Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas

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Post by bloodmagereaver on May 1, 2021 0:06:28 GMT

I tried to come up with some gameplay ideas for the next game and so far I ended up with the following:

-Considering it's set some 600+ years in the future, thermal clips will be gone and we will return to the glorious weapon recharge due to improvements in heat control.
-Grenades will be equipment with an exclusive key/button set apart from class powers with the protagonist being able to change their type on loadout stations/mission preparation and having a maximum limit of 6 from the start of the game. Recharge from special stations.
-Ammunition will return to being weapon upgrades you can swap on a loadout stations/mission preparation.
-Powers will each have individual cooldowns but you can combine only three at a time and swap between 4 favorite sets with a cooldown.
-No profiles, only traditional classes with nine powers and three passives.
-Damage resistance and cooldowns works as in Andromeda.
-Unity returns with an exclusive key/button to it and a maximum limit of 12 from the start of the game. Recharge from medi-gel stations.
-Bonuses are cumulative and not multiplicative.

Now to my ideas:

Classes and Powers:

-Adept:
Active Powers:
      -Annihilation
      -Backlash
      -Lance
      -Pull
      -Shockwave
      -Singularity
      -Stasis
      -Throw
      -Warp
Passive Powers:
      -Biotic Mastery
      -Barrier
      -Biotic Echoes

-Soldier:

  Active Powers:

        -Adrenaline Rush
        -Assassination
        -Barricade
        -Carnage
        -Concussive SHot
        -Flak
        -Fortify
        -Proximity Mine
        -Turbocharge
    Passive Powers:

        -Combat Mastery

        -Shields
        -Marksman Focus

-Engineer:

     Active Powers:

        -Combat Drone
        -Cryo Blast
        -Energy Drain
        -Flamethrower
        -Incinerate
        -Invasion
        -Overload
        -Sentry Turret
        -Snap Freeze
    Passive Powers:

        -Tech Mastery

        -Shields
        -Battlefield Systems

-Vanguard:

    Active Powers:

        -Carnage
        -Charge
        -Flak
      -Fortify
        -Lance
        -Nova
        -Pull
        -Shockwave
        -Turbocharge
    Passive Powers:

        -Assault Mastery

        -Barrier

        -Biotic Synergy

-Sentinel:

    Active Powers:

        -Annihilation
        -Backlash
        -Cryo Blast
        -Flamethrower
        -Overload
        -Reave
        -Shield Boost
        -Throw
        -Warp
     Passive Powers:

        -Offensive Mastery

        -Barrier

        -Tech Armor

-Infiltrator:

    Active Powers:

        -Assassination
        -Barricade
        -Energy Drain
        -Incinerate
        -Invasion
        -Proximity Mine
        -Shadow Strike
        -Snap Freeze
        -Tactical Cloak
    Passive Powers:

        -Operational Mastery

        -Shields
        -Tactical Awareness

Powers Detailed:

Adrenaline Rush:
-Improves weapon damage.
-Rather than slowing down time it makes the character faster and improves recharge speeds.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Duration 5s / Weapon damage bonus 50% / Movement speed bonus 30% / Recharge speed bonus 30%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%
-Rank 3: Duration 30%
-Rank 4a: Damage resistance +25
-Rank 4b: Damage & Speed 20%
-Rank 5a: Duration 50%
-Rank 5b: Melee damage bonus 100%
-Rank 6a: Damage resistance +75
-Rank 6b: Recharge speed bonus 50%

Annihilation:

-Primes enemies for biotic detonation and deals damage over time.

-Slows down power recharge speeds while kept active.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 12s / Damage per second 100 / Radius 4m / Recharge speed penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 20%

-Rank 4a: Recharge penalty -30%
-Rank 4b: Radius 50%
-Rank 5a: Affected enemies take +20% damage from all sources
-Rank 5b: User and allies on the radius move 25% faster
-Rank 6a: Damage 80%
-Rank 6b: Restores 30% of user's and allies' shields for every affected enemy killed, shield restoration radius 8m

Assassination:
-Slows down targets and makes them more vulnerable.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Duration 5s / Weak point damage bonus 100% / Enemy slowdown 20%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%
-Rank 3: Duration 30%
-Rank 4a: Duration 40%
-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 35%
-Rank 5a: Defense debuf 15%
-Rank 5b: Enemy slowdown 20%
-Rank 6a: Weak point damage bonus 100%
-Rank 6b: Defense debuf 20%

Backlash:

-Creates a biotic aegis that protects the user from the front and returns projectiles towards enemies.
-Cooldown is proportional to damage taken by the shields.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Aegis health 500 / Projectile damage returned 200% / Frontal damage resistance 100
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Aegis Health 30%

-Rank 4a: Aegis Health 40%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 35%

-Rank 5a: Aegis Health 60%
-Rank 5b: Projectile damage returned 150%
-Rank 6a: Damage bonus after releasing aegis 30% / Damage bonus duration 5s
-Rank 6b: Returns damage absorbed into shields when releasing aegis

Barricade:

-Creates a protective barricade in front of the user and improves shield recharge delay.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Duration 12s / Shield recharge delay bonus 40%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Duration 30%

-Rank 4a: Duration 40%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 35%

-Rank 5a: Weapon damage & accuracy behind barrier 20%

-Rank 5b: Power damage & force behind barrier 40%

-Rank 6a: Barricade eletrocutes nearby enemies with 125 damage per second with 100% damage bonus against shields and barriers
-Rank 6b: Shield recharge delay bonus 60%

Carnage:

-Fires a blast from your weapon that deals increased damage to armor but reduced damage to shields and barriers.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage 400 / Radius 1m / Armor damage bonus 50% / Shield damage penalty 50% / Barrier damage penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 20%

-Rank 4a: Damage 30%

-Rank 4b: Radius 100%

-Rank 5a: Deals 30 fire damage per second for 5 seconds and primes fire explosions for the same duration
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%
-Rank 6a: Damage 50%
-Rank 6b: Armor damage bonus 150%

Charge:

-Launch yourself with a biotic charge against enemies.

