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Post by dwh221 on Jul 12, 2021 23:48:20 GMT
So we know Liara has aged quite a bit via the teaser trailer. To me, that suggests that we're possibly hundreds of years past ME3.
What do y'all think about the PC being a Shadowbroker Agent? It would explain why our PC is traveling with Liara and I think it helps explain what we might be doing in Andromeda (again based on both the Milky Way and Andromeda being present in the teaser). Are we possibly gathering information on behalf of Liara while the Milky Way Races reunite with their Andromeda counterparts?
Just an idea I've had floating around. Would love to hear your thoughts!
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 13, 2021 6:17:31 GMT
Does not actually sound too bad Interesting.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 13, 2021 15:02:52 GMT
Just an idea for a plot outline I had last night and it's probably the best outline I can think of to make MEA2, ME5 or whatever you want to call it actually work with what was shown in that damn teaser and all things considered not the worst idea I've had at 2:30 AM.
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Post by hoku on Jul 13, 2021 16:29:49 GMT
You kinda had me with an interesting world and ahem galaxy rebuilding state (1st paragraph ), until the Liara "center stage", wife and bring Shepard back/savior again thing...
Wouldn't mind the idea the overall idea of dwh221.
Would prefer no Shepard 3.0 and no MET characters in major roles or only in flashbacks.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 13, 2021 16:32:01 GMT
Yeah no Shep thanks but... daymn if my body isnt ready for a next game in ME universe.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 13, 2021 17:16:44 GMT
The only problem is that Shepard died at the end of the war, Nope. Mine is alive and well. She is currently reading the book chess for dummies so she can try to beat Samantha. Nope. She's just some character who happened to be on the SR2 during events. Not true. My Shepard never had any interest in the asari. Nope. She knows nothing about bringing Shepard back. That was all Cerberus. How did any of Shepard's remains end up being all over the galaxy? Did someone take the body, and personal effects, to scatter them all over the galaxy?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jul 13, 2021 23:24:44 GMT
You kinda had me with an interesting world and ahem galaxy rebuilding state (1st paragraph ), until the Liara "center stage", wife and bring Shepard back/savior again thing...
Wouldn't mind the idea the overall idea of dwh221 .
Would prefer no Shepard 3.0 and no MET characters in major roles or only in flashbacks.
Honestly I want just MEA2 with Pathfinder Sara Ryder and company for another adventure and I would rather save this kind of story for a future story. If I have to play as Shepard again it's the only creative way for me that doesn't make sick to my stomach and it's not canonizing any of one the ME3 endings and uses what is shown in that "Mass Effect will continue" teaser. Since almost everyone thinks is Liara is the asari climbing on the remains of the Reaper and is much older (and I think BioWare has pretty much confirmed it was Liara) as too the rumor of her being Shepard's wife is because while she is the love of my Shepard's life and she is also my personal favorite LI of the trilogy I know there are fans that don't like her. So the rumor thing it's left for the player to choose.
At least this is my idea.
Also it gives Ryder and company something to do and not reduce them drooling to a fanboy and/or fangirl while Shepard is trying to learn what happened after the events of ME3 and build a new team, for a mission that at the very least could be interesting with some really big stakes.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2021 0:01:48 GMT
To me, that suggests that we're possibly hundreds of years past ME3 Instant pass from me.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 14, 2021 1:33:24 GMT
To me, that suggests that we're possibly hundreds of years past ME3 Instant pass from me. I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 14, 2021 1:37:42 GMT
I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness. Still a pass.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 14, 2021 1:50:04 GMT
I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness. I would not be surprised if the relays that were not activated are ok. It would just be the ones that are used throughout the trilogy. I'm sure Bioware can come up with an explanation having some or more of the relays repaired in a short time. If high ems is used, the only damage is the rings. I know it shows that one relay in bad shape as the ships fly by, but I believe that to be an oversight on Bioware's part.
