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Post by Iakus on Apr 8, 2018 20:27:45 GMT
Can you believe that I, an avowed SF fan of many decades, who was alive when this book was published, never read Larry Niven's classic "Ringworld"? Now, driven by the strategy game "Stellaris" (which I highly recommend) where you can build ringworlds, among other things, I'm reading it and finding it very enjoyable. Also, finally the concluding volume (or so I hope) of Julie E. Czerneda's 9-book Clan Chronicles has come out, with the unforgettable Sira di Sarc, intrepid Trader Jason Morgan and a plethora of characters of biologically weird non-human species. "To Guard Against The Dark" starts promising, and I have a suspicion on how it will end. We'll see. Niven's good, but his best work was when he was teaming up with Jerry Pournelle:
"The Mote in God's Eye" in particular (first contact with genuinely alien-aliens) set in Pournelle's CoDominium setting.
"Lucifer's Hammer" (Earth dealing with a comet strike)
"Legacy of Heorot" (human colony on an alien world, loosely based on Beowulf)
Edit: Wait, Pournelle's daughter wrote another Motie book? I'll have to check this out!
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Apr 8, 2018 22:58:29 GMT
Re-reading this series: Thanks to the trailer:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 16:38:48 GMT
Interesting. I read the first three or so volumes. Lost all the books in a move, haven't restarted. Currently slogging through Book 9 of Steven Erikson's Malazan series. Only reason I have left to finish is pure spite. Although I did enjoy the acknowledgement to a local cafe the author wrote at frequently. Eliza Dushku is alright; just rewatched Dollhouse recently about a month or two ago. It'd adapt well to a tv series I think.
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Post by mousestalker on Apr 9, 2018 16:49:43 GMT
Just started it. His first series (Tales From the Golden Age of Solar Clippers) is a personal fave. The latest Honor Harrington book was classic Weber. Lots of infodumps and repetition. Large numbers of missiles. Science that doesn't make much sense. But it does have treecats, so there's that.
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Post by Ieldra on Apr 12, 2018 13:54:47 GMT
Still reading the Oblivion books by Greg Keyes ('Keys' or 'Key-ez?'), but I'll be knee-deep in spidey comics soon (thanks irresponsible birthday money spending) Gregory Keyes....I am getting nostalgic. Does anyone remember the "Chosen of the Changeling" duology? Or the unforgettable "Age of Unreason" series? Or the "Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone" cycle? Gods, was that just 10 years ago when he finished that one? All fantastic books, and they're all available as e-books now.
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Post by Ieldra on Apr 12, 2018 13:57:25 GMT
Can you believe that I, an avowed SF fan of many decades, who was alive when this book was published, never read Larry Niven's classic "Ringworld"? Now, driven by the strategy game "Stellaris" (which I highly recommend) where you can build ringworlds, among other things, I'm reading it and finding it very enjoyable. Also, finally the concluding volume (or so I hope) of Julie E. Czerneda's 9-book Clan Chronicles has come out, with the unforgettable Sira di Sarc, intrepid Trader Jason Morgan and a plethora of characters of biologically weird non-human species. "To Guard Against The Dark" starts promising, and I have a suspicion on how it will end. We'll see. Niven's good, but his best work was when he was teaming up with Jerry Pournelle:
"The Mote in God's Eye" in particular (first contact with genuinely alien-aliens) set in Pournelle's CoDominium setting.
[...] Edit: Wait, Pournelle's daughter wrote another Motie book? I'll have to check this out!
Heh....that book has the unenviable distinction of being the oldest book I have that still rests unread in the back row of my shelf. I couldn't get into it when I bought it in the 80s, and I never found motivation to try again. Until now. Thanks for the reminder. The book still rests on my shelf, but I have an e-book now.
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Post by fiannawolf on Apr 12, 2018 23:21:41 GMT
Pretty interesting world building so far.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 14, 2018 1:19:18 GMT
I really enjoyed Conn Iggulden's War of the Roses series, the series doesn't pick an evil side or a good side, the Yorkists' are the side of English patriots annoyed that the Lancasters' have surrendered everything won at Agincourt, and the Lancasters' are the side of people annoyed that you'd even dare rebel against the king (who is braindead. but really nice at the same time). And also there's Scotland who would really love a slice of northern England.
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Post by fiannawolf on Apr 15, 2018 18:23:30 GMT
This book, esp after the first few chapters, has some rich world building too.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 16, 2018 4:49:06 GMT
So onto Honor of the Queen. Sadly due to recent events not sure if I will be able to continue on the series after this, after all. But I can't help it. I am demolishing this book. Despite how good On Basilisk Station was, especially the ending, this book is actually much better. It starts off with the risk of getting heavy handed, after all the very modern woman, military officer, and general bad ass HH gets sent to Grayson the land of the somewhat sexist polygamists who do not even comprehend the mere concept of a 'woman officer.' But it undermines this in two significant ways, by A. making the bad guys way worse and B. making the Manticoran delegation just as pig headed. Anyways again about half way through so...we'll just see where we go from here.
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Post by mattig89ch on Apr 16, 2018 12:00:34 GMT
I bought this a while ago, but I haven't had an interest in reading it till recently. *shrug* I had an 8 hour drive, and nothing else in my library/wish list I wanted to read. And, you know what, its not bad. Its not great, don't go thinking it is. But its not bad either. Its def a young adult book. Women bossing men around, the potential love interest getting angry that the guy she's crushing on doesn't have the words/experience to explain his feelings, teenagers being important to saving the world, ect. But I'm kinda enjoying it so far. mousestalker I actually read them all myself. But I can't say I liked them very much. Ish didn't seem to have any agency in his own life. People deciding for him what he did and didn't want to do and what was/wasn't good for him.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 17, 2018 19:56:43 GMT
Suppose it's about time I start this. I hear I'm in for 100,000 pages of Braid tugging.
