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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 25, 2021 17:45:17 GMT
Here's a fucking question, why SHOULDN'T games explore highly specific fetishes? Why aren't those groups worthy of representation? Do you know what fetishes exist out there? Furry, poo, pee, vore, gore etc. Do we really want to open that can of worms? I can totally see this happening to DA, at this point, but it's not gonna bring me in. And why should the only media that exists be stuff that you like?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 25, 2021 18:01:53 GMT
Gender identities, sexual orientations, various nationalities, various races, sure but fetishes I draw the line at. In no work of fiction that I have explored have they added anything of worth to the experience. If they do it's either used for comedy or horror,a certain sidequest in Assassins Of Kings comes to mind for comedy, a lot comes to mind for horror as subverting them can make one deeply uncomfortable as in RUINER and OBSERVER as examples. If it's on display (in a positive light) simply to be present like in a Quentin Tarantino film I find it ditracts from the overall experience. What do gender identity, sexual orientation, nationality and race add to an experience, besides enjoyment for the individuals that want those things? Why do they need to "add" anything? Fetishes are part of the human experience. Art and media catalogue, explore, critique and share elements of the human experience, therefore they catalogue, explore, critique and share fetishes. There are entire works of literature and film and yes, even some indie video games, that exist solely to explore specific fetishes. In fact, BioWare already caters to xenophilia simply by having non-human romance options in basically all of its games, dating back to Baldur's Gate. Wanting to date and have sex with non-humans is a fetish. The Iron Bull romance also has light elements of BDSM, so that's two fetishes. Really, it's impossible to not cater to fetish, because you can't control what makes people horny. Some people get off on utterly mundane shit like popping balloons, or falling into water. A fetish is literally just anything that arouses people despite not being inherently sexual. Breasts are a fetish, people just don't think of straight men who like breasts as having a "fetish" because it is overwhelmingly common (and because straight men control society, so they get to dictate what is "normal" and what is "deviant"). In fact, the only thing that makes something a deviant "fetish", as opposed to a part of regular healthy human sexuality, is societal perception. If we start drawing lines about which aspects of human sexuality can or can't be depicted in media and when it's okay and blah blah blah, we just play right into the hands of the people whose fetish is suppressing diversity of thought and sexuality and forcing everyone back into the 50s.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 25, 2021 20:28:26 GMT
Duskwanderer Polyamory is not ethical sluttery. There is overlap, but that is not what OP was asking for. So stop calling Polyamory a fetish when it is literally a relationship structure I don't think you know what a fetish is. Semantic word games don't work on me. I don't have a problem with ethical sluttery, or any kind of relationship. But a fantasy game character where the only purpose is "I want to slut around" isn't a good character. It's why Dorian's story was so lame: There was nothing to him other than an after-school special that might have well been written by a middle schooler. I'm merely suggesting that people try to consider a plot and story structure rather than their obsession with showing the checkbox they want to show.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 25, 2021 20:32:44 GMT
I think you should re-read the initial post. It was: "Jade Empire gave poly, and I want more poly representation because muh representation." And aside from your pathetic, transparent attempt to re-write the original content of the OP in order to make the author look stupid and unreasonable, what's actually wrong with that request? People are allowed to just want things for their own sake, they don't have to justify anything, least of all to you. Demanding nothing but a fetish because they want to see it, regardless of necessity, feasibility, practicality, or anything like that, is stupid and unreasonable. I'd also throw in selfish. It reminds me of Andromeda, with all the technical glitches rendering it almost unplayable. And instead, they wanted the programmer to spend their time fixing Hainly Abrams reminding us that he was a dude that looked like a chick. Make whatever justifications for your fetishes as you wish. Just a friendly reminder that porn is free.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 25, 2021 20:36:24 GMT
Duskwanderer Polyamory is not ethical sluttery. There is overlap, but that is not what OP was asking for. So stop calling Polyamory a fetish when it is literally a relationship structure Maybe he's confusing it with cuckolding fetishes? No, I know what it is. Why does that seem to bother you?
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Post by bierkrug on Aug 25, 2021 20:55:21 GMT
Wanting to date and have sex with non-humans is a fetish. All of those non-humans are very human looking and sentient. But let's say an elf shagging a halla. That's too far, man.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 25, 2021 21:16:27 GMT
And why should the only media that exists be stuff that you like? You don't even know my fetish.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 25, 2021 21:20:24 GMT
Maybe he's confusing it with cuckolding fetishes? No, I know what it is. Why does that seem to bother you? Keep up, keep up, I'm the one with the hang-ups in regards to people very into poly, not one of the people asking for it.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 25, 2021 21:34:04 GMT
And why should the only media that exists be stuff that you like? Biiiiiiiiiiiiiitch, you don't even know my fetish. You haven't gotten mine if you haven't broken the laws of physics, LOL.
