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Post by trinity0 on May 26, 2022 9:15:27 GMT
I recently read some previews of the Lord of the Rings TV Show and I get the impression that the producers and writers didn't understand the Lord of the Rings universe at all. The story and the characters áre really terrible It's not just LOTR, almost every single recent adaptation of long established properties has this.
I suspect that the writers/producers have original IPs/stories in their minds but they are incapable of selling those stories/IPs to the studios nor public, so they parasitize existing IPs in order to sell their writing/directing potential in order to get their very own IP/story.
It's why established characters act out of character, it's why themes are completely backwards and contradictory, it's why the plot doesn't make sense when compared to the course of events in the established universe.
They want to create the next GOT or Star Trek or Breaking Bad or Walking Dead and the established franchises are simply a means to an end.
But what was the reason GOT or Star Trek or Breaking Bad or Walking Dead were that succesfull. It was something new. The writers tried something new and it was good. But today they are afraid to fail and they produce the same crap in different colors all over again
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Post by General Mahad on May 26, 2022 14:49:35 GMT
Think about it, those works were not created because they were get rich quick schemes or used as stepping stone. No, those IPs were passion projects that blew up because of competent writing/directing and adherence to source material (if there is any).
The current generation of writers/producers don’t care about any of that stuff but still want their own legacy works. Hence, the butchering of established IPs.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 26, 2022 17:52:17 GMT
Think about it, those works were not created because they were get rich quick schemes or used as stepping stone. No, those IPs were passion projects that blew up because of competent writing/directing and adherence to source material (if there is any). The current generation of writers/producers don’t care about any of that stuff but still want their own legacy works. Hence, the butchering of established IPs. So the chances of a ME TV show going down the same path is highly likely.
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Post by General Mahad on May 26, 2022 21:30:27 GMT
Think about it, those works were not created because they were get rich quick schemes or used as stepping stone. No, those IPs were passion projects that blew up because of competent writing/directing and adherence to source material (if there is any). The current generation of writers/producers don’t care about any of that stuff but still want their own legacy works. Hence, the butchering of established IPs. So the chances of a ME TV show going down the same path is highly likely. Most likely than not, yes. Unless you get the crew from The Expanse or The Witcher to handle the adaptation. The former is great for space sci-if world building and the latter is okay with following the lore.
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Post by mannyray on Jun 1, 2022 1:01:34 GMT
I see the usual flagellation and histronics. I can't wait for a Mass Effect show. In another post I thought it would provide a great opportunity to explore the themes of Babylon 5 from another angle without just remaking the latter. I hope they make Shepard a black gay man and there's tons of lurid sex scenes. Some people may need the police to bring a social worker over to their homes after that...
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 1, 2022 18:21:21 GMT
I see the usual flagellation and histronics. I can't wait for a Mass Effect show. In another post I thought it would provide a great opportunity to explore the themes of Babylon 5 from another angle without just remaking the latter. I hope they make Shepard a black gay man and there's tons of lurid sex scenes. Some people may need the police to bring a social worker over to their homes after that... Why would they make M!Shep a black, gay man when they can make F!Shep a black, gay woman? It makes no sense since their (Western Entertainment) MO is replacing ginger characters with LGBT PoCs.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 1, 2022 23:31:33 GMT
I see the usual flagellation and histronics. I can't wait for a Mass Effect show. In another post I thought it would provide a great opportunity to explore the themes of Babylon 5 from another angle without just remaking the latter. I hope they make Shepard a black gay man and there's tons of lurid sex scenes. Some people may need the police to bring a social worker over to their homes after that... Why would they make M!Shep a black, gay man when they can make F!Shep a black, gay woman? It makes no sense since their (Western Entertainment) MO is replacing ginger characters with LGBT PoCs. Shep is going to be a gender fluid, non-binary furry. It's all anyone wants.
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Post by scifiguy53425 on Jun 1, 2022 23:35:04 GMT
Why would they make M!Shep a black, gay man when they can make F!Shep a black, gay woman? It makes no sense since their (Western Entertainment) MO is replacing ginger characters with LGBT PoCs. Is this meant to be a joke?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 1, 2022 23:41:19 GMT
I see the usual flagellation and histronics. I can't wait for a Mass Effect show. In another post I thought it would provide a great opportunity to explore the themes of Babylon 5 from another angle without just remaking the latter. I hope they make Shepard a black gay man and there's tons of lurid sex scenes. Some people may need the police to bring a social worker over to their homes after that... I think this went over the heads of others. It was the police/social worker comment that gave it away.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 2, 2022 0:35:10 GMT
Why would they make M!Shep a black, gay man when they can make F!Shep a black, gay woman? It makes no sense since their (Western Entertainment) MO is replacing ginger characters with LGBT PoCs. Is this meant to be a joke? I wish it was. But that’s generally how Hollywood/Wedtern Media in general treats ginger characters as of late; hell they even replace them with non-ginger white people or have their hair color changed like Black Widow. They really dislike the pale skin and red hair combo which F!Shep is according to the advertisement. So I see default F!Shep getting throw out if they go the route of making a female Shepard which they 100% will if they try a Mass Effect TV show. Then again, if they pull off a decent show that stays true to the lore; I would be happy to eat my words about any creative choices. But 20 bucks say that will never happen and they would create a garbage pit while using their creative choices as a defense against any criticism.
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Post by helios969 on Jun 5, 2022 8:27:37 GMT
As long as they stay true to their daddy issues core...
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 9, 2022 13:21:25 GMT
Then again, if they pull off a decent show that stays true to the lore; I would be happy to eat my words about any creative choices. But 20 bucks say that will never happen and they would create a garbage pit while using their creative choices as a defense against any criticism. They're not pulling off a decent show regardless of the race/gender/whatever of the protagonist. It's just not happening.
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Post by General Mahad on Jun 9, 2022 14:37:07 GMT
Then again, if they pull off a decent show that stays true to the lore; I would be happy to eat my words about any creative choices. But 20 bucks say that will never happen and they would create a garbage pit while using their creative choices as a defense against any criticism. They're not pulling off a decent show regardless of the race/gender/whatever of the protagonist. It's just not happening. Touché. I would not be hung up up on the race/gender/sexuality of characters if the producers didn’t keep using it as a crutch whenever they get criticized.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jun 25, 2022 17:06:00 GMT
They're not pulling off a decent show regardless of the race/gender/whatever of the protagonist. It's just not happening. Touché. I would not be hung up up on the race/gender/sexuality of characters if the producers didn’t keep using it as a crutch whenever they get criticized. Yep. It would be our fault for disliking the show, not because it had bad writing.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 26, 2022 7:01:27 GMT
Hey, I thought this was the hype thread!
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