-Restore shields and provides brief damage protection.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Damage 300 / Force 600N / Shields restored 50% / Damage resistance 100 / Damage resistance duration 5s
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 30%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 3m
-Rank 5a: Weapon & melee damage bonus after charge 25% / Bonus duration 10s
-Rank 5b: Power damage & force bonus after charge 40% / Bonus duration 10s
-Rank 6a: Recharge speed 70%
-Rank 6b: Damage & force 50% / Shields restored 100%

Combat Drone:

-Summons from your Omni-Tool a drone that fights enemies on your behalf.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Drone attack damage 250 / Drone attack force 250N / Drone attack recharge 3s / Drone health 800
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & health 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & health 40%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 35%
-Rank 5a: Damage & health 50%
-Rank 5b: Drones fires a pulse every 5 seconds over 3m / Pulse damage 200 / Pulse force 1000N
-Rank 6a: Drones fires a missile every 5 seconds / Missile damage 500 / Missile radius 2m / Missile detonates combos
-Rank 6b: Drone's main attack now eletrocutes enemies for 5 seconds priming tech bursts / Shield damage bonus 100% / Barrier damage bonus 100%

Concussive Shot:

-Fires a concussive projectile from your gun that deals increased damage to barriers.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage 300 / Force 300N / Barrier damage bonus 200%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 3m

-Rank 5a: Recharge speed 45%
-Rank 5b: Concussive shot now primes cryo explosions and weakens armor by 50% for 5 seconds.
-Rank 6a: Shield damage bonus 100%
-Rank 6b: Armor damage bonus 100%

Cryo Blast:

-Fires a cryo condensate from your Omni-Tool which damages and freezes enemies.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Damage 400 / Cryo duration 5s / Enemy slowdown 15% / Armor weakening 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 2m

-Rank 5a: Slowdown 15% & Armor weakening 50%
-Rank 5b: Duration 100%
-Rank 6a: Cryo blast becomes a combo detonator
-Rank 6b: Fires two projectiles that seek independent targets

Energy Drain:

-Drains energy from enemies to restore shields.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 12s / Damage 200 / Radius 2m / Shields restored 400 / Shield damage bonus 100% / Barrier damage bonus 100% / Synthetic damage bonus 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & shields restored 40%

-Rank 4a: Damage & shields restored 60%

-Rank 4b: Radius 100%
-Rank 5a: Restores 50 shields per second over 5 seconds and electrocutes them for the same period priming tech bursts
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%
-Rank 6a: Shield & barrier & synthetic damage bonus 100%
-Rank 6b: Gives 75 damage protection for 5 seconds

Flak:

-Fire shells from your gun that explode into shrapnel with reduced damage to armor.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage 200 / Force 200N / Radius 4m / Shrapnel damage 100 / Shrapnel count 4 / Armor damage penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 30%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 40%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 60%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 70%
-Rank 5a: Shrapnel now does 50% shield damage bonus and eletrocutes enemies for 5 seconds priming tech bursts
-Rank 5b: Shrapnel now has no penalty against armor and does 100% damage bonus to it
-Rank 6a: Shrapnes now does 120 damage per second for 5 seconds
-Rank 6b: Flak now deals 50% more shrapnel explosions

Flamethrower:

-Burn your enemies with a continuous stream of flames from your Omni-Tool.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage per second 300 / Duration 5s / Fire damage per second 90 / Fire damage duration 5s / Reach 10m / Radius 2m / Armor damage bonus 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 30%
-Rank 4a: Damage 40%

-Rank 4b: Reach 100%

-Rank 5a: Damage 50%
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 75%

-Rank 6a: Duration 100%
-Rank 6b: Armor damage bonus 150%

Fortify:

-Creates a layer of protection with focault currents and improves melee damage.

-Slows down power recharge speed while kept active.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 4s / Damage resistance 25 / Melee damage bonus 20% / Power recharge penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Melee damage 30%

-Rank 3: Protection +25
-Rank 4a: Melee damage 50%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed penalty -30%
-Rank 5a: Shield recharge delay bonus & shield reneration bonus & health regeneration bonus 25%
-Rank 5b: Power damage & force bonus 30%

-Rank 6a: Protection +75
-Rank 6b: Melee damage bonus 100%

Incinerate:

-Fires a burning projectile from your Omni-Tool which damages and sets enemies on fire.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Damage 400 / Fire damage per second 30 / Fire damage duration 5s / Armor damage bonus 50% / Shield damage penalty 50% / Barrier damage penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 2m

-Rank 5a: Duration 100%
-Rank 5b: Armor damage bonus 75%

-Rank 6a: Incinerate becomes a combo detonator

-Rank 6b: Fires two projectiles that seek independent targets

Invasion:

-Release a swarm of nanomachines which reduce enemies defenses.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Duration 10s / Spread radius / Enemies infected 2 / Defense debuf 25%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Duration 30%

-Rank 4a: Enemies affected 50%

-Rank 4b: Recharge speed 35%
-Rank 5a: Duration & radius 50%

-Rank 5b: Defense debuf 25%

-Rank 6a: Triggers a 500 damage explosion over 3 meters when target's health falls below 10% health
-Rank 6b: Affected enemies deal 30% less damage

Lance:

-Fire a focused biotic blast towards the targed.

-Deals increased damage to weakpoints.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Damage 500 / Force 500N / Radius 1m / Weak point damage bonus 40% / Barrier damage bonus 100%
-Rank 2: Weak point damage 20%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 20%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4b: Radius 100%
-Rank 5a: Weak point damage 60%
-Rank 5b: Shield damage bonus 50%
-Rank 6a: Damage & force 50% / Knockdown unprotected enemies on a 3m radius around the blast
-Rank 6b: Lance is now powered by shields with no cooldown / Shields consumed 40%

Nova:

-Spark a deadly blast from your biotics.

-Deals increased damage to weakpoints.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 12s / Damage 500 / Force 500N / Radius 4m
-Rank 2: Radius 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 50%

-Rank 5a: Armor & barrier damage bonus 100%

-Rank 5b: Shield & barrier damage bonus 100%

-Rank 6a: Damage & force 60% / Primes unprotected enemies
-Rank 6b: Nova is now powered by shields with no cooldown / Shields consumed 100%

Overload:

-Fires a charged electricity shock from your Omni-Tool that chains to additional enemies.
-Deals massive damage to shields and barriers.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Uncharged damage 200 / Charged damage 300 / Chained damage 180 / Chain radius 8m / Chained enemies 2 / Eletrocutes for 5 seconds / Shield damage bonus 100% / Barrier damage bonus 100% / Synthetic damage bonus 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 20%

-Rank 4a: Damage 30%

-Rank 4b: Chains 1 additional target
-Rank 5a: Shield & barrier damage 50%
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%

-Rank 6a: Shield & barrier & synthetic damage bonus 100%

-Rank 6b: Damage 50% / Chains 1 additional target

Proximity Mine:

-Fires from your weapon a highly destructive mine that latches to surfaces and explodes when enemies come close.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 12s / Damage 800 / Trigger radius 1m / Blast radius 4m
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 20%

-Rank 4a: Damage 30%

-Rank 4b: Blast radius 50%

-Rank 5a: Enemies affected by the mine's explosion take 20% more damage from all sources
-Rank 5b: Enemies affected by the mine's explosion become 30% slower
-Rank 6a: Shield & barrier damage bonus 50% / Eletrocutes targets for 5 seconds leaving them primed for tech bursts
-Rank 6b: Recharge speed 75%

Pull:

-Yank the enemy of the ground with your biotics.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 4s / Duration 5s
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 30%

-Rank 3: Duration 50%

-Rank 4a: Duration 100%

-Rank 4b: Radius 3m
-Rank 5a: Deals 75 damage per second to lifted targets
-Rank 5b: Lifted enemies take 30% more damage from all sources
-Rank 6a: Fires two projectiles that seek independent targets

-Rank 6b: Deals 800 damage to shields

Reave:

-Flay the enemy with your biotics for increased damage protection.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage per second 100 / Duration 5s / Damage resistance 25
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Duration 30%

-Rank 4a: Duration 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 3m

-Rank 5a: Damage resistance +50
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%
-Rank 6a: Damage resistance +75
-Rank 6b: Damage & duration 50%

Sentry Turret:

-Deploys a heavy weapon turret for cover fire.

