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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 12, 2021 20:47:31 GMT
This thread contains all the tweets that have been teasing so far:
Notice than in the second tweet he says he spend years thinking about Andromeda, and when the NME teaser debuted he said he's been thinking about it for the past 1.360d. That's not coincidence. As i said on my analysis thread, Andromeda released on 1.360 days. Now it's more but when he said it it was exactly the same days from the release of the game. The fact that he says the exact number is very important. Btw when he wrote that on Andromeda's 2nd anniversary he started the project the same month he tweeted it.
Tom Taylorson (Ryder's VA) tweeted right after the trailer:
His tweets even if he said he's not involved (yet) which seems like he teases here again, are something that gives me hope along with Danielle Rayne (Vetra's VA) when she was asked if she's involved in it, and she said she can't say anything due to NDA.
He implies on the last tweet it might not be a sequel to both (unless he's trolling), but they show them for a reason. Obviously something's gonna happen in the story that's gonna involve both galaxies. Whether that will be from Andromeda or MW we'll see... Also I'm thinking if the story will focus more on the mw with elements from andromeda. Mw looks bigger here while Andromeda doesn't, but i might read too much into it. It's just the distance that makes it look smaller after all.
From what gamble said if we look closely we might know who is this. It is Ryder and their crew.
Nathan Zufelt the animation director liked a tweet when someone replied to the tweet i posted above: "Ryder, Kallo, Grunt or Jaal. He also liked this one:
Gamble's reply when someone said that they are abandoning Ryder and crew:
He reassures that we'll see them.
He also implied that these structures which resemble the remnant might be both this and prothean technology. The shape looks like remnant while the color lines looks like prothean.
As you all see there are a lot of stuff about Andromeda. Some of you might not think they mean anything but to me they do. They strongly hint on Ryder and andromeda more than shepard. Who knows though. They might want to surprise people. Gamble said that he's gonna play the LE with all the dlc included as homework for the next game (don't know if this means anything, it could be for him to freshen his memory for the nme and nothing else).He also said he played Andromeda last month...
If shepard returns i want it to be like a happy epilogue and then move on to Ryder and crew. If they try to bring them back it will be a problem cause they both have to have equal screentime. A new protagonist will have the same problem too. They will have to develop two main characters and crews, and it's gonna be chaotic. It's either gonna have to be Shepard, Ryder or new pc. I'm leaning towrds Ryder...Shepards story is over and let's be honest, they had 3 games of development whereas Ryder 1. This is only the beginning of their story and i think we'll see great stuff if they keep going with it.
Some might not like what I'm gonna say but the teaser seems like a teaser for andromeda but they made it mysterious on purpose to confuse people and to generate hype. I know, the n7 piece made people think shepard returns but unfortunately they don't look too much into it and say that n7 is the symbol of the franchise and is off from the ice. Could be both but idk.
As i said in my previous thread expect to see something after the LE releases (probably on june at ea play). If not then on n7. We also have Andromeda's 4th anniversary in one month, and as Michael Gamble teased two years ago, he might tease again.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 12, 2021 23:15:33 GMT
Why should I believe what Gamble tweets? Look at this tweet he made in 2015. If the teaser is to be believed, then his tweet in 2015 is crap. Until something is confirmed about the next ME game, I will take whatever Gamble says as a grain of salt. By the way. Has anyone asked him about that tweet from 2015? Would his answer be Intentional?
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Post by Little Bengel on Feb 13, 2021 0:39:47 GMT
Why should I believe what Gamble tweets? Look at this tweet he made in 2015. If the teaser is to be believed, then his tweet in 2015 is crap. Until something is confirmed about the next ME game, I will take whatever Gamble says as a grain of salt. By the way. Has anyone asked him about that tweet from 2015? Would his answer be Intentional? The tweet is likely more reflective of the stance on the endings at the time it was first posted.If they elected to take a different approach after Andromeda's release, it doesn't change the fact that that was their stance back in 2015.
