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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 17:19:25 GMT
I don't see "a lot more accounts" being anything other than a server upgrade, that stuff is all automated by script and despite all of our complaints about lOlrigin, it has mostly worked for most of us well enough to keep playing all these years. Same thing goes here, again IMO, for tracking data between the two "different" games and correlating the information. They already have a decision builder for OT (can't remember its name, never used it), so they would simply have to add flags to the new game's corresponding data points. More work yes, I just don't think any of it is that hard. This is not the hard part of game making, fairly sure I could code this kind of crap with a lackey and some grain alcohol. I am not suggesting a different EA/Origin account than your main, just that MELE ME3MP is seen by their servers as a completely different game. It will have a different install anyways, no assets are used from any old installation. FWIW - some of the things I mentioned in my original post on this topic are being mentioned by fans. These are some suggestions in a petition going around: Finally, to the team - this is an Optional note - Here are some ideas for your team:
1. If you can bring back our old data so we can pick up where we left off, that’ll be excellent. Call it “Spectre Ops” and reward us with some cool items to let us stand out to other players. That’ll be nice. 2. BattlePasses are a thing, and I’m sure many people won’t mind having one. I’d buy it. 3. Reduce the credit cost for boxes in game and increase rewards. You did great QoL adjustments to single player, so please do the same with MP. 4. Crossplay. This will bridge old and new players. If you can do this, it’ll be such a great help to bridge active communities. I am happy for any discussion. They gave fan service, and it has been well received. Doubling down at this point seems like a smart gamble for them.
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My prediction is that it will be a multiplayer-only looter-shooter, based loosely on Anthem. There will be no squad mates, no story, and no single player. Instead players will join some kind of match-making queue system, and be teamed up with two random strangers, to be teleported into a horde mode battle against swarms of enemies. There will also be a prominent cash shop with the opportunity to buy loot boxes, weapons, upgrades and cosmetics for real money.
(Note: I don't necessarily believe this - but I said the same thing about DA:4, and they redacted on all the live service crap and announced it will be a single player game. I'm hoping that if I say the same about ME:5 the evil spirits will be similarly distracted and they won't do any of the stuff I listed above).
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 1:12:46 GMT
My hope is that they abandon MP and use the resources to re-inject into the SP experience. I still firmly believe ME3 would have been more polished if the MP didn't exist.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jun 28, 2021 11:12:23 GMT
Honestly i'm a conflicted about Mass Effect MP because while i loved ME3's MP alot I didn't really care for MEA's MP at all it was disappointing to me.So if EAware can deliver a MP in ME5 that supasses ME3's then i'm down.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jun 28, 2021 11:19:12 GMT
My hope is that they abandon MP and use the resources to re-inject into the SP experience. I still firmly believe ME3 would have been more polished if the MP didn't exist. I dont know ME3 was a grade A cluster**** and it not having MP couldnt salvage that turd it was chaos hell they actually almost forgot Thane was a LI in the game would it have been more polished game maybe but it wouldnt have been any better.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 28, 2021 11:26:15 GMT
Honestly i'm a conflicted about Mass Effect MP because while i loved ME3's MP alot I didn't really care for MEA's MP at all it was disappointing to me. For me it was other way around, love MEAMP and didnt care at all for me3mp, it was a complete disappointment for me. But still, I'd like to have MP in ME5... I understand if its not there though.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 28, 2021 15:03:13 GMT
Honestly i'm a conflicted about Mass Effect MP because while i loved ME3's MP alot I didn't really care for MEA's MP at all it was disappointing to me. For me it was other way around, love MEAMP and didnt care at all for me3mp, it was a complete disappointment for me. But still, I'd like to have MP in ME5... I understand if its not there though. I felt like a lot of the initial balancing of the gear and powers turned people off from the multiplayer. That, and the bugs as well. People were missing the power fantasy element that was present in ME3 MP. It got better, but there were still weapons that were underperforming. I think the devs, at the time, said they wanted a guns rarity to determine its performance in a particular difficulty (i.e. a Common Mantis sniper Rifle would only excel in Bronze Difficulty). Truth be told, the mode was actually starting to improve, and the kits felt more personalized with their passive abilities... Then came Patch 1.06 (maybe 1.07) and the loot bloat that came with it. Absolutely ruined the positive momentum they were building up with previous patches and balance changes. Of course, you then had the games support being discontinued as well.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 28, 2021 15:59:24 GMT
