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Post by Noxluxe on Jan 2, 2020 21:42:06 GMT
I want the alternate ending to TROS where Rey has to kill the first several people she meets because she keeps on telling them she's a Palpetine. I want the alternate ending where she remains dead, and the scene cuts from Kylo cradling her corpse to his long, long court martial war crimes tribunal headed by the guy he tortured and mind-raped two movies ago. But of course, like both uncle and granddaddy, he chickened out. Sticking around to face the consequences of your actions has never really been a Skywalker thing.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 2, 2020 22:05:45 GMT
I want the alternate ending to TROS where Rey has to kill the first several people she meets because she keeps on telling them she's a Palpetine. I want the alternate ending where she remains dead, and the scene cuts from Kylo cradling her corpse to his long, long court martial headed by the guy he tortured and mind-raped two movies ago. But of course, like both uncle and granddaddy, he chickened out. Sticking around to face the consequences of your actions has never really been a Skywalker thing. Court martial huh? Was he ever in the New Republic military or the Resistance? I think the best they can do is a War Crimes tribunal. But you do raise an interesting point. Maybe THAT is why he was so damn happy at the end of Rise.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 2, 2020 22:24:42 GMT
And to all of these arguments, all of this bickering back and forth not just on this forum but on the Web at large....I say "why can't we just enjoy the movies?" "Why do people have to fight over this BS and create divides among each other all over something that is purely meant as entertainment? Is it really that important? I mean, I've been a fan of star wars since I was 3 years old, I grew up with the OT (to me, they are the best of the franchise) though I will say that in terms of fleshing out the 'whole story' Ep. 1-3 do a good job of giving us the history and backstory of a character whom we had all previously just known as a guy in a black suit. He looked like the villain, he acted like the villain, we knew that we weren't supposed to cheer for him....But we never knew his history, his choices, his life experiences that brought him to that point. Until the Prequels. Then we understood how and why he acted the way he did. But with the addition of the prequels to the OT, in my mind that completed the now heralded "Skywalker Saga". It was a story that essentially at its core told of the rise, fall and redemption of one Anakin Skywalker and his son's efforts to carry the family burden, then bring about that redemption."
Episodes 7-9 while I have enjoyed all of them thus far ( to date I have not yet seen TROS but I am going to see it tomorrow), they are not, in my eyes needed to 'complete the story'. The whole story-- the arc of the characters in the Skywalker family, had been told in 1-6. 7-9 only came about because Disney wanted to do them as part of their acquisition of LFL and all its properties. Now they have only raised more questions than they have answered- and with two different Directors, different writers etc there is an obvious disconnect that Abrams has obviously tried to rectify by retconning a lot of what Johnson did (not to say that what Johnson did was bad-- I happen to enjoy TLJ) but it was obviously different and quite a deviation from the path the Abrams plotted with TFA; only to have Abrams return for 9 and almost do a course correction to re-steer the course of the Trilogy back towards what he had previously laid out in TFA. I'm not saying that is good or bad, only that different people have different ideas. Yet if this was Abrams plan the whole time-- why didn't he direct TLJ? Why allow him to do TFA, skip Ep 8 and then bring him back for Ep 9? I don't know the reasons for his absence from Ep 8, but there is an obvious difference in the path of the story and even the style of direction if you now look at all three movies as a whole.
I think it would have been better if Abrams stayed on to direct all three. It would have made for a more cohesive story and we would have been able to see all of his ideas woven throughout. I will say, however, that this new trilogy, as much as I have enjoyed it for the story it tells....I do strongly feel that it wasn't really necessary, needed or important to complete the 'Skywalker Saga" that Lucas told in 1-6. It is really only a cash-grab for Disney. And as a few people have already pointed out, it raises more questions than it answers (ie exactly HOW did the Emperor return from what had been previously believed to be such a certain death? How, when, where did he find time or opportunity to have a family that would make Rey his granddaughter? How is Janna tied to Lando......I have read she is his daughter- but again how and when was that ever explained based on what we know of the character of Lando?
