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Post by themikefest on Jun 4, 2021 18:36:06 GMT
I wouldn't be okay with Jacob because my Shepard hasn't romanced him, doesn't like him and he didn't fight Saren and Sovereign by her side like Liara did. What? So for a character to do the crap the asari did, the character has to be romanced, liked, and be in ME1? Overall, it didn't make sense for her to be involved in recovering the body. If anything, I would have Shepard survive with minor injuries. Over the next two years, she/he recovers the dogtags of the fallen from the SR1 debris, and spends time trying to find clues that can lead to stopping the reapers. One day, Shepard encounters Miranda on the Citadel. Lawson explains who she is and who she works for. To prove what she is saying, Shepard joins her on Freedoms Progress. After that learns the Alliance isn't making any effort. That upsets Shepard who decides to use the resources provided by Cerberus to stop the collectors. The Alliance doesn't like it, but they agree something needs to be done.
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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 4, 2021 22:13:40 GMT
I wouldn't be okay with Jacob because my Shepard hasn't romanced him, doesn't like him and he didn't fight Saren and Sovereign by her side like Liara did. What? So for a character to do the crap the asari did, the character has to be romanced, liked, and be in ME1? Overall, it didn't make sense for her to be involved in recovering the body. If anything, I would have Shepard survive with minor injuries. Over the next two years, she/he recovers the dogtags of the fallen from the SR1 debris, and spends time trying to find clues that can lead to stopping the reapers. One day, Shepard encounters Miranda on the Citadel. Lawson explains who she is and who she works for. To prove what she is saying, Shepard joins her on Freedoms Progress. After that learns the Alliance isn't making any effort. That upsets Shepard who decides to use the resources provided by Cerberus to stop the collectors. The Alliance doesn't like it, but they agree something needs to be done. No, what I'm saying is it wouldn't make sense for Jacob to do that for Shepard considering he doesn't have the same relationship with Shepard as Liara does, in fact at that time he wouldn't know her at all. Romance or not, the OG crew on the Normandy were close and IMO any of them would have done that for Shepard. People just don't like that it's Liara specifically because hate train and all that jazz—they don't like her and will criticize every single thing she does. That's fine, you do you. No one could have survived loosing oxygen in space though so the story would need to have been changed. Which if that's what you're suggesting, that's cool. We all have things we'd like to change about the story.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 4, 2021 22:34:48 GMT
No, what I'm saying is it wouldn't make sense for Jacob to do that for Shepard considering he doesn't have the same relationship with Shepard as Liara does, in fact at that time he wouldn't know her at all. Romance or not, the OG crew on the Normandy were close and IMO any of them would have done that for Shepard. People just don't like that it's Liara specifically because hate train and all that jazz—they don't like her and will criticize every single thing she does. That's fine, you do you. What I'm saying if everything is the same, would you be ok if it was Jacob instead of t'soni? Even if I liked the asari and/or romanced her, I would still question her about the armor, not telling anyone about the body being in Cerberus hands and so on. I would also end the relationship. I don't agree with you about the others would do the same as what t'soni did. Who said anything about surviving without oxygen?
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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 4, 2021 22:43:19 GMT
No, what I'm saying is it wouldn't make sense for Jacob to do that for Shepard considering he doesn't have the same relationship with Shepard as Liara does, in fact at that time he wouldn't know her at all. Romance or not, the OG crew on the Normandy were close and IMO any of them would have done that for Shepard. People just don't like that it's Liara specifically because hate train and all that jazz—they don't like her and will criticize every single thing she does. That's fine, you do you. What I'm saying if everything is the same, would you be ok if it was Jacob instead of t'soni? Even if I liked the asari and/or romanced her, I would still question her about the armor, not telling anyone about the body being in Cerberus hands and so on. I would also end the relationship. I don't agree with you about the others would do the same as what t'soni did. Who said anything about surviving without oxygen? Of course I would be fine with it. There are definitely a lot of things she could have done differently, like join Shepard again after they took down the SB, and like you said telling someone about it. But then again there was no guarantee they could even bring Shepard back. Honestly there are so many plot holes this is really more of a writing issue, it's like they jammed that in there at the last second and gave a half-assed explanation. But on the flip side I still get it. It was a gamble, a big one, and it paid off in the end. Even if you don't like what she did and the moral implications behind it, Liara's actions still brought Shepard back and the Reapers were defeated in part because of it. I just wished they would have used that as an explanation to justify Liara's actions.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 5, 2021 0:01:20 GMT