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Post by Blast Processor on Jul 14, 2021 2:24:57 GMT
I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness. I was thinking about this the other day. The late Bronze Age Collapse came to mind. Like you said, the next couple hundred years at the very least are going to be pretty rough in the Milky Way post ME3.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 14, 2021 2:45:02 GMT
I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness. I would not be surprised if the relays that were not activated are ok. It would just be the ones that are used throughout the trilogy. I'm sure Bioware can come up with an explanation having some or more of the relays repaired in a short time. If high ems is used, the only damage is the rings. I know it shows that one relay in bad shape as the ships fly by, but I believe that to be an oversight on Bioware's part. Aethyta talks about how the asari should start building their own Mass Relays, so I could see in Destroy them plus the research on the Conduit could give our cycle enough understanding to repair or recreate them. In Control and Synthesis obviously the Reapers will be the ones to do it.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 14, 2021 3:39:48 GMT
I would not be surprised if the relays that were not activated are ok. It would just be the ones that are used throughout the trilogy. I'm sure Bioware can come up with an explanation having some or more of the relays repaired in a short time. If high ems is used, the only damage is the rings. I know it shows that one relay in bad shape as the ships fly by, but I believe that to be an oversight on Bioware's part. Aethyta talks about how the asari should start building their own Mass Relays, so I could see in Destroy them plus the research on the Conduit could give our cycle enough understanding to repair or recreate them. In Control and Synthesis obviously the Reapers will be the ones to do it. I have mentioned something like that however long ago. Lets say shortly after finding the Citadel, the asari decide to study the relay's. A group chooses a system that isn't travelled by anyone else to do their experiments. It's slow going for them. When the salariias show up, the asari aske them if they could help because how intelligent they are. Both groups make progress over time. They are able to build two relays, not the size of the reaper relay's. They place the relays far enough away from each other to do testing. After countless tries, they finally are able to send an object from one relay to another. By the time the reapers showed up, they were able to test unmanned fighters. Until they get it working perfectly, they will hold off trying with organics. After the reapers are destroyed, the asari and salarians offer help to repair the relays since they have an understanding how they work. Knowing that cut's the time down a fair bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 10:14:12 GMT
If this was done well...
We'd all buy it, even my friend petrakus.
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That's a huge IF. I mean, large.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 14, 2021 17:01:32 GMT
I would prefer not to have Liara at all but it looks like I won't have a choice. Either way, I'm not going to pre-buy. I'll wait for the reviews here. Not going to look at YT because they don't even know how to do anything but trash talk.
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Post by Phantom on Jul 14, 2021 17:57:46 GMT
I would prefer not to have Liara at all but it looks like I won't have a choice. Either way, I'm not going to pre-buy. I'll wait for the reviews here. Not going to look at YT because they don't even know how to do anything but trash talk. Well I don't blame you and I rather have not Liara as at all as well. Shadowbroker Agent might go over better than a Cerberus Phantom Commander.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 14, 2021 18:02:54 GMT
I would prefer not to have Liara at all but it looks like I won't have a choice. Either way, I'm not going to pre-buy. I'll wait for the reviews here. Not going to look at YT because they don't even know how to do anything but trash talk. Well I don't blame you and I rather have not Liara as at all as well. Shadowbroker Agent might go over better than a Cerberus Phantom Commander. Either could sort of work but Liara shouldn't be the Shadow Broker anymore. Hmm...maybe she was ousted by TIM-replacement and in the beginning we see the Cerberus Phantom take her out. Could be the main antagonist against the Shadow Broker agent, who is tracking down Liara's killer. That would put the final nail in the coffin of "The Cult of Shepard". I can sell myself on some version of that. I do love Shepard but his/her time has passed and, if we're really dealing with hundreds of years in the future, the rest of the squadmates are long dead, probably even Wrex and Samara (though Grunt might still be around).