I don't mind that these new ideas and issues have come up or have been written in...As long as they can explain them adequately in a way that makes logical sense. For example, based on what I know of Chuck Windig's AFTERMATH Trilogy, and of Battlefront II, I know that the Emperor had contingency plans surrounding his death (like Operation Cinder) and that he spent a considerable time exploring the Unknown Regions. But none of that really explains the sudden insertion of a family whom Rey is conveniently a descendent of. (maybe I am missing something? Maybe a few things? *shrugs*) Yet, I am willing to let go of my need for everything to have a certain order within this galaxy that I have loved since childhood, forego all of my questions and attempts to try and make sense of things or to have things make sense....and simply enjoy the movies and the story they tell.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jan 2, 2020 22:25:28 GMT
Court martial huh? Was he ever in the New Republic military or the Resistance? I think the best they can do is a War Crimes tribunal. But you do raise an interesting point. Maybe THAT is why he was so damn happy at the end of Rise. Huh, you're right. I guess I always thought of him as having started out on the New Republic/Resistance/Rebellion payroll by association as Luke's apprentice and Leia's and Han's son. And to all of these arguments, all of this bickering back and forth....I say "why can't we just enjoy the movies?" "Why do people have to fight over this BS and create divides among each other all over something that is purely meant as entertainment? Is it really that important? I mean, I've been a fan of star wars since I was 3 years old, I grew up with the OT (to me, they are the best of the franchise though I will say that in terms of fleshing out the 'whole story' Ep. 1-3 do a good job of giving us the history and back story of a character whom we had all previously just known as a guy in a black suit. He looked like the villain, he acted like the villain, we knew that we weren't supposed to cheer for him....But we never knew his history, his choices, his life experiences that brought him to that point. Until the Prequels. Then we understood how and why he acted the way he did. But with the addition of the prequels to the OT, in my mind that completed the now heralded "Skywalker Saga". It was a story that essentially at its core told of the rise, fall and redemption of one Anakin Skywalker and his son's efforts to carry the family burden, then bring about that redemption." Episodes 7-9 while I have enjoyed all of them thus far (I have not to date seen TROS but I am going to see it tomorrow), they are not in my eyes needed to 'complete the story'. The whole story-- the arc of the characters in the Skywalker family, had been told in 1-6. 7-9 only came about because Disney wanted to do them as part of their acquisition of LFL and all its properties. I mostly agree. Getting the trilogies over a decade apart makes it easier to compartmentalize each as their own thing, so one doesn't really drag the other down and they can all theoretically be enjoyed on their own merits. Which in all their cases should mean giving credit where it's due and not decrying any of them as outright trash, because that's a major misinterpretation of what an objectively bad movie is. They are technically part of the same narrative though, and in that sense the new trilogy does kick the original one's themes and integral story in the balls. Return of the Jedi's emotional payoff in particular is completely undermined by the sequels. Maybe Disney didn't realize that so many people would care so deeply about that, but they definitely knew that's what they were doing going into the first and especially second film.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 3, 2020 0:06:44 GMT
If he survived all he had to say was "That was Kylo Ren, i'm Ben Skywalker and i killed him to avenge my daddy and mommy!"