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Post by phoray on Aug 25, 2021 22:18:26 GMT
Demanding nothing but a fetish because they want to see it, it is NOT a fetish, it is a relationship structure. Now that you've continued to obsessively ignore such a correction, I can only assume you are intending to be offensive. I'm merely suggesting that people try to consider a plot and story structure rather than their obsession with showing the checkbox they want to show. It really isn't that much more difficult to write as compared to what they've already written, so long as it's a V shape relationship where the protaganist dates only one of the two person couple. We're not even asking for a big scene about it, it can simply BE there, existing, and recieve about as much attention regarding character interaction as that conversation with Iron Bull about Krem. Iron Bull has friends, and his little troupe got their big introduction. Now *imagine* if he also said, "I've also been in a dom/sub relationship with Krem, we got real close after I saved his life." And then add the little detail, if you wish, of what a Josie romancer got with Leliana checking in and saying, take care of Josie. now we've picked all our characters for this example. Inky starts something with Iron Bull, there is like 3 more questions regarding everything being ethical and consensual regarding Krem. Later, Krem drops by to confirm that it's ethical and consensual that IB is also seeing you, but you better treat IB nice or Krem is gonna smack you. End Cuddle scene starts with all three of you (Inky, IB in the middle, and Krem at the other end) chilling on the couch, but then Inky pulls IB away to go look at the sunset on the balcony. You now have a poly relationship with just as much effort as was spent in DAI.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 25, 2021 23:59:56 GMT
Demanding nothing but a fetish because they want to see it, it is NOT a fetish, it is a relationship structure. Now that you've continued to obsessively ignore such a correction, I can only assume you are intending to be offensive. I'm merely suggesting that people try to consider a plot and story structure rather than their obsession with showing the checkbox they want to show. It really isn't that much more difficult to write as compared to what they've already written, so long as it's a V shape relationship where the protaganist dates only one of the two person couple. We're not even asking for a big scene about it, it can simply BE there, existing, and recieve about as much attention regarding character interaction as that conversation with Iron Bull about Krem. Iron Bull has friends, and his little troupe got their big introduction. Now *imagine* if he also said, "I've also been in a dom/sub relationship with Krem, we got real close after I saved his life." And then add the little detail, if you wish, of what a Josie romancer got with Leliana checking in and saying, take care of Josie. now we've picked all our characters for this example. Inky starts something with Iron Bull, there is like 3 more questions regarding everything being ethical and consensual regarding Krem. Later, Krem drops by to confirm that it's ethical and consensual that IB is also seeing you, but you better treat IB nice or Krem is gonna smack you. End Cuddle scene starts with all three of you (Inky, IB in the middle, and Krem at the other end) chilling on the couch, but then Inky pulls IB away to go look at the sunset on the balcony. You now have a poly relationship with just as much effort as was spent in DAI. As I have said, semantic games do not work on me. Romantic relationships have never been a part of the overall plot due to their complete optional nature. Further, the quality of relationships has gone down. Dorian's relationship was nothing more than seeing his ass, IB's was just fetish wear and that scene where everyone comes in to see Qunari penis. Blackwall's felt low effort, Sera's was nothing but vulgar, Josie's was cheesy, Solas's was esoteric and never felt like it had a payoff until Trespasser. Cassandra's was romantic and Cullen had a decent character arc that wouldn't have gotten explored otherwise, but that's about it. What you've described is a lot of effort that would be better spent into keeping the character engaged in a plot, and sounds so utterly unappealing that I would never consider doing it. And no, putting it in because "muh representation" is an awful reason.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 26, 2021 0:14:24 GMT
Gender identities, sexual orientations, various nationalities, various races, sure but fetishes I draw the line at. In no work of fiction that I have explored have they added anything of worth to the experience. If they do it's either used for comedy or horror,a certain sidequest in Assassins Of Kings comes to mind for comedy, a lot comes to mind for horror as subverting them can make one deeply uncomfortable as in RUINER and OBSERVER as examples. If it's on display (in a positive light) simply to be present like in a Quentin Tarantino film I find it ditracts from the overall experience. What do gender identity, sexual orientation, nationality and race add to an experience, besides enjoyment for the individuals that want those things? Why do they need to "add" anything? Fetishes are part of the human experience. Art and media catalogue, explore, critique and share elements of the human experience, therefore they catalogue, explore, critique and share fetishes. There are entire works of literature and film and yes, even some indie video games, that exist solely to explore specific fetishes. In fact, BioWare already