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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 9, 2021 0:58:37 GMT
No, I’m not excited. Quite the opposite, as this piece of news killed any interest I had in this game. This is now the third time BioWare has abandoned a protagonist and their story before they were completed. First the Inquisitor, then the Freelancer, and now Ryder. So why should I care about these new characters, when BioWare is just going to drop them too?
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 9, 2021 1:11:21 GMT
This is now the third time BioWare has abandoned a protagonist and their story before they were completed Bioware has been abandoning support to their games in the QA state so far, only now it is something that bothers you and I agree that Ryder has potential to grow as he matured as the story progressed.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 1:34:18 GMT
I’m not saying you or anyone should support BioWare only for avoiding making them fall. What I’m saying is that if what you believe is correct, that the next games will be mediocre no matter what and regardless of its quality DA4 won’t sell well enough to satisfy EA, then EA will shut down BioWare long before NME will be released, so their decision to go for new or old crew will be moot. The game won’t be released either way. Doesn't matter. The company needs to continue operations until such an event and until such an event, it owes itself to make the decisions that will ensure the studios longevity and success. I also don’t think that going for a new protagonist or crew at this point, can be considered ‘fighting the fanbase’. How long does the fanbase have to clamor and warn Bioware about the state of the studio's reputation, public perception and franchise condition, to be considered "fighting the fanbase" when they do none of the things that the fanbase is asking? What do we need to do? Take hostages and burn churches? We write reviews, we engage in communities, in social media, we engage with every means possible and all we get from Bioware is ignored. I know they don't like us, they don't have to, but they have to think of their jobs as well. Or maybe they don't care for those either. I guess management could find work in a different studio, but the low level employees? Fuck them, right? Food stamps! Could it be a bad move? Definitely I am glad you agree. But the OT ended, no matter what we think about its ending, years ago By fucking it up. Going in a different direction as they did with Andromeda and seemingly with NME could not be good moves for the company’s future, but they’re not made to piss off the fanbase or fight them off. Definitely not to appease them, though. I don't know how to tell you this, but when people sometimes try to convey something to some people and get ignored, it does piss them off. You think that when the Last Jedi came out and people got mad and shouted how that movie fucks up the franchise irreparably, but Disney went on to make Rise of Skywalker, it was done to appease the fans? Did it work? When Dr. Who followed up the Timeless Child with Flux and statements about how the BBC and Chris Chinball will not be taking the retcon back, was that done to appease the fans? Or was it to spite them? When the EC did not change the endings, was it done to appease the fans, or spite them? What about the Refuse ending? What about going off in a different direction, when the audience asked for a "ME3 sequel" and we got Andromeda instead? Which is not a ME3 sequel. If Bioware is doing all these things for the fans, why are they not doing what the fans ask, but seem to spite them, at every turn? Why do they keep doubling down on a failed direction to this franchise? Not only that, why do they keep failing? Where is the success? Find it for me, where is it? Nowhere, none of these titles succeeded in anything, except closing Bioware Montreal down. On your point on the new crew on the following post, you have to realize that, here at least, a number of people don’t share your view on the crew of later games. They happen to like or love characters from DA2, DAI and MEA. If they liked or loved some of the new characters in those games, it’s obvious that they’d be fine with a new crew in NME. So they like failures and want people to get left without jobs. I'm going to say it again, Will Continue will be the 8th, if it goes down this path. If they want to get what they want, they will, at least, for once, push for the studio to get one slight commercial success. Earn some good will, earn some credit, some standing. Instead, they want this studio to jump to its death with Dragon Age 4. That's where it's going. Do people want DA4 to be Bioware's last game? It's shaping up to be. It's a fucking mess and they're panicking. Which is why you see tweets from John Epler about how proud he is of his work. You know where else do you see tweets like that? From Comic Book Pros, when their titles sold 15k and got canceled. You can look it up. For every comic book artist out there, that had a title canceled, there was a similar post. Vita Ayala, Maggs Visagio, Al Ewing, Tom Taylor, Tom King, Scott Snyder, Tini Howard (which I like, btw), this is the post you make to say "it was unfairly judged, we did good work". And I've been saying it, two years now, that this is the state of Bioware. And it didn't change. And also, possibly, for a few people, if the character writing will be bland (and that could happen with both new or old characters), then they don’t care about those being new or old. Or some aren’t interested in playing with Shepard and the crew again. To these people, I'd say to move on to a different franchise. Because out of the current titles, there's a 75% chance to play as Shepard. And the writing won't get better, either. It's like playing Halo to play as Solid Snake. Find it somewhere else. Because this is neither going to be a good game, nor a good Mass Effect game. Or even a good sci-fi game. There's an overwhelming chance that it's going to be shit and all the characters should have been chugged in the trash, during the design stage.