People just don't like that it's Liara specifically because hate train and all that jazz—they don't like her and will criticize every single thing she does. Nope. This action of Liara's is part of why I don't like her that much. I liked Liara the first time I played ME2 and ME3, a playthrough which didn't include LotSB. Her selfish actions caused the dislike, not the other way around
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 1:01:29 GMT
I wouldn't be okay with Jacob because my Shepard hasn't romanced him, doesn't like him and he didn't fight Saren and Sovereign by her side like Liara did. What? So for a character to do the crap the asari did, the character has to be romanced, liked, and be in ME1? Overall, it didn't make sense for her to be involved in recovering the body. If anything, I would have Shepard survive with minor injuries. Over the next two years, she/he recovers the dogtags of the fallen from the SR1 debris, and spends time trying to find clues that can lead to stopping the reapers. One day, Shepard encounters Miranda on the Citadel. Lawson explains who she is and who she works for. To prove what she is saying, Shepard joins her on Freedoms Progress. After that learns the Alliance isn't making any effort. That upsets Shepard who decides to use the resources provided by Cerberus to stop the collectors. The Alliance doesn't like it, but they agree something needs to be done. Except then you'd have people complaining saying "game ruined coz MY Shepard would never ally with terrorists!" And that's the problem with games that give too much agency to the player, people run with it and create their own sub-stories. However, the player needs to remember that in order for the story to have any sort of canon, there are bound to be creative-decisions that upset people. For example, I'm someone who wished they could romance Admiral Kohoku from ME:1. How above and beyond he went for his team, he gave his life avenging them. When you discover Cerberus was behind this, naturally my Shepard wanted nothing to do with them. However being forced into the situation I became content as the writer's gave enough agency for Shepard to be like "I don't like it but what choice do I have?" Despite the fact, in my own head, MY Shepard would never align with them. I maintained suspension of disbelief because of the "disgruntled worker" dialogue options we were given. Which is where people have an issue with Liara, and a ton of ME3. Because frequently there are no "relatable options" to some of the creative decisions the writers chose. For instance, don't like Liara? Too bad she's Shepard best buddy and that's that. Romanced Jacob? Too bad and no your Shepard can't get angry and hate him for it. You were a Paragon male Shep that didn't lock in a romance before going to the cafe with Kaidan? Too bad. IMO, Garrus should have been that "best buddy of Shepard" that Liara ended up being. Except the second they gave you the agency to kill him in ME2, it all went out the window. Also, some really great posts in here that have made me think about things more. I'm now halfway through ME3 and I actually don't feel much for Liara anymore. Again for the same reasons as above. I always saw her as the only romance that didn't feel contrived. However, in LotSB you basically have to force the relationship to continue... And then in ME3 you have to tell her you want to be together like twice, so the second time in the Commons it basically feels like she's trying to get out of the relationship but you wont let her. It's so jarring that I stopped seeing Liara at all, and instead just saw a bunch of code that said "ParameterID:Lock-in-Liara-Romance=1". But it wouldn't be the first time something in ME3 wasn't exactly... refined. I've also never done a complete renegade playthrough before. I always end up throwing in some paragon somewhere. So I think I'll either do that and do a Kaidan,Garrus,Garrus, Kaidan, - , Kaidan. Or maybe a Kaidan, Garrus, Kaidan. Although I feel like Garrus would be the better renegade option. Failing that I might do bro shep and a renegade Jack romance. My idea of doing the renegade playthrough is that I want people to die on the Suicide run and I want to be shit enough that I can't make peace between Quarian and Geth. Then the ending might make a bit more sense. Ima stop rambling now.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 5, 2021 1:15:00 GMT
My idea of doing the renegade playthrough is that I want people to die on the Suicide run and I want to be shit enough that I can't make peace between Quarian and Geth. Then the ending might make a bit more sense. Ima stop rambling now. Try doing the playthrough in my signature.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 1:57:05 GMT
My idea of doing the renegade playthrough is that I want people to die on the Suicide run and I want to be shit enough that I can't make peace between Quarian and Geth. Then the ending might make a bit more sense. Ima stop rambling now. Try doing the playthrough in my signature. Had a brief look but felt like I wouldn't need to do the playthrough if I kept reading all of that lol.
