Not an Epeen thread

^^^ This guy fucks.

Didn't say what.

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Anyways, to be serious for a second - I am pretty good. I am better than 8/10. The 2/10 that are better than me, are so much better than me that it seems like a paradox.

However, I often play with people who are hosting and for me have a nearly unplayable lag factor. I persevere because I like to play the game when I want to play the game. I don't often "carry" this host and the lobby, but often will score 30/40k less than host for reasons described in the OP. Not my imagination, have been told this in multiple friend request messages on Origin.

I really actually don't care about the scoreboard, but I do think there are many ways it could be improved to be more indicative of team contribution. This is directly about lag though - is there a way to make P2P more like dedicated servers? I am ok with some mad Australian destroying my score, but I do want it to be more as a result of skill dominance than lol 600ms teleportation carries without end-game reward.


ETA - This is a constant point of refinement on Star Citizen. Sure, that's vaporware likely, but this is something serious MP games talk about and work on. Any of you actually have a clue what the limiting factors are? I obviously do not.

Latency cannot be overcome by space magic.

Predictive AI solves this problem, but creates another - no human body is actually playing the game anymore at that point - the AI will determine everything and the gameplay will simplify "resemble" the player's input. That's worse than what we have now.

Dedicated servers don't entirely solve the issue either. They are generally region locked, again for the insurmountable difficulty at hand - distance traveled for the flashing light on the optical cable. The speed of light is obviously too slow.

I posted this thread because it seemed funny to me, but also to field outside-the-box ideas. We need FTL fiber optics, then I can play with cricketer and dnought and DispenserOfLube and LordSirian (some for fun, some for reasons) on a level playing field and see their true brilliance (which exists for the former two) or for the latter their horseshit on full display for exactly what it is - manbaby with low skill floor, and mad cheater.

There can be no justice in this universe without latency free MP gaming.

Some of that is manageable.

Targeting your enemy gets seriously distorted with 300ms+, while your RHA is actually not RHA because the game considers you a meter out in the open. Love the death jump when I warp meters from my client location where I'm plugging away to my host grave where I look like an idiot bleeding in the open.

Sadly, the rush of the enemy is what makes the game compelling, and being able to take the fight to them when you want/need to. I don't see a way to remedy the situation with current technology.

Originally, the host was authoritative in this game, and what we as clients saw on our screen more accurately reflected what was actually going on. To fix the Vanguard glitch, and probably some other desync issues that I can no longer clearly remember, they gave some authority to the client. This was a solution, but it was not perfect obviously as we all have complaints using some of our favorite guns off host.

Beerfish - re: Crusader, stop trying to snipe headshot with it. When I started just firing at will with the clunker it became awesome even in Lagville. I still ADS most of the time, but once I have a solid shot I take it. I mostly play off host and that gun remains in my top 10 most used. Mine rightully belongs to my Geth Engineer though.

Saber, yeah the whole purpose of the gun is to sploosh heads. It has lost favor over time, since Crusader is basically a better Saber. Venom.... god damn it is sad what lag does to the gun. I still use Falcon off-host for the Venom's purpose, because hellfire that thing sucks unless you have low ping.

I think there is a solution. There are several actually, but some of them would money-gate the experience and that would suck badly. One part of it is... this already sucks thinking about it. If I wasn't sad I'd be laughing at my shithole country for not making high speed internet a utility because a lot of Americans would be gated by part of my solution - a minimum speed requirement. To play the next MP at any difficulty above Wood, you need to have 200down/20up or better.

This would disqualify my current connection, as I get about 300/11. It is the upload speeds in America that are particularly bad, and even though in gaming we are sending small packets, we are sending them constantly and upload speed does matter FFS. I get irrationally angry thinking about ISP service, so I'll turn back to the game.

This "solution" is my lowest price money gate. A lot of the world has 1000/1000, but of course Iowa and some other third world states are using satellite or DSL with speeds that would likely make them an awful host for anyone, anywhere, regardless of their personal ubernet at home.

It is not a great solution. I don't like the idea of a wealth gate at all. We need help in the fight.

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That's what I have for today. You guys are scrubs.

I play off-host still for the epeen. It has just become a demented broken form, that allows for all sorts of excuses.

If I know I carried the team, but I didn't top the board by anything less than a significant margin, I know why and I am not mad. Same goes for the lagfest where I score 2nd by 30k but revived everyone including the Vanguard host (not a jab at you!) - I know what I did, and still feel the satisfaction mostly. Also, I know that if I wanted too, I could abandon the team concept and end up soloing half the match and get that top score, but what a pyrrhic victory that.

So, the scoreboard could better indicate contribution. Points should be given to the player for any positive team action. This creates a small balance issue maybe, but we have managed worse.

My epeen is invulnerable at this point, I am a slave to my own headcanon and nothing will dissuade me otherwise. If it did, I would drop dead. But I still want to play with others more than feed my peen. If I can't show the team my peen and have them lerve it, that's when I break down.

When I break down, the team breaks down. We can't have that.