-Player can direct turret to attack targets or make the construct self-destruct.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Turret health 800 / Turret damage per shot 80 / Turret explosion damage 400 / Turret explosion radius 3m
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & health 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & health 40%

-Rank 4b: Explosion damage 100%

-Rank 5a: Recharge speed 75%
-Rank 5b: Creates an Omni-Link that repairs the turret 5% per second and improves power recharge speeds by 25% / Omni-Link radius 10m
-Rank 6a: Damage & health 60% / Turret fires cryo ammo that weakens armor by 100% and sets up cryo explosions / Cryo duration 5s / Priming chance 15%
-Rank 6b: Equips the turret with a 10m range flamethrower that deals 100 damage per second over 5 seconds and primes fire explosions / Fire damage per second 30 / Fire damage duration 5s / Priming chance 15%

Shadow Strike:

-Stealthly redeploys behind a target to deal a massive blow.
-Is considered a melee attack.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage 600 /
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 20%

-Rank 4a: Damage 30%

-Rank 4b: Grants 75 damage resistance for 5 seconds after decloaking
-Rank 5a: Deals 30 electric per second over 5 seconds and electrocutes them for the same period priming tech bursts

-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%

-Rank 6a: Damage 50%

-Rank 6b: Restores 50% shields upon decloaking

Shield Boost:

-Restores your party shields with this ability.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Radius 8m / Initial Shields restored 500 / Shield restored per second 50 / Shield restoration duration 5s
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 30%

-Rank 3: Shields restored 30%

-Rank 4a: Shields restored 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 50%

-Rank 5a: Shields restored 50%
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 50%

-Rank 6a: Duration 100%

-Rank 6b: Gives 75 damage protection for yourself and allies for 5 seconds

Shockwave:
-Fire a biotic shockwave that devastates everything in it's path.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Damage 400 / Force 800N / Radius 2m / Reach 15m
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 50%

-Rank 4b: Radius 100%
-Rank 5a: Increase the damage and radius of combos by 50%
-Rank 5b: Reach 100%
-Rank 6a: Recharge speed 75%

-Rank 6b: Lifts unprotected enemies for 5 seconds priming biotic combos

Singularity:

-Trap and destroy enemies inside a powerful biotic singularity.

-Player can end the effect earlier.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Damage per second 100 / Duration 8s / Radius 4m
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 40%

-Rank 4a: Duration 100%

-Rank 4b: Radius 50%
-Rank 5a: Damage 60%

-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 75%

-Rank 6a: Singularity explodes upon ending causing 800 damage with 800N force across 8m / Explosion detonates power combos
-Rank 6b: Expands the singularity 200% over it's duration

Snap Freeze:

-Flash freeze enemies with this wave of ice.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 10s / Damage 300 / Reach 10m / Radius 2m / Cryo duration 5s / Enemy slowdown 15% / Armor weakening 50%

-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage 40%

-Rank 4b: Reach 100%
-Rank 5a: Slowdown 15% & Armor weakening 50%

-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 75%
-Rank 6a: Duration 100%
-Rank 6b: Enemies deals 30% reduced damage for the next 10 seconds

Stasis:

-Hold the enemy still in a biotic stasis field.

-Doesn't affect armored enemies.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Duration 10s / Damage threshold 500
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Duration 40%

-Rank 4a: Duration 60%

-Rank 4b: Damage threshold 100%

-Rank 5a: Increase the damage and radius of combos by 50%

-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%

-Rank 6a: Creates a 4m stasis bubble that traps multiple enemies
-Rank 6b: Increase the damage threshold by 100% and increase all damage done to the affected target by 50%

Tactical Cloak:
-Employs a stealth device that turns the user invisible and increases damage done to enemies.
-Halts shield regeneration for the duration.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 12s / Duration 8s / Weapon damage bonus 50% / Power damage bonus 30% / Melee damage bonus 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Duration 30%

-Rank 4a: Duration 40%
-Rank 4b: Damage 40%

-Rank 5a: Increase movement speed by 20% while cloaked
-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%
-Rank 6a: Cloak no longer halts shield regeneration
-Rank 6b: Damage 60%

Throw:

-Fire a biotic projectile that deals extreme force.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 6s / Damage 200 / Force 800N
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage & force 30%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 40%

-Rank 4b: Radius 3m
-Rank 5a: Increase the damage and radius of combos by 50%

-Rank 5b: Recharge speed 45%

-Rank 6a: Fires two projectiles that seek independent targets
-Rank 6b: Damage & Force 60%

Turbocharge:

-Dumps heat from your weapon into your armor coolant systems for a brief increase in fire rate and damage.
-Rank 1: Recharge speed 16s / Duration 8s / Weapon damage bonus 10% / Rate of fire bonus 20% / Weapon heat delay bonus 40%

-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Weapon damage 15%

-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 35%%

-Rank 4b: Duration 50%

-Rank 5a: Weapon damage 25%
-Rank 5b: Accuracy & Stability 50%

-Rank 6a: Rate of fire & heat delay 30%
-Rank 6b: Heat delay 100%

Warp:

-Rip your enemy apart with mass effect fields.

-Rank 1: Recharge speed 8s / Initial Damage 300 / Damage per second 30 / Duration 10s / Defense debuf 25% / Armor damage bonus 50% / Barrier damage bonus 100% / Shield damage penalty 50%
-Rank 2: Recharge speed 25%

-Rank 3: Damage 40%

-Rank 4a: Damage 60%

-Rank 4b: Increase the damage and radius of combos by 50%

-Rank 5a: Duration 100%
-Rank 5b: Enemy takes 25% more damage from all sources
-Rank 6a: Armor & barrier damage bonus 75%
-Rank 6b: Recharge speed 75%

Barrier:

-Increase health, shields and melee damage.

-Rank 1: Health bonus 15% / Shield bonus 15% / Melee damage bonus 15%
-Rank 2: Shield reacharge delay bonus 25% / Shield regeneration bonus 25% / Health regeneration bonus 25%
-Rank 3: Health 25% / Shield 25% / Melee damage 25%
-Rank 4a: Health & shields 35%
-Rank 4b: Melee 40%
-Rank 5a: Shield reacharge delay 25% / Shield regeneration 25% / Health regeneration 25%
-Rank 5b: Melee 60%
-Rank 6a: Health & shields 50%
-Rank 6b: Shields restored on biotic kill 10%

Shields:

-Increase health, shields and melee damage.

