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Post by Hrulj on Feb 13, 2021 23:23:40 GMT
There is a massive ring world in the trailer for the new game at 18 second mark. It literally surrounds an entire star and is also super thick. The old Citadel is basically nothing compared to it. What role could it play in the new game? Is that the new antagonist race? Is that the new citadel so to speak for citadel races centuries after the games end? Is it something that is once again found?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 13, 2021 23:28:39 GMT
It really isn't all that impressive. The technology shown in the original Mass Effect could easily construct that with enough time, resources and credits to pay for it. For obvious reasons most races don't see the need to waste the money to construct something like that.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 13, 2021 23:32:13 GMT
If it is one.
I hope its just a representation of a dense asteroid field. If its actually a constructed ring of that size its just silly. You would need to liquidate thousands of solar systems at a very low estimate to get close to the material requirements of building that.
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 13, 2021 23:47:37 GMT
It really isn't all that impressive. The technology shown in the original Mass Effect could easily construct that with enough time, resources and credits to pay for it. For obvious reasons most races don't see the need to waste the money to construct something like that. Something hundreds of millions times larger than the sun is easily constructed by Mass effect technology. Pray tell how.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 14, 2021 0:21:57 GMT
It really isn't all that impressive. The technology shown in the original Mass Effect could easily construct that with enough time, resources and credits to pay for it. For obvious reasons most races don't see the need to waste the money to construct something like that. Something hundreds of millions times larger than the sun is easily constructed by Mass effect technology. Pray tell how.
The same way any space station is constructed. Metal, wire, power sources, mass effect generators,etc. Seriously the only difference between a half a mile long space station and a 4,000 mile long space station is the amount of resources needed to construct it.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 14, 2021 9:29:39 GMT
Strange thing is I thought that feature was actually a system in Andromeda. Guess I missed something.
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Post by cribbian on Feb 14, 2021 10:58:40 GMT
Looks like gas and asteroids to me
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Feb 14, 2021 11:23:36 GMT
Strange thing is I thought that feature was actually a system in Andromeda. Guess I missed something. I thought it was the heleus cluster at first, but it could be the sol system. Shinobu said something about it being an alderson disc. Liana from gameinformer also said this: Some have speculated that it could be remnants of the Collector Base that was shot to hell in Mass Effect 2 (which I don't think so given the next sequence of events), while others think that this could be a structural graveyard seen in the wake of Reaper destruction from cycles past. It could also be the remnants of the battle with the Quarians on their way to Andromeda, which will be explored a little further down. Regardless, it is connected to the Omega Nebula, which has its own connection via a Mass Relay within the Mass Effect world.
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Post by traks on Feb 14, 2021 12:11:04 GMT
At that point in the trailer we are just/still going through historic events in the ME timeline, so I don't think it has any meaning for the next game. The structure is still in the background when we hear the hint to the first contact war, so it would be a little bit strange if it's in there for something totally different. There has been speculation though, that it could've something to do with Geth. bsn.boards.net/thread/18642/depth-analysis-visuals-teaser-trailer?page=1
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 14, 2021 12:23:23 GMT
That's an asteroid field.
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Post by traks on Feb 14, 2021 12:28:54 GMT
That's an asteroid field. The OP is talking of this:
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 14, 2021 12:33:26 GMT
That's an asteroid field. The OP is talking of this: I know, I went to check the trailer after seeing this thread. That's an asteroid field.
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Post by traks on Feb 14, 2021 12:40:02 GMT
The OP is talking of this: I know, I went to check the trailer after seeing this thread. That's an asteroid field.
How is THAT ring structure an asteroid field? Those loose fields are at other points in the trailer. At 0:20 it looks like a compact structure with just some loose stuff floating around. But anyways, as I said, I don't think it means anything, because it's way back in the timeline.
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Post by Little Bengel on Feb 14, 2021 13:52:27 GMT
If it were an artificial structure, it'd likely look way smoother than that. Looks more like gas clouds or an asteroid fields than like manmade structures.
Need I remind you of what Saturn's rings look like, and what they're composed of?
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Post by cptdata on Feb 14, 2021 14:58:47 GMT
There is a massive ring world in the trailer for the new game at 18 second mark. It literally surrounds an entire star and is also super thick. The old Citadel is basically nothing compared to it. What role could it play in the new game? Is that the new antagonist race? Is that the new citadel so to speak for citadel races centuries after the games end? Is it something that is once again found? The Geth were about to construct a Dyson Sphere between ME2 and ME3. If constructed around a star of similar size, a Dyson Ring is much smaller and way more feasible.