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Post by talyn82 on Nov 9, 2021 1:59:41 GMT
No, I’m not excited. Quite the opposite, as this piece of news killed any interest I had in this game. This is now the third time BioWare has abandoned a protagonist and their story before they were completed. First the Inquisitor, then the Freelancer, and now Ryder. So why should I care about these new characters, when BioWare is just going to drop them too? BioWare has been doing this since KOTOR 1. They abandoned KOTOR/Revan for Jade Empire which they also abandoned. The Grey Warden was abandoned for Hawke, and then Hawke was abandoned for the Inquisitor, and now the Inquisitor is being abandoned for a new guy/gal. The only BioWare games I am aware of that stuck to the same Protagonists are the first two Baldur's Gate games and the Mass Effect Trilogy. In the case of KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age Origins. Those games were developed during BioWare's prime. When the two doctors still owned the company. So it's not just the current BW/EA that is to blame. They got a long track record. Personally never been a fan of Protagonists being abandoned for a new one.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 9, 2021 1:59:54 GMT
No, I’m not excited. Quite the opposite, as this piece of news killed any interest I had in this game. This is now the third time BioWare has abandoned a protagonist and their story before they were completed. First the Inquisitor, then the Freelancer, and now Ryder. So why should I care about these new characters, when BioWare is just going to drop them too? Don't forget Shepard. Their story isn't finished. The guy did say one more story. I like to hear that story.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 9, 2021 5:04:06 GMT
No, I’m not excited. Quite the opposite, as this piece of news killed any interest I had in this game. This is now the third time BioWare has abandoned a protagonist and their story before they were completed. First the Inquisitor, then the Freelancer, and now Ryder. So why should I care about these new characters, when BioWare is just going to drop them too? BioWare has been doing this since KOTOR 1. They abandoned KOTOR/Revan for Jade Empire which they also abandoned. The Grey Warden was abandoned for Hawke, and then Hawke was abandoned for the Inquisitor, and now the Inquisitor is being abandoned for a new guy/gal. The only BioWare games I am aware of that stuck to the same Protagonists are the first two Baldur's Gate games and the Mass Effect Trilogy. In the case of KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age Origins. Those games were developed during BioWare's prime. When the two doctors still owned the company. So it's not just the current BW/EA that is to blame. They got a long track record. Personally never been a fan of Protagonists being abandoned for a new one. Revan I disagree was abandoned. At the end of KOTOR, their story was finished with them either saving or dominating the galaxy. Sure Obsidian and later Bioware themselves would undo that, but that's a different issue. Haven't played Jade Empire, so I'll have to take your word on it. But at least that wasn't a habit yet. The Hero of Ferelden's story was complete: they defeated the Blight. Agree on Hawke, as well as other issues with them. So that's four out of the last five. I'm fine with no changing protagonists if they are no longer needed. Sometimes using the same one too long ruins them as well. But yeah, when you have their story unfinished finish that story.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 9, 2021 5:30:33 GMT
I’m not saying you or anyone should support BioWare only for avoiding making them fall. What I’m saying is that if what you believe is correct, that the next games will be mediocre no matter what and regardless of its quality DA4 won’t sell well enough to satisfy EA, then EA will shut down BioWare long before NME will be released, so their decision to go for new or old crew will be moot. The game won’t be released either way. Doesn't matter. The company needs to continue operations until such an event and until such an event, it owes itself to make the decisions that will ensure the studios longevity and success. I also don’t think that going for a new protagonist or crew at this point, can be considered ‘fighting the fanbase’. How long does the fanbase have to clamor and warn Bioware about the state of the studio's reputation, public perception and franchise condition, to be considered "fighting the fanbase" when they do none of the things that the fanbase is asking? What do we need to do? Take hostages and burn churches? We write reviews, we engage in communities, in social media, we engage with every means possible and all we get from Bioware is ignored. I know they don't like us, they don't have to, but they have to think of their jobs as well. Or maybe they don't care for those either. I guess management could find work in a different studio, but the low level employees? Fuck them, right? Food stamps! Could it be a bad move? Definitely I am glad you agree. But the OT ended, no matter what we think about its ending, years ago By fucking it up. Going in a different direction as they did with Andromeda and seemingly with NME could