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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 15:31:00 GMT
Excuse me guys, I'm sorry to interrupt. But is this the official "complain about the nazi mods on the BSN" thread? because if it is then YEAH I want to give my input. Well, I think we'd justifiably stop short of having an official one... but I think it's safe to say that people here understand the need to vent, especially considering the consequences of doing so on TBF/BSN.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 6, 2016 18:39:18 GMT
Regarding mods from BNS prime coming here They need to keep their biobots out of here. Am I the only one that feels like NSA kind of moves should not be the province of a 3rd party moderating group that is basically pulling Terminator moves for the forum apocalypse? Screw you biomods.
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Post by Babar Guy on Aug 6, 2016 18:52:02 GMT
mods from BNS prime coming here EDIT: Though maybe the love between BioMod02 and I can truly blossom if the power dynamic is different
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Post by Carcharoth on Aug 6, 2016 18:59:40 GMT
Regarding mods from BNS prime coming here Been wondering about this. If Biobots or devs show up here, do they get "foreign dignitary" protection or will they be treated like everyone else?
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Aug 6, 2016 19:14:24 GMT
If they do come over here, I will certainly be sending them dick pics nonstop.
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Post by Babar Guy on Aug 6, 2016 19:24:02 GMT
Regarding mods from BNS prime coming here Been wondering about this. If Biobots or devs show up here, do they get "foreign dignitary" protection or will they be treated like everyone else? There are already devs among us, and last I checked they're just like everybody else and are mingling with the rest of us just fine. No reason to make a big fuss over it.
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Post by mousestalker on Aug 6, 2016 19:33:31 GMT
Been wondering about this. If Biobots or devs show up here, do they get "foreign dignitary" protection or will they be treated like everyone else? There are already devs among us, and last I checked they're just like everybody else and are mingling with the rest of us just fine. No reason to make a big fuss over it. That's just what they want you to think. One minutes it's all beer and skittles and the next minute: #theyrehere
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Post by Carcharoth on Aug 6, 2016 19:34:45 GMT
Been wondering about this. If Biobots or devs show up here, do they get "foreign dignitary" protection or will they be treated like everyone else? There are already devs among us, and last I checked they're just like everybody else and are mingling with the rest of us just fine. No reason to make a big fuss over it. That's fine. I only care that people are treated as equals.
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Post by vroomvroom on Aug 6, 2016 19:59:22 GMT
One thing to keep in mind is that just because the Bioware forums is closing down, doesn't mean that the developers support it and even if some do, I'm certain that not all of them do (DragonRacer said that three of them spent a long time trying to figure out how to get rid of her unjust permaban). I normally don't condone telling people how they should feel, but I don't think it would be right to hold a whole group responsible just for the beliefs or actions of a few.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 6, 2016 22:23:32 GMT
I'm not against any Bioware dev's or employees that come here to mingle with the rest of us, not at all. I'm talking MODS. IF the mods are coming over here as insinuated up thread that's total BS to me. What we do here is private-ish IMO. It's not The Bioware Forums just we who were exiled and hopefully new blood in the upcoming years from fans that start buying the old games or whatever.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 22:34:34 GMT
Regarding mods from BNS prime coming here Been wondering about this. If Biobots or devs show up here, do they get "foreign dignitary" protection or will they be treated like everyone else? Pretty sure that they'd be treated as anyone else, in theory. In practice, I'd probably just never mention it (if I had been a numbered mod.)
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 6, 2016 22:36:35 GMT
One thing to keep in mind is that just because the Bioware forums is closing down, doesn't mean that the developers support it and even if some do, I'm certain that not all of them do (DragonRacer said that three of them spent a long time trying to figure out how to get rid of her unjust permaban). I normally don't condone telling people how they should feel, but I don't think it would be right to hold a whole group responsible just for the beliefs or actions of a few. Nuremberg logic is in disagreement with that.
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Post by vroomvroom on Aug 6, 2016 22:38:39 GMT
One thing to keep in mind is that just because the Bioware forums is closing down, doesn't mean that the developers support it and even if some do, I'm certain that not all of them do (DragonRacer said that three of them spent a long time trying to figure out how to get rid of her unjust permaban). I normally don't condone telling people how they should feel, but I don't think it would be right to hold a whole group responsible just for the beliefs or actions of a few. Nuremberg logic is in disagreement with that. Doesn't mean that you or anyone else has to be tho.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 6, 2016 22:41:57 GMT
Nuremberg logic is in disagreement with that. Doesn't mean that you or anyone else has to be tho. ._. But I want to be, I am actually in the role of the ALLIES in this. We get to set the terms here. And I say fuck em. If they get swarmed with people who dislike them because of their own actions, I say let the masses lynch em. They were jackasses to me more then once and Bioware Mod Bot 2 or whomever can suck my fatty before I ever bother to treat that dickbag with any ounce of humanity or respect. That said-I do find this conversation amusing that is happening between me and you Vroom.
