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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 7, 2021 4:23:02 GMT
I'm bumping it to 2/10 for not discussing about how Miranda would look in a black leather Mistress outfit... Giggity.😍😍😋😋😍😍 Her black catsuit is actually better. I mean the one you get after completing her loyalty mission, not that other ugly thing you had to pay to get. I guess they could have put a whip at her hip for her loyalty but I think Kelly stole it. What?
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 7, 2021 15:30:18 GMT
Lol imagine being upset they removed some gratuitous butt-shots from a video game The real issue is that BW wasted time making the change. My avatar should tell you I have no stake in it but I've got Kaidan's butt shots if I want them. I don't expect it to be removed because someone threw a hissy fit over it. People need to get over themselves and not be offended over absolutely everything. Ignore them and they go away. It's a fact. actually, the funny part is precisely that there is no "real issue". Its butt-shots in a video game, it doesn't matter in any way whatsoever either way
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 15:56:54 GMT
actually, the funny part is precisely that there is no "real issue". Its butt-shots in a video game, it doesn't matter in any way whatsoever either way But 5 people on BanthemEra were offended. They had to change it, don't you see? 5 people! That's like less than 1 in real world metrics. Bioware couldn't stand for it.
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Post by malgus on Jul 7, 2021 17:13:49 GMT
Femme Fatale means more than just seductress. I suggest watching the movie Chinatown, with Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunaway. Dunaway's character, Evelyn Mulwray, has a lot in common with Miranda and doesn't play the part of the seductress, but she is a femme fatale. She is, perhaps, not your traditional femme fatale, as Evelyn is as much one, as well as a deconstruction of one. Miranda, subtly, uses her looks to get what she wants. Hence the butt shots. Miranda purposefully, manipulatively, first tugs at heartstring with the gut wrenching story about her father and her sister and how she needs Shepard's help, all the while leaning over her desk, accentuating her curves and doing it so, in such an "absent-minded" manner (she's not doing that on purpose, is she? She didn't catch me staring, did she?), that you can't help but notice, get lost in the thoughts and promises; if I help her, this could end in my bed. Miranda is calculating and manipulative, cold, as you said, but not unaware of the effect her looks have on others, her particular effect on men and isn't one to shy away from using it. She does the same thing in the comics, to Jacob. Perhaps not as effective when put up against a woman, like female Shepard, but it never hurts and I think I've heard, from quite a few femshep players, that they wanted to romance Miranda, as well. So in quite a few cases, even then, it works. I don't wish to provoke you, but right now you are writing the script for the writers. Do you really think that she is prioritizing showing her butt in this scene, when she is picking up a communicator while time is running out to save her sister. Do you really think she has the mindset of a person that think that THIS is a good moment to make the commander horny? Nope but the camera still decides that it is... somehow. Do you think that just after killing her childhood friend Niket in a tear jerking moment, She is into showing butts to manipulate the commander? That she intend to influence him in a sensual way even if her sister is already saved at that time? That right now her mind is at using her body to make the comander help her while she probably has tons of emotions in her head at the time? When she just has been betrayed and killed someone that was close to her when she was young? Or one of my "favorite" this one. Where Miranda is talking about a conspiracy, that cerberus is working on a huge dangerous project with Henry Lawson (her abusive father) : She is in the complete opposite direction to the commander's eyes. She cannot be manipulating jim with her butt in this scene because she is not showing anything to him, the comander does not look at her ass because it's impossible from his angle. Yet the camera decides to focus on her rear. Why? Are you gonna tell me that this is because of seduction or manipulation even if the only reason we are loooking at her butt is the cinematography forces us to do. The only reason that these shots exist is for the viewers and only for him. Plz man don't write the script for the writers, you are inventing storyline that don't happen in game. It's your headcanon instead of what the writers and programmers in charge of the cinematography did. Do you think that Samara's costume with stupid high heels, form fitting tight leather suit for a woman who does not use seduction and refuse any relationship at any moments was written with consistency in mind? No. It was made because the executives knew that a beautiful woman in a sexy outfit sells regardless if it made sense for the personality of the character or the situation she finds herself in. It was the same thing for the butt shots, there is no deeper meanings you are looking