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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 29, 2021 15:04:28 GMT
For someone who's never actually played Inquisition beyond the prologue since it came out, what's the most interesting class and race to play in the story?
I tend to either play a Dalish Elf Warrior or City Elf Rogue Female in Dragon Age Origins. (Being an Arcane Warrior's also exceptionally good fun.)
I tend to like playing a Mage Garrett Hawke as that comes across as most organic to Bioware's handling of them in DAII and DAIII apparently.
It does not sound that appealing to play more than once from what I have heard, and I don't like repeating races in my world state, so with that in mind I'm interested in potential recommendations.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 29, 2021 16:44:09 GMT
Depends really on what kind of story you wish to play From a general perspective, playing a human is the most common to play as, mostly because the story was initially designed to play only as a human (like DA2) However, given the recent revelations, playing an elf is also very interesting since you get to know a lot about their background (Inquisition only has a dalish background) However, imo. Qunari have the most fun in terms of war-table missions, they get some really fun dialogue as well. It also depends on who you wish to romance, since a few of them are race-gated (them being Solas and Cullen, Solas is race-gated for female elves only, and Cullen for female elves and humans only) I've so far finished a game with both an elven mage and a qunari mage, both were a lot of fun to play, especially the latter. Playing a character that towers over everyone with gigantic ram horns is a lot of fun. Screenshot of my Qunari mage (un-modded, though in my game I did use a hair mod) Seeing as you already have an elf in your world state for origins, and DA2 is obligated human, I'd recommend playing either a dwarf or qunari. Both have a rather interesting background, Qunari are Vashoth (being a qunari who was never part of the Qun religion) and the Dwarf is former Carta...and as an added bonus (slight spoiler) related to Shale from Origins.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 29, 2021 21:19:40 GMT
I went female Qunari in my first play through, purely because we'd never seen one before (all Qunari in previous games had been male), and quite enjoyed it. Second was male dwarf, so I'll simply echo LoN's sentiments above.
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Post by phoray on Aug 29, 2021 22:02:06 GMT
I've finished with F Human Mage, F Elven Mage, M Elven Mage, F. Human Rogue. Have partially played Two Hander Warrior Human Male. I enjoyed my first run as a F. Human mage, and really extra enjoyed my F. Human Rogue.
I think if you are heavy into RP you should probably play a Dalish elf, either gender, because this is a very Dalish Lore heavy game. Especially one of the DLCs, I was actually disappointed I'd seen that lore as a human Inky instead of as an elf. I don't think you have to be a mage, and I preferred Tempest Rogue followed by two handed warrior as the most entertaining classes. I didn't enjoy any version of mage, I always felt two far away from the action, and defaulted to being a shield caster between some lame attacks.
I think being a dwarf or a Kosith (the actual species name. Qunari is like Christian, and you don't get to follow the Qun) is very under utilized regarding anyone commenting on it. Additioanlly, the cinematography for a dwarf is effed up from literally the first scene. Most people say a dwarf Inky is like playing a short human, and the latter as a very Tall Human.
Re. Romances (assuming you are going with a dalish) If you choose female Dalish, I don't recommend the Solas romance, it literally has the fewest scenes and modifications. You will literally feel like you romanced no one, IMO, although there are a lot of devoted Solas fans who fill in all the gaps with their imagination. As a F. Dalish, I don't recommend Sera either as a romance. As a M. Dalish, Cassandra is not blatantly horrible, but there are a few weird comments here and there.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 29, 2021 22:09:47 GMT
I think being a dwarf or a Kosith (the actual species name. Qunari is like Christian, and you don't get to follow the Qun) Kossith are a different race. A member of the qunari race you have it lowercased, and if they are a part of the Qun it is Qunari with an uppercase.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 29, 2021 22:32:07 GMT
Any significant difference in roleplaying between a Qunari Mage or other classes?
From a gameplay perspective I'm reluctant because I have heard through osmosis you can't hit people with your staff in melee combat and Arcane Warrior's not an option once again.
I have also heard rather bizarrely that if playing Warrior or Rogue you have to pick a style of combat and have no options to deviate after that point for example either longsword and shield or just greatsword...
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 29, 2021 22:50:39 GMT
My current - stalled - PT is a qunari mage and I don't recall any difference from the qunari rogue of my first PT (although we're now nearly 7 years later, of course).
In terms of warrior or rogue, that isn't true. During CC you'll be asked to pick one, but that only informs the weapon your character 'finds' at a certain moment in the prologue. You're able to select talents from either DD or archery if a rogue and TH or W&S if a warrior and switch between weapons of either style as suits you (while outside of combat).
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Post by phoray on Aug 29, 2021 23:06:22 GMT
Any significant difference in roleplaying between a Qunari Mage or other classes? Being a horned being will get like, maybe 5 comments, usually from specific companions. Being a mage will come up often, and you even get extra dialogue options for being one.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 29, 2021 23:12:29 GMT
And in terms of gameplay itself, does Arcane Warrior ever, become an option here?
