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Post by Hrulj on Mar 8, 2021 4:01:27 GMT
This isn’t an argument if we should have Shepard as MC or a new character. Merely a discussion on if we do get a new character does there need to be an official transfer of proverbial torch from Shepard onto someone else. A scene where now admiral Shepard talks about or to our new character, or leads him to his first mission akin to Anderson in ME1. Shepard’s personality and looks can of course be imported or set up prior to the beginning as can their important decisions and romances. So a renegade Shepard might give a different intro than a paragon and if he romanced Tali for example she could show up in passing or have a small dialogue scene. Or do you prefer if Shepard is not a character at all and is basically a lore entry or maybe occasionally mentioned by characters or books?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 8, 2021 4:12:03 GMT
I don't think so. Shepard already passed the torch in the Mass Effect 3 endings, trusting the galaxy with their new future even if they'll no longer be a part of it. And everyone thinks the next game will take place beyond Shepard's lifetime even if they survive. So just them being mentioned, maybe having a monument built, would be enough.
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Post by Kyros on Mar 8, 2021 5:46:08 GMT
Or do you prefer if Shepard is not a character at all and is basically a lore entry or maybe occasionally mentioned by characters or books? I prefer this. If I'm not taking control of Shepard I ain't interested and I don't trust Bioware to handle Shepard as an NPC with how they handled Hawke in DAI.
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Post by helios969 on Mar 8, 2021 8:47:46 GMT
It'd be cool but I doubt they'd put this kind of effort in. I mean DAO was universally loved for having playable origins, but have we seen anything like that since? Nope, too much work. DAI really needed a prologue of sorts where you could go around and interact with the Divine and various members of factions. It would have made the destruction and loss of life meaningful. You're supposed to care and feel terrible about the losses but instead feel nothing because of the lack of connection(s).
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Post by cribbian on Mar 8, 2021 9:06:49 GMT
Liara will pass the torch, in a sense, when she embraces eternity with the new character
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 8, 2021 11:54:23 GMT
I don't think so. Shepard already passed the torch in the Mass Effect 3 endings, trusting the galaxy with their new future even if they'll no longer be a part of it. And everyone thinks the next game will take place beyond Shepard's lifetime even if they survive. So just them being mentioned, maybe having a monument built, would be enough. Yeah for m eShep's already don es oif not in theendings then in th epromotional vids for MEA. By tha tI mean this one felt like a goodbye vid from Shep given Jennifer voiced it
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Mar 8, 2021 13:05:21 GMT
Liara will pass the torch, in a sense, when she embraces eternity with the new character Omg lol. Liara looks to the distance: I see my new man Jokes aside i hope not.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 8, 2021 13:07:01 GMT
I think Shepard either being too old (or dead), or possibly being in a position where they’re no longer a front-line combatant would be sufficient.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 19:21:32 GMT
Nope. Shep is a myth now. A legend like Achilles or Hercules. Not even their gender is known. Nor their backstory.
The few that remember are Grunt and Liara, if alive.
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Post by LogicGunn on Mar 10, 2021 19:23:54 GMT
I'm pretty sure my Sheppard is dead, so I can't see how she'd realistically do that after the reaper war.
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Post by Hrulj on Mar 11, 2021 0:44:39 GMT
I'm pretty sure my Sheppard is dead, so I can't see how she'd realistically do that after the reaper war. They'd have to cannonize the ending. Which after failure Andromeda was they'll almost certainly do. My Shepard used neutral option on second conversation with Al Jilani. Unless that is represented I don't think anyone ever deserves to play as Shepard.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 11, 2021 3:40:09 GMT
I'm pretty sure my Sheppard is dead, so I can't see how she'd realistically do that after the reaper war. Mine too.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 11, 2021 5:20:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure my Sheppard is dead, so I can't see how she'd realistically do that after the reaper war. They'd have to cannonize the ending. Which after failure Andromeda was they'll almost certainly do. My Shepard used neutral option on second conversation with Al Jilani. Unless that is represented I don't think anyone ever deserves to play as Shepard. I think there is a much better chance they will ignore the ending regardless of how well the internet proclaims how well Andromeda did, that is even if they go back to the Milky Way.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 11, 2021 6:17:33 GMT
Nah hopefully even if they survived the ending given the direction BioWare will hopefully go in Shepard should be long dead and buried. A lore entry or codex entry would suffice but the torch has already been sufficiently passed off to the next generation.
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Post by traks on Mar 11, 2021 9:35:40 GMT
Shepard is likely dead in the time period of the next game, so no. Just some nice codex entries.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 11, 2021 14:53:15 GMT
I suspect that is the role they intend to give to Liara.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 11, 2021 15:00:29 GMT
I suspect that is the role they intend to give to Liara. *Disgusted noise* Guess that's a possibility of 1/3 red flags raised.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 15:24:18 GMT
No. Shepard was a once-in-a-galaxy figure. The only being in millenia to stop the harvest.
That isn't a passable torch.
Mass Effect is a place, a time, a context. It doesn't need catastrophy to be interesting. It also doesn't need Shepard, although I will imagine myself in his shoes until the end of my days.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 11, 2021 19:05:24 GMT
Nope. Shep is a myth now. A legend like Achilles or Hercules. Not even their gender is known. Nor their backstory. The few that remember are Grunt and Liara, if alive. Are people incapable to do record keeping in ME universe?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 11, 2021 19:20:01 GMT
Nope. Shep is a myth now. A legend like Achilles or Hercules. Not even their gender is known. Nor their backstory. The few that remember are Grunt and Liara, if alive. Are people incapable to do record keeping in ME universe? Salarian's ae rsupposedly good at it according to Aria.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 19:28:27 GMT
Nope. Shep is a myth now. A legend like Achilles or Hercules. Not even their gender is known. Nor their backstory. The few that remember are Grunt and Liara, if alive. Are people incapable to do record keeping in ME universe? Low EMS ending is the way to go. 1000 years later. Rebuilding the Galaxy to fight the Leviathans, discovering the fragmented story of The Reaper War and The Shepard in the process, without being the main focus of the game. Control and Synthesis are finales. High EMS Destroy the galaxy is rebuilt. Low EMS destroy gives you no Mass Relays, destruction of most knowledge, a big galaxy reset.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 11, 2021 20:27:12 GMT
Hah, imagine canonizing the shittiest version of the [arguably] most popular outcome, then retconning Liara’s survival in it. I’d have to boo at their cowardice for not allowing their blue avatar to die along with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 20:46:23 GMT
Hah, imagine canonizing the shittiest version of the [arguably] most popular outcome, then retconning Liara’s survival in it. I’d have to boo at their cowardice for not allowing their blue avatar to die along with it. Hey, Normandy's door opens. We dont know who gets out. Liara's plot armour is stronger than Kai Leng's.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 11, 2021 21:11:24 GMT
Hah, imagine canonizing the shittiest version of the [arguably] most popular outcome, then retconning Liara’s survival in it. I’d have to boo at their cowardice for not allowing their blue avatar to die along with it. Hey, Normandy's door opens. We dont know who gets out. Liara's plot armour is stronger than Kai Leng's. Life found a way. Ask themikefest. He penetrated her plot armor with the power of neglect.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 11, 2021 22:11:16 GMT
Hey, Normandy's door opens. We dont know who gets out. Liara's plot armour is stronger than Kai Leng's. Life found a way. Ask themikefest. He penetrated her plot armor with the power of neglect. Too bad Leng didn't do that on Thessia instead of giving her a ticket to fly on Kai Leng Airlines.
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