not be good moves for the company’s future, but they’re not made to piss off the fanbase or fight them off. Definitely not to appease them, though. I don't know how to tell you this, but when people sometimes try to convey something to some people and get ignored, it does piss them off. You think that when the Last Jedi came out and people got mad and shouted how that movie fucks up the franchise irreparably, but Disney went on to make Rise of Skywalker, it was done to appease the fans? Did it work? When Dr. Who followed up the Timeless Child with Flux and statements about how the BBC and Chris Chinball will not be taking the retcon back, was that done to appease the fans? Or was it to spite them? When the EC did not change the endings, was it done to appease the fans, or spite them? What about the Refuse ending? What about going off in a different direction, when the audience asked for a "ME3 sequel" and we got Andromeda instead? Which is not a ME3 sequel. If Bioware is doing all these things for the fans, why are they not doing what the fans ask, but seem to spite them, at every turn? Why do they keep doubling down on a failed direction to this franchise? Not only that, why do they keep failing? Where is the success? Find it for me, where is it? Nowhere, none of these titles succeeded in anything, except closing Bioware Montreal down. On your point on the new crew on the following post, you have to realize that, here at least, a number of people don’t share your view on the crew of later games. They happen to like or love characters from DA2, DAI and MEA. If they liked or loved some of the new characters in those games, it’s obvious that they’d be fine with a new crew in NME. So they like failures and want people to get left without jobs. I'm going to say it again, Will Continue will be the 8th, if it goes down this path. If they want to get what they want, they will, at least, for once, push for the studio to get one slight commercial success. Earn some good will, earn some credit, some standing. Instead, they want this studio to jump to its death with Dragon Age 4. That's where it's going. Do people want DA4 to be Bioware's last game? It's shaping up to be. It's a fucking mess and they're panicking. Which is why you see tweets from John Epler about how proud he is of his work. You know where else do you see tweets like that? From Comic Book Pros, when their titles sold 15k and got canceled. You can look it up. For every comic book artist out there, that had a title canceled, there was a similar post. Vita Ayala, Maggs Visagio, Al Ewing, Tom Taylor, Tom King, Scott Snyder, Tini Howard (which I like, btw), this is the post you make to say "it was unfairly judged, we did good work". And I've been saying it, two years now, that this is the state of Bioware. And it didn't change. And also, possibly, for a few people, if the character writing will be bland (and that could happen with both new or old characters), then they don’t care about those being new or old. Or some aren’t interested in playing with Shepard and the crew again. To these people, I'd say to move on to a different franchise. Because out of the current titles, there's a 75% chance to play as Shepard. And the writing won't get better, either. It's like playing Halo to play as Solid Snake. Find it somewhere else. Because this is neither going to be a good game, nor a good Mass Effect game. Or even a good sci-fi game. There's an overwhelming chance that it's going to be shit and all the characters should have been chugged in the trash, during the design stage. The fanbase doesn’t have to warn BioWare of anything, though. They don’t have to continue to follow BioWare and their games, and they can move on, given that’s it’s clear that BioWare considers Shepard’s story to be done. I do understand the attachment to the franchise or the software house for their past games, and that even at this stage they might not want to see BioWare shut down or have hope for a new ME game with Shepard, but if the company isn’t doing the kind of games you want them to do, in terms of story, gameplay, and more, it’d be best to move on. I do agree that they might not try to appease them, but for all its shortcoming BioWare have been clear that Shepard’s story is done. Not going for a continuation might not be what they want, but it’s not done to piss off them, intentionally. The fact that you could end up disappointed or pissed is normal, but to return to the previous point, it’d be better to move by now. Although to be fair, the teaser for NME was obviously going to make People think Shepard could be back. Another reason for leaving Liara behind, I guess. The problem with DA4’s success or failure, though, would still be central and present even if they went for Shepard as the PC for NME. Again, if the game will determine Bioware’s future, then any talk about NME and whatever they’ll do is moot. They could’ve announced Shepard to be back and the game could still end up canceled if DA4 fails. Appeasing the fans with NME is irrelevant, at this point. We could debate if EA and BioWare should’ve simply decided to scrap DA and focus on NME as their redemption path, but that ship sailed a long time ago. I’m not sure what you meant about your last part and the 75% chance to play as Shepard.