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Post by Buckeldemon on Aug 29, 2021 23:12:49 GMT
Any significant difference in roleplaying between a Qunari Mage or other classes? From a gameplay perspective I'm reluctant because I have heard through osmosis you can't hit people with your staff in melee combat and Arcane Warrior's not an option once again. I have also heard rather bizarrely that if playing Warrior or Rogue you have to pick a style of combat and have no options to deviate after that point for example either longsword and shield or just greatsword... Yeah, unlike DA2, there are no melee staff attacks. There's a mage specialisation which includes a melee attack, though it is not an equipped weapon, but activated like a spell/talent.
What fighting style you pick during character creation determines what starting weapons and talents you get (usually one that is a generic talent for that class and one that's weapon-specific), but you can re-skill pretty soon. after the prologue, by buying a consumable. These are also available as many times as you can afford, and they are pretty cheap. Much cheaper than in DAO Awakening.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 29, 2021 23:15:41 GMT
And in terms of gameplay itself, does Arcane Warrior ever, become an option here? There is a specialisation called Knight Enchanter which has similarities, but no. Arcane Warrior as you remember from Origins is not available.
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Post by phoray on Aug 29, 2021 23:15:49 GMT
I think being a dwarf or a Kosith (the actual species name. Qunari is like Christian, and you don't get to follow the Qun) Kossith are a different race. A member of the qunari race you have it lowercased, and if they are a part of the Qun it is Qunari with an uppercase.
We're both right, I guess. The Qun religion doesn't give much attention to race? so they never bothered to officially denote their primary species by a particular name. you are just born into the Qun or join the Qun at a later age,. I still prefer calling them kossith until corrected by in game cannon, perhaps in DA4 when we start running into a lot of them. Doesn't Iron Bull straight up reject an Q Inky? by saying something like, "you're not one of us." but they are the same species
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 29, 2021 23:42:09 GMT
FiendishlyInventive , as an add to phoray If you decide on a Qunari character (any class), I'd like to add that this also gives you the lowest score to start with during Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts (a quest later on in the game) Orlesians love putting people down, and being anything but a human gives them a rather low opinion of you...so a Qunari character (same for dwarf and elf) has to work a lot harder to get them to be pleased with you However imo. it also makes it that much better playing a non-human and watching them grovel as they try to come up with ways as to not insult you, knowing that you're there to determine their fates *cue evil laugh*
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 30, 2021 9:20:23 GMT
I have heard that in a later DLC you get Nero'd and taken out of the fight permanently.
But surely that does not really make a lot of sense for a Mage.
But for a Warrior or Rogue it does.
Especially if they're a two hander?
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Post by fylimar on Aug 30, 2021 10:13:21 GMT
I must say, I loved my female dwarf rogue playthrough the most. She is basically the outsider here and had some nice remarks regarding the events. SOmetimes, having the outsider perspective can be nice. My dwarf romanced Sera, whoc was a really perfect match in this case.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 30, 2021 11:06:09 GMT
I have heard that in a later DLC you get Nero'd and taken out of the fight permanently. But surely that does not really make a lot of sense for a Mage. But for a Warrior or Rogue it does. Especially if they're a two hander? lore-wise a mage still makes sense, mages cast spells through their hands...however taking away their hands doesn't stop them from casting spells
I don't know if you remember from DA2, during Act1 there's a quest where you find an apostate in the process of transforming into an abomination the one that captured her says 'get the hands, I hear they can't cast magic without hands' ...after the apostate transforms it says 'you know nothing of magic' which seems to imply a mage wouldn't need their hands to cast spells
However in terms of what you're asking here...a two-handed warrior would have the most challenge coming to terms with missing a hand, since they're used to having two in order to properly hold their weapon.
a weapon+ shield warrior would have less challenge especially if the lost hand is their weapon hand, slap a prosthetic on it and it's like a normal, though they'd still need training to properly use it. a dagger rogue would work similarly, an archer rogue though...err...I dunno if you mind spoilers, but... One of the dlc's ending slides show this, the character in front is the Inquisitor with a brand new crossbow prosthetic, which does seem to imply the Inquisitor is a rogue of sorts (further echoed by the DA Keep which shows the default Inquisitor as a rogue)
However I just recommend playing a class you enjoy and not think to much about the whole getting Nero'd thing
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 30, 2021 12:10:31 GMT
I think from story and lore point of viwe the most obvious one is an elven mage. I would say female elven mage but that might be just my preference talking given I prefer the female VA's over the male ones. Having said that playing a female one can connect well with Solas but any elven mage would work well I think I have heard that in a later DLC you get Nero'd and taken out of the fight permanently. But surely that does not really make a lot of sense for a Mage. But for a Warrior or Rogue it does. Especially if they're a two hander? lore-wise a mage still makes sense, mages cast spells through their hands...however taking away their hands doesn't stop them from casting spells
I don't know if you remember from DA2, during Act1 there's a quest where you find an apostate in the process of transforming into an abomination the one that captured her says 'get the hands, I hear they can't cast magic without hands' ...after the apostate transforms it says 'you know nothing of magic' which seems to imply a mage wouldn't need their hands to cast spells
However in terms of what you're asking here...a two-handed warrior would have the most challenge coming to terms with missing a hand, since they're used to having two in order to properly hold their weapon.