-Rank 1: Health bonus 15% / Shield bonus 15% / Melee damage bonus 15%

-Rank 2: Shield reacharge delay bonus 25% / Shield regeneration bonus 25% / Health regeneration bonus 25%

-Rank 3: Health 25% / Shield 25% / Melee damage 25%

-Rank 4a: Health & shields 35%

-Rank 4b: Melee 40%

-Rank 5a: Shield reacharge delay 25% / Shield regeneration 25% / Health regeneration 25%

-Rank 5b: Melee 60%

-Rank 6a: Health & shields 50%

-Rank 6b: Shields immediatly recharge upon activating a power with a 10 second cooldown

Biotic Mastery:
-Increase weight capacity, power damage, force and duration.
-Rank 1: Weight capacity 10 / Power damage bonus 10% / Power force bonus 10% / Power duration bonus 10% / Squad power damage bonus 10% / Squad power force bonus 10%
-Rank 2: Weight capacity +10
-Rank 3: Damage & force & duration 10%
-Rank 4a: Damage & force 15%
-Rank 4b: Duration 25%
-Rank 5a: Damage & force 20% / Squad damage & force 20%
-Rank 5b: Weight capacity +30
-Rank 6a: Damage & force 35%
-Rank 6b: Duration 45%

Biotic Echoes:

-Increase power recharge speed, power radius and combo damage.

-Triggers additional biotic explosions from combos, secondary explosions have 40% damage and force
-Rank 1: Power recharge speed bonus 10% / Power radius bonus 10%
-Rank 2: Combo damage & radius 20%
-Rank 3: 20% chance of triggering 2 aditional biotic explosions
-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 20%

-Rank 4b: Radius 30%

-Rank 5a: Combo damage & radius 30%

-Rank 5b: Triggers an additional secondary explosion
-Rank 6a: Combo damage & radius 50%

-Rank 6b: Increases the chances of additional explosions by 30%

Combat Mastery:

-Increase weight capacity, weapon damage, power damage and duration.

-Rank 1: Weight capacity 20 / Weapon damage bonus 5% / Power damage bonus 5% / Power duration bonus 5% / Squad weapon damage bonus 5% / Weak point damage bonus 5%

-Rank 2: Weapon damage 5%
-Rank 3: Weight capacity +30
-Rank 4a: Power and weapon damage 10%

-Rank 4b: Power duration 20%

-Rank 5a: Weapon damage 15% / Squad weapon damage 15%

-Rank 5b: Weak point damage 25%
-Rank 6a: Weight capacity +50
-Rank 6b: Weapon damage 25%

Marksman Focus:

-Increase weapon accuracy, stability and heat delay.

-Grants a temporary damage bonus that stacks on each kill.
-Rank 1: Weapon accuracy bonus 10% / Weapon stability bonus 10%
-Rank 2: Weapon heat delay bonus 20%
-Rank 3: 4% damage bonus for every enemy killed within 8 seconds / 40% maximum damage bonus / Timer resets with every enemy killed
-Rank 4a: Accuracy & stability 30%

-Rank 4b: Damage resistance +25
-Rank 5a: Heat delay bonus 30%
-Rank 5b: Increase damage bonus per kill and maximum damage bonus by 50%
-Rank 6a: Extends the timer of damage per kill by 100%
-Rank 6b: Damage resistance +75

Tech Mastery:

-Increase weight capacity, power damage, force and duration.

-Rank 1: Weight capacity 10 / Power damage bonus 10% / Power force bonus 10% / Power duration bonus 10% / Squad power damage bonus 10% / Squad power force bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Weight capacity +10

-Rank 3: Damage & force & duration 10%

-Rank 4a: Damage & force 15%

-Rank 4b: Duration 25%

-Rank 5a: Damage & force 20% / Squad damage & force 20%

-Rank 5b: Weight capacity +30

-Rank 6a: Damage & force 35%

-Rank 6b: Duration 45%

Battlefield Systems:

-Increase power recharge speed, power radius and combo damage.

-Increases tech construcs health and damage while and deploys a defense drone.
-Rank 1: Power recharge speed bonus 10% / Power radius bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Combo damage & radius 20%

-Rank 3: Construct damage & health 30% / Deploys a defense drone that deals 100 damage with 100 force every 3 seconds against close enemies which are also eletrocuted for 5 seconds
-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 20%

-Rank 4b: Radius 30%

-Rank 5a: Combo damage & radius 30%

-Rank 5b: Construct damage & health 40%
-Rank 6a: Combo damage & radius 50%

-Rank 6b: Construct damage & health 80%

Assault Mastery:

-Increase weight capacity, weapon damage, power damage and force.

-Rank 1: Weight capacity 15 / Weapon damage bonus 2,5% / Power damage bonus 5% / Power force bonus 5% / Squad weapon damage bonus 2,5% / Squad power damage bonus 5%

-Rank 2: Weight capacity +15

-Rank 3: Power damage & force 5% / Weapon damage 2,5%
-Rank 4a: Power damage & force 10%

-Rank 4b: Weapon damage 5%
-Rank 5a: Power damage & force 15% / Weapon damage 7,5% / Squad damage & force 15% / Squad weapon damage 7,5%
-Rank 5b: Weight capacity +45
-Rank 6a: Damage & force 25%

-Rank 6b: Weapon damage 12,5%

Biotic Synergy:

-Increase power recharge speed, shotgun damage and combo damage.

-Increases melee damage, restores shield on melee attacks and reduces shield power consumption.
-Rank 1: Power recharge speed bonus 10% / Shotgun damage bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Combo damage 20%

-Rank 3: Melee damage bonus 50% / 15% shields restored on melee
-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 20%

-Rank 4b: Shotgun damage 20%

-Rank 5a: Combo damage 30%

-Rank 5b: Damage resistance +50
-Rank 6a: Shield cost reduction 50%

-Rank 6b: Additional 50% melee damage bonus / Additional 15% shields restored on melee

Offensive Mastery:

-Increase weight capacity, power damage, duration and decreases shield recharge delay.

-Rank 1: Weight capacity 15 / Power damage bonus 5% / Power duration bonus 5% / Shield recharge delay bonus 5% / Squad power damage bonus 5% / Squad power duration bonus 5%
-Rank 2: Weight capacity +15

-Rank 3: Damage & duration 5% / Shield recharge delay 5%
-Rank 4a: Damage & duration 10%

-Rank 4b: Shield recharge delay 15%

-Rank 5a: Damage & duration 15% / Squad damage & duration 15%

-Rank 5b: Weight capacity +45
-Rank 6a: Damage & duration 25%

-Rank 6b: Shield recharge delay 35%

Tech Armor:
-Increase power recharge speed, power radius and combo damage.

-Increases damage resistance and regeneration.

