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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 23, 2017 13:24:05 GMT
I love Viv, her voice, her snark, her style...
I hate her prejudice and privilege, her complete lack of understanding for anyone who isn't just like her.
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Post by Jarovbees on Jul 27, 2017 21:13:37 GMT
Vivienne has really grown on me, and I say this as someone who couldn't stand her at first. I disagree with practically all of her political positions, but I have to respect how she's managed to carve out a place for herself and how she doesn't take shit from anyone. The fact that she has an agenda doesn't bother me personally, and I always do her quest. As long as she fights on the front lines with me, she can have all the damn wyvern hearts she wants.
(My Inquisitors' views vary, since I try to roleplay rather than self-insert after the first playthrough. But I've never gotten her lowest approval scene yet, and her highest exactly once.)
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 4, 2017 8:20:30 GMT
Just recruited Vivienne, and during the initial conversation with her, I already want her as a romance option, despite this being my first pt. lol She killed a guy in public eye for me without question, after all, and she's only just met me. Badass. The mask looks kinda cool, and she's bald to add too? Not very often do we get bald females in the game, so this makes for a refreshing change. I can find some appeal in a bald haircut myself. And no, her bulging boobs might or might not have to do with her attraction... maybe A damn shame isn't it? They have her as a tease instead of a potential LI.
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Post by arreyanne on Sept 26, 2017 17:46:28 GMT
After the first play through I never recruited her again I very much dislike her and any conversations with her
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Post by boxofscreaming on Sept 26, 2017 18:04:39 GMT
Vivienne gets major points in my book for her cutscene in Trespasser. I could barely believe what was happening in front of my eyes. Especially the cheese wheels.
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Post by formerfiend on Sept 26, 2017 20:59:28 GMT
So something I noticed the other day while fiddling around in the Keep; you can't select that you both gave Vivienne the snowy wyvern heart in her quest but also were not friends with her. I did give her the snowy wyvern heart and never the less I have negative approval with her due to pretty much every other thing I've said or done.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Sept 28, 2017 16:44:04 GMT
So something I noticed the other day while fiddling around in the Keep; you can't select that you both gave Vivienne the snowy wyvern heart in her quest but also were not friends with her. I did give her the snowy wyvern heart and never the less I have negative approval with her due to pretty much every other thing I've said or done. Interesting. I think she became at least neutral to me after I gave her the heart and tried to be nice to her, but later decisions made her hate my guts again.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 28, 2017 20:08:48 GMT
So something I noticed the other day while fiddling around in the Keep; you can't select that you both gave Vivienne the snowy wyvern heart in her quest but also were not friends with her. I did give her the snowy wyvern heart and never the less I have negative approval with her due to pretty much every other thing I've said or done. Interesting. I think she became at least neutral to me after I gave her the heart and tried to be nice to her, but later decisions made her hate my guts again. I once did her quest, but I don't want this anymore. She's a cold-hearted politician, who very loves the Game, how the Inquisitor can't be sure, that this not for some intrigue, trap or assassination. She doesn't want to tell her reason. Who can act blindly? She uses everyone and everything for increasing her power, why would the Inquisitor the exception? No trust for her.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Sept 28, 2017 20:40:57 GMT
Interesting. I think she became at least neutral to me after I gave her the heart and tried to be nice to her, but later decisions made her hate my guts again. I once did her quest, but I don't want this anymore. She's a cold-hearted politician, who very loves the Game, how the Inquisitor can't be sure, that this not for some intrigue, trap or assassination. She doesn't want to tell her reason. Who can act blindly? She uses everyone and everything for increasing her power, why would the Inquisitor the exception? No trust for her. Well, I had to see what happened. I didn't do her other quest though because you needed to say "I want to help the Circle" to start it and I didn't.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 28, 2017 20:50:56 GMT
I once did her quest, but I don't want this anymore. She's a cold-hearted politician, who very loves the Game, how the Inquisitor can't be sure, that this not for some intrigue, trap or assassination. She doesn't want to tell her reason. Who can act blindly? She uses everyone and everything for increasing her power, why would the Inquisitor the exception? No trust for her. Well, I had to see what happened. I didn't do her other quest though because you needed to say "I want to help the Circle" to start it and I didn't. Oh! I usually find that books... and when she asks for it, I refuse her. These books go to the College of Magi. Nothing for "not-Viv".