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Post by talyn82 on Nov 9, 2021 6:41:09 GMT
BioWare has been doing this since KOTOR 1. They abandoned KOTOR/Revan for Jade Empire which they also abandoned. The Grey Warden was abandoned for Hawke, and then Hawke was abandoned for the Inquisitor, and now the Inquisitor is being abandoned for a new guy/gal. The only BioWare games I am aware of that stuck to the same Protagonists are the first two Baldur's Gate games and the Mass Effect Trilogy. In the case of KOTOR, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age Origins. Those games were developed during BioWare's prime. When the two doctors still owned the company. So it's not just the current BW/EA that is to blame. They got a long track record. Personally never been a fan of Protagonists being abandoned for a new one. Revan I disagree was abandoned. At the end of KOTOR, their story was finished with them either saving or dominating the galaxy. Sure Obsidian and later Bioware themselves would undo that, but that's a different issue. Haven't played Jade Empire, so I'll have to take your word on it. But at least that wasn't a habit yet. The Hero of Ferelden's story was complete: they defeated the Blight. Agree on Hawke, as well as other issues with them. So that's four out of the last five. I'm fine with no changing protagonists if they are no longer needed. Sometimes using the same one too long ruins them as well. But yeah, when you have their story unfinished finish that story. About Revan at the time they were the hottest name in Star Wars. Many wanted to continue their adventure as Revan. Obsidian created a new Protagonist and even though at the time I wanted more Revan. The Exile became my favorite of the two protagonists. So for me that worked out. I was just stating that Revan was a hot commodity at that time. As for the Grey Warden, I enjoyed my Warden and wanted to see what was next for them. Hawke I do not mind, but like the Warden I wanted to see more of them. The Inquisitor I don't know much about. I only know that one of the companions will most likely be the enemy in the upcoming game. So I figured since they had history the Inquisitor would be brought back. I too never played Jade Empire, but many on here have wanted a sequel for a long time, and BioWare has abandoned that idea.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 9, 2021 10:24:13 GMT
I think it was a major selling point experiencing the trilogy with one main character. And have companions evolve over the course. But the trilogy is done and the main character is dead. I'd rather not have the old companions be used as a sales pitch for the new game and since MET I have come to appreciate good voice acting, but I don't need to have the same ones every game I play. Then again playing second grade characters isn't so hot and what would be able to keep up with Shepard?
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 9, 2021 10:27:36 GMT
Dragon age has always had approach of having new protagonists, so the inquisitor hasn't been abandoned and their journey was pretty complete. Ryder may very well have been abandoned(thankfully imo) but that's what happens to characters/games that fall flat on their face. The choice is really create a fixed version of Shep ignoring all player choice(which sits very badly with me given the genre) or go down a new protagonist route and try and do a better job at the second time of asking.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 9, 2021 10:38:45 GMT
Thankfully Shepard is gone. If no Ryder comes back, then I'll take new player character and crew, but as we know Andromeda will be there too so lets see what happens actually.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 10:42:27 GMT
Dragon age has always had approach of having new protagonists, so the inquisitor hasn't been abandoned and their journey was pretty complete. Ryder may very well have been abandoned(thankfully imo) but that's what happens to characters/games that fall flat on their face. The choice is really create a fixed version of Shep ignoring all player choice(which sits very badly with me given the genre) or go down a new protagonist route and try and do a better job at the second time of asking. They have to make the choice. At this point there is no option. They are going to have to make the choice and set a canon. They can't bullshit their way forward.