caters to xenophilia simply by having non-human romance options in basically all of its games, dating back to Baldur's Gate. Wanting to date and have sex with non-humans is a fetish. The Iron Bull romance also has light elements of BDSM, so that's two fetishes. Really, it's impossible to not cater to fetish, because you can't control what makes people horny. Some people get off on utterly mundane shit like popping balloons, or falling into water. A fetish is literally just anything that arouses people despite not being inherently sexual. Breasts are a fetish, people just don't think of straight men who like breasts as having a "fetish" because it is overwhelmingly common (and because straight men control society, so they get to dictate what is "normal" and what is "deviant"). In fact, the only thing that makes something a deviant "fetish", as opposed to a part of regular healthy human sexuality, is societal perception. If we start drawing lines about which aspects of human sexuality can or can't be depicted in media and when it's okay and blah blah blah, we just play right into the hands of the people whose fetish is suppressing diversity of thought and sexuality and forcing everyone back into the 50s. I think they need to add something substantive otherwise development resources I prefer go elsewhere honestly. I simply feel the things I listed can add in ways that improve the experience. I just do not feel the same way about fetishes. And frankly I find bringing this up in the same breath as polyamorus relationships outright disrespectful. As if to in any way equate the two's representation in value.
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Post by phoray on Aug 26, 2021 0:25:10 GMT
I don't usually interact with such close minded people, so my patience for it is pretty darn low. That's about as nice as I can put it, considering you're calling what I have performed the last ten years with as much care and love and heartache as I can muster, a fetish. anyway, The romance budget is separate from all the other budgets. They can do whatever they want with it, and that can include polyamory easily enough if that's what they want to explore. As a poly person, my first post in this thread literally said that I'd only want it to be focused on to the point of including it as an actual Romance with all it's strings is if it added something to the overall story. Just being there, like Krem (what, two lines?), or the TG in MEA (again, two lines?), or represented in CODEX is good enough to me. They could also have a polyamorous couple where neither of them are interested in the protagonist and we just get to hear about their involvement in some other NPC we also can't date. We don't have to be able to kiss them directly for them to represent. Where I care about more is that default exclusive monogamy be removed from the game until an active locking point you can actually choose on. No more locking yourself into a relationship you never agreed to because you flirted too much.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 26, 2021 0:58:36 GMT
Wanting to date and have sex with non-humans is a fetish. All of those non-humans are very human looking and sentient. But let's say an elf shagging a halla. That's too far, man. I should not need to specify that the sex and relationships depicted between the protagonist and any party members or other characters should be consensual.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 26, 2021 1:10:22 GMT
I don't usually interact with such close minded people, so my patience for it is pretty darn low. That's about as nice as I can put it, considering you're calling what I have performed the last ten years with as much care and love and heartache as I can muster, a fetish. anyway, The romance budget is separate from all the other budgets. They can do whatever they want with it, and that can include polyamory easily enough if that's what they want to explore. As a poly person, my first post in this thread literally said that I'd only want it to be focused on to the point of including it as an actual Romance with all it's strings is if it added something to the overall story. Just being there, like Krem (what, two lines?), or the TG in MEA (again, two lines?), or represented in CODEX is good enough to me. They could also have a polyamorous couple where neither of them are interested in the protagonist and we just get to hear about their involvement in some other NPC we also can't date. We don't have to be able to kiss them directly for them to represent. Where I care about more is that default exclusive monogamy be removed from the game until an active locking point you can actually choose on. No more locking yourself into a relationship you never agreed to because you flirted too much. You see, you could've led with something like: "What I don't want to see is automatically getting committed to a relationship", the ME1 Liara path. I get that. That's completely fine: You shouldn't be forced into a relationship. Again, Liara was terrible with this. But you didn't. You led with "I want muh representation." And even the rest of your comment is a really odd thing. "default monogamy removed from the game until an active locking point" is such a weird way to frame things. Although flirting is certainly a way to insinuate romance. Kind of odd that you don't think so. You want to know a secret? My style of relationship hasn't been represented in a BioWARE game. Take a look at every single one, you'll never see it. And you know what? I ignore it. I don't need some fake relationship in a game to validate my life experiences. And I don't need to see someone else doing something to show the world I exist. I advise you to do the same. And then, put away your mirror.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 26, 2021 1:30:12 GMT