-Rank 1: Power recharge speed bonus 10% / Power radius bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Combo damage & radius 20%

-Rank 3: Damage resistance +50 / Shield regeneration bonus 30% / Health regeneration bonus 30%
-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 20%

-Rank 4b: Radius 30%

-Rank 5a: Combo damage & radius 30%

-Rank 5b: Damage resistance +75
-Rank 6a: Health & shield regeneration 30%

-Rank 6b: Damage resistance +125

Operational Mastery:

-Increase weight capacity, weapon damage, power damage and weakpoint damage.

-Rank 1: Weight capacity 15 / Weapon damage bonus 2,5% / Power damage bonus 5% / Squad weapon damage bonus 2,5% / Squad power damage bonus 5% / Weak point damage bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Weight capacity +15
-Rank 3: Weapon damage 2,5% / Weak point damage 5%
-Rank 4a: Weapon damage 5%

-Rank 4b: Power damage 10%

-Rank 5a: Weapon damage 7,5% / Power damage 15% / Squad weapon damage 7,5% / Squad power damage 15%
-Rank 5b: Weight capacity +45
-Rank 6a: Weapon damage 12,5%
-Rank 6b: Weak point damage 35%

Tactical Awareness:

-Increase power recharge speed, weapon accuracy, weapon stability and sniper rifle damage.

-Reveals and highlights enemies hidden through smoke and cover and increases movement speed.

-Rank 1: Power recharge bonus 10% / Sniper rifle damage bonus 10%

-Rank 2: Weapon accuracy bonus 20% / Weapon stability bonus 20%
-Rank 3: Movement speed bonus 10% / Enemy reveal radius 30m
-Rank 4a: Recharge speed 20%

-Rank 4b: Sniper rifle damage 20%
-Rank 5a: Accuracy & stability 40%

-Rank 5b: Movement speed 20%
-Rank 6a: Enemy reveal radius 100%
-Rank 6b: Remains cloaked for 3 seconds after attacking

Combo details:

Cryo Explosion	Narrative	Casual	Normal	Veteran	Hardcore	Insanity
Damage	150	300	450	600	750	900
Radius	6m	6m	6m	6m	6m	6m
Enemy slowdown	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%

Fire Explosion	Narrative	Casual	Normal	Veteran	Hardcore	Insanity
Damage	150	300	450	600	750	900
Radius	5m	5m	5m	5m	5m	5m
Armor damage bonus	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%

Tech Burst	Narrative	Casual	Normal	Veteran	Hardcore	Insanity
Damage	150	300	450	600	750	900
Radius	8m	8m	8m	8m	8m	8m
Barrier damage bonus	200%	200%	200%	200%	200%	200%
Shield damage bonus	200%	200%	200%	200%	200%	200%

Combo Primers:

Biotic:
-Annihilation
-Nova*
-Pull
-Reave
-Shockwave*
-Singularity
-Stasis
-Warp

Cryo:
-Concussive Shot*
-Cryo Blast
-Sentry Turret*
-Snap Freeze
-Cryo Ammo
-Freeze Grenade

Fire:
-Carnage*
-Flamethrower
-Incinerate
-Sentry Turret*
-Inferno Ammo
-Inferno Grenade

Tech:
-Barricade*
-Combat Drone*
-Energy Drain*
-Flak*
-Overload
-Proximity Mine*
-Shadow Strike*
-Disruptor Ammo
-Arc Grenade

*Requires upgrade

Combo Detonators:
-Carnage
-Charge
-Combat Drone*
-Concussive Shot
-Cryo Blast*
-Energy Drain
-Incinerate*
-Lance
-Nova
-Overload
-Reave
-Singularity*
-Shockwave
-Throw
-Warp
-Burst Grenade
-Frag Grenade
-Arc Grenade

*Requires upgrade

Grenade details:

Frag Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage	980	1120	1260	1400	1540	1680	1820	1960	2100	2240
Force	980N	1120N	1260N	1400N	1540N	1680N	1820N	1960N	2100N	2240N
Radius	5,25m	6m	6,75m	7,5m	8,25m	9m	9,75m	10,5m	11,25m	12m
Damage per second	49	56	63	70	77	84	91	98	105	112
Duration	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s
Armor damage bonus	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%
Shield damage bonus	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%

Sticky Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage	1572	1800	2025	2250	2475	2700	2925	3150	3375	3600
Force	525N	600N	675N	750N	825N	900N	975N	1050N	1125N	1200N
Radius	1,75m	2m	2,25m	2,5m	2,75m	3m	3,25m	3,5m	3,75m	4m
Armor damage bonus	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%
Shield damage bonus	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%	50%

Inferno Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage per second	140	160	180	200	220	240	260	280	300	320
Radius	4,375m	5m	5,625m	6,25m	6,875m	7,5m	8,125m	8,75m	9,375m	10m
Duration	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s
Armor damage bonus	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%	150%

Arc Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage	560	640	720	800	880	960	1040	1120	1200	1280
Radius	7m	8m	9m	10m	11m	12m	13m	14m	15m	16m
Damage per second	28	32	36	40	44	48	52	56	60	64
Duration	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s
Barrier damage bonus	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%
Shield damage bonus	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%	300%

Freeze Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage	1050	1200	1350	1500	1650	1800	1950	2100	2250	2400
Radius	6,125m	7m	7,875m	8,75m	9,625m	10,5m	11,375m	12,25m	13,125m	14m
Armor weakening	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%
Enemy slowdown	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%	30%
Duration	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s	10s

Burst Grenade	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage	1680	1920	2160	2400	2640	2880	3120	3360	3600	3840
Force	3360N	3840N	4320N	4800N	5280N	5760N	6240N	6720N	7200N	7680N
Radius	3,5m	4m	4,5m	5m	5,5m	6m	6,5m	7m	7,5m	8m
Biotically primed damage bonus	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%

Ammo details:

Armor-Piercing Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage bonus	10%	20%	30%	40%	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	100%
Penetration	0,5m	0,75m	1m	1,25m	1,5m	1,75m	2m	2,25m	2,5m	2,75m
Armor damage bonus	60%	70%	80%	90%	100%	110%	120%	130%	140%	150%

Cryo Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Enemy slowdown	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%	55%	60%
Armor weakening	25%	35%	45%	55%	65%	75%	85%	95%	105%	115%
Duration	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s
Priming chance	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%	55%	60%

Disruptor Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage Bonus	5%	10%	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%
Electricity stun duration	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s
Barrier damage bonus	120%	140%	160%	180%	200%	220%	240%	260%	280%	300%
Shield damage bonus	120%	140%	160%	180%	200%	220%	240%	260%	280%	300%
Priming chance	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%	55%	60%

Explosive Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Percentage of weapon damage	20%	40%	60%	80%	100%	120%	140%	160%	180%	200%
Timer	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s	3s
Explosion radius	1,1m	1,2m	1,3m	1,4m	1,5m	1,6m	1,7m	1,8m	1,9m	2m

Incendiary Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage Bonus	10%	20%	30%	40%	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	100
Percentage of weapon damage per second	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%	25%
Duration	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s
Armor damage bonus	5%	10%	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%
Priming chance	15%	20%	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%	55%	60%

Warp Rounds	I	II	III	IV	V	VI	VII	VIII	IX	X
Damage bonus	15%	30%	45%	60%	75%	90%	105%	120%	135%	150%
Armor weakening	25%	30%	35%	40%	45%	50%	55%	60%	65%	70%
Biotically primed damage bonus	10%	20%	30%	40%	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	100%
Barrier damage bonus	10%	20%	30%	40%	50%	60%	70%	80%	90%	100%
Duration	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s	5s

Congratulations upon reading all of the above, as a fellow huge mass effect fan I hope you can enjoy conceiving future mass effect developments as much as I do!