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 9, 2021 10:53:52 GMT
Dragon age has always had approach of having new protagonists, so the inquisitor hasn't been abandoned and their journey was pretty complete. Ryder may very well have been abandoned(thankfully imo) but that's what happens to characters/games that fall flat on their face. The choice is really create a fixed version of Shep ignoring all player choice(which sits very badly with me given the genre) or go down a new protagonist route and try and do a better job at the second time of asking. They have to make the choice. At this point there is no option. They are going to have to make the choice and set a canon. They can't bullshit their way forward. If its set 500 years plus past ME3, you have to canonise far less and what's canonised is going to be less personal.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 11:06:47 GMT
The fanbase doesn’t have to warn BioWare of anything, though Yes, it does. Every fanbase does that. Whether you're a Dr.Who fan, or a Star Trek fan, or a Star Wars fan, or a Cubs fan, when your franchise fucks up, the fans will shout as hard as they can, about when things are going wrong. They don’t have to continue to follow BioWare and their games, and they can move on Most have. We are the leftovers' leftovers. given that’s it’s clear that BioWare considers Shepard’s story to be done That's a mistake, because they fucked up with how the pulled the plug on it. Also, because they can't replace him. I do understand the attachment to the franchise or the software house for their past games, and that even at this stage they might not want to see BioWare shut down or have hope for a new ME game with Shepard, but if the company isn’t doing the kind of games you want them to do, in terms of story, gameplay, and more, it’d be best to move on Not an answer. It's like seeing Earth get Destroyed by global warming and going "just find another planet, lmao". This is the only studio that does these kinds of games. Nobody else does it like this. It's the sad truth. Or did. And it was doing great, up until it stopped doing it. So there might be a correlation, between them fucking up and not doing what they use to do. Call me nuts. I do agree that they might not try to appease them, but for all its shortcoming BioWare have been clear that Shepard’s story is done It doesn't matter what they think. And don't you, for a second, doubt that there have been conversations internally about bringing him back. There's even a plan for that. And for Ryder. His story is only as done, until it isn't. And that can change at any moment. It could change yesterday. You have no idea. Not going for a continuation might not be what they want, but it’s not done to piss off them, intentionally No, the point is to save face. It should also be about saving their jobs. They're walking into a fucking disaster. The fact that you could end up disappointed or pissed is normal, but to return to the previous point, it’d be better to move by now. I'm going to say this to all concerned:"unless you're my therapist, my doctor, my lawyer, my dad, the person that pays my bills, or my boss, don't tell me what to do". Goes for everyone. Although to be fair, the teaser for NME was obviously going to make People think Shepard could be back. Another reason for leaving Liara behind, I guess. Not only that, they think Wrex is back too, now. So it's an even bigger fuck up. The problem with DA4’s success or failure, though, would still be central and present even if they went for Shepard as the PC for NME. Again, if the game will determine Bioware’s future, then any talk about NME and whatever they’ll do is moot DA4 will limp them to the next game, because nobody cares for it to roast it. It's going to get a pass from literally everyone, but because it won't cause a controversy, unless they really fuck it up. Wouldn't that be grand. I’m not sure what you meant about your last part and the 75% chance to play as Shepard. There's 4 games in the franchise. You have a 75% chance by picking at random, to play as Shepard. So to the people not wanting to play as Shepard, this is the highest chance of playing as Shepard, out of all the franchises out there. So the solution to that, is not play Mass Effect. It's like wanting to watch a Star Wars movie and saying you don't want to see a Skywalker.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 9, 2021 12:20:29 GMT
Little Duck's story is finished. The duck completed the mission. The mission was to find humanity a home, was it not? With Meridian found, and being the new home for humanity, little Ryder is no longer needed.
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 9, 2021 12:21:26 GMT
For all we know they could put Shepard in and say: he is in a secret location of the game frozen with anyone who isn't Liara or Wrex (which likely passed up) and as for Javik well, how long do Protheans last?