What do gender identity, sexual orientation, nationality and race add to an experience, besides enjoyment for the individuals that want those things? Why do they need to "add" anything? Fetishes are part of the human experience. Art and media catalogue, explore, critique and share elements of the human experience, therefore they catalogue, explore, critique and share fetishes. There are entire works of literature and film and yes, even some indie video games, that exist solely to explore specific fetishes. In fact, BioWare already caters to xenophilia simply by having non-human romance options in basically all of its games, dating back to Baldur's Gate. Wanting to date and have sex with non-humans is a fetish. The Iron Bull romance also has light elements of BDSM, so that's two fetishes. Really, it's impossible to not cater to fetish, because you can't control what makes people horny. Some people get off on utterly mundane shit like popping balloons, or falling into water. A fetish is literally just anything that arouses people despite not being inherently sexual. Breasts are a fetish, people just don't think of straight men who like breasts as having a "fetish" because it is overwhelmingly common (and because straight men control society, so they get to dictate what is "normal" and what is "deviant"). In fact, the only thing that makes something a deviant "fetish", as opposed to a part of regular healthy human sexuality, is societal perception. If we start drawing lines about which aspects of human sexuality can or can't be depicted in media and when it's okay and blah blah blah, we just play right into the hands of the people whose fetish is suppressing diversity of thought and sexuality and forcing everyone back into the 50s. I think they need to add something substantive otherwise development resources I prefer go elsewhere honestly. I simply feel the things I listed can add in ways that improve the experience. I just do not feel the same way about fetishes. And frankly I find bringing this up in the same breath as polyamorus relationships outright disrespectful. As if to in any way equate the two's representation in value. And who decides that the addition is substantive? Who is the experience being improved for? If people enjoy the content, does that not justify its existence? And, again, what part of the game do you imagine is suffering or losing resources as a result of increased representation of different sexualities? Why would characters with "fetishes" be more expensive to develop than those without fetishes? Because that's what you're saying. There can only be so many characters in the game regardless, so if increased diversity takes away from other parts of the game and homogeneity does not, then diverse characters must be more expensive to produce for some reason. So how does that happen? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have simply misunderstood my point and aren't making an argument in bad faith, but I didn't bring up fetishes "in the same breath as polyamory". I actually didn't say anything about polyamory in that post at all. Anything you think I said about polyamory in there comes from your own mind. All I said was that fetishes are natural and healthy, and that everyone has them, and they have a place in art. Which is just a true thing to say. And if you've interpreted "outright disrespect" in my argument, then I might posit that is because you, like most other people posting in here, regard "fetish" as a pejorative term for any sexual behaviour considered "deviant" by society. Which is not how I'm using the term, and not how anyone should be using the term. Polyamory is a valid relationship dynamic, and fetishes are a natural and healthy part of sex and sexuality whether one is polyamorous or not. Aside from that, the two have nothing to do with each other.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 26, 2021 1:36:56 GMT
And why should the only media that exists be stuff that you like? You don't even know my fetish. I know your fetish, Its in your avatar
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 26, 2021 1:43:33 GMT
You led with "I want muh representation." So fucking what if she did? "I want muh 4k" "I want muh sixty fps" "I want muh tactical cam" "I want muh good hair" "I want muh better hats" "I want muh Patrick Weekes to get fired" That's all ANYBODY posts here EVER. This is a VIDEO GAME forum. Video games are a frivolity. They are literally TOYS. People do not have to justify their wants to you, there is no justification to be had, because nobody needs video games at all. Your wants are not more valid than anyone else's, and you don't elevate your own position by sneering down at other people.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 26, 2021 1:44:06 GMT
You don't even know my fetish. I know your fetish, Its in your avatar Now I'm curious what you see in that picture, that could be my fetish.
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Post by phoray on Aug 26, 2021 2:00:25 GMT
Dusk, the thread is not even 3 pages long. I did lead with exactly that in page 1. You possibly started arguing with people on page 2. I don't have to repeat what I said on page 1 on page 3, because I expect that you have an attention span if you bothered to come to this style of forum.
For someone arguing about semantics, you're literally not even using the word fetish correctly, because a fetish can only be something that doesn't involve humans, like a balloon.