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Post by vroomvroom on Aug 6, 2016 22:54:26 GMT
Doesn't mean that you or anyone else has to be tho. ._. But I want to be, I am actually in the role of the ALLIES in this. We get to set the terms here. And I say fuck em. If they get swarmed with people who dislike them because of their own actions, I say let the masses lynch em. They were jackasses to me more then once and Bioware Mod Bot 2 or whomever can suck my fatty before I ever bother to treat that dickbag with any ounce of humanity or respect. That said-I do find this conversation amusing that is happening between me and you Vroom. There's being an adult and being petty about things; I'd rather not be petty because that's going to get me nothing other than maybe a few seconds of satisfaction followed by an even longer time of disappointment in myself. I'm angry about the forums too, so let me get off my high horse and kick it for a minute before stating that blaming a whole group of people for the actions of one or a select few is a very wrong thing to do (as history has made abundantly clear, but let's not get into that). I'm actually fine with the botmods joining here too, as long as they separate their "work" from their activity here and don't use any information learned here to go back and action users for posts on the BSN and it isn't as if the botmods decided to shut down BSN themselves; they are probably as mad about it as us (if not more so) because they are losing their jobs. Forums are all about having a clean slate and becoming friends with total strangers or having a calm exchange of ideas. So even though I am mad at them on BSN, it's whatever should they join here. I'd like to point out that my earlier post wasn't even addressing the mods, but rather the Bioware developers themselves. I'm not at all amused, to be honest.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 6, 2016 22:59:43 GMT
I have nothing invested in BSN these days, its closing means little to me. The fact I might have to unknowingly deal with those scumbags is a another matter, it angers me and I will be blunt about that. So yes I am in favor them being a non factor, especially given they are going nutso over there at the moment. I'd rather not have to deal with the moderation staff, the Devs can do as they like, Mods are another matter.
So yeah, my opinion on that isn't changing, they were pricks to me more then once and got away with it because good luck trying to report a mod for anything hah. And no I am amused because you are telling me not judge based on past incrustations that may or may not be their own actions. Its ironic to me.
And I am a sucker for finding irony humorous.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 6, 2016 22:59:50 GMT
How would we know if a mod from the original BSN came over here to begin with?
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Post by vroomvroom on Aug 6, 2016 23:09:39 GMT
How would we know if a mod from the original BSN came over here to begin with? If they said so, lmao.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 23:16:52 GMT
After watching a couple of groups get the going over and seeing all the moderation action taken as a result (I've nearly tripled my warning total) I'm certainly in a position to be pretty upset. And obviously, I am venting.
And it makes a certain amount of sense that this is the direction the thread has taken, as many people want to vent and it is obviously only really possible in here without severe consequences.
But let us do separate the way we feel about how the closure is being handled from how we would treat people.
I honestly don't think that as far as the numbered moderators go, that it can ever possibly be an issue. Even assuming someone would be inclined to speak about it, I have little doubt their contracts prevent it. It is a highly flawed system, and perpetuating itself would require a layer of secrecy that precludes moderators identifying themselves. There really wouldn't be any other way that system can work.
So it's almost certainly out of our hands, regardless.
They won't be unemployed, however. Think of them as "temps," this office is closing, but they were always going to get moved on after a while, anyway. They aren't BioWare employees, they are subcontractors.
And the actual BioWare employees likely had as much say in the decision as most employees typically do in management decisions (little if any) and the reviews discussed in the "Concerning Our Forums" thread essentially confirmed that they had none.
So nobody really has any business directing ire towards anyone without knowing their position - which in many cases they can't (or won't) share, and like anyone else, have the expectation of privacy on this board regarding anything they choose to be private about.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 23:19:22 GMT
That having been said, I'm still pissed off at the mods, I'm just not interested in making their lives difficult over it, because I don't see the point.
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Post by House Targaryen on Aug 6, 2016 23:33:43 GMT
Regarding mods from BNS prime coming here They need to keep their biobots out of here. Am I the only one that feels like NSA kind of moves should not be the province of a 3rd party moderating group that is basically pulling Terminator moves for the forum apocalypse? Screw you biomods. Ban the mods, see how they like it.
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Post by mousestalker on Aug 7, 2016 0:03:30 GMT
All kidding aside, I really do not see the need to be vindictive here, much less go full Godwin.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 7, 2016 0:20:01 GMT
TheHound, you made me lulz, but I'm not into revenge about this. UNLESS WE FIND OUT THEY ARE REPORTING US OVER THERE..then we can burn the building down together!
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 7, 2016 0:30:58 GMT
much less go full Godwin.
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Post by masterwarderz on Aug 7, 2016 0:54:29 GMT
much less go full Godwin. Gungans make me believe in Death Camps as a concept
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