too much into this. It was very common at the time for executives to prioritize fanservice over narratives consistency. And to a degree it still is. Do you think that old bioware was somehow immune to this behavior? And I am not sure if you have read my opening statements because if the only parts of Miranda using her sex appeal and seduction is outside of the main storyline. It means the writers needs to rely on third party media to show a traits of personality of a certain character. So whatever she does in a comic is irrelevant, it's suppose to be a support for the storyline NOT the main base. And as I said before, it does not matter if a few girls were interested in romancing Miranda because of her looks and butt shots, it's subjective. Objectively the writing of the scenes is not a moment for a butt shots. The cinematography might have made many people feel attracted that still does not change anything about the tone of the scenes where these ass shots happens, or the personality and intention of the characters. There are panty shots of woman in the manga highschool of the dead, and they can happen in moments where the heroines are desperatly trying to survive. Do they happen because there is a very deep meaning and they are hopeless prioritizing manipulating a man rather than surviving? Or it's just that the people in charge of the cinematogrpahy were asked by executives to make these gratuious fanservice shots as it sells well to the big markets regardless if they make sense?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 17:34:40 GMT
Do you really think that she is prioritizing showing her butt in this scene, when she is picking up a communicator while time is running out to save her sister. No, I do not, but I'd have a hard time looking elsewhere myself. Do you really think she has the mindset of a person that think that THIS is a good moment to make the commander horny? Nope but the camera still decides that it is... somehow. As Mass Effect: Andromeda said so proudly: "I'm only human, after all". Do you think that just after killing her childhood friend Niket in a tear jerking moment, She is into showing butts to manipulate the commander? That she intend to manipulate him even if her sister is already saved at that time? You have a very persistent drive on the amount of shots we get of Miranda in passing. There are many characters other than Miranda that get butt shots in passing, that I don't even recall where they happen, or in what context, because I don't get offended by male/female ass, nor to the point of becoming absolutely obsessed about it. Yet, you make a specific point about Miranda, which all it tells me is you have some stick somewhere about something, that I don't care to psychoanalyze out of you. You can have your opinion and keep it wherever you want, because you sure made an impression on me, that I don't care to share.
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Post by malgus on Jul 7, 2021 17:44:08 GMT
Do you think that just after killing her childhood friend Niket in a tear jerking moment, She is into showing butts to manipulate the commander? That she intend to manipulate him even if her sister is already saved at that time? You have a very persistent drive on the amount of shots we get of Miranda in passing. There are many characters other than Miranda that get butt shots in passing, that I don't even recall where they happen, or in what context, because I don't get offended by male/female ass, nor to the point of becoming absolutely obsessed about it. Yet, you make a specific point about Miranda, which all it tells me is you have some stick somewhere about something, that I don't care to psychoanalyze out of you. You can have your opinion and keep it wherever you want, because you sure made an impression on me, that I don't care to share. Did You skipped the parts about whataboutism? I recommand you to read again my opening statements and more specifically (if you don't want to read all of it) point 7 and 8 because what you have just said right now, I mention it very specifically.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 17:45:22 GMT
Did You skipped the parts about whataboutism? I recommand you to read again my opening statements and more specifically (if you don't want to read all of it) point 7 and 8 because what you have just said right now, I mention it very specifically. No thanks, you put me off enough.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 7, 2021 18:04:39 GMT
I'm bumping it to 2/10 for not discussing about how Miranda would look in a black leather Mistress outfit... Giggity.😍😍😋😋😍😍 Her black catsuit is actually better. I mean the one you get after completing her loyalty mission, not that other ugly thing you had to pay to get. I guess they could have put a whip at her hip for her loyalty but I think Kelly stole it. What? I like the DLC outfit. Ok, that visor looks a bit weird but at least it somewhat resembles functional armor. I never let her go on missions without it (except her loyalty mission because otherwise Enyala's comment about waiting for her to get dressed makes no sense anymore).
I really don't like to take squad mates who refuse to wear proper armor in combat. It's why Jack barely gets off the ship either. Very glad they gave all squad mates some sort of armor outfit in ME3.