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Post by skekSil on Feb 13, 2021 2:21:37 GMT
Why should I believe what Gamble tweets? Look at this tweet he made in 2015. If the teaser is to be believed, then his tweet in 2015 is crap. Until something is confirmed about the next ME game, I will take whatever Gamble says as a grain of salt. By the way. Has anyone asked him about that tweet from 2015? Would his answer be Intentional? Whats wrong with this tweet?
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Post by themikefest on Feb 13, 2021 2:34:14 GMT
Whats wrong with this tweet? If the teaser is to be believed, the seen with t'soni takes place after the events of ME3. She can be dead depending on the playthrough. Which means my playthrough is invalid. So Gamble doesn't take player's choice very seriously. That's one reason why I will wait until something is confirmed to be in the next game. It also looks like red is the ending seeing dead reapers on the planet The other thing is when it was first posted on the old forum, I said Gamble may want to play the trilogy again to make sure what he tweeted is true. For example, if Garrus is not recruited in ME1, he will happen to know Kirrahe by name, even though he was never on Virmire, and when shooting bottles, he will claim all the times he saved Shepard on Feros, Virmire and other. It's hard to do that if he wasn't recruited. Even though it's a insignificant thing, it's still a choice a player can make, but because Bioware chose otherwise, it makes that playthrough invalid.
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Post by 10k on Feb 13, 2021 3:10:38 GMT
If the teaser is to be believed, the seen with t'soni takes place after the events of ME3. She can be dead depending on the playthrough. Which means my playthrough is invalid. So Gamble doesn't take player's choice very seriously. That's one reason why I will wait until something is confirmed to be in the next game. It also looks like red is the ending seeing dead reapers on the planet The other thing is when it was first posted on the old forum, I said Gamble may want to play the trilogy again to make sure what he tweeted is true. For example, if Garrus is not recruited in ME1, he will happen to know Kirrahe by name, even though he was never on Virmire, and when shooting bottles, he will claim all the times he saved Shepard on Feros, Virmire and other. It's hard to do that if he wasn't recruited. Even though it's a insignificant thing, it's still a choice a player can make, but because Bioware chose otherwise, it makes that playthrough invalid. You didn't even have to pull out insignificant choices. There are major choices that didn't really matter. Like rather or not you killed the rachni queen, or saving the council. I mean why choose to kill them if clones pop up in their place? There are multiple choices in the trilogy that don't matter, and it baffles me that people think they absolutely do. If BW pick a canon ending, it wouldn't bother me in the least. They should stop claiming player choice matters when it don't.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 13, 2021 3:27:27 GMT
If the teaser is to be believed, the seen with t'soni takes place after the events of ME3. She can be dead depending on the playthrough. Which means my playthrough is invalid. So Gamble doesn't take player's choice very seriously. That's one reason why I will wait until something is confirmed to be in the next game. It also looks like red is the ending seeing dead reapers on the planet The other thing is when it was first posted on the old forum, I said Gamble may want to play the trilogy again to make sure what he tweeted is true. For example, if Garrus is not recruited in ME1, he will happen to know Kirrahe by name, even though he was never on Virmire, and when shooting bottles, he will claim all the times he saved Shepard on Feros, Virmire and other. It's hard to do that if he wasn't recruited. Even though it's a insignificant thing, it's still a choice a player can make, but because Bioware chose otherwise, it makes that playthrough invalid. You didn't even have to pull out insignificant choices. There are major choices that didn't really matter. Like rather or not you killed the rachni queen, or saving the council. I mean why choose to kill them if clones pop up in their place? There are multiple choices in the trilogy that don't matter, and it baffles me that people think they absolutely do. If BW pick a canon ending, it wouldn't bother me in the least. They should stop claiming player choice matters when it don't. Well here is a fix that allows all the plot points to be ignored:
What if it does turn out that Shepard is in an insane asylum. Since he/she started spouting REAPER this, REAPER that. Ok to the looney bin. And we get the color endings because of the different color pills he is being forced to take. While in reality there is only one ending for ME3 -WE FIGHT! With Anderson killing Harbinger's minions.
The bad part though: Liara is the insane Doctor that will not let Shepard alone with pills and drugs. Maybe that is indeed Liara that is picking up Anderson's helmet piece not Shepard. Live on Anderson!