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Post by Hier0phant on Nov 9, 2021 12:36:28 GMT
Hopefully there will be another big booty Judy.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 12:43:47 GMT
Hopefully there will be another big booty Judy. That's sexist and misogynistic. So it's not happening.
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Post by Hier0phant on Nov 9, 2021 12:48:44 GMT
Hopefully there will be another big booty Judy. That's sexist and misogynistic. So it's not happening.
Outrageous i won't be denied!
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Post by garrusfan1 on Nov 9, 2021 12:53:46 GMT
Dragon age has always had approach of having new protagonists, so the inquisitor hasn't been abandoned and their journey was pretty complete. Ryder may very well have been abandoned(thankfully imo) but that's what happens to characters/games that fall flat on their face. The choice is really create a fixed version of Shep ignoring all player choice(which sits very badly with me given the genre) or go down a new protagonist route and try and do a better job at the second time of asking. The inquisitors story was not just complete. He lost an arm at the elbow which means unless he was a mage he can no longer fight like he used to. You need two hands to play as a warrior or to play as a rogue. Yes I know in one of the epilogue slides the inquistor has a crossbow hand but lets be honest it was probably weak and by making the inquisitor lose an arm they were making sure he couldn't come back as the protagonist in the next DA game. Unless they have someone use blood magic or something to have them regrow his arm but that would be way out there. The only bioware games I have played are the DA games and the ME games. Like you said the DA games have always had a different protagonist and they literally said that ME3 was sheapards story ending. I hated that ending and am still pissed about it but it was the ending.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Nov 9, 2021 12:57:08 GMT
Hopefully there will be another big booty Judy. That's sexist and misogynistic. So it's not happening.
Sex sells my friend and money is king. There will be attractive characters in the next ME game. Even comic books which have become ultra woke have half naked women with impossible figures in them.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 13:01:41 GMT
Sex sells my friend and money is king. There will be attractive characters in the next ME game. Even comic books which have become ultra woke have half naked women with impossible figures in them. Meanwhile the half naked women with impossible figures in Marvel comics Yeah. No. That's She-Hulk, by the way, not Hulk.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 9, 2021 13:04:02 GMT
More She-Hulk I'd post Captain Marvel, but the art is disgusting. I can post Nebula too, if you want.
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 9, 2021 13:14:03 GMT
That's sexist and misogynistic. So it's not happening.
Sex sells my friend and money is king. There will be attractive characters in the next ME game. Even comic books which have become ultra woke have half naked women with impossible figures in them. Not as confident as you of beautiful characters. You're definitely far more likely to see a scantily clad male than a female showing skin now.
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 9, 2021 13:18:55 GMT
Tali VA did some work on ME:A, so having old VA back isn't out of the realm of possibilities but, you are asking if the beloved characters will return and my answer is: while we might see OT characters return in smaller roles (again, look at Hawkes in DAI) we have to remember this is Bioware we are talking about. For whatever reason they seemingly dropped support for a release such as the Legendary Edition, and most people don't seem to mind much and are actively telling me to shut up as there are no bugs as that hasn't happened or isn't bothering them, as well Pinnacle Station so, while we can get to talk about the game with excitement please have low expectations for either camp you are in.
Bioware made their choice and I beat most of us have made peace with that but for some reason we hold on to that last bit of ignorant hope that x, y, z happens.
Is there a place for multiple PC? Yes, Grand Theft Auto V did it while focusing on one character.
Will Bioware go the extra mile and do it? That is something their current work ethic and planning can answer, well s---.
Do the PS5, Series X and current PC handle that much content (multiple parties of characters, two galaxies worth of maps in various sizes also taking into account fixed mission maps)? Open World games seem to be getting bigger and bigger and while maps like Havarl in ME:A showed the potential a small but well open world map can be done, there are also examples like Eos where there is just too much travel now, if there are more than one method of transportation (aerial, ground, underwater, etc) you can have those occasional big maps. You would likely need 200 GB to run that game bit again, it is up to how much effort Bioware puts behind the game design and well, we hope they have learned but looking at their current attitude towards the LE we can only hold up for disappointment and be surprised if they surpass them.
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