The Role of the Grey Wardens in Dreadwolf/Tevinter

Well yeah it was Anderfels, but that was apart of Tevinter for a long ass time. And of course the first Grey Wardens were Tevinters themselves

DA4 protagonist: *sighs taking out a notebook* alright, who are we helping on a throne this time? Any other crisis I need to be aware of?

Warden: *sipping tea* nah...just put on the throne who you like the best, or the person that pays you the most, as for crisis...it'll come to you
Hawke: *slumps at table* don't remind me...qunari crisis, mage/templar crisis...another crisis...so much crisis *Warden pats their shoulder as they start mumbling to themselves*
Inquisitor: *fiddling with their crossbow arm* well let's see...possible civil war in the Anderfells, unrest with the Wardens, Nevara, Qunari invading the Tevinter Imperium. And to top it all of...my former companion hellbent on destroying the world, *looks at DA4* you got your work cut out for you buddy

Well we know from recent trailers and concept art that the Wardens are definitely going to be involved in DA4, which is a good thing. We may also be getting a genuine Warden companion in either Davrin (based off the VA) or Evka (based off her involvement in two different stories).

However, I have to say that the plotlines for the Wardens are all over the place and there seems no consistency whatsoever with what we were told at the end of DAI. Even the Warden plot within DAI didn't chime with what occurred in DAA. So we have been told variously:

(DAA) Warden HQ definitely wanted to raise their profile in the south and get more involved with secular affairs. To that end they had an agreement with the monarch of Ferelden after the Blight that the Wardens would occupy Vigil's Keep and be responsible for the welfare and governance of the surrounding area. It meant a great deal to the First Warden that this venture should be a success. They had lines of communication open and would no doubt want to receive regular reports. Essentially if you had a problem with darkspawn or anything Warden related Vigil's Keep would be your first port of call.

(DAI) Leliana thought something was up with the Wardens in Ferelden, so she suggested that the Inquisitor should search out a Warden recruiter named Blackwall to find some answers. Then for some inexplicable reason Hawke also seemed to be involved with the Wardens problems and was helping the only true Warden who was questioning why they were all hearing the Calling at the same time. A codex suggested that Warden Clarel, who was in charge in Orlais, was seeking permission to enter Ferelden from Arl Teagan. The Wardens in Ferelden were taking their orders from her. All this totally ignored the events of DAA. They could at least have Leliana saying that she had approached the Wardens at Vigil's Keep and found them absent or something similar with no other clues as to why. Although that would be odd in itself because it is clear in DAA that we have non Wardens working for our organisation who wouldn't suddenly start running around like headless chickens over hearing the Calling. The Wardens all then depart for Adamant where they are continuing to work on their ridiculous demon army idea. Finally, the Inquisitor defeats Erimond and the Wardens start seeing sense again. Whoever survives the Fade as Warden contact heads off the Weisshaupt to report the matter. In the epilogue, if we banish them (for their own safety in my case) then the entire south turns against the Wardens, whilst there is said to be a rebellion at Warden HQ and all news from there ceases. Or if we recruit them into the Inquisition then these Wardens simply break with HQ and all news from there ceases. This would be circa 9:42.

(Trespasser) We can ask Varric at the beginning of the Exalted Council what became of Hawke. He seems to have heard via his network rather than Hawke direct that Weisshaupt is a mess. That is consistent enough. Then he says he doesn't know how it will play out but he jokes it will likely involve the fortress exploding as Hawke walks away and that's it. That would seem a suitable set up for the next game. Except in the epilogue to Trespasser Hawke is back in Kirkwall with no further explanation as to what is going on in Weisshaupt. I suppose that could be a set up for the next game that would explain why Hawke wasn't there when we arrive. However, this is 9:44. So what was Hawke doing up there for 2 years before the Exalted Council? If Hawke simply left because it was Warden business and they were no longer welcome, why didn't Varric say that at the beginning of Trespasser?

(Last Flight) This takes place for the modern part of the story in the time period from when the mage/Templar war started in 9:40 through until 9:42, so the same period as covered by the events in Inquisition. According to this version of Warden history, Weisshaupt seems to be operating normally, with the leadership concerned about references to blood magic use in their histories. Southern outposts are reporting as normal, including Ferelden, with only Clarel failing to make contact. However, we know from WoT that this can happen from time to time and the leadership do only seem mildly concerned not to have heard from her. Apparently the news that there is trouble in the south caused by an ancient darkspawn Magister recently released from one of their prisons has completely passed them by. Even if the First Warden was keeping quiet about it, according to our War Table missions the events concerning Corypheus are widely known, so you would think it would reach the ears of the rank and file in Weisshaupt without the First Warden needing to tell them. Don't tradespeople gossip when bringing in supplies? Wouldn't missives be pouring into HQ from across the southern states asking what they are going to do abut Corypheus? Not to mention, where is the Warden contact who went north after Adamant? They should have arrived during the time period covered by the novel.

