Shepard has while jumping into the beam; (2) a simulation that Control's AI-Shepard runs for itself as entertainment; or (3) a dream that Destroy-Shepard has while lying in the rubble. I'd of dug citadel more if they had reworked it for just post high EMS destroy Shepard, or had tied it into a specific time point where they were like okay you are going on your next mission in 24 hours get some rest. It just didn't fit into the story very well as is as they had set the story up as like a race against time.
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