For me it was other way around, love MEAMP and didnt care at all for me3mp, it was a complete disappointment for me. But still, I'd like to have MP in ME5... I understand if its not there though. I felt like a lot of the initial balancing of the gear and powers turned people off from the multiplayer. Truth be told, the mode was actually starting to improve, and the kits felt more personalized with their passive abilities... Of course, you then had the games support being discontinued as well. Yeah I know. Its laughable how some people here still think its the same game they tried the day one or on 1.07... I joined MEAMP on May back then, reading a lot of it from here. There were more balancings later on, which are now the final ones. I started alt account from APEX 0 some time ago and its even then a totally different game than when I started (of course I can play it now much better but still). I enjoy it immensely even with the low level stuff I have on the alt account, and no need to glitch/use console commands to get full gear etc. Just the gameplay is so good for me and because of the pity timer the RNG aint so bad. Cant remember when it was introduced. There are still some known bugs but generally its much less buggy than the previous ones in my opinion. Anthem is the king at the moment anyway if all comes together how it plays. Support was much longer for MEAMP than for SP. We had the bigger missions with crazy enemy groups like many Hydras coming as a group on Silver which made the game level feel more like Platinum, had the gradually opening multipart Remnant Dungeon etc. DiscoBabaloo was doing it I think. He has left the building and the missions needed to be triggered by hand if I remember right, so I dont think anyone left to do it other care than rebooting the servers once in a while.. Anyway, the point stands. I'd like to have MP in ME5  They've now won me to their side with the three latest MP's.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 28, 2021 17:51:15 GMT
I felt like a lot of the initial balancing of the gear and powers turned people off from the multiplayer. Truth be told, the mode was actually starting to improve, and the kits felt more personalized with their passive abilities... Of course, you then had the games support being discontinued as well. Yeah I know. Its laughable how some people here still think its the same game they tried the day one or on 1.07... I joined MEAMP on May back then, reading a lot of it from here. There were more balancings later on, which are now the final ones. I started alt account from APEX 0 some time ago and its even then a totally different game than when I started (of course I can play it now much better but still). I enjoy it immensely even with the low level stuff I have on the alt account, and no need to glitch/use console commands to get full gear etc. Just the gameplay is so good for me and because of the pity timer the RNG aint so bad. Cant remember when it was introduced. There are still some known bugs but generally its much less buggy than the previous ones in my opinion. Anthem is the king at the moment anyway if all comes together how it plays. Support was much longer for MEAMP than for SP. We had the bigger missions with crazy enemy groups like many Hydras coming as a group on Silver which made the game level feel more like Platinum, had the gradually opening multipart Remnant Dungeon etc. DiscoBabaloo was doing it I think. He has left the building and the missions needed to be triggered by hand if I remember right, so I dont think anyone left to do it other care than rebooting the servers once in a while.. Anyway, the point stands. I'd like to have MP in ME5  They've now won me to their side with the three latest MP's. I still remember that one event we had were the match spawned an infinite amount of Mechs. I was fuggin dying at how ridiculous it was. Sucked that it crashed the game though lol
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jun 28, 2021 18:24:06 GMT
Anyway, the point stands. I'd like to have MP in ME5  They've now won me to their side with the three latest MP's. I still remember that one event we had were the match spawned an infinite amount of Mechs. I was fuggin dying at how ridiculous it was. Sucked that it crashed the game though lol Ah was that on the consoles? I dont remember having the game crash on PC - but then again, I dont trust my memory much  The Silver Hydra's were on Sandstorm - I think they were paired with Blaze Hydras and Saboteurs - or Krogan Berserkers, can remember for sure but that was CRAZY mission. So crazy we did it many many times over the time it was on, really fun and challenging.