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Post by 10k on Feb 13, 2021 4:16:55 GMT
Well here is a fix that allows all the plot points to be ignored: What if it does turn out that Shepard is in an insane asylum. Since he/she started spouting REAPER this, REAPER that. Ok to the looney bin. And we get the color endings because of the different color pills he is being forced to take. While in reality there is only one ending for ME3 -WE FIGHT! With Anderson killing Harbinger's minions. The bad part though: Liara is the insane Doctor that will not let Shepard alone with pills and drugs. Maybe that is indeed Liara that is picking up Anderson's helmet piece not Shepard. Live on Anderson! They'd be better off going with the indoctrination theory. Hell Chris Hepler recently said it was good, and BW was too stupid to come up with it themselves.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 13, 2021 4:21:41 GMT
Well here is a fix that allows all the plot points to be ignored: What if it does turn out that Shepard is in an insane asylum. Since he/she started spouting REAPER this, REAPER that. Ok to the looney bin. And we get the color endings because of the different color pills he is being forced to take. While in reality there is only one ending for ME3 -WE FIGHT! With Anderson killing Harbinger's minions. The bad part though: Liara is the insane Doctor that will not let Shepard alone with pills and drugs. Maybe that is indeed Liara that is picking up Anderson's helmet piece not Shepard. Live on Anderson! They'd be better off going with the indoctrination theory. Hell Chris Hepler recently said it was good, and BW was too stupid to come up with it themselves. Yeah. They didn't want to admit awesome and went with stupid.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 14, 2021 14:36:11 GMT
Why should I believe what Gamble tweets? Look at this tweet he made in 2015. If the teaser is to be believed, then his tweet in 2015 is crap. Until something is confirmed about the next ME game, I will take whatever Gamble says as a grain of salt. By the way. Has anyone asked him about that tweet from 2015? Would his answer be Intentional? Dunno. If all of that means nothing which i expect to a degree will be pretty stupid. Still i have some hopes until we see more.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 6:07:01 GMT
Why should I believe what Gamble tweets? Look at this tweet he made in 2015. If the teaser is to be believed, then his tweet in 2015 is crap. Until something is confirmed about the next ME game, I will take whatever Gamble says as a grain of salt. By the way. Has anyone asked him about that tweet from 2015? Would his answer be Intentional? Dunno. If all of that means nothing which i expect to a degree will be pretty stupid. Still i have some hopes until we see more. Well since I for some reason can't see the tweet all I can do is help those on the path to deception detection: Maybe this will help figure Gamble's tweets' out...
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 15, 2021 8:59:34 GMT
I don't get why the five pixel tall figures in the background of the Liara shot are supposed to be Ryder and crew. They are so tiny and blurred that there's no way to visually establish their identity. Also, Liara is smiling as she's looking at them - why would she smile at the sight of someone she doesn't know, while standing on a dead reaper? It's way more likely that the sight of old companions in the Milky Way made her smile.
We're back in the Milky Way, which features more prominently in the galaxy shot, meaning the protagonist is very likely from the Milky Way. There may be a nod to Ryder somewhere, but if Tom Taylorson is not involved (yet), that will likely just be a codex entry or maybe a few recorded lines like Liara had in MEA.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 15, 2021 11:43:35 GMT
Dunno. If all of that means nothing which i expect to a degree will be pretty stupid. Still i have some hopes until we see more. Well since I for some reason can't see the tweet all I can do is help those on the path to deception detection: Maybe this will help figure Gamble's tweets' out...