Feel free to contribute with your own ideas as this thread is meant specifically to imagine gameplay aspects of the next mass effect game!

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Post by RedCaesar97 on May 1, 2021 15:49:21 GMT

This does not seem like the best place for a design document. As such, I will only provide a small list of ideas/game mechanics I would like to see return, expanded upon, or changed in some way. I may expand further on some of these ideas in later posts, who knows?

1. Game difficulty settings. At a minimum: Easy, Normal, Hard. Casual/Narrative difficulty would also be fine.
- On Easy or lower, only Elite or stronger enemies have some sort of protection layer.
- On Normal or higher, all enemies have some sort of protection layer.

2. Protection layers: return to ME2's system of Shields, armor, barriers.
Or at the very least, shields and armor. Barrier could then be a (temporary?) layer on top of shields/armor that provides a flat damage protection bonus.

3. Either bring back ME2's system of weapons having damage bonuses versus various protections, or weapons deal reduced damage to specific protections. For example:
- ME2 style: Carnifex deals 100% damage to shields and 150%/200% to armor.
- Inverted ME2 style: Carnifex deals 50% damage to shields and 100% damage to armor.

4. Power cooldowns on a global cooldown.

5. Stat bonuses from armor should not be tied to wearing specific armor suits or armor pieces. Let me wear the armor I want to wear and pick the stats separately. I do not want to wear specific armor for specific bonuses. Idea:
- You start the game with 0 stat bonuses from armor.
- You can purchase armor pieces/suits from shops. Each armor piece/suit includes stat bonuses (for example, +5% or +10% stat bonus)
- You can then mix/match armor pieces or wear full armor suits that you have purchased.
- You can add/subtract armor bonus stats from the available pool of stats you have purchased with armor. Total bonuses from stats cannot exceed +50% (or whatever depending on the underlying math)

6. Weapon roster should be about ME2 size, give or take a few weapons.

7. I think power evolutions should remain. However, three choices of 2 evolutions is too much, and most of the time there is only one obvious evolution path. I think power evolutions should change to one of the following:
- Back to ME2 style with one choice of 2+ evolutions.
- Two choices of 2 evolutions.
- Two branching evolution paths, with 2 choices each. First evolution is a choice of two evolutions, with each choice leading to a separate choice of 2 different evolutions.

I will stop it there. I have more ideas to discuss, but I think I will save it for another post.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 1, 2021 17:07:29 GMT bloodmagereaver likes this

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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 17:07:29 GMT

OP ... lot of thought put into your ideas ... well done ... taking some of the best from MET and MEA and creating something fresh, possibly better.

Some opinions ...

I would remove Lance from the Adept and add Reave. Mostly because both Warp and Throw can detonate and it seems like the Adept should have Reave, not just the Sentinel. Initially I thought my idea might make the Adept OP, but since the Sentinel has both Reave and Annihilation field primers, I don't think that would be the issue just for the Adept (also, I miss my ME3MP Justicar).

How about a tenth "bonus" power for each class? Maybe that's where Reave comes in for the Adept ... other powers for other classes. I'm not against hard classes, I mostly didn't use profiles in MEA, other than to deal with bugs like Kett clipped behind a wall. But if we are going to go the route of hard classes, the return of a bonus power seems appropriate.

The only other issues I had were with the cooldown options in the skill trees. If they are truly additive and not multipliers to the base, it seems like the result could be zero cooldown in some cases ... I doubt that was your intent ... or I'm just reading it wrong?

Or perhaps there is a min value which cooldown cannot go below? That was a stealth stat BioWare used for some powers that stacked.

Side note, I hope for NME, BioWare doesn't hide a bunch of the stats ... do a better job of describing a power and don't pretend a character limit in the descriptions prevents BioWare from being clear about game mechanics.

Again, good job, I expect BioWare will put a lot of thought into the powers, skill trees, classes, etc. for NME, your ideas are a great starting point.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 1, 2021 22:17:55 GMT

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Post by bloodmagereaver on May 1, 2021 22:17:55 GMT

May 1, 2021 17:07:29 GMT @grinch said:

OP ... lot of thought put into your ideas ... well done ... taking some of the best from MET and MEA and creating something fresh, possibly better.

Some opinions ...

I would remove Lance from the Adept and add Reave. Mostly because both Warp and Throw can detonate and it seems like the Adept should have Reave, not just the Sentinel. Initially I thought my idea might make the Adept OP, but since the Sentinel has both Reave and Annihilation field primers, I don't think that would be the issue just for the Adept (also, I miss my ME3MP Justicar).

How about a tenth "bonus" power for each class? Maybe that's where Reave comes in for the Adept ... other powers for other classes. I'm not against hard classes, I mostly didn't use profiles in MEA, other than to deal with bugs like Kett clipped behind a wall. But if we are going to go the route of hard classes, the return of a bonus power seems appropriate.

The only other issues I had were with the cooldown options in the skill trees. If they are truly additive and not multipliers to the base, it seems like the result could be zero cooldown in some cases ... I doubt that was your intent ... or I'm just reading it wrong?

Or perhaps there is a min value which cooldown cannot go below? That was a stealth stat BioWare used for some powers that stacked.

Side note, I hope for NME, BioWare doesn't hide a bunch of the stats ... do a better job of describing a power and don't pretend a character limit in the descriptions prevents BioWare from being clear about game mechanics.

Again, good job, I expect BioWare will put a lot of thought into the powers, skill trees, classes, etc. for NME, your ideas are a great starting point.

From what I know, recharge speeds work by refilling the power's readiness gauge in terms of units.

Power recharge speeds start with a base value of 1 which means that if the cooldown is 8 units it will refil said power one second at a time.

When you apply a recharge bonus of 130% the base value goes to 2,3 which means that your cooldown will take instead of 8 seconds just 3,48 seconds.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 1, 2021 22:35:37 GMT

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Post by mtheillusive on May 1, 2021 22:35:37 GMT

I can't say what ME5 should be like gameplay wise overall, because imo, based on the story, their should be a complete overhaul.