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Post by malgus on Jul 7, 2021 18:14:36 GMT
Did You skipped the parts about whataboutism? I recommand you to read again my opening statements and more specifically (if you don't want to read all of it) point 7 and 8 because what you have just said right now, I mention it very specifically. No thanks, you put me off enough. Ok but just to tell you right now, you have used a classic case of whataboutism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismIt's a fallacy used by people to shift the subjects about something else when someone or something they like receives criticism. In this case I tell you that Miranda butt shots were contradictive to the tone of the story. And you just told me " but what about those other shots on these characters?". Even if what you said is true, that does not dismiss the original arguments. That would just means there would be other character where the cinematography fails at being consistent with the tone. If there was stupid butt shots of James Vega when he is talking about his past where he had to choose between abandonning an entire colony or getting the data on the collector, that would be ridiculous in this serious and dramatic moments. But that would not make the butt shots of Miranda less stupid. It would just means that the cinematography failed a second time. A flaw in the cinematography on a character does not justify doing the very same mistake on another character. But even then, most of the camera shots of ass and boobs in the mass effect franchise happen at very different time, the tone of the scene means everything. Seeing Miranda in her underwear during her last moments of her romance is not the same thing has having the camera focus on her butts when she is warning shepard about a conspiracy that involves cerberus and her father. It just happen that Miranda had many butt shots where it did not suit the tone or the context. But as I said before even if you could find other characters that had something similar, it would just means that BW did the same mistakes elsewhere, that would not make these ass shots less tone deaf than they already are. And guess what? I am not offended by these shots, there is a difference between thinking an element of cinematography is stupid and being offended by it. Is it stupid and contradictive to the tone that Kylo ren gets gratuious ridicilous chest shot during a scene of the last jedi when he talks about Patricide with rey. Absolutely! But does it offend me personaly? Nope. It's the same thing for Miranda Lawson, I actually like the character and the butt shots did not offended me, it just happens that the cinematography failed to be consistent with the tone and was doing a disservice to her character.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Jul 7, 2021 18:36:57 GMT
Her black catsuit is actually better. I mean the one you get after completing her loyalty mission, not that other ugly thing you had to pay to get. I guess they could have put a whip at her hip for her loyalty but I think Kelly stole it. What? I like the DLC outfit. Ok, that visor looks a bit weird but at least it somewhat resembles functional armor. I never let her go on missions without it (except her loyalty mission because otherwise Enyala's comment about waiting for her to get dressed makes no sense anymore).
I really don't like to take squad mates who refuse to wear proper armor in combat. It's why Jack barely gets off the ship either. Very glad they gave all squad mates some sort of armor outfit in ME3.
The problem I have with the DLC armor is that the shoulders and hips look terrible in addition to the visor. They should have gone with something like Femshep or Ashley's armor with a Cerberus paint job. I just write Miranda's outfit off like I do Black Widow's. It has ME equivalent of Stark tech, and just looks like leather. Besides the eye candy helps motivate my male Shepard(s) to keep her whole and safe on the battle field. Just wish squad mates used more than a breather mask in vacuum. The pilot's emergency mask Joker uses in the ME2 opening makes more sense. Liara's mask in ME3 almost makes the cut. It covers her mouth, noes, and what I assume pass for asari ears, but leaves her eyes unprotected.
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Post by ahglock on Jul 7, 2021 18:37:21 GMT
Do you really think that she is prioritizing showing her butt in this scene, when she is picking up a communicator while time is running out to save her sister. No, I do not, but I'd have a hard time looking elsewhere myself. Do you really think she has the mindset of a person that think that THIS is a good moment to make the commander horny? Nope but the camera still decides that it is... somehow. As Mass Effect: Andromeda said so proudly: "I'm only human, after all". Do you think that just after killing her childhood friend Niket in a tear jerking moment, She is into showing butts to manipulate the commander? That she intend to manipulate him even if her sister is already saved at that time? You have a very persistent drive on the amount of shots we get of Miranda in passing. There are many characters other than Miranda that get butt shots in passing, that I don't even recall where they happen, or in what context, because I don't get offended by male/female ass, nor to the point of becoming absolutely obsessed about it. Yet, you make a specific point about Miranda, which all it tells me is you have some stick somewhere about something, that I don't care to psychoanalyze out of you. You can have your opinion and keep it wherever you want, because you sure made an impression on me, that I don't care to share. I'd say yes she is in those cases. People who use their body to manipulate people do it subconsciously, They don't actively think okay now lean in a bit so he can see cleavage, they just do it. It becomes a part of their nature like anything else you do all the time.