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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 5, 2021 4:10:45 GMT
People just don't like that it's Liara specifically because hate train and all that jazz—they don't like her and will criticize every single thing she does. Nope. This action of Liara's is part of why I don't like her that much. I liked Liara the first time I played ME2 and ME3, a playthrough which didn't include LotSB. Her selfish actions caused the dislike, not the other way around Oh yeah I didn’t mean anyone here specially I just mean in general people dislike like Liara without reason because she’s BW’s fave. It’s okay to not like a character for personality and plot reasons. But my best friend hates her and it’s fine we just argue about it daily lmao sgtreed24
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 5, 2021 4:45:21 GMT
I've also never done a complete renegade playthrough before. I always end up throwing in some paragon somewhere. So I think I'll either do that and do a Kaidan,Garrus,Garrus, Kaidan, - , Kaidan. Or maybe a Kaidan, Garrus, Kaidan. Although I feel like Garrus would be the better renegade option. Failing that I might do bro shep and a renegade Jack romance. Do Kaidan, Garrus, Garrus, so in ME2 and ME3 you can give Kaidan a piece of your mind and not have to go crawling back to him Do it. Give in to the calibrations.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 7:01:48 GMT
I've also never done a complete renegade playthrough before. I always end up throwing in some paragon somewhere. So I think I'll either do that and do a Kaidan,Garrus,Garrus, Kaidan, - , Kaidan. Or maybe a Kaidan, Garrus, Kaidan. Although I feel like Garrus would be the better renegade option. Failing that I might do bro shep and a renegade Jack romance. Do Kaidan, Garrus, Garrus, so in ME2 and ME3 you can give Kaidan a piece of your mind and not have to go crawling back to him Do it. Give in to the calibrations. I probably will tbh. The thing is, he's just SUCH a bro... However, when I play I normally take my LI (if possible) and my other favourite characters out on missions to here all their dialogue. And no matter what, Garrus is always in my squad. So maybe i should give in to his calibrations just so I can have one more reason to take him into my squad hehe if you know what I mean... Also, does Kaidan make mention about you being with Garrus? I've never had a mention about my current LI except from the Citadel dlc and a bit of leviathan IIRC.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 7:04:23 GMT
Nope. This action of Liara's is part of why I don't like her that much. I liked Liara the first time I played ME2 and ME3, a playthrough which didn't include LotSB. Her selfish actions caused the dislike, not the other way around Oh yeah I didn’t mean anyone here specially I just mean in general people dislike like Liara without reason because she’s BW’s fave. It’s okay to not like a character for personality and plot reasons. But my best friend hates her and it’s fine we just argue about it daily lmao sgtreed24 That's probably because they romanced a ME2 squad member that got cameo'd in ME3. So they take their anger out on the romance character with the most content.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jun 5, 2021 14:28:14 GMT
So I've played ME through many many times over the years, with many different paths chosen and outcomes reached. But one thing always remained the same. I always romanced Liara.. Aside from BioWare insinuating it's the "canon" choice with the effort they put into the romance. I'd always just felt she did more for you than anyone else did. She was there for you through thick and thin and even risked her life to retrieve your corpse and resurrect you (ala redemption). Not only that but it always excited me tremendously to be involved in a sexual encounter than was something more than just physical sex (mind melding). However, with the Legendary edition, I feel obligated to try and see the game with new eyes. I feel to further broaden my experience with the game, the only thing left for me to do is romance different characters. So I've thought about doing a Kaidan/Garrus/Kaidan or a Kaidan/no one/Kaidan, or a Kaidan/Garrus/Garrus. Except I keep running into issues with how I feel about the characters. Garrus, for starters, has always been totally bro-zoned for me, not only that but the only time to initiate the romance is after he tells you a sex story from his time in the military and I feel like the relationship goes from 0 to 100 at that point, kind of jarring. And while Kaidan doesn't actually turn me off like he does to some girls (being a sort of whiny drama dude), there is one thing that's stopping me from romancing him. It's the way he treats Shepard in ME2 and how unapologetic he is about it in ME3. Not only did he do nothing to try and even recover your body, but he also leaves it to you to basically grovel back to him in ME3 with how you react about the whole Cerberus alliance. What a dick! So while I've metagamed some of the stuff about the relationships, I have no idea about the juicy "ins and outs" of them. I do know that Garrus is the "friends-first" dorky sort of romance while Kaidan is the adult erotic novel romance. However, even as a straight woman IRL, I can't bring myself to romance anyone except Liara. She just did SO much for Shepard that no one else ever did. That and I guess being a nerd myself I can relate to her book smarts a bit. I guess at the end of the day I guess I have two questions. 1. Does it make me less of a Mass Effect fanatic if I've only ever romanced the one character? Whether it be a paragon/renegade or somewhere in between playthrough? Or does the heart just want what it wants? 2. What is your all-time femshep romance and why?