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Post by Phantom on Jul 14, 2021 18:18:41 GMT
Well I don't blame you and I rather have not Liara as at all as well. Shadowbroker Agent might go over better than a Cerberus Phantom Commander. Either could sort of work but Liara shouldn't be the Shadow Broker anymore. Hmm...maybe she was ousted by TIM-replacement and in the beginning we see the Cerberus Phantom take her out. Could be the main antagonist against the Shadow Broker agent, who is tracking down Liara's killer. That would put the final nail in the coffin of "The Cult of Shepard". I can sell myself on some version of that. I do love Shepard but his/her time has passed and, if we're really dealing with hundreds of years in the future, the rest of the squadmates are long dead, probably even Wrex and Samara (though Grunt might still be around). Well your idea can work easily, DMC1001 due to it makes sense and has a good foundation to work with as well. Well One of my Cerberus Phantom Commander ideas is having him burying Shepard, T.I.M and Anderson's bodies by launching their respective bodies into the Sun. Also He does kill Liara because she becomes a Cult Leader and runs the Cult of Shepard. And Cult of Shepard is secretly a Reaper Cult. Angry Marine might like the idea of a God Emperor inspired Big Bad that is in league with the Reapers secretly. And Having Cerberus Phantom Commander and others taking him down in a New Galactic Civil War. Yes One of the reasons I like it, is Cerberus(known for having members being hardcore racists) leading Assault with armies of Krogan, Geth, Batarians, Asari, Salarians and others species. Yes it is so bad off under the New Big bad that they let an organization like Cerberus take the lead to take HIM down.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 17, 2021 9:36:56 GMT
I would prefer not to have Liara at all but it looks like I won't have a choice. Either way, I'm not going to pre-buy. I'll wait for the reviews here. Not going to look at YT because they don't even know how to do anything but trash talk. I'll buy it when it comes, not pre-order. Then I'll play it and make my own conclusion, like I've done since MikroBitti stopped to be any relevant for games... and thats in the start of 90's. Only reviewer I trust is me.
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Post by wright1978 on Jul 18, 2021 21:45:57 GMT
I guess this is a bit of a bind, because logically, even decades after ME3, the galaxy would still be disconnected and pretty chaotic. Assuming the reapers are destroyed, the relay network would likely never be restored within even a krogan lifetime, and “realistically”, I’d even lean on it *never* being full restored at all, because there’s too many secondary relays out there just out in the darkness. I was thinking about this the other day. The late Bronze Age Collapse came to mind. Like you said, the next couple hundred years at the very least are going to be pretty rough in the Milky Way post ME3h Yeah i’ve always envisioned the short-term being very tough, disease, death, disorder. Jumping well forward makes sense for that as well as getting distance from shep. As for the op suggestion. Well I want as little andromeda reference as possible. Definitely don’t want to be sent there. Starting as a shadow broker agent does seem a reasonable, given liara being that is canon regardless.
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Post by elegantpony on Aug 21, 2021 4:19:01 GMT
OP's idea sounds super cool.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 21, 2021 16:39:17 GMT
How did any of Shepard's remains end up being all over the galaxy? Did someone take the body, and personal effects, to scatter them all over the galaxy? Collecting *ahem* Shepard's left over genetic material. Shepard ... got around a lot. A lover in every port kind of thing.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 22, 2021 1:12:35 GMT
So we know Liara has aged quite a bit via the teaser trailer. To me, that suggests that we're possibly hundreds of years past ME3. Which is impossible because she died on the beam run. What do y'all think about the PC being a Shadowbroker Agent? I would not at all be opposed to this.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 22, 2021 5:46:20 GMT
So we know Liara has aged quite a bit via the teaser trailer. To me, that suggests that we're possibly hundreds of years past ME3. Which is impossible because she died on the beam run. What do y'all think about the PC being a Shadowbroker Agent? I would not at all be opposed to this. well what if the Reapers saves her and make her their agent to assist with the Harvest? there are many ways for her to return. some as the villain and some as the hero. some as both.
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