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Post by Iakus on Jan 3, 2020 0:26:30 GMT
I want the alternate ending to TROS where Rey has to kill the first several people she meets because she keeps on telling them she's a Palpetine. I want the alternate ending where she remains dead, and the scene cuts from Kylo cradling her corpse to his long, long court martial war tribunal headed by the guy he tortured and mind-raped two movies ago. But of course, like both uncle and granddaddy, he chickened out. Sticking around to face the consequences of your actions has never really been a Skywalker thing. I want the alternate ending where the whole trilogy was a Force vision Luke was having while he was demonstrating standing on his head while levitating rocks to his students. "Note to self: don't try to murder my nephew in his sleep for having a bad dream"
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Post by Noxluxe on Jan 3, 2020 1:26:57 GMT
I want the alternate ending where the whole trilogy was a Force vision Luke was having while he was demonstrating standing on his head while levitating rocks to his students. "Note to self: don't try to murder my nephew in his sleep for having a bad dream" You mean while standing on top of his upside-down students making them levitate rocks, no demonstrations whatsoever. I'd bet young Jedi Master Luke was insecure enough that he just tried to copy-paste Yoda's lessons, and it backfired spectacularly. And then Leia had to smooth it over with indignant parents while Han cracked jokes and was no help at all.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 3, 2020 2:26:07 GMT
All this garbage........This (links below) is what I'm talking about. This is the kinda stuff that ruins the franchise as a whole, ruins movies in general. Why can't we just accept, watch and enjoy these or any other movies for their entertainment value and leave it at that? (For reference) boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/fans-threaten-j-j-abrams-and-report-mental-breakdowns-over-kylo-rens-ending-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/new-analysis-claims-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-inflated-rotten-tomatoes-verified-audience-score-with-fake-reviews/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/former-disney-ceo-michael-eisner-throws-shade-at-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculationboundingintocomics.com/2019/12/19/fans-react-to-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-after-exiting-theater-utter-bullshit/I love STAR WARS as much as anybody; the OT were my favourite movies to watch as a kid growing up, and from a very early age I could recite the lines from the movies by memory and would say them word for word, before they happened on-screen. To this day, my parents refuse to watch it with me or even be anywhere near the room I am watching it in, because they know that I have memorized every line and scene. As a kid, I played with the toys( X-Wing,TIE Fighter and Luke's X-34 Landspeeder) and action figures, I had posters, T-shirts and a few 24oz plastic cups. As previously stated I love all the movies, even VII and VIII (though they are not the star wars I remember, know or love when I think of or refer to STAR WARS-- as also previously stated)....But the links above are what I'm talking about when I talk about arguing (or intending to incite arguments) among people and particularly those who are passionate fans as I am...as we all are. STAR WARS means a lot of things for so many reasons to a great many people all over the world. It has lasted 42 years. Forty-two years. That has to be among the longest lasting, longest running titles of any movie. And think about it, STAR WARS is responsible for creating the 'movie franchise' (ie the marvel movies) that we often take for granted in today's market. I know, I know, Marvel (as in Marvel Comics) was around since 1961 under the name Marvel Comics. Long before Lucas created Lucasfilm or started writing STAR WARS....But what I am referring to is the now modern franchise that are the Marvel Movies and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That might not exist had it not been for the forethought of George Lucas to keep the licensing and Merchandising rights and have the insight to make a go of things like t-shirts, toys, posters etc. Even Matel (who later jumped on this idea to create HE-Man) was greatly suffering and nearly defunct until George Lucas' success with STARS Merchandising. It was then in 1981 that they created HE-MAN (which started as a comic and later expanded to a toy line)....But HE-Man saved Matel.....Thanks to Lucas and STAR WARS. In my mind, much of the modern movie industry (for a great many reasons) owes its success to the franchise that George Lucas created. I don't entirely agree with Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm (or Lucas' choice to sell it to them, given how they have handled the property as a whole and where they have taken it from where it was).....But it was his company, not mine. It was his choice, not mine. And in the end, it's about business, and ultimately about money. He sold it for 4.06 billion dollars. And in this day and age where ultimately everything, everything comes down to the almighty buck, who's to blame him? He'd wanted to retire anyway. Now he just retired....very wealthy, even more than he already was. A well-earned retirement for giving half your life to a career you loved in the demanding world of movie-making. I like Disney as company; there are a lot worse companies out there. But that's not saying that I agree with what they have done with the star wars property, I do and I don't. I could say the same about EA and its handling of their license. Love Fallen Order, but I've heard that BF 2 is horrible...though from what I have seen on youtube, I think I might like it. then again, I might not. At this point I'm not willing to spend the money to find out. I do understand and agree with the riotous contention over lootboxing etc, but that's not what I'm referring to. This is an issue for another time, another thread. My point is...Disney has done what Disney has done, and now with their acquisition of FOX, they are the undisputedly most powerful entertainment company in the world. I don't agree with what they have done with all these properties, all this accumulated power....But I can at least sit back as a consumer, and try to find enjoyment in the materials and products they produce. And if they or any other company puts out a tv show, movie, book or anything else that I don't think I would enjoy.....then I don't have to watch it or pay it any attention. But I won't trash the people who created it or argue with other people about the merits for its existence. That is what STAR WARS has been turned into, and though it's not entirely the fault of the consumers/fans or the like, it is nonetheless, unfortunate.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 3, 2020 4:47:29 GMT
I want the alternate ending where the whole trilogy was a Force vision Luke was having while he was demonstrating standing on his head while levitating rocks to his students. "Note to self: don't try to murder my nephew in his sleep for having a bad dream" You mean while standing on top of his upside-down students making them levitate rocks, no demonstrations whatsoever. I'd bet young Jedi Master Luke was insecure enough that he just tried to copy-paste Yoda's lessons, and it backfired spectacularly. And then Leia had to smooth it over with indignant parents while Han cracked jokes and was no help at all. Still better than we ended up getting...