After the Reaper War, regardless of choice decided (sans Refuse), and also the tech discovered and being utilized by the end of Andromeda (via Remnant), then things should be DRASTICALLY different.

Just like how biotics were a thing and a whole major aspect of gameplay and story, new tech should be as well. ESPECIALLY if you involve anything with Andromeda. Its even hinted at endgame, where they are trying to make the Remnant controlling equivalent of a Biotic. SAM will eventually be figured out and other races, and other humans for that matter, will want upgrades. All new weapons, and much more. On the Milky Way side, whether its from destroyed Reapers, controlled Reapers, or synthesised Reapers, its going to develop all new weapon and tech that FAR more advance than what we've seen so far. Oh, and back to Andromeda, jump jets would most likely have bigger uses, more akin to Anthem in flight most likely.

Thus, naturally, there should be a massive difference in the gameplay, powers, guns, etc. Some things will surely return, but ME5 should play VERY different from the others.

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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 22:41:02 GMT

That's the way I understood it worked …

But I'd always read that described as a multiplier applied to the base … as opposed to being additive.

Add up the various amounts, but then they are used as a multiplier to the base value … hence multiplier.

When referring to it as additive, that's where devs corrected folks, who thought cooldowns should either be lower or gone (or negative).

The issue with undocumented (for the player) min values I mentioned occurred when the multiplier was used in various conditions (sometimes across players in MP) that stacked … because of the calculations across kits, you could get things like 100% damage reduction or zero cooldowns … so they applied min values to prevent those situations.

IIRC, that was the case with some of the options in ME3MP and one of the Volus kits. What I don't remember is … did it start that way with the Volus and the 100% DR was patched to 80% max … or was it always that way, with a max DR of 80%?

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 1, 2021 22:41:58 GMT via mobile AnDromedary, MegaIllusiveMan, and 1 more like this

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Post by Radec on May 1, 2021 22:41:58 GMT

I'd just like some form of stealth mechanics.

Infiltrator is my favourite but it doesn't work as a stealth class so much as an alternate Soldier with a slightly different damage boost.

Go into an area where the enemies are unaware and activate cloak, they spring into action like you just shot at them. It should be a proper aggro dump that can be used to relocate without enemies telepathically knowing where you went as soon as you decloak behind a completely different piece of cover.

Also, silencers should be a weapon mod.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 3, 2021 20:57:30 GMT

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Post by AnDromedary on May 3, 2021 20:57:30 GMT

May 1, 2021 22:41:58 GMT Radec said:

I'd just like some form of stealth mechanics.

Infiltrator is my favourite but it doesn't work as a stealth class so much as an alternate Soldier with a slightly different damage boost.

Go into an area where the enemies are unaware and activate cloak, they spring into action like you just shot at them. It should be a proper aggro dump that can be used to relocate without enemies telepathically knowing where you went as soon as you decloak behind a completely different piece of cover.

Also, silencers should be a weapon mod.

Yes! I would love a stealth mechanic as well! I liked that little stealth segment in the Arrival DLC, even though it was entirely script based. I realize it would be quite the effort to integrate and balance a stealth system into ME gameplay but I'd love to have it.

Otherwise, I think Andromeda's System didn't work too badly in principle (even if the balancing was off in quite few points). Overall, I would be fine with either a class based system or a free system, I don't really care that much.

I would really like to be able to give specific orders to my squad again (including a pause/super slow mode as I open the wheel. IMO it felt really good in ME2/3 and I missed this in Andromeda. It also made your squad feel much more "resent" in the missions, which helped me with bonding.

An then I have another thing that is less about the intricacies of gameplay but more about the general flow of the game. I'd love it if they'd put some unpredictability into the structure of the game. When we fly into a new solar system, it would be great not to know what we'll find there. This was one thing that ME1 really tried to do (and failed somewhat because of the technical limitations and the repetitive environments) and that hasn't really been done afterwords. Take Andromeda for example: When you fly into a new solar system, you either already know that there will be a planet or a mission there (because they are marked as quest locations) or you know you'll just find 2-4 points of interest to scan and then you can move on. This made exploration (the thing the game was supposed to be about) really boring. I want to have a game where I fly into a system and find something different and potentially unexpected. Maybe I'll find a planet that I can explore by vehicle with 1-4 little quests. Maybe I'll find a space station or a derelict freighter with a linear story-based level. Maybe I'll find something akin to an N7 mission. Maybe even another ship calls me and I get to have a small dialogue based quest.

Just keep it unpredictable and try to avoid falling to a formula as unfortunately all the games so far did too often.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 4, 2021 3:31:40 GMT AnDromedary, MegaIllusiveMan, and 2 more like this

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Post by regack on May 4, 2021 3:31:40 GMT

May 3, 2021 20:57:30 GMT AnDromedary said:

Just keep it unpredictable and try to avoid falling to a formula as unfortunately all the games so far did too often.

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Last Edit: May 4, 2021 3:31:54 GMT by regack

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Post by Sanunes on May 4, 2021 3:51:39 GMT

I think the big thing I would push for is the change to the idea that more content doesn't mean good content, but unfortunately from my experiences that is an industry wide problem where the aim is for really long games because people seem to judge the quality of a game based on how many hours they got out of it and not the experience of the quality of the game.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 4, 2021 21:25:10 GMT

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Post by colfoley on May 4, 2021 21:25:10 GMT

Please don't readd classes. Lets not go backwards.

But the one thing so far I want is the whole 'over the shoulder' mechanic in the ghost recon games. That when aiming you can toggle it to where you aren't actually aiming down the sights or not and stays in the third person depending on what weapon you are using.

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Mass Effect 5 Gameplay Ideas May 4, 2021 21:51:35 GMT

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Post by biggydx on May 4, 2021 21:51:35 GMT

I've kinda wanted Dragon Age's Specializations to come to the Mass Effect series. Maybe even have some mission related story elements to them. For example, a player within the Soldier Class could choose to undergo N7 training that would allow them to utilize skills and armor associated with the N7 Destroyer from ME3 MP. A Sentinel could be trained under the N7 Paladin subclass, or an Vanguard being trained under the N7 Fury program. Stuff like that.

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Post by Sanunes on May 5, 2021 17:03:02 GMT

May 4, 2021 21:51:35 GMT biggydx said:

I've kinda wanted Dragon Age's Specializations to come to the Mass Effect series. Maybe even have some mission related story elements to them. For example, a player within the Soldier Class could choose to undergo N7 training that would allow them to utilize skills and armor associated with the N7 Destroyer from ME3 MP. A Sentinel could be trained under the N7 Paladin subclass, or an Vanguard being trained under the N7 Fury program. Stuff like that.

It would be a different way to give players the bonus power. The only thing I think it would require is that BioWare might need to remove the open class approach and I am not sure how well something like that might go over.

Personally I am in the mindset that I would like something between ME3 and MEA where there are seven classes where you have the six from ME1-3 and a Seventh where you pick your skills and can retrain at anytime like they were a bonus skill in ME3. So you couldn't change during a mission, but you could anytime you are at your base.

