Venting - Learn from Halo infinite plasma weapons

Perswonally I'm happ ywit hthe system as it is. So not really from my perspectiveBesidesw ther are ways in which you can have weapons wit ha cool own a was don ein MEA when you jus tput an aug into your gun t oreplac ethe thermal clip system. Besidews I believe you can manuall yven tthem jus tpress the reload button in ME3 and in MEA I believe as I've done it.

WHY must one game take lessons from another? Why can't they do things individually and be praised for that? There is NOTING wrong with the way ME does things. :/

Agreed

The thermal clip system was an improved on the ME1 system. I don't have any intrinsic tie to them but nor a desire to get rid at any cost.If they can create a better system great, if not they are a perfectly serviceable mechanic for a shooter.

Sorry, but I am very much in favor making all weapons stick to thermal clips, as I think it makes for a more diverse weapon set. Maybe the odd overheat weapon in the mix could work, but that makes it harder to balance.

And quite frankly I despise the idea of the hybrid overheat+clip/vent system, as every argument for it seems to boil down to "oh no I overheated my gun and I do not want to wait for it to cool down".

The point of the overheat system was so that you would not (could not) fire your gun continuously -- and if you did overheat then you had to switch to another gun or wait until it cooled down -- but then they gave you mods so you would never overheat your gun, thereby killing the concept.

That is not to say that overheat could not work if done correctly. The Legendary Edition version of Mass Effect 1 gave us some different-handling guns with the overheat mechanic, but to truly make it work, I think you would need really to adjust the Time-To-Overheat and Time-To-Cooldown for each gun to really make them stand out.

But even then, thermal clips/ammo can force you to use multiple guns instead of just sticking to a single gun, which I thinks helps make for a better weapon set. I also really want them to bring back to ME3 mechanic of each gun performing differently against different protection layers, as it helped separate the weapons even more.

On ME3, depending on the gun, thermal clips were actually WAY better. Geth Pulse rifle, Revenant, Geth plasma smg(i think) and unquestionably the N7 Typhoon X, when used by the Adrenalin Rush soldier and equipped to have high clip capacity, LITERALLY BECOMES AN UNLIMITED AMMO GUN. NON STOP SHOOTING. This is also true for multiplayer with a fast enough cooldown. Just move around and get those thermal clips while you're shooting. I have literally soloed Gold in the past with this technique and the Typhoon, kills faster than even most vanguard builds.

The lore reason for thermal clips is that they shoot faster and reload faster, and whomever can do that faster has the advantage. Well under that situation I described in ME3, that is unquestionably true.

Now imagine a battlefield of dozens if not hundreds N7 (or at least adrenaline rush having) soldiers with Typhoons. All in a line heading towards the enemy with their unlimited ammo. FAR outweighs the heat venting days.


On a separate note, whenever I decide to play Soldier Shep (I usually do Sentinel, Vanguard, or Infiltrator), if you have done multiple playthroughs and have enough money, with a lot of weapons leveled out at X and Level 5 weight reductions for all guns, Shepard can carry an N7 Typhoon, any SMG, Indra sniper rifle, N7 Piranha shotgun, and either a Phalanx or Eagle or similarly weighted pistol...giving you all 5 guns like Me2....and if you time it right you can STILL do the unlimited ammo non stop shooting thing with the Typhoon via thermal clips because of Adrenaline Rush. And thats WITH fortification (depending on intel terminal recharge speeds). Level 60 or close to it of course lol.

Most people have no idea just how overpowered the classes really are, Soldier included

Pardon me but point me to the halo game BESIDES halo infinite where plasma weapons are MANUALLY vented

I believe you could manually vent the Plasma Repeater in Halo Reach, but that never really got much use at all honestly, awful weapon.

Only on select weapons though as only the particle rifle you get from Javik and the Lancer rifle in the Citadel DLC had this. MEA on the other hand could do it with any weapon so long as you had the augmentation. I know that for a fact as I've done it as I've used it on a mattock befoer on that game as I remember once doing that and adding a burst/autofire mod as well and converting it essentially into a Cerberus Harrier type weapon. Made for a pretty decent gun tbh especiall yafter equippin gthings like Inciendiary or Cryo ammo to it as well. Kett don' tsurvive long against me with that type of weapon at my disposal.

I believe it was said even in the trilogy tha tguns tha thad the cooling tech did less daqmage anyway which was why t egalax yswitched to therma lclips as I believ eShp and Conrad discuss this in ME3. Personally I don' tmin dthe lesser damage as long as I have one weapon I can fire so I do generally have at least one weapon equipped with a heat sink rather than thermal clips.

Surpris esurprise thoug hbecaus elas ttime I checked this was a game or at leas tit looked like on elast time I played it.

You do understand that this attitude is exactly what puts a lot of ME1 fans off, though.