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Post by Amirit on May 16, 2017 11:36:27 GMT
(if someone want to use him I can post the Archive link after work. He still needs a lot of work but I like him) Please, do. For science, obviously
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 21:11:41 GMT
Thanks, I book marked him in case I ever need to have a Reyes X Gil run.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 16, 2017 21:14:35 GMT
Now you all just need to find a way to make Hawke look like Reyes in Dragon Age 2.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on May 17, 2017 0:17:44 GMT
Has this been shared? Saw it pages back in the twitter thread. Link -- xla-hainex.tumblr.com
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Post by aimingtolove on May 17, 2017 22:46:21 GMT
So I had no idea, if you get on Sloane's bad side upon meeting with her for the first time, you get an extra scene with Reyes in Kadara's market. I was actually surprised when I got the scene during my newest playthrough
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Post by dmc1001 on May 17, 2017 23:13:53 GMT
I don't think this is new. I've never had a bad meeting with Sloane (though I intend to once the next patch is in place so my game doesn't crash) but I could swear I've had that dialogue before.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on May 17, 2017 23:38:17 GMT
Ryder's dialogue to Reyes also changes slightly depending on what type of bad the meeting goes. I have to say, I prefer giving Sloane shit. :ulikeit: It's pleasing and gets you more Reyes.
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Post by aimingtolove on May 17, 2017 23:55:27 GMT
I'm almost positive it isn't new, but I had never had anything but a meeting that went well with Sloane... so it was just new for me. I just had to share my own personal surprise at not knowing about the scene before now! And yeah, after having played through both directions the Sloane meeting can go in... I definitely prefer leaving her pissed off. Especially when it means saving the angara she has locked up! I have no idea why I never even thought of that as a possibility.. Hah. :/
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Post by tehprincessj on May 18, 2017 0:51:22 GMT
Yeah, I've never actually left Vehn in Sloane's keeping, even that 1 time I left her in charge of Kadara. But I usually get, "I think she likes me " instead of "she almost shot me" since I opt to tell her the truth.
Reyes's laugh at the beginning of this scene is wonderful. ❤
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Post by Zitrus on May 18, 2017 5:42:45 GMT
Yes, this scene has always been there. Shortly after release, some people said you had to save Vehn to be able to work with Reyes later on or romance him, which is obviously false. Have you ever noticed that he stands closer to Ryder at the end of their first meeting at Kralla's if you say you will take Vehn with you no matter what (it makes him stand closer when he tells you there might be another way to get to Vehn) instead of "maybe Sloane will agreee to a deal"?
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Post by dino on May 18, 2017 6:29:45 GMT
It's a "Oh, Ryder doesn't like Sloane..." #Hearteyes
I mean Sloane lost me already after I saw her guards beating some poor people. :'D
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on May 18, 2017 10:41:46 GMT
Wow, now I feel I'm missing out because I didn't get to that point even when I tried the non-civilized route. The more Reyes the better, of course, but does it mean if you choose to piss Sloane off, there is no way to leave the angara to rot? I mean, he sold the super important/revered Angaran Moshae to the kett... out of cowardice or something like that if I remember correctly (not quite there yet on my 2nd PT). Ugh. Someone even considered saving him for other reasons than trolling Sloane?
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Post by Zitrus on May 18, 2017 11:26:56 GMT
You always get this scene if you don't agree with her. Either if you don't want to tell what you need him for or if you do tell her and then disagree on her deal to talk to him before the execution. As for reasons, he is a member of the resistance, so it is their right to choose his fate. This is Ryder's reasoning. If you save him he ends up having to work in the gardens on Aya. You can talk to him there.
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Post by dino on May 18, 2017 11:38:23 GMT
Evfra wants him and thats why I bring him the Angara. Not because I want to troll Sloane. Easy choice.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 11:46:50 GMT
Has this been shared? Saw it pages back in the twitter thread. Link -- xla-hainex.tumblr.com I am getting Atton vibe. Must be the jacket.
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Post by fialka on May 18, 2017 13:21:30 GMT
You always get this scene if you don't agree with her. Either if you don't want to tell what you need him for or if you do tell her and then disagree on her deal to talk to him before the execution. As for reasons, he is a member of the resistance, so it is their right to choose his fate. This is Ryder's reasoning. If you save him he ends up having to work in the gardens on Aya. You can talk to him there.