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Post by biggydx on May 5, 2021 17:43:57 GMT

May 5, 2021 17:03:02 GMT Sanunes said:

May 4, 2021 21:51:35 GMT biggydx said:

I've kinda wanted Dragon Age's Specializations to come to the Mass Effect series. Maybe even have some mission related story elements to them. For example, a player within the Soldier Class could choose to undergo N7 training that would allow them to utilize skills and armor associated with the N7 Destroyer from ME3 MP. A Sentinel could be trained under the N7 Paladin subclass, or an Vanguard being trained under the N7 Fury program. Stuff like that.

It would be a different way to give players the bonus power. The only thing I think it would require is that BioWare might need to remove the open class approach and I am not sure how well something like that might go over.

Personally I am in the mindset that I would like something between ME3 and MEA where there are seven classes where you have the six from ME1-3 and a Seventh where you pick your skills and can retrain at anytime like they were a bonus skill in ME3. So you couldn't change during a mission, but you could anytime you are at your base.

It's always tricky when it comes to balancing class identity and player ability freedom. You want each class to feel like it has it's own benefits and meaning, but having all options for how you want to play could also render the idea of a "class" meaningless. One idea I'm partial to is having selecting a class, and it comes with a preset of specific abilities/passives associated with said class (ex. Adrenaline Rush and Combat Mastery). You then be given the option to choose between a handful of combat related abilities. If you're a hybrid class, you'd get to choose from the ability pools of the two classes that make up your hybrid, but certain abilities would be locked off since their only for hardline classes (Soldier, Adept, and Engineer). The hard part on BioWares end here would be having enough abilities to justify this type of system, as well as giving the hardline class abilities something special that hybrid classes cant enjoy.

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Post by RedCaesar97 on May 5, 2021 19:54:33 GMT

May 5, 2021 17:43:57 GMT biggydx said:

May 5, 2021 17:03:02 GMT Sanunes said:

It would be a different way to give players the bonus power. The only thing I think it would require is that BioWare might need to remove the open class approach and I am not sure how well something like that might go over.

Personally I am in the mindset that I would like something between ME3 and MEA where there are seven classes where you have the six from ME1-3 and a Seventh where you pick your skills and can retrain at anytime like they were a bonus skill in ME3. So you couldn't change during a mission, but you could anytime you are at your base.

It's always tricky when it comes to balancing class identity and player ability freedom. You want each class to feel like it has it's own benefits and meaning, but having all options for how you want to play could also render the idea of a "class" meaningless. One idea I'm partial to is having selecting a class, and it comes with a preset of specific abilities/passives associated with said class (ex. Adrenaline Rush and Combat Mastery). You then be given the option to choose between a handful of combat related abilities. If you're a hybrid class, you'd get to choose from the ability pools of the two classes that make up your hybrid, but certain abilities would be locked off since their only for hardline classes (Soldier, Adept, and Engineer). The hard part on BioWares end here would be having enough abilities to justify this type of system, as well as giving the hardline class abilities something special that hybrid classes cant enjoy.

If you want custom classes again, then I agree with this idea. I believe on the old BSN forums, someone else and myself put forward a similar idea. (My apologies that I cannot recall the other person's forum name. Maybe it was aghlock or Krrks? Again, my apologies if it was you or someone else reading this.)

The idea being that each class would have:
- 1 unique class ability
- 1 or more unique class passives
- 2 or 4 selectable class powers*
- 1 selectable bonus power, if unlocked

* Why 2 or 4 selectable class powers? Since the unique class power is already assigned, do you want 2 more powers (for total of 3 like multiplayer) or 4 more powers (total of 5 like ME2 single player)? This does not include the bonus power which can be any unlocked bonus power of any type.

Pure combat, tech, and biotic classes would have to select their 2 or 4 other class powers from a pool of combat, tech, or biotic abilities. Hybrid classes would first select 1 or 2 abilities from the combat/tech/biotic pool, then select the other 1 or 2 abilities from the other combat/tech/biotic pool.

The game should start with only 4 (non class-unique) combat, tech, and biotic powers unlocked. For example:
- Combat: Incendiary Ammo, Disruptor Ammo, Cryo Ammo, Warp Ammo
- Tech: Overload, Incinerate, Cryo Blast, Combat Scanner
- Biotic: Pull, Throw, Warp, Stasis

You can then unlock other powers throughout the game. Maybe allow starting powers to be unlocked as bonus powers as well (like in ME1, use Overload 75 times to unlock as bonus power for all classes).

The idea the other person I mentioned had was to allow the unique class power to be selectable, like a choice between Marksman and Adrenaline Rush, or Combat Drone and Sentry Turret. Although I do not think you should burden the player with too much choice right at the beginning of the game.

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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 23:48:07 GMT

I fail to see how having classes is "going backwards".

You like the idea of a jack of all trades. I like the idea of the master of one.

Neither of us is right, and neither of us is regressive.

But removing classes is not progress, in any way, shape or form.

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Post by ahglock on May 6, 2021 1:22:20 GMT

May 5, 2021 19:54:33 GMT RedCaesar97 said:

May 5, 2021 17:43:57 GMT biggydx said:

It's always tricky when it comes to balancing class identity and player ability freedom. You want each class to feel like it has it's own benefits and meaning, but having all options for how you want to play could also render the idea of a "class" meaningless. One idea I'm partial to is having selecting a class, and it comes with a preset of specific abilities/passives associated with said class (ex. Adrenaline Rush and Combat Mastery). You then be given the option to choose between a handful of combat related abilities. If you're a hybrid class, you'd get to choose from the ability pools of the two classes that make up your hybrid, but certain abilities would be locked off since their only for hardline classes (Soldier, Adept, and Engineer). The hard part on BioWares end here would be having enough abilities to justify this type of system, as well as giving the hardline class abilities something special that hybrid classes cant enjoy.

If you want custom classes again, then I agree with this idea. I believe on the old BSN forums, someone else and myself put forward a similar idea. (My apologies that I cannot recall the other person's forum name. Maybe it was aghlock or Krrks? Again, my apologies if it was you or someone else reading this.)

The idea being that each class would have:
- 1 unique class ability
- 1 or more unique class passives
- 2 or 4 selectable class powers*
- 1 selectable bonus power, if unlocked

* Why 2 or 4 selectable class powers? Since the unique class power is already assigned, do you want 2 more powers (for total of 3 like multiplayer) or 4 more powers (total of 5 like ME2 single player)? This does not include the bonus power which can be any unlocked bonus power of any type.

I've pushed for something a lot like that.

Basically 1 unique power, (basically the active powers needed a 9 point investment in MEA)

3 passives(I prefer the breakdown like below)

1 unique powers/attacks focused passive.

1 unique defense focused passive.

1 unique melee focused passive.

4 active powers.

1 bonus power when unlocked.

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