Either engage in the actual conversation of how Bioware COULD make a Polyamorous relationship in a DA game or kindly fuck off. We hear that you don't approve, and you have literally nothing else to add to the conversation other than "don't even ask for such a disgusting thing "
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 26, 2021 2:14:42 GMT
Several warnings have been handed out and a post edited to remove a low level insult. SofaJockey called for less aggression and baiting in this thread only a few hours ago. Discuss the possibility of polyamorous relationships and how they might implemented if you wish, but do so without name calling and aggression towards those with different views. Also do it without mischaracterising a relationship as a fetish.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 26, 2021 5:07:23 GMT
I know your fetish, Its in your avatar Now I'm curious what you see in that picture, that could be my fetish. Well.... hehe you are a guy are you not? and your avatar features two lady's hehe need I say more
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 26, 2021 5:10:39 GMT
I think they need to add something substantive otherwise development resources I prefer go elsewhere honestly. I simply feel the things I listed can add in ways that improve the experience. I just do not feel the same way about fetishes. And frankly I find bringing this up in the same breath as polyamorus relationships outright disrespectful. As if to in any way equate the two's representation in value. And who decides that the addition is substantive? Who is the experience being improved for? If people enjoy the content, does that not justify its existence? And, again, what part of the game do you imagine is suffering or losing resources as a result of increased representation of different sexualities? Why would characters with "fetishes" be more expensive to develop than those without fetishes? Because that's what you're saying. There can only be so many characters in the game regardless, so if increased diversity takes away from other parts of the game and homogeneity does not, then diverse characters must be more expensive to produce for some reason. So how does that happen? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have simply misunderstood my point and aren't making an argument in bad faith, but I didn't bring up fetishes "in the same breath as polyamory". I actually didn't say anything about polyamory in that post at all. Anything you think I said about polyamory in there comes from your own mind. All I said was that fetishes are natural and healthy, and that everyone has them, and they have a place in art. Which is just a true thing to say. And if you've interpreted "outright disrespect" in my argument, then I might posit that is because you, like most other people posting in here, regard "fetish" as a pejorative term for any sexual behaviour considered "deviant" by society. Which is not how I'm using the term, and not how anyone should be using the term. Polyamory is a valid relationship dynamic, and fetishes are a natural and healthy part of sex and sexuality whether one is polyamorous or not. Aside from that, the two have nothing to do with each other. I already stated it is my opinion that it's insubstantive. In the majority of cases anyway. I'm not saying they will be more expensive to produce in the money sense but certainly more time consuming to get right. As I have said I have never witnessed it add value yet for myself. I find you bringing up fetishes in a thread about the inclusion of polyamory offensive in of itself. Now if you're finished reading my mind for someone I ought to have so much in common with I think I'm finished speaking to you for the foreseeable future as...
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 26, 2021 5:59:27 GMT
Mucho texto... but this is getting to places.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 26, 2021 8:28:35 GMT
And who decides that the addition is substantive? Who is the experience being improved for? If people enjoy the content, does that not justify its existence? And, again, what part of the game do you imagine is suffering or losing resources as a result of increased representation of different sexualities? Why would characters with "fetishes" be more expensive to develop than those without fetishes? Because that's what you're saying. There can only be so many characters in the game regardless, so if increased diversity takes away from other parts of the game and homogeneity does not, then diverse characters must be more expensive to produce for some reason. So how does that happen? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have simply misunderstood my point and aren't making an argument in bad faith, but I didn't bring up fetishes "in the same breath as polyamory". I actually didn't say anything about polyamory in that post at all. Anything you think I said about polyamory in there comes from your own mind. All I said was that fetishes are natural and healthy, and that everyone has them, and they have a place in art. Which is just a true thing to say. And if you've interpreted "outright disrespect" in my argument, then I might posit that is because you, like most other people posting in here, regard "fetish" as a pejorative term for any sexual behaviour considered "deviant" by society. Which is not how I'm using the term, and not how anyone should be using the term. Polyamory is a valid relationship dynamic, and fetishes are a natural and healthy part of sex and sexuality whether one is polyamorous or not. Aside from that, the two have nothing to do with each other. I already stated it is my opinion that it's insubstantive. In the majority of cases anyway. I'm not saying they will be more expensive to produce in the money sense but certainly more time consuming to get right. As I have said I have never witnessed it add value yet for myself. I find you bringing up fetishes in a thread about the inclusion of polyamory offensive in of itself. Now if you're finished reading my mind for someone I ought to have so much in common with I think I'm finished speaking to you for the foreseeable future as... Rest assured, the feeling is mutual. And I didn't bring up fetishes, or compare them to polyamory, Bierkrug did, with a bunch of "what's next, furries in adult diapers?" bad faith fearmongering. So direct your ire where it's warranted.
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