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 5, 2017 17:33:52 GMT
Interesting. I think she became at least neutral to me after I gave her the heart and tried to be nice to her, but later decisions made her hate my guts again. I once did her quest, but I don't want this anymore. She's a cold-hearted politician, who very loves the Game, how the Inquisitor can't be sure, that this not for some intrigue, trap or assassination. She doesn't want to tell her reason. Who can act blindly? She uses everyone and everything for increasing her power, why would the Inquisitor the exception? No trust for her. Yeah, her not being straightforward about why she wants the heart (which is really out of the way to get in the first) is just reason why my Inquisitors don't get along with her. I mean for fucks sake, Sera was honest about her companion quest, but Vivienne had to be all secrety.
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Post by Artemis on Oct 5, 2017 18:49:14 GMT
I once did her quest, but I don't want this anymore. She's a cold-hearted politician, who very loves the Game, how the Inquisitor can't be sure, that this not for some intrigue, trap or assassination. She doesn't want to tell her reason. Who can act blindly? She uses everyone and everything for increasing her power, why would the Inquisitor the exception? No trust for her. Yeah, her not being straightforward about why she wants the heart (which is really out of the way to get in the first) is just reason why my Inquisitors don't get along with her. I mean for fucks sake, Sera was honest about her companion quest, but Vivienne had to be all secrety. I think it's because she doesn't want to admit how much she loves the duke and how she's hanging on by a tiny thread, emotionally speaking, at that point. She doesn't like people to know she has feelings because it may weaken her in their eyes.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 5, 2017 19:01:11 GMT
Yeah, her not being straightforward about why she wants the heart (which is really out of the way to get in the first) is just reason why my Inquisitors don't get along with her. I mean for fucks sake, Sera was honest about her companion quest, but Vivienne had to be all secrety. I think it's because she doesn't want to admit how much she loves the duke and how she's hanging on by a tiny thread, emotionally speaking, at that point. She doesn't like people to know she has feelings because it may weaken her in their eyes. Sad, but the Inquisitor doesn't know it. And if s/he consider Vivienne untrustworthy, then there's no any reason to accept her ask... Inquisitor can consider her dangerous. She's a politician. How s/he know, that Vivienne doesn't want to assasinate anyone with poison? Not mentioned, she wants Inquisitor to risk his/her life. What about if the Inquisitor die? Vivienne will use his/her hand on the rifts? Or? Not too many reason to accept this task, if the Inquisitor not a close friend of her. Not so easy to accept this quest.
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Post by Artemis on Oct 5, 2017 19:14:04 GMT
I think it's because she doesn't want to admit how much she loves the duke and how she's hanging on by a tiny thread, emotionally speaking, at that point. She doesn't like people to know she has feelings because it may weaken her in their eyes. Sad, but the Inquisitor doesn't know it. And if s/he consider Vivienne untrustworthy, then there's no any reason to accept her ask... Inquisitor can consider her dangerous. She's a politician. How s/he know, that Vivienne doesn't want to assasinate anyone with poison? Not mentioned, she wants Inquisitor to risk his/her life. What about if the Inquisitor die? Vivienne will use his/her hand on the rifts? Or? Not too many reason to accept this task, if the Inquisitor not a close friend of her. Not so easy to accept this quest. Oh, I totally agree. It's easy to role-play an inquisitor who doesn't trust her enough to get her what she asks for.
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 21, 2017 21:27:12 GMT
First, let me say that I think she's extremely well done and that the character seems to have a good heart. I disagree with her about mages and circles but given how well she's done for herself you can see why she'd take this view. Had she been in Kirkwall she'd likely be very different.
