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Post by Phantom on Mar 22, 2021 0:46:12 GMT
Well I am interested that Bioware should make ME:5 into a proper ME:Andromeda sequel.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 22, 2021 0:48:22 GMT
I’m not a fan of the thread title since MEA has a good story, but yes ME5 should be a sequel with another good story. There are things left unexplored, like the Jardaan/Opposition Conflict, the Kett, the Mysterious Benefactor, and so on.
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I am Vanguard... Krogan!
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Post by Phantom on Mar 22, 2021 1:31:05 GMT
I’m not a fan of the thread title since MEA has a good story, but yes ME5 should be a sequel with another good story. There are things left unexplored, like the Jardaan/Opposition Conflict, the Kett, the Mysterious Benefactor, and so on. A sequel can be of any quality. but a good story with good game mechanics will attract both old and new. Well One of my actual ideas that have Mama Ryder would be personally responsible for un-earthing the secrets of Jardaan after she wakes up and deals with the knowledge that Alec Ryder. Losing your husband and almost losing your children will hard to bear that is reason she walks off. The player helps Mama Ryder deals with everything. Another Idea is that Ryder twins deals with a New faction that is encouraging a Civil war within Nexus after the ME:A 1
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Post by colfoley on Mar 22, 2021 3:09:56 GMT
I pretty much just want a direct sequel to Andromeda,with Ryder returning, set in the Andromeda Galaxy exclusively...but I will admit I am too intrigued in the idea of them crossing the galaxies to dismiss it out of hand.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 22, 2021 4:09:33 GMT
I pretty much just want a direct sequel to Andromeda,with Ryder returning, set in the Andromeda Galaxy exclusively...but I will admit I am too intrigued in the idea of them crossing the galaxies to dismiss it out of hand. Yeah that's all I want pertty much Ryder returnin gpicking up where we left offin MEA and having an interesting story centering around the things w edicsovered in MEA. Especially as I was intrigued by the Jardaan and the Remnant and the role they my yet play in Andromeda.
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Post by midnightwolf on Mar 22, 2021 4:42:17 GMT
NO!
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 22, 2021 5:39:11 GMT
Returning to Andromeda will be the death of Mass Effect. You can’t improve much at all on a failed lackluster plot for a foundation. You’ll just get disaster 2.0.
ME4 (because MEA doesn’t deserve inclusion with MET) should be in the MW where there’s actually rich, diverse, and complex cultures and lore. You know, what makes Mass Effect, Mass Effect.
Hard and easy no.
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Post by twalicious on Mar 22, 2021 5:52:24 GMT
Ew.
Why anyone wants more of the rotting corpse of Andromeda is beyond me.
The second I see Ryder or hear mention of the AI is the second the exit the game and request a refund.
There's a reason Andromeda was in the junk bin for $5 at your local game store a month after its release.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2021 6:01:41 GMT
Returning to Andromeda will be the death of Mass Effect. You can’t improve much at all on a failed lackluster plot for a foundation. You’ll just get disaster 2.0. ME4 (because MEA doesn’t deserve inclusion with MET) should be in the MW where there’s actually rich, diverse, and complex cultures and lore. You know, what makes Mass Effect, Mass Effect. Hard and easy no. I guess the question BioWare’s yet to answer is whether or not it still has what it takes to make the most of that lore, and have it translate into a proper story. Destiny, for example, has quite a lot of lore attached to it. Problem is, Bungie does fuck-all to make it function as a part of whatever it passes off for a narrative at any given time, so what we’re presented with to tie into gameplay is always particularly shallow, as are its cast of characters. And that’s really the thing. This complex culture and lore will be for nothing unless BioWare actually writes engaging characters and stories to accompany it. The Mass Effect trilogy rode on the momentum of its character writing as well as its presentation, which is why Mass Effect 2 is so beloved, despite the fact that internal logic basically left the chat. I think this was where Andromeda lost some people. It didn’t have quite the same energy and sharpness we were used to, and at times could be fairly tonally dissonant. Point is, the exact same thing could just as well happen in this Milky Way-set game, and lore won’t save it.
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Post by Ameridan on Mar 22, 2021 6:45:16 GMT
Regardless of what others here may think it’s clear that The Andromeda storyline is going to continue in some fashion. You only need to look at the trailer and Twitter to see that.
People need to prepare themselves that ME next could be an attempt to give the Milky Way batter send off by sending off all our fan favourite characters off to Andromeda on Ark six <—- (witch isn’t the nexus or the one of the original five Arks, the Quarian ark was number five!) Andromeda has plenty of potential guys at the end of the day it’s sci-fi it won’t be to hard for the writers to make something up!
But at the same time it could all literally be about the Andromeda initiative failing grabbing everything they have and the Angara jumping on that huge Dyson spare and jumping back to the Milky Way.
It could go ether way.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 22, 2021 7:03:41 GMT
I'm personally not very interested in The Further Adventures of Goofball Ryder and the Bland Brigade. I also don't really need to know who murdered Jien Garson or who the benefactor is.
