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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 10, 2022 21:02:49 GMT
That was a bad episode. The acting for Leia's interrogation scene was Razzie Award nominee tier, and the competence level of the stormtroopers was schizophrenic. One minute they can hear a muffled transmission from 30 feet away then a moment later a room full of these guys can't even spot a scruffy grown man smuggling a child out in his sloppily worn overcoat, but i did lose my sides at the disguise part. Pic related... Trying to avoid spoilers, but imagine still taking the Razzies seriously today. XD You're being an ableist smiles. Even back then no one took the Razzies seriously, but bad acting still deserves some recognition too.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 10, 2022 22:44:10 GMT
There are ways to do that without it looking ridiculous. And didn't Yoda reveal to Obi-Wan that Annakin was Vader at the end of Revenge? Been a long time, not sure. No, that was at the Jedi temple during Order 66. But it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that Anikin is still alive (seeing as Obi Wan knows that Anikin changed his name to Darth Vader and there's a Darth Vader walking about. Couldn't be too hard to connect the dots). Obi-Wan lived in isolation on Tatooine, so pretty far separated from the events of the Empire. It makes sense he wouldn’t hear about it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 10, 2022 22:46:16 GMT
I read and watch reviews. Didn't watch the show. Seems like the show is getting worse. A stormtrooper reeling from a slap. Figures why they're so bad at shooting. 🤣 Their helmets are badly made. Can't see out of them, can't protect them from a slap. I guess their body armour is the same, that's why they always go down like clay pigeons. I think I'm going to go back on what I said about this show after EP3: this show is The Master Cheeks show levels of bad. You comparing this show to that abomination is part of why people don’t take negative reviews of shows like Halo seriously. They’re not in the same ballpark, not even in the same sport.
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Post by talyn82 on Jun 10, 2022 23:36:22 GMT
Lol, this was hilarious!
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 11, 2022 20:21:12 GMT
There are ways to do that without it looking ridiculous. And didn't Yoda reveal to Obi-Wan that Annakin was Vader at the end of Revenge? Been a long time, not sure. No, that was at the Jedi temple during Order 66. But it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that Anikin is still alive (seeing as Obi Wan knows that Anikin changed his name to Darth Vader and there's a Darth Vader walking about. Couldn't be too hard to connect the dots). No, that was at the Jedi temple during Order 66. But it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that Anikin is still alive (seeing as Obi Wan knows that Anikin changed his name to Darth Vader and there's a Darth Vader walking about. Couldn't be too hard to connect the dots). Obi-Wan lived in isolation on Tatooine, so pretty far separated from the events of the Empire. It makes sense he wouldn’t hear about it. I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 11, 2022 20:41:27 GMT
No, that was at the Jedi temple during Order 66. But it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that Anikin is still alive (seeing as Obi Wan knows that Anikin changed his name to Darth Vader and there's a Darth Vader walking about. Couldn't be too hard to connect the dots). Obi-Wan lived in isolation on Tatooine, so pretty far separated from the events of the Empire. It makes sense he wouldn’t hear about it. I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired. That force bond that the master has with their apprentice right? Or at least, that's what I think it is...
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 12, 2022 4:48:43 GMT
I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired. That force bond that the master has with their apprentice right? Or at least, that's what I think it is... Indeed. We saw this in Revenge of The Sith with Yoda's reaction to all the jedi being killed during Order 66. Mind you he trained the majority of the jedi when they were younglings except Anakin.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 12, 2022 7:08:26 GMT
No, that was at the Jedi temple during Order 66. But it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that Anikin is still alive (seeing as Obi Wan knows that Anikin changed his name to Darth Vader and there's a Darth Vader walking about. Couldn't be too hard to connect the dots). Obi-Wan lived in isolation on Tatooine, so pretty far separated from the events of the Empire. It makes sense he wouldn’t hear about it. I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired. Unless him falling to the Dark Side severed that connection. We never see a Master able to sense their fallen Padawan before. Not to mention the Dark Side is able to shroud someone from their senses, even standing mere feet from them.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 12, 2022 16:10:26 GMT
I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired. Unless him falling to the Dark Side severed that connection. We never see a Master able to sense their fallen Padawan before. Not to mention the Dark Side is able to shroud someone from their senses, even standing mere feet from them. I doubt it. Light Side or Dark Side the Force is still the Force. Just two sides of the same thing. Besides which, Anakin sensed Obi Won on the Death Star in Episode IV. And he and Luke could sense each other at Endor.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 12, 2022 17:04:14 GMT
I look it at more as Obi Wan was shocked to see the abomination Anakin became instead of learning that he was alive because due their force connection they should be able to sense the other's death, but the writing left a lot to be desired. Unless him falling to the Dark Side severed that connection. We never see a Master able to sense their fallen Padawan before. Not to mention the Dark Side is able to shroud someone from their senses, even standing mere feet from them. I don't think the connection was severed but the distance at which a master apprentice can sense each other is probably determined by their power in the force. Like Obi Wan and Anakin sensing each other in A New Hope when the former arrived on the DS versus Yoda sensing dying jedi from a solar system away. Then you have the darkside shroud preventing Yoda from sensing Dooku's turn while he could still sense Anakin giving in to the darkside in AoTC which implies the shroud has to be actively used to hide the darksider's presence.