a weapon+ shield warrior would have less challenge especially if the lost hand is their weapon hand, slap a prosthetic on it and it's like a normal, though they'd still need training to properly use it. a dagger rogue would work similarly, an archer rogue though...err...I dunno if you mind spoilers, but... One of the dlc's ending slides show this, the character in front is the Inquisitor with a brand new crossbow prosthetic, which does seem to imply the Inquisitor is a rogue of sorts (further echoed by the DA Keep which shows the default Inquisitor as a rogue)
However I just recommend playing a class you enjoy and not think to much about the whole getting Nero'd thing Yeah that's how I'd go really pick the clas which most interests you and give it a go really as they're al fun in one way or another. M ypersonal favourite wa yto play DAI is mostl yas a ranged character either a mage or an archer as I like to sit back and see the fight develop and mqake choices based off that as to how to proceed. Though for my nex trun I'll be playing my least favourite way which is as a warrior but that's mainl ybecqause it's been a while since I last played one and I don't play them that often. I will admit though I am tempted to do 2 DAI playthrough's bac kt oback but tha tmight depend on how I feel after completin gthe first one. Though the second will most likely be with a randomised world state rather than one I'm creating myself which i swhat I'm doing with my first given I'm playing all 3 games this time Yeah Thrask's daughter if I remember rightly you find her when looking for Feynriel during that quest.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 31, 2021 21:44:08 GMT
I'm thinking big Qunari sword lady, might fit the stoicism and blandness of the Inquisitor's personality, and be an interesting contrast with being an agent of the Chantry.
Thank you for the advice everyone.
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Post by AngryFrozenWater on Sept 18, 2021 14:27:29 GMT
I have played the games several times, including DAI. I think playing as a mage is, from a story perspective, a bit silly. The whole world seems to be after the mages, but nobody cares that you carry a staff and throw fireballs all over the place. Especially in DAI, that is annoying. So, I rather play as a rogue or a warrior.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 18, 2021 15:03:24 GMT
I have played the games several times, including DAI. I think playing as a mage is, from a story perspective, a bit silly. The whole world seems to be after the mages, but nobody cares that you carry a staff and throw fireballs all over the place. Especially in DAI, that is annoying. So, I rather play as a rogue or a warrior. No I'd say it's moer jus tth etemplars really rather than everyone. Most of the mages don't really want to fight that's why they hid in Redcliffe to try to sta yout of everybody's way. It's more the mages don't like how they've been treated lately a tleas t up t oDAI an dthe onl ywa ythe yewre going t obrea kfree was t oembrace their powers asnd break awa yfrom their accor5d with the templars. I like playing mages most out of the 3 main classes. I think mos trecognise that no tall mages aer bad some may go to ofar yes like wha tOrsino and Uldred did but not al mages aer bad. Both Leliana and Cassandra recognise this and I think in some cases so does Cullen even if he does show an element of resentment toward them given what happened to him in DAO. Mages as whole in these games are quiet good fun to play. In DAI I'd say it kind of fits wel because of how the elven ruins and all that fit in too. Was thinking of playing a mqage on m ynext playthrough of DAI. I'm not playing one atm as I'm playing an elven warrior right now but I do enjoy playing mages the most.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 18, 2021 16:14:32 GMT
Play them all. My favorite is human mage with the Knight enchanter specialization.
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Post by arcanebloodwitch on Oct 3, 2021 11:01:39 GMT
A lot of people will say a female elf mage who romances Solas, but I really recommend just choosing whatever appeals to you the most.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 3, 2021 17:23:42 GMT
A lot of people will say a female elf mage who romances Solas, but I really recommend just choosing whatever appeals to you the most. Agreed whilst I do think female elven mage kind offits the stor ybest you aer bes tsticking with a chjaracte rthat suits you Currentl yplaying as an elven warrior atm though I've put m yplaythrough on hold to play some Fifa as I've been trying out the new Fifa the last couple of days admitte4dly the old gen version as PC go tthe PS4/XB1 vrsion rathr than the PS5 series x version but it's still pretty decent. Moswt of m yfemal eelven mages tend to end up with Cullen rather than Solas though
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Post by Iddy on Oct 4, 2021 16:47:32 GMT
Dalish of any class or sex, since DAI's climax is all about that elfy stuff.
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