I had the same problem with the original version, so finally I decided to play a 100% renegade and played Shepard as xenophobic as I could she didn't even like to look at Liara, Garrus, Tali, and Wrex much less want to sleep with them, the only problem was playing her this way made Kaiden, who always seemed like a nice guy, kind of desperate at best to downright stupid at worst for sleeping with her. Then ME2 she slept with Jacob more of less for revenge sex against Kaiden who she now saw a loser who dumped her for the Alliance. She never made to ME3 but if she had she probably would've ended up with either Kaiden, Traynor, or Allers.
1) No, if you think Liara is the best romance for Femshep and lets face it she is, because of the writing and the insane chemistry between VAs Jennifer Hale and Ali Hillis.
2) Like you Liara is my favorite and number one romance,. Samantha Traynor is very close second. Kelly Chambers and Diana Allers tied for third. Samara, Kaiden, and Garrus tied for fourth. Jacob and Thane tied for fifth. Mornith and The asari Consort dead last.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 14:54:58 GMT
I had the same problem with the original version, so finally I decided to play a 100% renegade and played Shepard as xenophobic as I could she didn't even like to look at Liara, Garrus, Tali, and Wrex much less want to sleep with them, the only problem was playing her this way made Kaiden, who always seemed like a nice guy, kind of desperate at best to downright stupid at worst for sleeping with her. Then ME2 she slept with Jacob more of less for revenge sex against Kaiden who she now saw a loser who dumped her for the Alliance. She never made to ME3 but if she had she probably would've ended up with either Kaiden, Traynor, or Allers. No, if you think Liara is the best romance for Femshep and lets face it she is, because of the writing and the insane chemistry between VAs Jennifer Hale and Ali Hillis.2) Like you Liara is my favorite and number one romance,. Samantha Traynor is very close second. Kelly Chambers and Diana Allers tied for third. Samara, Kaiden, and Garrus tied for fourth. Jacob and Thane tied for fifth. Mornith and The asari Consort dead last. Haha, Morinth dead last. Tbh, I never even bring Allers onto my ship, although I did this time because I was skipping through her dialogue on the citadel and accidentally gave her a trial run. Boy was I happy when I got the option to kick her off. In fact, I think it was more satisfying than denying her on the citadel to begin with!
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 5, 2021 15:03:13 GMT
Also, does Kaidan make mention about you being with Garrus? He mentions Garrus being physically with you when you see him in ME2 if you bring Garrus along to Horizon, but there is no Garrus romance yet at that point. Tali acknowledges the romance with Garrus in passing in ME3 if you take Garrus and Tali with you to the Geth Dreadnaught. Jack will mention it if you take Garrus to the academy to rescue the biotic students as well (that might depend on Shepard's dialogue choice...don't remember exactly). I looked up whether Kaidan will say anything in ME3, and found a discussion about Kaidan saying you cheated on him. I have vague recollections about Liara saying something similar in LotSB when I did an accidental Liara-Garrus-Garrus playthrough, but I'm not certain.
