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Post by lordmoral on Sept 9, 2021 20:48:45 GMT
Hello, while I am usually in the Mass Effect area I ran into this bit of news, I am glad that this is happening and I hope it is available on other consoles but, why does this game (and Dead Space) get a Remake while the Mass Effect Legendary Edition gets a Remaster and with the same bugs and glitches, and cut content and the fact that we only get one scene with A/K on Horizon but regardless, here is the link (if modders think it is better to join my thread with someone else I won't be mad): www.gameinformer.com/2021/09/09/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-announced-for-ps5?fbclid=IwAR00w1o5aM2Yu33MrnG0h4COdXRwZXOWxccBUscPY514BxtrsAR5K93Hp9UEdit: As shown to me by a fellow commenter the game has been confirmed that this will be a timed exclusive to PS5/PC, here is the Tweet in question and thanks to the user who sent the tip:
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Post by ShadowAngel on Sept 9, 2021 21:05:38 GMT
I personally don’t think any of the ME games even need a remake but from a company perspective it likely comes down to cost of the project as well as their expectations on what they think the interest level will be for the public. I mean a remake is technically building the game from scratch after all, much more expensive than a remaster where you slap new paint on the exterior with maybe a few minor improvements to the UI or something.
I hear EA was surprised ME legendary did better than expected but personally they couldn’t even give actual numbers. Furthermore some articles put it out there like ME:L doing so well would mean more mass effect as if we didn’t already know that.
In general though, it’s up to the companies on whether they do a remake or remaster, a remaster tends to be the safer option as well as the cheaper one, remakes risk screwing things up if not handled right. Hell there are people out there that don’t see the point in dead space being remade and some are even worried it’ll actually be an inferior product to the original.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 9, 2021 21:17:37 GMT
I personally don’t think any of the ME games even need a remake but from a company perspective it likely comes down to cost of the project as well as their expectations on what they think the interest level will be for the public. I mean a remake is technically building the game from scratch after all, much more expensive than a remaster where you slap new paint on the exterior with maybe a few minor improvements to the UI or something. I hear EA was surprised ME legendary did better than expected but personally they couldn’t even give actual numbers. Furthermore some articles put it out there like ME:L doing so well would mean more mass effect as if we didn’t already know that. In general though, it’s up to the companies on whether they do a remake or remaster, a remaster tends to be the safer option as well as the cheaper one, remakes risk screwing things up if not handled right. Hell there are people out there that don’t see the point in dead space being remade and some are even worried it’ll actually be an inferior product to the original. Star War content is now overseen by Disney (hence why Bioware isn't involved), Dead Space only needed the zero g fixed as it is atrocious in the original because I understand it was a pretty solid entry, that EA was surprised that the LE did better than it did means they didn't payed attention to their user base.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 9, 2021 22:12:26 GMT
Pretty excited but surprised at no involvement period from bio. I guess disney really didn't put out a good output.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 9, 2021 22:23:12 GMT
It's weird hearing Queen Jenna talking in a Star Wars video game... I'm being facetious, don't mind me.  edit: and now I wonder what they are going to change to make it part of the new canon (which also probably mean that SWTOR is going to go back to being semi-canon, bouahahahah).
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Sept 9, 2021 22:29:20 GMT
SWTOR can go fuck itself.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Sept 9, 2021 22:31:40 GMT
Pretty excited but surprised at no involvement period from bio. I guess disney really didn't put out a good output. Could be BioWare wasn't interested or didn't have the time, preferring to focus on DA and ME. It sounds like a number of ex-BioWare employees are working on it though, some going back to original KOTOR.
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Post by lordmoral on Sept 9, 2021 22:34:24 GMT
BTW: this could be a game that is launching first on that new console called the PS5 that I have been hearing about a lot, you PC and owners of the equally new Xbox Series X might see it yet.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 9, 2021 23:02:36 GMT
www.pcgamer.com/kotor-remake/Lucasfilm confirmed it is coming for PC as well, according to PC Gamer. KOTOR was my first Bioware game and remains in my top two games from them (other being DAO). I sunk an unhealthy amount of time into it. Remake, rather than remaster is interesting. If it is successful, I wonder if there'll also be a remake of KOTOR II and then eventually, the mythical KOTOR III  Also; I figured that Fallen Order was the reason they nixed Apeiron's mod. Maybe not.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 9, 2021 23:09:09 GMT
Pretty excited but surprised at no involvement period from bio. I guess disney really didn't put out a good output. Could be BioWare wasn't interested or didn't have the time, preferring to focus on DA and ME. It sounds like a number of ex-BioWare employees are working on it though, some going back to original KOTOR. Didn't they draw a line in the sand some time ago about this kind of thing? They pivoted to work only on their own IPs? Since it is a remake, not a remaster, there isn't any real need for Bioware to be involved, either.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Sept 10, 2021 0:03:47 GMT
So...it might be a timed exclusive for PS5 with PC coming later. So places are saying timed exclusive and others aren't mentioning it at all, just that PC is getting it as well.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Sept 10, 2021 0:04:36 GMT