Exactly this. It has nothing to do with wanting to save the guy. I just feel it isn't Sloane's place (or Ryder's for that matter) to decide his fate. Also there's the added reasoning that Evfra wants him alive, and since our relationship with the Angara is still tenuous I want to stay on his good side and do what he asks if I can. Also trolling Sloane is fun. Makes up for the fact that I wasn't allowed to troll Aria (who I actually liked better than Sloane but how much fun would that have been!? ) And you get an extra scene with Reyes? Win win. Plus I like that you get the added content with Vhen on Aya. That the Moshae herself seems to forgive him for betraying her confirms that not letting Sloane execute him as a display of her power (which I'm sure is as much her motivation for it as any sense of actual justice) only affirms that choice.
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Post by Sah291 on May 18, 2017 14:38:24 GMT
I wonder if at some point in development they intended to make it so that you didn't even meet Reyes if you made the deal with Sloane. I saw that in several guides when the game first came out, and it had me confused thinking there was an alternate route where Sloane gives you additional quests instead of Reyes.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on May 18, 2017 16:24:03 GMT
That would be... damn weird. Deprive us of a character entirely for no apparent reason? Also forcing us to choose sides so early? Glad they decided otherwise... (Also, don't get me started on how I wouldn't be able to make a decision in that case)
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Post by wildannie on May 18, 2017 16:28:01 GMT
I've never let Sloane keep Vehn for the reasons everyone's referring to above. It makes sense that diplomacy with the Angaran resistance is more important than with the exiles. Sloane has no right to pass judgment on Vehn. I'm just coming to the end of my speed(ish) run with Scott / Cora and had to take the hard decision to save Sloane, it just felt like something this Scott would do, he's very by the book. He didn't try and shoot him though... it was hard I also had that impression Sah291 but had never tried it because why would you ever have a game without Reyes???
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 16:36:25 GMT
I wonder if at some point in development they intended to make it so that you didn't even meet Reyes if you made the deal with Sloane. I saw that in several guides when the game first came out, and it had me confused thinking there was an alternate route where Sloane gives you additional quests instead of Reyes. I am glad they did not do it that way. I really like the whole conflict on Kadara and both characters being in the game. I guess, they might have wanted to do the "work for Mages" or "work for Shadow Thieves" again, to add to the "replayability", but shooting Reyes also helps the players that do not like Reyes and avoids the storm of why poor dears are forced to like him.
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Post by Zitrus on May 18, 2017 18:27:24 GMT
I also had that impression Sah291 but had never tried it because why would you ever have a game without Reyes??? Heh, judging by this forum alone, there are people who would prefer that. I wonder if at some point in development they intended to make it so that you didn't even meet Reyes if you made the deal with Sloane. I saw that in several guides when the game first came out, and it had me confused thinking there was an alternate route where Sloane gives you additional quests instead of Reyes. I am glad they did not do it that way. I really like the whole conflict on Kadara and both characters being in the game. I guess, they might have wanted to do the "work for Mages" or "work for Shadow Thieves" again, to add to the "replayability", but shooting Reyes also helps the players that do not like Reyes and avoids the storm of why poor dears are forced to like him. True. And you only have to do 3 missions with him. You can skip the party (I did it once out of curiosity, only slightly altered dialogue regarding Keema). On the one hand, Sloane could use a bit more development. You can talk to her about different topics but it is entirely optional. On the other hand, the way she is currently written, she doesn't want the Pathfinder meddling in Kadara's business. Even Kaetus only asks for assistance once. It would look strange for her to suddenly seek help or associate more with Ryder.
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Post by poyopachii on May 19, 2017 4:58:17 GMT
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Post by Lady Artifice on May 19, 2017 20:57:26 GMT
Now you all just need to find a way to make Hawke look like Reyes in Dragon Age 2. Reverse that, in my case.
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Post by Lady Artifice on May 19, 2017 21:03:10 GMT
So, I'm well into one of my playthroughs without a Reyes romance, and it's hard. I'm actually trying to play a character who's very standoffish toward Reyes, and then he offered that line about winning Ryder over eventually.
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