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Post by mattfon on Feb 6, 2021 22:10:17 GMT
Seriously, just read an article that stated it as one of the reasons Mass Effect Andromeda only had two new aliens. That's just limits the creativity of the developers. One of my main criticisms of scifi alien is that they look too human. Furthermore cosplay is suppose to be icing on the cake, other word you can't enjoy frosting if the cake isn't there
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 6, 2021 22:11:40 GMT
Wait, seriously?
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 6, 2021 22:15:18 GMT
Link the article, but i'll be damned if we go through another game without an elcor, volus and hanar companion.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 6, 2021 23:15:36 GMT
Link the article, but i'll be damned if we go through another game without an elcor, volus and hanar companion.
It is more complex then that. Cosplay was a factor but so was budget and time. They had to scale a lot back because of budget and time reasons.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 6, 2021 23:28:14 GMT
Link the article, but i'll be damned if we go through another game without an elcor, volus and hanar companion.
It is more complex then that. Cosplay was a factor but so was budget and time. They had to scale a lot back because of budget and time reasons.
Yeah it's overblown. It's quite clear if they need to cut alien species anyway, those with less marketable value get the cut.
And next ME game will have to address that they not only need to bring trilogy species back that weren't in Andromeda, but also create new aliens too.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 6, 2021 23:40:26 GMT
It is more complex then that. Cosplay was a factor but so was budget and time. They had to scale a lot back because of budget and time reasons.
Yeah it's overblown. It's quite clear if they need to cut alien species anyway, those with less marketable value get the cut.
And next ME game will have to address that they not only need to bring trilogy species back that weren't in Andromeda, but also create new aliens too.
Only if they leave the cluster. IF they stay in the cluster they can get away with keeping the same aliens but they need to at least bring back all the Milky Way species. Though I will admit I would prefer introduction of 2 or 3 new alien races.
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Post by kumazan on Feb 6, 2021 23:46:02 GMT
Yeah it's overblown. It's quite clear if they need to cut alien species anyway, those with less marketable value get the cut.
And next ME game will have to address that they not only need to bring trilogy species back that weren't in Andromeda, but also create new aliens too.
Only if they leave the cluster. IF they stay in the cluster they can get away with keeping the same aliens but they need to at least bring back all the Milky Way species. Though I will admit I would prefer introduction of 2 or 3 new alien races. If they return to Andromeda at all, I can't see them staying in Heleus alone. 2 of the 3 big threads left hanging (Kett and Jardaan) both point towards leaving Heleus.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 6, 2021 23:54:58 GMT
Only if they leave the cluster. IF they stay in the cluster they can get away with keeping the same aliens but they need to at least bring back all the Milky Way species. Though I will admit I would prefer introduction of 2 or 3 new alien races. If they return to Andromeda at all, I can't see them staying in Heleus alone. 2 of the 3 big threads left hanging (Kett and Jardaan) both point towards leaving Heleus. Well in MEA it was hinted there was an eventual plan to connect both Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies via Mass Relays. With BioWare dropping hints about doing such connection, yeah they will likely expand to other star clusters in both Andromeda and Milky Way.
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Post by kumazan on Feb 6, 2021 23:58:41 GMT
If they return to Andromeda at all, I can't see them staying in Heleus alone. 2 of the 3 big threads left hanging (Kett and Jardaan) both point towards leaving Heleus. Well in MEA it was hinted there was an eventual plan to connect both Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies via Mass Relays. With BioWare dropping hints about doing such connection, yeah they will likely expand to other star clusters in both Andromeda and Milky Way. Yeah, there's that too. TBH the perspective of them doing that both hypes me (because it'd rock if done well) and terrifies me (because it's hard to pull off in a reasonable way, and the lore suffered enough when escaping the endings the Milky Way).
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 7, 2021 0:08:49 GMT
Well in MEA it was hinted there was an eventual plan to connect both Andromeda and Milky Way galaxies via Mass Relays. With BioWare dropping hints about doing such connection, yeah they will likely expand to other star clusters in both Andromeda and Milky Way. Yeah, there's that too. TBH the perspective of them doing that both hypes me (because it'd rock if done well) and terrifies me (because it's hard to pull off in a reasonable way, and the lore suffered enough when escaping the endings the Milky Way). It is a necessary step. BioWare did not left enough room in lore to make some prequel game in Milky Way, can't do a sequel in Milky Way due to both endings and upsetting Andromeda fans, focusing on Andromeda is a very risky gambit due to poor initial reception and it is clear BioWare does not want to do a remake for Shepard's trilogy. Hell, it looks like EA pressured to do a remaster, something what OG BW team seemed to be resisted about it to protect "artistic integrity".
So doing Andromeda with Milky Way back along side is a great compromise. It keeps Andromeda fans happy as they keep MEA stuff, while those who did not like MEA are kept content with Milky Way and MET elements returning. And it's already set up in lore anyway, so they don't even have to retcon anything at all.