But then again, a good story can be had in either galaxy, if BioWare has the writers to actually create that story and the management to see it implemented into a good game. Unfortunately, this also works the other way around.
I expect Andromeda to take a backseat because most of the trailer visuals seemed Milky Way related, and the only recognizable character in it, Liara, is not generally associated with Andromeda.
Eh, I'll pick I AM KROGAN!
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Post by themikefest on Mar 22, 2021 7:22:22 GMT
A sequel to to MEA would be MEA2. ME5 would be a sequel to ME4. ME4:Shepard Rebuilds Cerberus. ME5, Shepard becomes the new head of Cerberus. He/she will be known as The Illusive Shepard (TIS).
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Mar 22, 2021 7:30:40 GMT
Sure, MEA was a good game with a good story and I want more of it.
I really dont want more of Shepard, as good as ME1 is for me.
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Post by helios969 on Mar 22, 2021 9:01:37 GMT
Hard no for me unless an MEA sequel is a story written by adults for adults with an all new or mostly new cast of companions...let Jaal return to the cat people, Vetra can work "logistics" for whoever's in charge of the Nexus, Liam can run off to his next adventure career, and PB can go do whatever PB does. I'd be okay with Draak and Cora as returning companions...or not as is seen fit for the next installment. I never really had much issue with Ryder him/herself but more with having my dialogue railroaded down to 2 options half the time and lack of an aggressive option. I will expect a proper "bridge" expansion to act as segue to know they're actually serious about storytelling in Andromeda.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Mar 22, 2021 11:00:39 GMT
I pretty much just want a direct sequel to Andromeda,with Ryder returning, set in the Andromeda Galaxy exclusively... but I will admit I am too intrigued in the idea of them crossing the galaxies to dismiss it out of hand.Me too. I hope we can explore more of the threads that left open at the end, also explore Andromeda too and not only be in the mw but it seems it might be possible to travel back and forth.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Mar 22, 2021 11:23:37 GMT
Regardless of what others here may think it’s clear that The Andromeda storyline is going to continue in some fashion.You only need to look at the trailer and Twitter to see that.People need to prepare themselves that ME next could be an attempt to give the Milky Way batter send off by sending off all our fan favourite characters off to Andromeda on Ark six This. There's a problem though in regards to the crew going to Andromeda. Liara is old and it implies that Ryder reached the mw, so all of the crew except liara and grunt (could be some others here too) are dead. The ark 6 could be indeed the nexus but if it's a new one, I don't know who's in it. It could be a new pc but then again they pretty much confirmed that the person liara looks at is Ryder... I remember one person said "I heard "Godspeed" and all can I think of is that moment of taking off in the Tempest for the first time". Then Michael Gamble said "intentional". Don't know what that means though.
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 22, 2021 11:24:31 GMT
Direct sequel to ME:A. Tell me about the Jardaan, their vaults, the Remnant (wouldn't it be something if the Remnant rebelled against the Jardaan and wiped them out? ), the Kett and the Angara.
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 22, 2021 11:29:35 GMT
Regardless of what others here may think it’s clear that The Andromeda storyline is going to continue in some fashion.You only need to look at the trailer and Twitter to see that.People need to prepare themselves that ME next could be an attempt to give the Milky Way batter send off by sending off all our fan favourite characters off to Andromeda on Ark six This. There's a problem though in regards to the crew going to Andromeda. Liara is old and it implies that Ryder reached the mw, so all of the crew except liara and grunt (could be some others here too) are dead. The ark 6 could be indeed the nexus but if it's a new one, I don't know who's in it. It could be a new pc but then again they pretty much confirmed that the person liara looks at is Ryder... I remember one person said "I heard "Godspeed" and all can I think of is that moment of taking off in the Tempest for the first time". Then Michael Gamble said "intentional". Don't know what that means though. Wrex could also be alive, but that's a big could cause there's several world states where's he's very, very dead. But, and I've made this point before, there's nothing that indicates Krogan die of old age. Literally nothing at all. Drack, for instance, is 1400 years old (!) and all the pains and ailments he has are directly related to damage he took in combat. Every single Krogan that we know of in the games dies from injury. Okeer is even older, aging somewhere between 1500 and 1700 years old and he too, dies from direct damage and not from old age.
They are, in essence, immortal aside from critical damage.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 22, 2021 12:25:40 GMT
Not that interested in Andromeda. The writing/execution of Mass effect andromeda was pretty bad, so its' best to be left to drift into obscurity.