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Post by ahglock on Jul 7, 2021 18:39:06 GMT
No thanks, you put me off enough. Ok but just to tell you right now, you have used a classic case of whataboutism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismIt's a fallacy used by people to shift the subjects about something else when someone or something they like receives criticism. In this case I tell you that Miranda butt shots were contradictive to the tone of the story. And you just told me " but what about those other shots on these characters?". Even if what you said is true, that does not dismiss the original arguments. That would just means there would be other character where the cinematography fails at being consistent with the tone. If there was stupid butt shots of James Vega when he is talking about his past where he had to choose between abandonning an entire colony or getting the data on the collector, that would be ridiculous in this serious and dramatic moments. But that would not make the butt shots of Miranda less stupid. It would just means that the cinematography failed a second time. A flaw in the cinematography on a character does not justify doing the very same mistake on another character. But even then, most of the camera shots of ass and boobs in the mass effect franchise happen at very different time, the tone of the scene means everything. Seeing Miranda in her underwear during her last moments of her romance is not the same thing has having the camera focus on her butts when she is warning shepard about a conspiracy that involves cerberus and her father. It just happen that Miranda had many butt shots where it did not suit the tone or the context. But as I said before even if you could find other characters that had something similar, it would just means that BW did the same mistakes elsewhere, that would not make these ass shots less tone deaf than they already are. And guess what? I am not offended by these shots, there is a difference between thinking an element of cinematography is stupid and being offended by it. Is it stupid and contradictive to the tone that Kylo ren gets gratuious ridicilous chest shot during a scene of the last jedi when he talks about Patricide with rey. Absolutely! But does it offend me personaly? Nope. It's the same thing for Miranda Lawson, I actually like the character and the butt shots did not offended me, it just happens that the cinematography failed to be consistent with the tone and was doing a disservice to her character. you wrote a 10,000 word essay about it. You don't do that unless you were offended by it. Also you were wrong.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 7, 2021 19:10:40 GMT
No thanks, you put me off enough. Ok but just to tell you right now, you have used a classic case of whataboutism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismIt's a fallacy used by people to shift the subjects about something else when someone or something they like receives criticism. In this case I tell you that Miranda butt shots were contradictive to the tone of the story. And you just told me " but what about those other shots on these characters?". Even if what you said is true, that does not dismiss the original arguments. That would just means there would be other character where the cinematography fails at being consistent with the tone. If there was stupid butt shots of James Vega when he is talking about his past where he had to choose between abandonning an entire colony or getting the data on the collector, that would be ridiculous in this serious and dramatic moments. But that would not make the butt shots of Miranda less stupid. It would just means that the cinematography failed a second time. A flaw in the cinematography on a character does not justify doing the very same mistake on another character. But even then, most of the camera shots of ass and boobs in the mass effect franchise happen at very different time, the tone of the scene means everything. Seeing Miranda in her underwear during her last moments of her romance is not the same thing has having the camera focus on her butts when she is warning shepard about a conspiracy that involves cerberus and her father. It just happen that Miranda had many butt shots where it did not suit the tone or the context. But as I said before even if you could find other characters that had something similar, it would just means that BW did the same mistakes elsewhere, that would not make these ass shots less tone deaf than they already are. And guess what? I am not offended by these shots, there is a difference between thinking an element of cinematography is stupid and being offended by it. Is it stupid and contradictive to the tone that Kylo ren gets gratuious ridicilous chest shot during a scene of the last jedi when he talks about Patricide with rey. Absolutely! But does it offend me personaly? Nope. It's the same thing for Miranda Lawson, I actually like the character and the butt shots did not offended me, it just happens that the cinematography failed to be consistent with the tone and was doing a disservice to her character. Nice.