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Post by sageoflife on Feb 7, 2021 0:11:51 GMT
There's already four to five new aliens just waiting to be designed. The Jardaan, the "adversaries" (assuming they are not a Jardaan splinter group), the eealen, the thusali, and the syrinde.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 7, 2021 1:36:33 GMT
I'd put this reason well down the list below 'time' and 'budget'.
The game was clearly struggling to get out of the door in a finished state, so having fewer characters/races (even different faces within a race, eg Asari) to create must have been a way to allow the game to ship at all.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 7, 2021 1:37:58 GMT
Whatever the reason it does make sense given the lore. Only one 'cluster' in the MW had more then one race in it...I believe anyways...its not that common of a concern....or was it two?
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Post by Radec on Feb 7, 2021 3:18:44 GMT
Link the article, but i'll be damned if we go through another game without an elcor, volus and hanar companion. Complete with full romance, no doubt. Cant wait for the Hanar Harem DLC. BSN will love it.
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 7, 2021 3:28:12 GMT
Link the article, but i'll be damned if we go through another game without an elcor, volus and hanar companion. Complete with full romance, no doubt. Cant wait for the Hanar Harem DLC. BSN will love it. Japan approved, but oh no no no no no... hanar, elcor, and volus are too pure and are not for lewd. That's the asari's job.
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Feb 7, 2021 19:18:57 GMT
Andromeda could only make two asari faces (Peebee and everyone else with different paint). I think there's three turian faces, and there's not a lot of Angara... Though whether different scars count as a different face, not sure...
My point is that Andromeda probably didn't have the time to really polish new species.
If we get a sequel, I'd love to see some more, new and old favorites, cosplay be damned. Those people are creative. They can figure it out.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 7, 2021 19:26:08 GMT
Cosplay might be one issue, but the mechanics of making the game are probably a much higher priority. If they make non-humanoid species they are going to have to try and figure out ways to animate them or they are just going to be lamp posts like the Elcor and Volus until ME3. My guess is the animators at BioWare are overworked as is trying to get all the conversations properly animated and then throwing in a species just to make people online happy is going to be falling to a low priority to try and prevent the lip syncing issues they had with Andromeda.
Not to mention they cannot give everyone what they want, that is in my opinion one of the biggest issues around Andromeda where they were trying to give the online community the three pillars and failed doing that.
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Post by x19dude95 on Feb 14, 2021 19:58:50 GMT
Fuck social media it's a cancer. I use to kind of thought crossplayers were kinda hot but now I hate them and their instagram and their followers
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 14, 2021 20:07:36 GMT
Fuck social media it's a cancer. I use to kind of thought crossplayers were kinda hot but not I hate them and their instagram and theirfollowers Here here Brother.
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 14, 2021 20:10:04 GMT
I am happy they did it. Thanks to cutting of all those other races we can now see so many Angara cossplayers out there and it makes me giddy to see it. So cool
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 5:13:17 GMT
Fuck social media it's a cancer. I use to kind of thought crossplayers were kinda hot but not I hate them and their instagram and theirfollowers Here here Brother. Find yourself trapped in a comic-con with these crazies:
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 15, 2021 5:31:24 GMT
Here here Brother. Find yourself trapped in a comic-con with these crazies: Hmm.. I'm not 100% sure what your point is here, but I have an idea. However I really don't give a toss about being 'agreeable'. FACT: I don't have social media accounts because I learnt long ago that they are poison.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 5:38:32 GMT
Find yourself trapped in a comic-con with these crazies: Hmm.. I'm not 100% sure what your point is here, but I have an idea. However I really don't give a toss about being 'agreeable'. FACT: I don't have social media accounts because I learnt long ago that they are poison. The point: See them and just walk on.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 5:55:58 GMT
Hmm.. I'm not 100% sure what your point is here, but I have an idea. However I really don't give a toss about being 'agreeable'. FACT: I don't have social media accounts because I learnt long ago that they are poison. So Bioware Social Network doesn't apply?
Otherwise I am the same. Don't need them or want them.
Most SM is just a place where those who can't think for themselves cower and cry and complain like children of 5 or 7... Yet are 30 somethings' hiding in their parents basements.
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 18, 2021 17:55:32 GMT
Hmm.. I'm not 100% sure what your point is here, but I have an idea. However I really don't give a toss about being 'agreeable'. FACT: I don't have social media accounts because I learnt long ago that they are poison. So Bioware Social Network doesn't apply?
Otherwise I am the same. Don't need them or want them.
Most SM is just a place where those who can't think for themselves cower and cry and complain like children of 5 or 7... Yet are 30 somethings' hiding in their parents basements.
No it doesn't. This is a gaming forum where I come to talk about some of my favourite games. In this case Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Social Media to me, is Facebook and Twitter. Both are equally bad platforms where free speech is a crime unless you're on the right team. And I avoid them like the Black Death.
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