Tevinter Nights/the Next One: The Wardens still seem to be operating normally in Orlais and Nevarra, with no mention of any dissatisfaction with the leadership. The lines of communication are open because Evka and Antoine, who must surely have been recruited after the events of DAI, have been recalled to Weisshaupt. There is absolutely no mention in any of the Warden stories that there has been a break with HQ or the southern Wardens are in rebellion with the leadership.

However, the Behind the Scenes trailer did mention how our next group of heroes will be coping with issues that leaders are ignoring. So I suppose this could be how they manage to bring the Warden plot back into alignment with the end of DAI. Even without Solas, a new threat in the Deep Roads has been identified. If the First Warden is not prepared to commit resources to investigating how serious this threat might be, then that could be the cue for one of the Wardens to seek help elsewhere. That could be where we come in.

I've no doubt we will be travelling to Weisshaupt from the screen shots we have been shown. Further researching the creatures and the means of creating them that were introduced in Horror of Hormack is likely to be what involves us with them. That seems good to me. Not sure if they will pursue the gryphon plot from Last Flight. I'm not sure how fast they grow but it seems unlikely they will be big enough for us to have gryphon mounts. However, it is possible that we will need to rescue them and take them to safety, so will see them if nothing else.

If we're getting a Warden companion...I'm hoping for a female of any race
all the others we've had so far have been human males, having a lady take on this role would be interesting

however, like vertigomez I only want them if they're interesting and not another rehash of the former ones

Bring back Oghren.

I liked the idea of a Qunari Warden who has to balance their devotion to the Qun with the service to the Order, until they have to make a decision, either follow the Qun or the Order, and you can influence their choice through dialogue\approval\etc. Though this sounds way too similar to the Iron Bull's Qun vs. Tal-Vashoth character arc, so... we've seen two dwarves become Wardens, and a Dalish elf... maybe a city elf? Or another Dalish one because Velanna didn't have enough time 'on screen'?

Most likely we'll see one native to the Anderfels, which would be interesting nonetheless since they have their own unique perspectives, what with the Grey Wardens being part of the local politics in the regions... maybe they could also be useful in sharing us some "ancient" Grey Warden lore, tell us who the first Wardens were, etc. (the games don't really tell much about ancient Wardens as one might think)

Also, if they're going to include Wardens in the game, PLEASE let them reference the Hero of Ferelden more. I know we will never see them in a game again (sadly), but hearing about him\her makes sense if we're going to get involved in Warden politics - we're talking about THE Warden, possibly the most important hero of the age, and certainly the most important Warden of the Age. Regardless if the HoF is dead or alive, we should see Wardens either admiring them as a symbol of what a Warden should be and act or using the HoF's prestige and reputation ("the man\woman who stopped the Blight in less than a year") for political gain. If the Warden's alive, I could also see some of the higher ups being suspicious of how they managed to survive the Archdemon. I'm not saying they should pop up in every conversation, but I've seen too many dialogue options about "what do you think of the Wardens?", "what should a Grey Warden be?", without a single reference to the one person who already set an example a decade or so back.

"The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad." I have a feeling that may go beyond merely the bodily corruption that comes from the Joining or the Calling in the mind in later life.



I wouldn't mind meeting Caronel from Last Flight but I doubt he will be an actual companion since we already have a name for him, Davrin, unless we were only hearing the voice of a prominent NPC in that trailer. Nevertheless, if male, it is likely to be Davrin and if female, Evka, given her prominence in the latest stories.

There has been a lot of artwork and other aspects featuring wardens, including shots of what can only be Weisshaupt Fortress so it seems pretty much a given that we are going to see a lot of them next game and likely intertwined with the Solas plot too.

If you think about it, it would break from tradition not to have someone connected with the Wardens in some way among our companions.   Alistair was a proper warden who idolized the Order; Anders was a proper warden who had gone AWOL; Tom Rainier had been recruited by the real Blackwall but just not had the chance to take the Joining before his recruiter was killed, so we just need a warden in DA4 with a different backstory and view of the Wardens than any of them.

I always imagined the DAA companions (barring Anders and Justice) are with the Warden in their search for the cure. Vellana, Oghren, and Nathaniel all have reason to want it, and Sigrun tags along because get worse case she dies but she’s dead anyway.

Those epilogues also can state that Anders stayed with the Wardens for many years, yet he left within one. BioWare told us not to see the epilogue slides as canon but mere rumors.

As for Natalia, I know that BioWare doesn’t like to use the same VA for multiple major roles in their series. Usually one protagonist/crew per. Though since those are her only two roles in games, maybe she didn’t like it and decided to stick to television.

I for one think the idea that Oghren coming back as one of the most important people in Thedas would be amusing. We've had Dwarves that won't stop coming back and Origins characters that keep coming back as more and more important roles.

For a character that gets shoved to the side in most conversations as just "comic relief" he has fought in the 5th Blight, the battle against the Mother, possibly entered the fade as a dwarf twice, married the only living Paragon, and has personally insulted the possible Divine, possible King of Ferelden, daughter of an elven goddess, the assassin currently causing havock for the Antivan Crows and the Arishok. That's quite the resume.

Who else could we have call Solas a "knife-eared pipe-cleaner"?