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Post by malgus on Jul 7, 2021 19:39:17 GMT
Ok but just to tell you right now, you have used a classic case of whataboutism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhataboutismIt's a fallacy used by people to shift the subjects about something else when someone or something they like receives criticism. In this case I tell you that Miranda butt shots were contradictive to the tone of the story. And you just told me " but what about those other shots on these characters?". Even if what you said is true, that does not dismiss the original arguments. That would just means there would be other character where the cinematography fails at being consistent with the tone. If there was stupid butt shots of James Vega when he is talking about his past where he had to choose between abandonning an entire colony or getting the data on the collector, that would be ridiculous in this serious and dramatic moments. But that would not make the butt shots of Miranda less stupid. It would just means that the cinematography failed a second time. A flaw in the cinematography on a character does not justify doing the very same mistake on another character. But even then, most of the camera shots of ass and boobs in the mass effect franchise happen at very different time, the tone of the scene means everything. Seeing Miranda in her underwear during her last moments of her romance is not the same thing has having the camera focus on her butts when she is warning shepard about a conspiracy that involves cerberus and her father. It just happen that Miranda had many butt shots where it did not suit the tone or the context. But as I said before even if you could find other characters that had something similar, it would just means that BW did the same mistakes elsewhere, that would not make these ass shots less tone deaf than they already are. And guess what? I am not offended by these shots, there is a difference between thinking an element of cinematography is stupid and being offended by it. Is it stupid and contradictive to the tone that Kylo ren gets gratuious ridicilous chest shot during a scene of the last jedi when he talks about Patricide with rey. Absolutely! But does it offend me personaly? Nope. It's the same thing for Miranda Lawson, I actually like the character and the butt shots did not offended me, it just happens that the cinematography failed to be consistent with the tone and was doing a disservice to her character. you wrote a 10,000 word essay about it. You don't do that unless you were offended by it. Also you were wrong. If I was offended by them, I would have written about them long ago, Mass effect 2 was released in 2010. I did it was because it was an opportunity to learn and speak about viewer perception of a character, how cinematography can induce people in error, how much writing and cinematography can contradict themselves, etc. And I was actually surprised how much people got upset over changes of the legendary edition and the comments I have read made me realize how much people were certain that Miranda was a seductress all along even if she clearly isn't, I did not know it mattered to people that much. Visuals, sound design and writing is a fascinating subjects in itself and how they can contradict each other and misinform the viewer is an interesting topic itself. Many were writing the script for the writers like you just did in a previous comment, their headcanon made Miranda suddenly trying to manipulates shepard because she walks and benches over a chair... Even if there is tons of butt shots where the situation is clearly not the tone for such things but the camera decides it's a good moment to show how big of an ass she has. Even when it is an emergency (both of them in an elevator, Orianna is about to be kidnapped and time is running out), Miranda just shot her childhood friends after he betrayed her (totally a "good" mood for fanservice), or she is warning the comander about a dangerous project where cerberus and her father make an alliance AND she is clearly looking at him in the face and shepard cannot look at her butt... Maybe she is subscounsly manipulating the comander at that time... with her ass that cannot be seen by shepard : Plz enlighten me, tell me where the manipulation is in this scene. Tell me how she subcounsly manipulates the commander with her ass at this moment. You want defend these ass shots, answer this question. These are just movement of the characters for the scene to feel alive and not being too static, it's a cinematic approach and nothing else. Just like garrus moves in his scene where you speak with him, he walks goes to a point or another in his calibrating room. Of course I could write an essay about how garrus how is unsconsciously manipulative in sexual way with the manner he walks during his conversation... Heck You can start to be really creative and says that any movement that happens in any scenes is sex manipulation or anything that you want so it would fit your headcanon. All of this kinda reminded me of the people who said that Kylo ren in the sequel trilogy is complex... and when I read any text about it I realise it was more the people who wrote the scripts for the writers. They invent complexity or add themes all over the place to make the character and the scenes of the story be better. None of this was in the final products it's people who told themselves that these elements were there because the creator of the media in question was a genius instead of maybe looking at the harsher reality of the okham razor. Inventing values of writing to the cinematography And if you want to show me I am wrong, read the opening statements in it's ENTIRETY and tell me where I am wrong, I am waiting for you.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 7, 2021 19:39:29 GMT
To be honest I have no idea how much time passed between your first answer and your edits where you admit you have only read the first paragraph and said sorry, so take this as a response to a " before your edditing of your first comments". As I have no Idea how much did you read about my oppening statements and I cannot be sure. A couple minutes. I just don't see the point of changing everything. Let it stand unless it's an error that needs correcting.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 7, 2021 19:43:39 GMT
actually, the funny part is precisely that there is no "real issue". Its butt-shots in a video game, it doesn't matter in any way whatsoever either way But 5 people on BanthemEra were offended. They had to change it, don't you see? 5 people! That's like less than 1 in real world metrics. Bioware couldn't stand for it. Which was, in fact, my point. It may not have taken much to change it but why even bother?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 7, 2021 19:44:25 GMT
What? I like the DLC outfit. Ok, that visor looks a bit weird but at least it somewhat resembles functional armor. I never let her go on missions without it (except her loyalty mission because otherwise Enyala's comment about waiting for her to get dressed makes no sense anymore). It's the visor thing that kills it for me. I think her black catsuit is the best. Sleek and sexy.