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Post by jadebaby88 on Jun 5, 2021 15:16:31 GMT
Also, does Kaidan make mention about you being with Garrus? He mentions Garrus being physically with you when you see him in ME2 if you bring Garrus along to Horizon, but there is no Garrus romance yet at that point. Tali acknowledges the romance with Garrus in passing in ME3 if you take Garrus and Tali with you to the Geth Dreadnaught. Jack will mention it if you take Garrus to the academy to rescue the biotic students as well (that might depend on Shepard's dialogue choice...don't remember exactly). I looked up whether Kaidan will say anything in ME3, and found a discussion about Kaidan saying you cheated on him. I have vague recollections about Liara saying something similar in LotSB when I did an accidental Liara-Garrus-Garrus playthrough, but I'm not certain. Yes, Liara actually has a line for each person you cheat on her with in LOTSB.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 5, 2021 15:24:33 GMT
He mentions Garrus being physically with you when you see him in ME2 if you bring Garrus along to Horizon, but there is no Garrus romance yet at that point. Tali acknowledges the romance with Garrus in passing in ME3 if you take Garrus and Tali with you to the Geth Dreadnaught. Jack will mention it if you take Garrus to the academy to rescue the biotic students as well (that might depend on Shepard's dialogue choice...don't remember exactly). I looked up whether Kaidan will say anything in ME3, and found a discussion about Kaidan saying you cheated on him. I have vague recollections about Liara saying something similar in LotSB when I did an accidental Liara-Garrus-Garrus playthrough, but I'm not certain. Yes, Liara actually has a line for each person you cheat on her with in LOTSB. Pfff. She ninjamanced me that time, so she deserved it Maybe one day I'll do a full trilogy Liara romance just to see what all the fuss is about, but Tali is going to come first. I got to reading a bit on Reddit, and found someone explaining their Shepard's roleplay justification for going Kaidan-Garrus-Garrus. Maybe you will find it helpful:
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Maybe it's because I am a straight guy, but I've never been fond of any of the options available to FemShep. They all feel pretty terrible tbh, except Traynor I guess, but I'm not super excited about her either. Best of a bad lot and all that. Not choosing anyone for FemShep is typically what ends up happening, then I feel like I missed out on a nice chunk of content by the end of the trilogy. I guess a valid option would be to RP FemShep as...casually promiscuous? and just bang whoever without caring about their feelings. But then that would just make me feel bad lol.
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I've also never done a complete renegade playthrough before. I always end up throwing in some paragon somewhere. So I think I'll either do that and do a Kaidan,Garrus,Garrus, Kaidan, - , Kaidan. Or maybe a Kaidan, Garrus, Kaidan. Although I feel like Garrus would be the better renegade option. Failing that I might do bro shep and a renegade Jack romance. Do Kaidan, Garrus, Garrus, so in ME2 and ME3 you can give Kaidan a piece of your mind and not have to go crawling back to him Do it. Give in to the calibrations. Or in my case it would be Ash, Ash, Jack....so I can tell Ash to FRO in 3 because she walked away and wouldn't even hear me out. Never done that before, might have to try it. As long as she still agrees to work with me and come aboard to Normandy. I could care less if she gets into Vega's pants.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 6, 2021 18:58:34 GMT
Do Kaidan, Garrus, Garrus, so in ME2 and ME3 you can give Kaidan a piece of your mind and not have to go crawling back to him Do it. Give in to the calibrations. Or in my case it would be Ash, Ash, Jack....so I can tell Ash to FRO in 3 because she walked away and wouldn't even hear me out. Never done that before, might have to try it. As long as she still agrees to work with me and come aboard to Normandy. I could care less if she gets into Vega's pants. You can’t romance Jack in 3 unless you romance her in 2. Same with the other ME2 LIs.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 6, 2021 19:31:31 GMT
Or in my case it would be Ash, Ash, Jack....so I can tell Ash to FRO in 3 because she walked away and wouldn't even hear me out. Never done that before, might have to try it. As long as she still agrees to work with me and come aboard to Normandy. I could care less if she gets into Vega's pants. You can’t romance Jack in 3 unless you romance her in 2. Same with the other ME2 LIs. I know. I was meaning up til Horizon.....Having started a romance with Jack in 2 (behind Ash's back).....then Ash rips me a new one and walks away so I continue my relationship with Jack, becuse the wind in my face will dry my tears. Then when Ash starts grilling me at the start of 3, I give it right back to her and tell her basically "Jack doesn't treat me like a used piece of armour, pick it up and put it on when you want to wear it. Take it off and store it in a locker when you don't need it anymore" and continue to be happy in my relationship with Jack while Ash flirts shamelessly with Vega. If only there was an option to warn Vega about Ash....But nah....I'm not that vengeful type of guy. Clearly she was unhappy and untrusting of Shepard even though he clearly explained his reasons....So if Ash thinks she is happier with Vega (who has his own baggage to deal with from Feld Prime) then go for it. I'm gonna stick with Jack.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 6, 2021 19:49:02 GMT