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Post by biggydx on Jun 28, 2021 19:21:15 GMT
I still remember that one event we had were the match spawned an infinite amount of Mechs. I was fuggin dying at how ridiculous it was. Sucked that it crashed the game though lol Ah was that on the consoles? I dont remember having the game crash on PC - but then again, I dont trust my memory much  The Silver Hydra's were on Sandstorm - I think they were paired with Blaze Hydras and Saboteurs - or Krogan Berserkers, can remember for sure but that was CRAZY mission. So crazy we did it many many times over the time it was on, really fun and challenging. I did indeed play on console.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jul 4, 2021 3:10:29 GMT
My hope is that they abandon MP and use the resources to re-inject into the SP experience. I still firmly believe ME3 would have been more polished if the MP didn't exist. I dont know ME3 was a grade A cluster**** and it not having MP couldnt salvage that turd it was chaos hell they actually almost forgot Thane was a LI in the game would it have been more polished game maybe but it wouldnt have been any better. Still can't believe the production time they were given was only like 2 years.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 22:24:27 GMT
Still can't believe the production time they were given was only like 2 years. The game was, effectively, made in 18 months. As Andromeda and Anthem have showed us, no game should go from full development to launch in 18 months. The game needed double that time, even if it moved it to the PS4/XBONE gen.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jul 12, 2022 19:17:12 GMT
I’m ok with there being a MP component but I don’t want it to touch the SP in any way none.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 12, 2022 23:12:09 GMT
I’m ok with there being a MP component but I don’t want it to touch the SP in any way none.
The same here.
I hated that I play the MP mode in ME3 to keep the EMS and get the breath scene for the Destroy Ending thankfully BioWare patched that and I hated that to get the Skyhold Dragon Decor in DAI I had to play a MP mode that no interest in playing for a reward that only for the SP mode like couldn't the Dragon Decor been the reward for finding all those damn shards or titles?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 13, 2022 4:07:53 GMT
I dont know ME3 was a grade A cluster**** and it not having MP couldnt salvage that turd it was chaos hell they actually almost forgot Thane was a LI in the game would it have been more polished game maybe but it wouldnt have been any better. Still can't believe the production time they were given was only like 2 years. Two years was how long it took between ME2 and ME3. Maybe less if you consider dlc.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Jul 13, 2022 12:37:57 GMT
Still can't believe the production time they were given was only like 2 years. Two years was how long it took between ME2 and ME3. Maybe less if you consider dlc. Honestly to me the production time isn’t really an issue if your creating a crappy game I have extremely low expectations for the next game in the series’s tbh until I know a lot more I’m gonna be hesitant with it.
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Post by helios969 on Aug 10, 2022 6:53:05 GMT
I'm fine with a MP component. ME3MP was great and MEAMP was decent...the latter simply didn't evolve to account for all the mobility...they shouldn't have sandboxed us like they did in ME3MP...should've have been more linear in design with various checkpoints and objectives. I did like be able to earn rewards in the SP for completing MP missions...that was nice. If the teams are largely kept separate there's no reason both cannot be done well...but I do think SP needs to be done well. If the SP is good I think people will naturally migrate to the MP. I also think MP in a ME universe is much easier to accomplish than in a DA world. My 2-cents for what it's worth. 
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 18:32:58 GMT
Make gud gaem, me want play.
SP or MP no much matter, if gud.
If one is gud, uther shud be gud two. If one is gud and one is bad, both look bad. Not gud. Must make gud gaems.
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Post by Spectr61 on Aug 22, 2022 17:30:37 GMT
At the end of the day, many are still playing the hell outta ME3MP.