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Post by colfoley on Jan 3, 2020 5:23:45 GMT
All this garbage........This (links below) is what I'm talking about. This is the kinda stuff that ruins the franchise as a whole, ruins movies in general. Why can't we just accept, watch and enjoy these or any other movies for their entertainment value and leave it at that? (For reference) boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/fans-threaten-j-j-abrams-and-report-mental-breakdowns-over-kylo-rens-ending-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/new-analysis-claims-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-inflated-rotten-tomatoes-verified-audience-score-with-fake-reviews/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/former-disney-ceo-michael-eisner-throws-shade-at-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculationboundingintocomics.com/2019/12/19/fans-react-to-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-after-exiting-theater-utter-bullshit/I love STAR WARS as much as anybody; the OT were my favourite movies to watch as a kid growing up, and from a very early age I could recite the lines from the movies by memory and would say them word for word, before they happened on-screen. To this day, my parents refuse to watch it with me or even be anywhere near the room I am watching it in, because they know that I have memorized every line and scene. As a kid, I played with the toys( X-Wing,TIE Fighter and Luke's X-34 Landspeeder) and action figures, I had posters, T-shirts and a few 24oz plastic cups. As previously stated I love all the movies, even VII and VIII (though they are not the star wars I remember, know or love when I think of or refer to STAR WARS-- as also previously stated)....But the links above are what I'm talking about when I talk about arguing (or intending to incite arguments) among people and particularly those who are passionate fans as I am...as we all are. STAR WARS means a lot of things for so many reasons to a great many people all over the world. It has lasted 42 years. Forty-two years. That has to be among the longest lasting, longest running titles of any movie. And think about it, STAR WARS is responsible for creating the 'movie franchise' (ie the marvel movies) that we often take for granted in today's market. I know, I know, Marvel (as in Marvel Comics) was around since 1961 under the name Marvel Comics. Long before Lucas created Lucasfilm or started writing STAR WARS....But what I am referring to is the now modern franchise that are the Marvel Movies and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That might not exist had it not been for the forethought of George Lucas to keep the licensing and Merchandising rights and have the insight to make a go of things like t-shirts, toys, posters etc. Even Matel (who later jumped on this idea to create HE-Man) was greatly suffering and nearly defunct until George Lucas' success with STARS Merchandising. It was then in 1981 that they created HE-MAN (which started as a comic and later expanded to a toy line)....But HE-Man saved Matel.....Thanks to Lucas and STAR WARS. In my mind, much of the modern movie industry (for a great many reasons) owes its success to the franchise that George Lucas created. I don't entirely agree with Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm (or Lucas' choice to sell it to them, given how they have handled the property as a whole and where they have taken it from where it was).....But it was his company, not mine. It was his choice, not mine. And in the end, it's about business, and ultimately about money. He sold it for 4.06 billion dollars. And in this day and age where ultimately everything, everything comes down to the almighty buck, who's to blame him? He'd wanted to retire anyway. Now he just retired....very wealthy, even more than he already was. A well-earned retirement for giving half your life to a career you loved in the demanding world of movie-making. I like Disney as company; there are a lot worse companies out there. But that's not saying that I agree with what they have done with the star wars property, I do and I don't. I could say the same about EA and its handling of their license. Love Fallen Order, but I've heard that BF 2 is horrible...though from what I have seen on youtube, I think I might like it. then again, I might not. At this point I'm not willing to spend the money to find out. I do understand and agree with the riotous contention over lootboxing etc, but that's not what I'm referring to. This is an issue for another time, another thread. My point is...Disney has done what Disney has done, and now with their acquisition of FOX, they are the undisputedly most powerful entertainment company in the world. I don't agree with what they have done with all these properties, all this accumulated power....But I can at least sit back as a consumer, and try to find enjoyment in the materials and products they produce. And if they or any other company puts out a tv show, movie, book or anything else that I don't think I would enjoy.....then I don't have to watch it or pay it any attention. But I won't trash the people who created it or argue with other people about the merits for its existence. That is what STAR WARS has been turned into, and though it's not entirely the fault of the consumers/fans or the like, it is nonetheless, unfortunate. hey good healhy debate is fun. As long as it is good...and healthy. No real insults or anything and everyone stays to clear concise arguments...if it doesen't or it gets repititious I try and leave.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 3, 2020 13:43:32 GMT