You can’t romance Jack in 3 unless you romance her in 2. Same with the other ME2 LIs. I know. I was meaning up til Horizon.....Having started a romance with Jack in 2 (behind Ash's back).....then Ash rips me a new one and walks away so I continue my relationship with Jack, becuse the wind in my face will dry my tears. Then when Ash starts grilling me at the start of 3, I give it right back to her and tell her basically "Jack doesn't treat me like a used piece of armour, pick it up and put it on when you want to wear it. Take it off and store it in a locker when you don't need it anymore" and continue to be happy in my relationship with Jack while Ash flirts shamelessly with Vega. If only there was an option to warn Vega about Ash....But nah....I'm not that vengeful type of guy. Clearly she was unhappy and untrusting of Shepard even though he clearly explained his reasons....So if Ash thinks she is happier with Vega (who has his own baggage to deal with from Feld Prime) then go for it. I'm gonna stick with Jack. Ah, okay. I though each name meant the person of that game. And I forgot how bad the Ash flirts with Vega in Citadel were. As I've said, that DLC harmed or ruined pretty much every character. In her case, made her even more of a drunk and a sorority sister.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 6, 2021 21:22:56 GMT
I know. I was meaning up til Horizon.....Having started a romance with Jack in 2 (behind Ash's back).....then Ash rips me a new one and walks away so I continue my relationship with Jack, becuse the wind in my face will dry my tears. Then when Ash starts grilling me at the start of 3, I give it right back to her and tell her basically "Jack doesn't treat me like a used piece of armour, pick it up and put it on when you want to wear it. Take it off and store it in a locker when you don't need it anymore" and continue to be happy in my relationship with Jack while Ash flirts shamelessly with Vega. If only there was an option to warn Vega about Ash....But nah....I'm not that vengeful type of guy. Clearly she was unhappy and untrusting of Shepard even though he clearly explained his reasons....So if Ash thinks she is happier with Vega (who has his own baggage to deal with from Feld Prime) then go for it. I'm gonna stick with Jack. Ah, okay. I though each name meant the person of that game. And I forgot how bad the Ash flirts with Vega in Citadel were. As I've said, that DLC harmed or ruined pretty much every character. In her case, made her even more of a drunk and a sorority sister. I do see the change between 1 and 3, where in 1 she was all "death closes all, but something air the end....." (blah blah blah) and open voiced her belief in God (which is fine, because I share that belief IRL) who as far as I knew (Shepard knew) didn't drink....(though in my most recent PT of 1, after Noveria she did ask me if I wanted to "join her for a drink to celebrate Armistice Day") so clearly she did enjoy a drink every now and then....But then in 3, you find her on the floor of the starboard observation deck, completely past right out and lying next to an empty bottle......Then a few hours later she want to challenge you to a drinking content and won't take no for an answer. So yeah, they kinda did push the 'functional alcoholic' trope with her. In all the times I've played, I never really looked at her character in that light because I always liked her (and still do)... And honestly, I just thought the incident of finding her drunk and past out on the floor was funny as hell, so I overlooked the character writing part of it. But I do see that point, and it's funny now in the sense that the more I think about it that way, the clearer it becomes. As for being a "sorority sister", she'll need the tin foil miniskirt and thigh high boots first. Yeah, she's kinda the "Alliance Version" of Miranda. Jack so aptly called Miranda "the Cerberus Cheerleader"-- and she totally was. Well, I can also see Ash playing that role for the Alliance.
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Post by Shinobu on Jun 10, 2021 15:09:01 GMT
Also, does Kaidan make mention about you being with Garrus? I've never had a mention about my current LI except from the Citadel dlc and a bit of leviathan IIRC. If you romanced Kaidan in 1 and Garrus in 2, there is a very uncomfortable conversation in the hospital in 3 where Kaidan asks Shepard if "there was something between (her) and Garrus." At that point Paragon Shepard *apologizes* and he later "forgives her for cheating." WTF? I never wanted to renegade interrupt someone as badly as I did then. This is why I recommend Kaidan as a sole or ME3 only romance, because his level of entitlement in this conversation is super offputting IMO. I blame the writer, because one of the other two options is "[LIE]What do you mean?" which makes Shepard say "I wouldn't cheat on you, Kaidan" and she has another opportunity to apologize to *him* when he says "You're lying! I know! Everyone knows! And you know what's crazy? I still care about you!" So the writer apparently believes moving on in 2 after being killed and then accused of treason on Horizon is "cheating," God knows why.
Renegade Shepard makes it sound as though Garrus was a rebound because Kaidan hurt her feelings. It's pretty pathetic.
At no point does Shepard have the opportunity to say "You made it abundantly clear you wanted nothing to do with me, and I moved on." The entire conversation is entirely cringeworthy and is better avoided. Here are all the options if you want to be spoiled.
Restarting the romance with Kaidan after being with Garrus in 2:
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 10, 2021 15:31:58 GMT
I"ve never seen this before! Because I have never even batted an eyelash at Jacob Taylor......But this is funny as hell!
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