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Post by trinity0 on Mar 22, 2021 13:10:37 GMT
If they really do something in Andromeda i hope they delede SAM once and forever. I don´t want to play a AI again. IMO the reason why many people see Ryder as a whiny brat is, that SAM is doing most of the work and Ryder is more or less SAMs puppet
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Post by Radec on Mar 22, 2021 13:19:12 GMT
All of the things I liked about Andromeda were from the MW (the tech, the few MW species they didn't throw in the trash) and none of the new things (characters, pretentious fish people race, organic borg race with a silly reproductive method that should render them extinct) particularly interested me. The environments for the hub worlds were incredibly bland (desert planet, tundra planet, desert planet 2). I also didn't like the tone of it. The anti militarism was cringe, laughably out of place and didn't fit the previously established setting full of pirates, slavers, hostile species and other nefarious entities in deep space at all at all. The Ryder family focus made the already much smaller small universe feel even smaller. The AI was incredibly annoying and frequently got used as an eye rolling plot device while Ryder (true to name) was unimportant and basically just along for the ride. The goofy Whedonesque snark and hijinks did nothing for me because the characters participating in them never earned my emotional investment (with the exception of peepee and liam, who earned my hatred).
It's not that I don't think the Andromeda setting could be used to tell a decent story and do something interesting with it, but I seriously doubt the ability of BW's current writing staff to do so.
I also don't think that this writing staff would do a decent MW game, so I find the question largely irrelevant. Even if the next game isn't a literal sequel to Andromeda, it will likely be a spiritual one in terms of tone, themes etc, because more of the people making it will be the same ones that made Andromeda, not the MW trilogy. The people who made that one great (well, two of them anyway) are all gone and have been for a decade now.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2021 13:31:24 GMT
If they really do something in Andromeda i hope they delede SAM once and forever. I don´t want to play a AI again. IMO the reason why many people see Ryder as a whiny brat is, that SAM is doing most of the work and Ryder is more or less SAMs puppet I agree that SAM is too much of a dominant force in the story, and if they were to go back, it would need some serious addressing. If it were up to me, I’d have some inciting event force a solution that involves disentangling from SAM, like maybe something happens to the Hyperion and SAM node, and the implant’s abilities are greatly reduced. Maybe SAM could still exist in some form, but it would be more like EDI on the comms than a presence in Ryder’s head, though honestly I wouldn’t weep if SAM was just straight up destroyed either. This would also allow the game to bring back the class system where we can actually specialize rather than be a jack of all trades.
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Post by Radec on Mar 22, 2021 13:47:02 GMT
If they really do something in Andromeda i hope they delede SAM once and forever. I don´t want to play a AI again. IMO the reason why many people see Ryder as a whiny brat is, that SAM is doing most of the work and Ryder is more or less SAMs puppet I agree that SAM is too much of a dominant force in the story, and if they were to go back, it would need some serious addressing. If it were up to me, I’d have some inciting event force a solution that involves disentangling from SAM, like maybe something happens to the Hyperion and SAM node, and the implant’s abilities are greatly reduced. Maybe SAM could still exist in some form, but it would be more like EDI on the comms than a presence in Ryder’s head, though honestly I wouldn’t weep if SAM was just straight up destroyed either. This would also allow the game to bring back the class system where we can actually specialize rather than be a jack of all trades. I thought it was very weird how near everyone in this setting that previously feared and banned AI's was now totally fine with a major leadership figure hooking their brain up to one. Like the only people that ever express even mild concern are Drack (who is just treated as some out of touch grandpa) and that sidequest woman with the disabled son (who is portrayed as a blithering idiot), like there was some major cultural shift I missed even though the AI left the same year as ME2. But that's hardly the only lore from the previous series they forgot about or ignored. MEA's similarity to the other entries in the series basically ends at the IP.
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Post by jrpN7 on Mar 22, 2021 13:50:02 GMT
Returning to Andromeda will be the death of Mass Effect. You can’t improve much at all on a failed lackluster plot for a foundation. You’ll just get disaster 2.0. ME4 (because MEA doesn’t deserve inclusion with MET) should be in the MW where there’s actually rich, diverse, and complex cultures and lore. You know, what makes Mass Effect, Mass Effect. Hard and easy no. I guess the question BioWare’s yet to answer is whether or not it still has what it takes to make the most of that lore, and have it translate into a proper story. Destiny, for example, has quite a lot of lore attached to it. Problem is, Bungie does fuck-all to make it function as a part of whatever it passes off for a narrative at any given time, so what we’re presented with to tie into gameplay is always particularly shallow, as are its cast of characters. And that’s really the thing. This complex culture and lore will be for nothing unless BioWare actually writes engaging characters and stories to accompany it. The Mass Effect trilogy rode on the momentum of its character writing as well as its presentation, which is why Mass Effect 2 is so beloved, despite the fact that internal logic basically left the chat. I think this was where Andromeda lost some people. It didn’t have quite the same energy and sharpness we were used to, and at times could be fairly tonally dissonant. Point is, the exact same thing could just as well happen in this Milky Way-set game, and lore won’t save it. Well, if you think there's high probability of bad writing happening in the MW despite a sound setting and rich lore, then what disaster do you think is going to happen with another Andromeda which has nothing going for it? Even with the bad writing, at least the MW itself would be a breath of fresh air. Obviously, I want good writing, but until BioWare can prove to us it can do that again, they're going to need inspiration and help. That won't come from Andromeda.
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