All this garbage........This (links below) is what I'm talking about. This is the kinda stuff that ruins the franchise as a whole, ruins movies in general. Why can't we just accept, watch and enjoy these or any other movies for their entertainment value and leave it at that? (For reference) boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/fans-threaten-j-j-abrams-and-report-mental-breakdowns-over-kylo-rens-ending-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/new-analysis-claims-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-inflated-rotten-tomatoes-verified-audience-score-with-fake-reviews/boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/02/former-disney-ceo-michael-eisner-throws-shade-at-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculationboundingintocomics.com/2019/12/19/fans-react-to-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-after-exiting-theater-utter-bullshit/I love STAR WARS as much as anybody; the OT were my favourite movies to watch as a kid growing up, and from a very early age I could recite the lines from the movies by memory and would say them word for word, before they happened on-screen. To this day, my parents refuse to watch it with me or even be anywhere near the room I am watching it in, because they know that I have memorized every line and scene. As a kid, I played with the toys( X-Wing,TIE Fighter and Luke's X-34 Landspeeder) and action figures, I had posters, T-shirts and a few 24oz plastic cups. As previously stated I love all the movies, even VII and VIII (though they are not the star wars I remember, know or love when I think of or refer to STAR WARS-- as also previously stated)....But the links above are what I'm talking about when I talk about arguing (or intending to incite arguments) among people and particularly those who are passionate fans as I am...as we all are. STAR WARS means a lot of things for so many reasons to a great many people all over the world. It has lasted 42 years. Forty-two years. That has to be among the longest lasting, longest running titles of any movie. And think about it, STAR WARS is responsible for creating the 'movie franchise' (ie the marvel movies) that we often take for granted in today's market. I know, I know, Marvel (as in Marvel Comics) was around since 1961 under the name Marvel Comics. Long before Lucas created Lucasfilm or started writing STAR WARS....But what I am referring to is the now modern franchise that are the Marvel Movies and the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That might not exist had it not been for the forethought of George Lucas to keep the licensing and Merchandising rights and have the insight to make a go of things like t-shirts, toys, posters etc. Even Matel (who later jumped on this idea to create HE-Man) was greatly suffering and nearly defunct until George Lucas' success with STARS Merchandising. It was then in 1981 that they created HE-MAN (which started as a comic and later expanded to a toy line)....But HE-Man saved Matel.....Thanks to Lucas and STAR WARS. In my mind, much of the modern movie industry (for a great many reasons) owes its success to the franchise that George Lucas created. I don't entirely agree with Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm (or Lucas' choice to sell it to them, given how they have handled the property as a whole and where they have taken it from where it was).....But it was his company, not mine. It was his choice, not mine. And in the end, it's about business, and ultimately about money. He sold it for 4.06 billion dollars. And in this day and age where ultimately everything, everything comes down to the almighty buck, who's to blame him? He'd wanted to retire anyway. Now he just retired....very wealthy, even more than he already was. A well-earned retirement for giving half your life to a career you loved in the demanding world of movie-making. I like Disney as company; there are a lot worse companies out there. But that's not saying that I agree with what they have done with the star wars property, I do and I don't. I could say the same about EA and its handling of their license. Love Fallen Order, but I've heard that BF 2 is horrible...though from what I have seen on youtube, I think I might like it. then again, I might not. At this point I'm not willing to spend the money to find out. I do understand and agree with the riotous contention