Blower is probably still getting some revenue from people buying stuff, whilst the SP is basically free.
That should put to right a MP component for the next ME.
Of course, if done correctly....
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I wonder how likely this will be the case, because out of the two franchises, Mass Effect has the wider market appeal and underlying mechanics that would facilitate multiplayer being a standard for the franchise; going forward. While ME3 MP was lightning in a bottle, Andromeda MP didnt fair well (for a number of reasons). You'd also have to set up a cause for "why" we're fighting in multiplayer in the first place. Maybe they could take a page from Halo 4's Spartan Ops instead, which would allow for targeted story experience in a co-op environment. Just a reminder that if you looked at the credits for spartan ops in the MCC, you can see that the best part of Spartan ops, the part that was not just random anime tier enemy spam on multiplayer maps, was episodes 6-10, which were outsourced to some asian studio. Spartan ops was good to play as your own character, but instead of making it the plot of Halo 5, they tried to make a fucking marvel game instead and 343i has a history of insane jealousy and killing any iteration of halo that isn't their dogshit "propaganda" of just taking credit for other people's hard work with how much they are picking from even the cut content of the original RTS iteration of halo now. www.halowaypoint.com/news/cutting-room-floor
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Post by Cyberstrike on Sept 13, 2022 17:39:49 GMT
I would like ME to continue with a MP component (probably an unpopular viewpoint). I love ME3 and MEA combat systems and those were a direct result of MP...though the latter suffered from lack of enemy variation. I think as long as their primary focus is on SP story content it shouldn't be an issue...and they don't try to force people to play by tying MP to SP. Yeah as long as the SP and MP arebeing kept as seperate elements like with MEA I don't see a problem with it. But as you as ysolong as the SP part of the game hasa good story and everything else falls into place as it should I don't have a problem with MP being there. There are several games that have/had MP mode of some degree that no one remembers and/or liked and in some (if not most or all) cases they would've been better off not having a MP mode at all and instead just focusing on SP mode since that was getting all the praise and/or attention to begin with, the reboot of Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Saints Row 2, Saints Row 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, and the original and remastered versions of The Last of Us Part 1 just to name a few. In those cases the MP mode (doesn't matter if PVP, co-op, or whatever) especially with the reboot of Tomb Raider felt like a tacked on POS MP mode that I've heard very little good about.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 13, 2022 18:16:21 GMT
Yeah as long as the SP and MP arebeing kept as seperate elements like with MEA I don't see a problem with it. But as you as ysolong as the SP part of the game hasa good story and everything else falls into place as it should I don't have a problem with MP being there. There are several games that have/had MP mode of some degree that no one remembers and/or liked and in some (if not most or all) cases they would've been better off not having a MP mode at all and instead just focusing on SP mode since that was getting all the praise and/or attention to begin with, the reboot of Tomb Raider, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Saints Row 2, Saints Row 3, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, and the original and remastered versions of The Last of Us Part 1 just to name a few. In those cases the MP mode (doesn't matter if PVP, co-op, or whatever) especially with the reboot of Tomb Raider felt like a tacked on POS MP mode that I've heard very little good about. Yea hI heard the TR 2013MP wa sa bit crap around the time i tcame out but seeing s I neve rplayed it as I generally don' ttouch MP I neve had a problem but then I bought Tr 2013 t oplay as Lara Croft again not for the MP really. I have played MEA's from tim eto time but I'm not ver ygood a tit but I think it's mostly because when playing solo in that mode you d oneed t obe pretty agile and quick on th buttons which ar eboth things I reall ystruggle with so never really survive moer than 1 or 2 waves
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem
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Post by Spectr61 on Sept 21, 2022 18:47:11 GMT
My hope is that they abandon MP and use the resources to re-inject into the SP experience. I still firmly believe ME3 would have been more polished if the MP didn't exist. Probably true. But, do you even Thunderdome baby? Glorious! (And, with the same endings, ME3 SP would have just been a better polished turd.)
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