Michael Gamble @gamblemike @somestrangefx @bio_Warner @bioware @masseffect There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 15, 2021 12:40:57 GMT
Whats wrong with this tweet? If the teaser is to be believed, the seen with t'soni takes place after the events of ME3. She can be dead depending on the playthrough. Which means my playthrough is invalid. So Gamble doesn't take player's choice very seriously. That's one reason why I will wait until something is confirmed to be in the next game. It also looks like red is the ending seeing dead reapers on the planet The other thing is when it was first posted on the old forum, I said Gamble may want to play the trilogy again to make sure what he tweeted is true. For example, if Garrus is not recruited in ME1, he will happen to know Kirrahe by name, even though he was never on Virmire, and when shooting bottles, he will claim all the times he saved Shepard on Feros, Virmire and other. It's hard to do that if he wasn't recruited. Even though it's a insignificant thing, it's still a choice a player can make, but because Bioware chose otherwise, it makes that playthrough invalid. How does Liara die in your playthrough? I was always under the impression that she couldn't die? I think that Garrus example, what kind of person goes through an entire playthough and *not* recruit Garrus?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2021 12:59:50 GMT
If the teaser is to be believed, the seen with t'soni takes place after the events of ME3. She can be dead depending on the playthrough. Which means my playthrough is invalid. So Gamble doesn't take player's choice very seriously. That's one reason why I will wait until something is confirmed to be in the next game. It also looks like red is the ending seeing dead reapers on the planet The other thing is when it was first posted on the old forum, I said Gamble may want to play the trilogy again to make sure what he tweeted is true. For example, if Garrus is not recruited in ME1, he will happen to know Kirrahe by name, even though he was never on Virmire, and when shooting bottles, he will claim all the times he saved Shepard on Feros, Virmire and other. It's hard to do that if he wasn't recruited. Even though it's a insignificant thing, it's still a choice a player can make, but because Bioware chose otherwise, it makes that playthrough invalid. How does Liara die in your playthrough? I was always under the impression that she couldn't die? I think that Garrus example, what kind of person goes through an entire playthough and *not* recruit Garrus? If you don’t have enough War Assets, she can be killed in the beam run on Earth.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 15, 2021 13:53:25 GMT
I don't get why the five pixel tall figures in the background of the Liara shot are supposed to be Ryder and crew. They are so tiny and blurred that there's no way to visually establish their identity. Also, Liara is smiling as she's looking at them - why would she smile at the sight of someone she doesn't know, while standing on a dead reaper? It's way more likely that the sight of old companions in the Milky Way made her smile. We're back in the Milky Way, which features more prominently in the galaxy shot, meaning the protagonist is very likely from the Milky Way. There may be a nod to Ryder somewhere, but if Tom Taylorson is not involved (yet), that will likely just be a codex entry or maybe a few recorded lines like Liara had in MEA. Check out this and you will see that the main figure has a helmet with full glass, and collar: bsn.boards.net/thread/18644/effect-enhanced-pictures-artworks-updatedBoth of these looks like the pathfinder suit. Her smiling at the crew makes sense cause she knew Alec, so he might have talked to her about his children. It's a familiar face not only known to her but also to us. The smile means more than just that though. It's a smile of hope for the future, and she seems hopeful. Something is happening in the mw. It also indicates that me/mea isn't dead. Now i don't wanna say that Ryder will definitely be the pc, but i remain kinda hopeful while still expect to see someone new. I agree about them being in codex, i can expect that too... One thing that makes me wonder is why they are on the mw with the Mudskipper. Did they only just show them to show us that the galaxies will connect and that ship will be for the new protagonist which might be it, but still that's kinda weird, although teasers are like that. We know from the opening shot the galaxies might connect so we don't have to see Ryder too. They could've only showed the ship and only show the two alien figures. That way we would've know that we'll have a new protagonist, that's why i feel we might see them again... Maybe they will show the new pc very late if we don't hear anything about Ryder though...