over lootboxing etc, but that's not what I'm referring to. This is an issue for another time, another thread. My point is...Disney has done what Disney has done, and now with their acquisition of FOX, they are the undisputedly most powerful entertainment company in the world. I don't agree with what they have done with all these properties, all this accumulated power....But I can at least sit back as a consumer, and try to find enjoyment in the materials and products they produce. And if they or any other company puts out a tv show, movie, book or anything else that I don't think I would enjoy.....then I don't have to watch it or pay it any attention. But I won't trash the people who created it or argue with other people about the merits for its existence. That is what STAR WARS has been turned into, and though it's not entirely the fault of the consumers/fans or the like, it is nonetheless, unfortunate. hey good healhy debate is fun. As long as it is good...and healthy. No real insults or anything and everyone stays to clear concise arguments...if it doesen't or it gets repititious I try and leave. Hey, Col. I'm not talking about here on the BSN.....I know on here everyone is good-natured and can have debates with someone over issues or differing ideas on topics without getting personal or nasty. Here on the BSN isn't what I'm talking about. It's the Web in general (and Social Media). In today's culture, Social Media gives EVERYONE a voice on everything. And everyone is the expert on everything, and they want to tell everyone how much they know and that anyone who doesn't agree with them that the Sky is Brown or that water is dry is an a-hole. Honestly....I blame Social Media (Facebook, Twitter and the like) for driving our culture towards a consumeristic, ME (no not Mass Effect- though I wish!) centered universe. By and large in today's world, everyone thinks everything is about them, and whoever doesn't agree with Person A that the grass isn't green or that the sun is not a star is wrong. I mean, just look at how people treat each other today. Listen to the radio and you'll hear "a 12 year old boy was shot and killed last night outside his home while taking out the garbage, by two 15 year old boys who did it just for fun. They wanted to see what would happen and they thought it would be fun.' (That actually happened in Toronto before Christmas). Or, take a drive and watch carefully how other people drive, how drivers cut each other off, run red lights, don't signal when changing lanes, speed excessively, drive recklessly.....Even shoot at people while driving (yes this actually happened). Or how pedestrians cross the street (heads down, eyes glued to their phones, paying no attention to the lights changing or the flow of traffic....walking ever so slowly to the other side, making cars wait. Because it's all about them.) Unfortunately, that mentality, "everything is all about me, all the time, everywhere I go" has even spilled over into our Entertainment Industry where people argue and hurt each other over movies, games, books or any other form of artistic media that is simply intended and meant to be used for entertainment purposes, or they feel so empowered by Social Media and entitled to "speak their mind" that they harass the people who created the movie, book, game or whatever it is. They threaten, they say hurtful, disrespectful things that undermines the other person whom they have taken it upon themselves to target simply because they had differing ideas than them. And articles like I posted above, and more so the people's comments-- those who felt entitled and empowered to jump on board and let everyone know what they think "down in the comments section below", especially when a simple comment by Person #1 turns into a brawl and then people start hurls insults at each other.....That is when it all breaks down and becomes something far less than what it was intended for. That in turn degrades not only those people involved, but the person or persons responsible for creating it, and their actions and behaviour lessens the impact and intended purpose of the original media. And it's unfortunate, that as I said in my post above......That STAR WARS, something so enduring and meaningful to a great many people around the world....It is has become this thing that is not what it was meant to become. That is unfortunate.
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 3, 2020 15:52:25 GMT
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Being Finn must be suffering. Fantasize about this... but gets this instead.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 3, 2020 17:42:39 GMT
Being Finn must be suffering. Fantasize about this... but gets this instead. Just look at his expresion in both photos. You can clearly tell which kiss he is enjoying and which one he was obviously dreading Top photo with Rey/Daisey Ridley..... Oh yeah, this is what I've been waiting for! Bottom photo: "Ugh.....Do I have to? Sithspit! let's just shoot this and get it over with......