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Post by traks on Feb 14, 2021 15:07:52 GMT
If it were an artificial structure, it'd likely look way smoother than that. Looks more like gas clouds or an asteroid fields than like manmade structures. Need I remind you of what Saturn's rings look like, and what they're composed of? Agreed that it's likely a natural structure. But it looks robust unlike a usual asteroid field. Not an expert of these things though, so maybe an asteroid field just looks different in my imagination...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 14, 2021 17:44:53 GMT
Could be an accretion disc, either as a new star system forming or after something disastrous happened and destroyed the planets there.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 15, 2021 5:51:56 GMT
Strange thing is I thought that feature was actually a system in Andromeda. Guess I missed something. Found the ones I thought it was in Andromeda: There were two systems in Andromeda that this reminds me of: Pytheas: And Dar'hegah: Maybe its not those but they are the closest to already know star systems that fit the bill
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 15, 2021 16:32:37 GMT
That's an asteroid field. The OP is talking of this: Yeah. That's an asteroid field. Are we not looking at the same picture? Looks like lots of rocks, dust and debris. Or is this the new Liara wrinkle/blue or gold dress discussion
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Post by Shinobu on Feb 15, 2021 19:26:48 GMT
I believe it is an artificial structure and not an accretion disc or asteroid field. Firstly, it is too dense; accretion discs and asteroid fields are traditionally represented as a platterlike cloud of particles that can be seen through when one is sufficiently close. (See Temporal Vanguardian's videos.) This is opaque and doesn't resolve into smaller bits no matter how close the camera gets. Shadows are even seen on its surface. All of the material in our asteroid belt isn't enough to build even one moderately sized planet (it's estimated to total only 4% of the moon's mass), and it's spread over 50 trillion cubic kilometers. The asteroid belt contains so much empty space that even when one is "in" the belt it's hard to find any of the particles. It's not an obstacle course like the one we see in The Empire Strikes Back, and it's definitely not dense enough for us to see shadows on it. www.science.org.au/curious/video/asteroid-belt phys.org/news/2015-08-asteroid-belt.htmlSecondly, there are already planets in this solar system, so it is not a young star system that is creating new worlds. However, I was mistaken when I said that it's an Alderson disc. The original concept was a disc in our solar system that would be a solid structure thousands of miles thick with the outer rim being about the size of Mars or Jupiter's orbit. The inner rim would be within Earth's orbit (I can't find specifics on how far in). The structure would be massive enough that each side would retain its own atmosphere, although a 1000 mile high wall would be needed along the sunward rim to keep the atmosphere from bleeding off into the sun. The inner zone would be too hot for organic life and the outer zone too cold. In the Goldilocks zone (the band around where Earth's orbit would be) there would be biomes on both surfaces. Even this limited livable area would be equal to hundreds of millions of Earths. Oceans could be sandwiched between the two sides of the platter, making them "bottomless" because one could theoretically dive into the ocean on one side and come out on the other side (assuming the temperature and pressure changes could be withstood). The disc we see in the trailer is pretty homogeneous without a visible atmosphere or surface biomes (although we may be too far away to see them). So if there are occupants, maybe they live in the interior rather than on the surface, and this structure is Alderson disc-like but not an Alderson disc. As Ahglock said, an Alderson disc in our solar system would take tremendous amounts of material; one estimate I saw said that it would need all of the matter in a 100 light year radius of Sol to build. This doesn't take into account that one might want specific materials to build with, either. Gathering all of this stuff would take a ridiculous amount of time and effort. However, as we don't know the type of star or the size of the planets seen in middle of the disc the trailer, the amount of material to build that could be much less if the star is smaller and cooler than our sun and the planets are Mercury-sized.
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Post by atricks on Feb 21, 2021 12:08:40 GMT
It probably isnt going around that star. Might just be the perspective of the camera shot?
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Post by zipzap2000 on Feb 21, 2021 12:47:56 GMT
There is a massive ring world in the trailer for the new game at 18 second mark. It literally surrounds an entire star and is also super thick. The old Citadel is basically nothing compared to it. What role could it play in the new game? Is that the new antagonist race? Is that the new citadel so to speak for citadel races centuries after the games end? Is it something that is once again found? This reminds me of "The planet will vomit corpses." Hell of a thread that one.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 21, 2021 17:57:39 GMT
If it is one. I hope its just a representation of a dense asteroid field. If its actually a constructed ring of that size its just silly. You would need to liquidate thousands of solar systems at a very low estimate to get close to the material requirements of building that. Upgraded version of the Citadel? ME3 pretty much left the Citadel and relays a shambles. The Citadel is in the Sol System and they could have worked to rebuild it into something massive, given they didn't know when they might be able to use relays again. In fact, given that [probably] asari, krogan, turians and qurians were stranded on Earth, it might even make sense. Probably not what happened but I like throwing out theories.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 21, 2021 18:16:21 GMT
If it is one. I hope its just a representation of a dense asteroid field. If its actually a constructed ring of that size its just silly. You would need to liquidate thousands of solar systems at a very low estimate to get close to the material requirements of building that. Upgraded version of the Citadel? ME3 pretty much left the Citadel and relays a shambles. The Citadel is in the Sol System and they could have worked to rebuild it into something massive, given they didn't know when they might be able to use relays again. In fact, given that [probably] asari, krogan, turians and qurians were stranded on Earth, it might even make sense. Probably not what happened but I like throwing out theories. Anything is possible and its not like bioware puts much thought into the resources required to develop a plot device. Though realistically no one should be stuck too long, just however long it takes to convert their drives to andromeda engines. But maybe those require plotium and plotium does not exist anywhere near the sol system.
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Post by shermos on Feb 22, 2021 17:08:41 GMT
IIRC, the Geth were building a ring structure around a star to upload their population into. The Quarians destroyed it when they first attacked their space. That was my first thought when I saw the trailer.
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