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Post by Evil on Jun 12, 2022 18:32:05 GMT
The confusion of if Vader and Obi Wan ought to be able to sense each other might make more sense if you think of force senses working like hearing and our perception of what we hear does.
Drop a brick in a completely silent room and it'll be heard by anyone. Drop the same brick in an active building site and it'll likely be heard but ignored because it fits in with existing background noise. Drop it in the middle of an artillery barrage and the sound will probably be drowned out and unnoticed.
If theres something in the place they meet each other at that makes it "noisy", they might well not "hear" each other. If theres something there that'd remind each of them of the other, they might ignore that familiar "sound".
It'd match with nobody "hearing" Yoda because he lived right next door to that dark side cave, and Obi Wan's hiding spot on Tatooine being close enough to where Anakin butchered a clan of Tusken raiders to hide him.
Is there any context of that sort that'd explain it being "noisy" or previously assosiaced with each other?
Disclaimer:
I've not watched the new series because it'd involve either piracy or giving the dirty rat money. Neither of those is gonna happen, so I'm missing some of the fine detail here.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 12, 2022 19:41:19 GMT
The confusion of if Vader and Obi Wan ought to be able to sense each other might make more sense if you think of force senses working like hearing and our perception of what we hear does.
Drop a brick in a completely silent room and it'll be heard by anyone. Drop the same brick in an active building site and it'll likely be heard but ignored because it fits in with existing background noise. Drop it in the middle of an artillery barrage and the sound will probably be drowned out and unnoticed.
If theres something in the place they meet each other at that makes it "noisy", they might well not "hear" each other. If theres something there that'd remind each of them of the other, they might ignore that familiar "sound".
It'd match with nobody "hearing" Yoda because he lived right next door to that dark side cave, and Obi Wan's hiding spot on Tatooine being close enough to where Anakin butchered a clan of Tusken raiders to hide him.
Is there any context of that sort that'd explain it being "noisy" or previously assosiaced with each other?
Disclaimer:
I've not watched the new series because it'd involve either piracy or giving the dirty rat money. Neither of those is gonna happen, so I'm missing some of the fine detail here.
We're in weird spot because in the Disney lore there's no clear cut explanation behind the limits of force sensing, and bonds which makes everything i mentioned speculative due to how porous the new lore is.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 12, 2022 19:45:54 GMT
The confusion of if Vader and Obi Wan ought to be able to sense each other might make more sense if you think of force senses working like hearing and our perception of what we hear does.
Drop a brick in a completely silent room and it'll be heard by anyone. Drop the same brick in an active building site and it'll likely be heard but ignored because it fits in with existing background noise. Drop it in the middle of an artillery barrage and the sound will probably be drowned out and unnoticed.
If theres something in the place they meet each other at that makes it "noisy", they might well not "hear" each other. If theres something there that'd remind each of them of the other, they might ignore that familiar "sound".
It'd match with nobody "hearing" Yoda because he lived right next door to that dark side cave, and Obi Wan's hiding spot on Tatooine being close enough to where Anakin butchered a clan of Tusken raiders to hide him.
Is there any context of that sort that'd explain it being "noisy" or previously assosiaced with each other?
Disclaimer:
I've not watched the new series because it'd involve either piracy or giving the dirty rat money. Neither of those is gonna happen, so I'm missing some of the fine detail here.
We're in weird spot because in the Disney lore there's no clear cut explanation behind the limits of force sensing, and bonds which makes everything i mentioned speculative due to how porous the new lore is. Ignore Disney lore. It's nothing more than (mostly) bad fanfiction anyway.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 12, 2022 20:14:33 GMT
We're in weird spot because in the Disney lore there's no clear cut explanation behind the limits of force sensing, and bonds which makes everything i mentioned speculative due to how porous the new lore is. Ignore Disney lore. It's nothing more than (mostly) bad fanfiction anyway. I was about to ask "When did it all go wrong?" even though we already know the answer but at least Lucas is swimming in an olympic sized pool of money now. I was thinking about the Kotor remake and wonders if they'll make Darth Bandon's saber crystal effect permanent. On my first playthrough i switched it out before discovering it's effect on the old forums.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 12, 2022 20:58:41 GMT
We're in weird spot because in the Disney lore there's no clear cut explanation behind the limits of force sensing, and bonds which makes everything i mentioned speculative due to how porous the new lore is. Ignore Disney lore. It's nothing more than (mostly) bad fanfiction anyway. That's solid advice to live by. 👍
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Post by Hier0phant on Jun 15, 2022 20:54:52 GMT
The 5th episode was the best by far in terms of story, and choreography and i wish they had displayed this level of quality for the previous episodes. Until the end credits i thought they brought Nick Gillard back as the stunt coordinator. My only gripe with the EP was Tala's scene seeming a bit too melodramatic, and Reva rolling around Vader like a Dark Souls character was hilarious, but it was good to see Hayden Christensen back as Anakin while O'Shea Jackson's a decent actor, and i'm glad to see he's expanding acting his credits. Hopefully they'll maintain the 5th Episode's level of quality or exceed it for the 2nd season.
My rank for S1's episodes...
1)-EP5 2)-EP3
*noticeable drop in quality*
3)-EP1 4)-EP2
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5)-EP4
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