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 17, 2018 20:54:27 GMT
Back at it with this author after a break.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 23:36:30 GMT
Suppose it's about time I start this. I hear I'm in for 100,000 pages of Braid tugging. And entire chapters devoted to what colour and style dress the female chars are wearing That aside it is a good series, especially the debut. I will conquer it one day.
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Post by melbella on Apr 18, 2018 1:08:06 GMT
Suppose it's about time I start this. I hear I'm in for 100,000 pages of Braid tugging. And entire chapters devoted to what colour and style dress the female chars are wearing That aside it is a good series, especially the debut. I will conquer it one day.
I've read all but the last 2, the ones that Sanderson wrote. I'm torn between wanting to just finish it off or re-starting from the beginning since I've forgotten 90% of what happened. The first 5 books move along pretty well, but then things really start to drag. It does pick up again but those middle few installments are hundreds of pages of not a lot happening.
While I want to know how it all ends, I find I don't much like most of the characters so it's hard to care about what their fate might be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:17:34 GMT
And entire chapters devoted to what colour and style dress the female chars are wearing That aside it is a good series, especially the debut. I will conquer it one day.
I've read all but the last 2, the ones that Sanderson wrote. I'm torn between wanting to just finish it off or re-starting from the beginning since I've forgotten 90% of what happened. The first 5 books move along pretty well, but then things really start to drag. It does pick up again but those middle few installments are hundreds of pages of not a lot happening.
While I want to know how it all ends, I find I don't much like most of the characters so it's hard to care about what their fate might be.
That is exactly my problem! I really detest the female char arcs because of the endless braid tugging and descriptions on dresses. Overall I only like two characters, Mat and Perrin. I don't mind Min but find the rest of the cast detestable tbh. On the flipside of that, Robert Jordan is skilled at writing epic fantasy. He knows how to build a world, if there was only less of those dress descriptions he could very well be the greatest fantasy writer in history. I too have forgotten a lot of things, so I am thinking of slogging through it all again. I quit after around book 7 or 8.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 16:12:04 GMT
I finished WoT. Can't say I like it anymore. Books 1-3 were pretty good for what they were. But by the time I got to book 9 I looked back and got sick of the circle jerk going nowhere. Book 9 finally moves things forwards a bit so I had hope only to go into the crushingly worse book 10. I didn't make it through book 10. Put it away for good. Then Jordan died... Now I happen to particularly like Brandon Sanderson and was a fan of his before he took up WoT. He actually drew me back to the series. I read the last WoT books he wrote fairly quickly and enjoyed them for what they were. I couldn't get back into the world though. I finished the series more out of spite than curiosity. (Much as I am on my way to finishing Erikson's Malazan books.) Before I moved and did a big book purge (6/7 boxes are gone. ) my girlfriend saw my copy of Eye of the World and got this look in her eye like she wanted to burn it. "You're not reading that are you!?" was the rough comment she made. She used to work in a bookstore, everyone ranted to her about how great they were, she couldn't make it through Eye of the World and now has a special hate-on for the series. It's worth starting to see if you like it, and for my part I did for while. I almost can say I kept liking it after I had stopped realizing what I had liked. But it hit a point. Don't feel too bad if you don't make it through...
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 18, 2018 16:13:15 GMT
Finished Clans of the Alphane moon by Philip K. Dick. Loved it. Now continuing to Confessions of a Crap artist
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 18, 2018 21:16:21 GMT
Suppose it's about time I start this. I hear I'm in for 100,000 pages of Braid tugging. And entire chapters devoted to what colour and style dress the female chars are wearing That aside it is a good series, especially the debut. I will conquer it one day. I’ve just been told that the female characters in this are all terrible.
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Post by dazk on Apr 19, 2018 0:27:03 GMT
Finished Clans of the Alphane moon by Philip K. Dick. Loved it. Now continuing to Confessions of a Crap artist Phillip K Dick is one of the weirdest writers I have ever encountered!!!!! I haven't seen "Clans of Alphane" but I have read six of his other novels and whilst I'd say I like them I am not sure I understood any of them, they are just really weird !!!!!
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Post by melbella on Apr 19, 2018 1:52:42 GMT
And entire chapters devoted to what colour and style dress the female chars are wearing That aside it is a good series, especially the debut. I will conquer it one day. I’ve just been told that the female characters in this are all terrible.
Terrible as in poorly written or terrible as in unlikeable? I find most of them to be the latter. I've never been a fan of bossy know-it-alls and most of the women in the series act just like that. Not that the men are much better, since they put up with it for some reason.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 19, 2018 4:37:15 GMT
Finished Clans of the Alphane moon by Philip K. Dick. Loved it. Now continuing to Confessions of a Crap artist Phillip K Dick is one of the weirdest writers I have ever encountered!!!!! I haven't seen "Clans of Alphane" but I have read six of his other novels and whilst I'd say I like them I am not sure I understood any of them, they are just really weird !!!!! To be honest, this was already the second time I'm reading these, makes really a difference. First time is almost always "wtf.. wtf.. WHAT? Okay, now I kinda understand" until comes another "wtf!?" - He definately has his own unique style, and always having women without top on going around in the books Yes, they are weird and thought-provoking plus they are sci-fi where the future isnt usually much explained, leaving much for the imagination.
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