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Post by Deathfield on Jul 8, 2021 6:59:03 GMT
I'll just say, I don't get the issue with the butt shots debate, they gave us a photo mode, you can now literally take as many butt shots as you like.
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Post by trinity0 on Jul 8, 2021 10:28:11 GMT
In the Citadel DLC there is a comment from Jack about Miranda's breasts and I have to say that Jack is right and Miranda's breasts are more impressive than her butt
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Jul 8, 2021 16:51:10 GMT
Since we are now on the subject of butt shots.... Anyone else keeping an eye on Tales of Arise? Miranda has a new challenger! Kisara has a really big...
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 8, 2021 18:28:01 GMT
In the last months there have been discussions about Miranda Lawson and how important her butt shots were in ME 2 All that and you didn't include a chemical diagram of her genetically enhanced sweat and what it smells/tastes like. You're welcome. (and on topic, I found the cutscene differences in MELE to be verging on minimal and irrelevant. I do like Miranda as a character, she'll often be in my party)
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 8, 2021 18:46:26 GMT
In the last months there have been discussions about Miranda Lawson and how important her butt shots were in ME 2 All that and you didn't include a chemical diagram of her genetically enhanced sweat and what it smells/tastes like. You're welcome. (and on topic, I found the cutscene differences in MELE to be verging on minimal and irrelevant. I do like Miranda as a character, she'll often be in my party) Yeah I use her a fair bit too. I don' t have a problem wit hhersue rshe's a bi tclod at firsttowards you but I think that's mainly because she's not sure she can trust you given that she's Cerberus and up until now you've been Alliance. I do use her quite a bit though as her skills with both Warp and Overload are quite handy. But after a while after you get t oknow her I find her quite likeable
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 8, 2021 18:48:08 GMT
I find her quite likeable And I change her into the (loyal) black outfit as soon as possible.
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Post by ahglock on Jul 9, 2021 3:00:32 GMT
I'll just say, I don't get the issue with the butt shots debate, they gave us a photo mode, you can now literally take as many butt shots as you like. 1. Despite the pathetic attempts by many to insinuate otherwise, this isn't a porn thing for anyone. No one would have given a crap if it had always been this way. When you make changes like this and then advertise it it is irritating virtue signalling.2. its the crap we've heard for a decade now about things they can't change due to artistic integrity. Apparently holding to your artistic integrity to stop you from a good ending or give people gay romances back into ME1 is still cool, but they are willing to dial back on artistic integrity here. Virtually no one complained about this, and this they put time into. Yeah the mechanics of doing it probably didn't take much time but they had to go through decision processes to change it how to change it etc.
Give me the hackett ending, give DMC1001 Kaiden in ME1. Don't change something pointless and then brag about it.
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Post by talyn82 on Jul 9, 2021 5:46:03 GMT
You're welcome. (and on topic, I found the cutscene differences in MELE to be verging on minimal and irrelevant. I do like Miranda as a character, she'll often be in my party) Yeah I use her a fair bit too. I don' t have a problem wit hhersue rshe's a bi tclod at firsttowards you but I think that's mainly because she's not sure she can trust you given that she's Cerberus and up until now you've been Alliance. I do use her quite a bit though as her skills with both Warp and Overload are quite handy. But after a while after you get t oknow her I find her quite likeable First I want to say I didn't even know there were shots of Miranda's rear removed. Not that I care but I hate any kind of censorship. To me it doesn't matter the game was still good and there was tons of story. Now to the quote above. I too used Miranda a lot. Like you said she was very handy, and from an rp perspective since she was Shepard's second in command it was natural to have her around. I wish she was a companion in ME3. Her and Kasumi I wanted back.
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