That said, I don't like her. I've seen her bicker with nearly every other companion we have. She looks down on Varric for his choices of friends, given his wealth, seemingly incapable of understanding that not all wealthy people are seeking lots of power. Now, whatever, it's always been that some seek power and others don't but I just wish she'd better get along with the people she's fighting alongside.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 23, 2017 21:23:26 GMT
First, let me say that I think she's extremely well done and that the character seems to have a good heart. I disagree with her about mages and circles but given how well she's done for herself you can see why she'd take this view. Had she been in Kirkwall she'd likely be very different. That said, I don't like her. I've seen her bicker with nearly every other companion we have. She looks down on Varric for his choices of friends, given his wealth, seemingly incapable of understanding that not all wealthy people are seeking lots of power. Now, whatever, it's always been that some seek power and others don't but I just wish she'd better get along with the people she's fighting alongside. Yeah, but her getting along with much of the companion cast would be out of character. She sees Sera and Blackwall as beneath her because their low-class vigilantes that are part of organizations that aren't controllable by the nobility or the Chantry. She hates Solas because he embodies everything she's against when it comes to Mage politics. Cole is a dangerous demon in her eyes that should be killed, though it seems she does secretly have a soft spot her them for some reason. She does sort of get along with Cassandra and Dorian, but her relationship with Cassandra is largely professional and when it comes to Dorian she spends most of her dialogue having a slightly antagonistic passive-aggressive duel of words with him. You've really mentioned her problem with Varric. Iron Bull is really the only companion she genuinely gets along with but even then their relationship is mostly Iron Bull letting Vivienne make him a sub, which is weird but also makes perfect sense. So, yeah, Vivienne doesn't get along with most people, but since the Inquisition cast is mostly made of a rag-tag bunch of weirdos and outsiders it makes sense that the prim-proper ice queen wouldn't be the most popular.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 18, 2017 21:06:31 GMT
First, let me say that I think she's extremely well done and that the character seems to have a good heart. I disagree with her about mages and circles but given how well she's done for herself you can see why she'd take this view. Had she been in Kirkwall she'd likely be very different. That said, I don't like her. I've seen her bicker with nearly every other companion we have. She looks down on Varric for his choices of friends, given his wealth, seemingly incapable of understanding that not all wealthy people are seeking lots of power. Now, whatever, it's always been that some seek power and others don't but I just wish she'd better get along with the people she's fighting alongside. I will say, her discussions with Varric only make me like Varric a whole lot more. But yeah, she's basically an uppity sorceress. Her banter with anyone outside of Dorian can get rather grating, so she generally stays benched in her loft.
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Post by shechinah on Nov 18, 2017 21:29:54 GMT
Can I ask who your profile picture is of and where the character is from?
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 10:15:41 GMT
Still in love with Vivienne. If I could romance her, I would in a heartbeat - she is just such an intrigueing and interesting character. Most of my characters don't agree with a lot of her opinions and still manage to get along well with her. I never had her redecorate my room so far, also I would love to see that scene
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 11:02:53 GMT
Still in love with Vivienne. If I could romance her, I would in a heartbeat - she is just such an intrigueing and interesting character. Most of my characters don't agree with a lot of her opinions and still manage to get along well with her. I never had her redecorate my room so far, also I would love to see that scene No, you probably not. You love her, don't ruin this feeling with that scene. She's pathetic, petty and childish in it. I love that scene, but I dislike Vivienne... But undoubtedly interesting scene.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 11:10:49 GMT
Still in love with Vivienne. If I could romance her, I would in a heartbeat - she is just such an intrigueing and interesting character. Most of my characters don't agree with a lot of her opinions and still manage to get along well with her. I never had her redecorate my room so far, also I would love to see that scene No, you probably not. You love her, don't ruin this feeling with that scene. She's pathetic, petty and childish in it. I love that scene, but I dislike Vivienne... But undoubtedly interesting scene. Oh come on - as if the other companions are not childish sometimes . I'd still love to see that scene sometimes. I can be mean to characters, I normally like, for story purpose (apart from Varric of course, I could never be mean to Varric, that is against natures law)
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 11:19:20 GMT
No, you probably not. You love her, don't ruin this feeling with that scene. She's pathetic, petty and childish in it. I love that scene, but I dislike Vivienne... But undoubtedly interesting scene. Oh come on - as if the other companions are not childish sometimes . I'd still love to see that scene sometimes. I can be mean to characters, I normally like, for story purpose (apart from Varric of course, I could never be mean to Varric, that is against natures law) I like when the characters fall from the pedestal... it is very much part of her nature.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 19, 2017 11:29:48 GMT
Oh come on - as if the other companions are not childish sometimes . I'd still love to see that scene sometimes. I can be mean to characters, I normally like, for story purpose (apart from Varric of course, I could never be mean to Varric, that is against natures law) I like when the characters fall from the pedestal... it is very much part of her nature. Yes, and it is more believable.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 19, 2017 11:31:43 GMT
I like when the characters fall from the pedestal... it is very much part of her nature. Yes, and it is more believable. It makes her (almost) lovable!
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