www.pcgamer.com/kotor-remake/Lucasfilm confirmed it is coming for PC as well, according to PC Gamer. KOTOR was my first Bioware game and remains in my top two games from them (other being DAO). I sunk an unhealthy amount of time into it. Remake, rather than remaster is interesting. If it is successful, I wonder if there'll also be a remake of KOTOR II and then eventually, the mythical KOTOR III  Also; I figured that Fallen Order was the reason they nixed Apeiron's mod. Maybe not. This is my same story - Kotor was my first BioWare game and I think I only put DAO above it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 10, 2021 3:12:31 GMT
So...it might be a timed exclusive for PS5 with PC coming later. So places are saying timed exclusive and others aren't mentioning it at all, just that PC is getting it as well. Hopefully Xbox players aren’t screwed over. Especially since KOTOR was originally an Xbox exclusive.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 10, 2021 3:38:38 GMT
The reason for the remake of this would have nothing to do with EA or BioWare its between Asypr and the LucasArts division at Disney. As far as Dead Space and Mass Effect that is what the developers thought those were what would work best for that situation. It could even be that they experimented with a Dead Space remaster and realized that they couldn't get it to run on the new consoles or PC hardware properly with the changes they wanted. Since it used a game engine that Redwood Studios used for the Godfather game and then customized it further for Dead Space since they were familiar with it already. Where Mass Effect used Unreal and was updated to the newest version of Unreal 3 and were able to add new effects to that engine.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Sept 10, 2021 4:58:55 GMT
It's weird hearing Queen Jenna talking in a Star Wars video game... I'm being facetious, don't mind me.  edit: and now I wonder what they are going to change to make it part of the new canon (which also probably mean that SWTOR is going to go back to being semi-canon, bouahahahah). First thing I'm expecting to be sacrificed, unfortunately, is the customization of Revan, both in appearance and in morals/personality. I'd be pretty surprised if they make Revan a true RPG protagonist anymore, if they want to build a cohesive canon. SWTOR's Revan sucked because of this but he was born out of a necessity to fit him into the SW canon, so I'm not holding my breath for too much freedom in that department.
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Post by chris2365 on Sept 10, 2021 5:06:15 GMT
I for one am very excited! In a released statement, the dev team at Aspyr said they plan to modernize the graphics, features and gameplay, while staying true to the original story and characters. Developers from the original KOTOR are also onboard, and Sony support is great considering their recent great track record with exclusives. It's also confirmed that voice actors such as Jennifer Hale and others will reprise their original roles as Bastila and others. As far as a remake goes, that information is about as good of a first impression you can make, in my view at least! They said they are in early development, so I think it'll be a 2023 release, which will also coincide with the 20th anniversary of the original KOTOR's release. Is it too early to start counting down the days 
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 10, 2021 6:03:33 GMT
Yes, I was about to get sleep but then that news just scrolled to my view, had to check the teaser. A bit stoked am I? yes.
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Post by saandrig on Sept 10, 2021 9:07:37 GMT
So...it might be a timed exclusive for PS5 with PC coming later. So places are saying timed exclusive and others aren't mentioning it at all, just that PC is getting it as well. Doesn't "console exclusive" mean it's only an exclusive for the selected console? Usually that doesn't affect the PC release and the game launches simultaneously for the console and PC. If it was worded like a "timed PS5 exclusive", then that would mean it will launch later on all other platforms, including PC.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 10, 2021 10:07:41 GMT
So...it might be a timed exclusive for PS5 with PC coming later. So places are saying timed exclusive and others aren't mentioning it at all, just that PC is getting it as well. Doesn't "console exclusive" mean it's only an exclusive for the selected console? Usually that doesn't affect the PC release and the game launches simultaneously for the console and PC. If it was worded like a "timed PS5 exclusive", then that would mean it will launch later on all other platforms, including PC. Console exclusive means that it releases only on a console platform.
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Post by aglomeracja on Sept 10, 2021 10:19:02 GMT
Hah! Finally! I wonder how much they will change in terms of story and game mechanics. I hope it will remain an RPG.
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Post by saandrig on Sept 10, 2021 10:32:00 GMT
Console exclusive means that it releases only on a console platform. The wording of the announcement is unclear, so I will wait for concrete clarifications. But so far it seems people believe (or hope) it means it will launch at the same time on the PS5 and PC. But we are probably 2-3 years away. Lot can happen.
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Post by Zemgus on Sept 10, 2021 10:49:33 GMT
I hope they're not afraid to change certain things in the remake because lot of the dialogue in the game is not particularly well written and almost all the dark side choices were just ridiculously over the top stupid evil. Keep the main plot intact but everything else should be looked at as an opportunity for improvement.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 10, 2021 11:33:53 GMT
SWTOR can go fuck itself. Maybe this is just me, but I get these two games confused all the time.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 10, 2021 12:12:40 GMT
I just saw above that they are going to keep the same voice actors.
Mission Vao and Juhani are going to sound older. Catherine Taber and Courtney Taylor sound older then they did back then.
Canderous Ordo and Master Vrook will have to be recast I guess. RIP John Cygan and Ed Asner.
And I just realized that the Juhani romance could be made into a full romance as Luke intended.
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