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Post by themikefest on Feb 15, 2021 14:55:04 GMT
How does Liara die in your playthrough? I was always under the impression that she couldn't die? ems has to be below 2000. Then take her on the beam run. Harbinger will vaporize her. What do you mean what kind of person? The game gives that option, so any kind of person can choose not to recruit him. It adds replay value except that playthrough is invalid because, for whatever reason, Biowaare forgot he didn't have to be recruited in ME1.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 15, 2021 15:26:14 GMT
How does Liara die in your playthrough? I was always under the impression that she couldn't die? ems has to be below 2000. Then take her on the beam run. Harbinger will vaporize her. What do you mean what kind of person? The game gives that option, so any kind of person can choose not to recruit him. It adds replay value except that playthrough is invalid because, for whatever reason, Biowaare forgot he didn't have to be recruited in ME1. I mean, you have to consider that most people who play the game are going to recruit Garrus.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 18:29:48 GMT
How does Liara die in your playthrough? I was always under the impression that she couldn't die? I think that Garrus example, what kind of person goes through an entire playthough and *not* recruit Garrus? If you don’t have enough War Assets, she can be killed in the beam run on Earth.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 18:30:07 GMT
ems has to be below 2000. Then take her on the beam run. Harbinger will vaporize her. What do you mean what kind of person? The game gives that option, so any kind of person can choose not to recruit him. It adds replay value except that playthrough is invalid because, for whatever reason, Biowaare forgot he didn't have to be recruited in ME1. I mean, you have to consider that most people who play the game are going to recruit Garrus. You can kill Wrex to:
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 18:30:21 GMT
Well since I for some reason can't see the tweet all I can do is help those on the path to deception detection: Maybe this will help figure Gamble's tweets' out...
Michael Gamble @gamblemike @somestrangefx @bio_Warner @bioware @masseffect There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously. Thank you. Sometimes not using these SM sites can make it a pain for others but I will not be indoctrinated.
Would you happen to have access to the tweets before and after this one? Sometimes someone can do a setup for the lie they are going to tell which in-of-itself can be a misdirect.
As the FBI man Jim Clememte said:
Multiple statements used to setup the lie that is about to said. When your telling a lie -you have to convince the people that what your about to say is the truth. When your stating facts -you simply have to state them.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 15, 2021 19:01:06 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike @somestrangefx @bio_Warner @bioware @masseffect There is no canon ending to ME3. Player choice is something we take very seriously. Thank you.
Multiple statements used to setup the lie that is about to said.
You're welcome. Hmm, this kinda reminds me of someone....
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 15, 2021 19:01:42 GMT
Both of these looks like the pathfinder suit. Her smiling at the crew makes sense cause she knew Alec, so he might have talked to her about his children. It's a familiar face not only known to her but also to us. No, it's not a familiar face to her. Liara probably never set her sights on Alec a single time in her life. Her invitation to the Andromeda was probably a voice mail, like the one she sent back to the Initiative. Otherwise, that conversation, happening via voicemail, has no point in existing. Even as a "think on it" type of answer back, after meeting face to face, it doesn't make sense, as it sounds like an answer back to a previous message, lacking any personal exchange between the two. Unless we want to right it down to the ineptitude of the writers conveying it so. Liara should probably not even remember who the guy that sent her the invitation 600 years ago is even called, less so set eyes on his kids or remember what those looked like, or give two shits about what they've done in Andromeda. They left the galaxy, weren't there to fight the Reapers, or deal with the aftermath, so fuck'em.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 16, 2021 8:43:34 GMT
Both of these looks like the pathfinder suit. Her smiling at the crew makes sense cause she knew Alec, so he might have talked to her about his children. It's a familiar face not only known to her but also to us. No, it's not a familiar face to her. Liara probably never set her sights on Alec a single time in her life. Her invitation to the Andromeda was probably a voice mail, like the one she sent back to the Initiative. Otherwise, that conversation, happening via voicemail, has no point in existing. Even as a "think on it" type of answer back, after meeting face to face, it doesn't make sense, as it sounds like an answer back to a previous message, lacking any personal exchange between the two. Unless we want to right it down to the ineptitude of the writers conveying it so. Liara should probably not even remember who the guy that sent her the invitation 600 years ago is even called, less so set eyes on his kids or remember what those looked like, or give two shits about what they've done in Andromeda. They left the galaxy, weren't there to fight the Reapers, or deal with the aftermath, so fuck'em. Umm yeah. She might not saw them but anyways, the point is the smile is pointed at us and it seems like a hopeful one. That's the important thing.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Feb 16, 2021 8:54:47 GMT
the point is the smile is pointed at us and it seems like a hopeful one The point is that, if she is smiling at Ryder, it is completely out of character, which makes the entire thing cheap, pedestrian and a nod to the viewer, not in-universe Liara. Meaning, Bioware is still on with their bullshit again. If this is the level of writing I am to expect from Ryder's return, no thanks.
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