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 3, 2020 18:26:52 GMT
Being Finn must be suffering. Fantasize about this... but gets this instead.
His true love
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 3, 2020 18:29:44 GMT
You mean while standing on top of his upside-down students making them levitate rocks, no demonstrations whatsoever. I'd bet young Jedi Master Luke was insecure enough that he just tried to copy-paste Yoda's lessons, and it backfired spectacularly. And then Leia had to smooth it over with indignant parents while Han cracked jokes and was no help at all. Still better than we ended up getting... "Local hero carrying beat up, angry, hermit, has been Jedi."
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 3, 2020 18:32:49 GMT
I want the alternate ending to TROS where Rey has to kill the first several people she meets because she keeps on telling them she's a Palpetine. That's "Skywalker, Rey Skywalker."
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Post by colfoley on Jan 3, 2020 18:57:00 GMT
I want the alternate ending to TROS where Rey has to kill the first several people she meets because she keeps on telling them she's a Palpetine. That "Skywalker, Rey Skywalker."
*debates linking Tom Lehrer's 'She's my girl' but decides against it for its unpleasant implications&
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Post by Obadiah on Jan 3, 2020 21:02:11 GMT
That "Skywalker, Rey Skywalker."
*debates linking Tom Lehrer's 'She's my girl' but decides against it for its unpleasant implications& Theme is always appropriate...
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 3, 2020 21:24:54 GMT
One of the times I saw RoS, at the scene where Rey kisses Kylo, there was a lady seated behind gasped "What the hell?" Guess she wasn't a Reylo shipper. Shipper and stans people, so silly. The only time I came close to being a "shipper" was Jon and Daenerys.
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Post by Obadiah on Jan 3, 2020 21:51:18 GMT
One of the times I saw RoS, at the scene where Rey kisses Kylo, there was a lady seated behind gasped "What the hell?" Guess she wasn't a Reylo shipper. Shipper and stans people, so silly. The only time I came close to being a "shipper" was Jon and Daenerys. The guy was blowing up planets with the First Order. If Kylo ever left, I'm not sure what fans expected other than a life sentence or execution. Kylo, like Vader, had no happily ever after awaiting his redemption.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 3, 2020 22:04:45 GMT
One of the times I saw RoS, at the scene where Rey kisses Kylo, there was a lady seated behind gasped "What the hell?" Guess she wasn't a Reylo shipper. Shipper and stans people, so silly. The only time I came close to being a "shipper" was Jon and Daenerys. The guy was blowing up planets with the First Order. If Kylo ever left, I'm not sure what fans expected other than a life sentence or execution. Kylo, like Vader, had no happily ever after awaiting his redemption. well its like someone said here, the Skywalkers don't tend to take responsibility for their actions. And that is traditionally part of redemption, owning up to your past misdeeds. *** An interesting explanation.
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Post by cypherj on Jan 3, 2020 22:34:09 GMT
The guy was blowing up planets with the First Order. If Kylo ever left, I'm not sure what fans expected other than a life sentence or execution. Kylo, like Vader, had no happily ever after awaiting his redemption. well its like someone said here, the Skywalkers don't tend to take responsibility for their actions. And that is traditionally part of redemption, owning up to your past misdeeds. *** An interesting explanation. That doesn't make any sense. If his body was destroyed and he's inhabiting a corpse. Whose corpse is it, and why does it look like him? They would have been better off saying it was a clone. But then again, once you bring clones into the mix, there's no finality. I saw this article today, about why there's no explanation of how he's back. www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rise-skywalker-cut-explaining-palpatine-154530234.htmlTo quote one passage. “There was so much information in the film and so many characters that we wanted to have an audience concentrate on. I think we felt we didn’t want to clutter the film up with things you didn’t need to know.” The article is about how explaining it would have gone off topic. What? How is that off topic, or something the audience didn't need to know? Guarantee it was the first question on the minds of the vast majority of movie goers before and after the film. Every day I see another article explaining something from the movie. If you have to do this much explaining after the fact, you just didn't do a good job telling your story.
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