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Post by ryderflynn on May 6, 2017 13:39:43 GMT
There's a mod to remove Carver? Link please? He gets particularly on my Hawke's nerves due to a clash of personality (I went with sarcastic Hawke, something that furthers Carver's rivalry, apparently, as opposed to aggressive Hawke). The line that particularly struck a nerve was at the beginning, when he said "The Templars are after you!" like it's none of his business, despite Hawke being his sister. His whole "woe is me" attitude certainly didn't help. Eh, he deserves a chance (with sarcastic-aggressive jerk Hawke he's good). But I do not force, so: Sophie's choiceI'm guessing this would probably require me to replay the game before the scene where Carver/Beth was killed. If so, never mind. Thanks anyway. I'll just put up with him for now and give him a chance, hah.
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Post by azarhal on May 6, 2017 15:48:37 GMT
Ah Kirkwall, people there have strange hobbies.
A Chantry sister sent me to my death just to piss off the Qunari. I was sturdier than she expected I think. To bad I couldn't punch her in the face. A investigated a murder, or kidnapping, well something...all I found was a severed hand with a ring on it and no culprit. A investigated a kidnapping of a Templar recruit, looks like blood mages were having some fun there. A made a deal with a Carta dwarf for money for the expedition...even if I didn't need it.
Now I'm in the deep road and I want to leave Bertrand out there. He's not the most joyous company. How did Varric endured him all these years?
Also, pissed Cassandra is best Cassandra.
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Post by Rascoth on May 6, 2017 15:55:25 GMT
Ah Kirkwall, people there have strange hobbies. If someone in Kirkwall had normal hobby, I would - ironically - think twice before approaching them. Normal in Kirkwall? That would be too fishy
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Post by Abraxas on May 6, 2017 16:42:21 GMT
Realized that playing a mage Hawke gets you stuck with a whiny brother. You can always left him to die in the Deep Roads. No mods needed, and makes the poor Hawke's drama all the more tragic.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 6, 2017 16:45:57 GMT
Realized that playing a mage Hawke gets you stuck with a whiny brother. You can always left him to die in the Deep Roads. No mods needed, and makes the poor Hawke's drama all the more tragic. Hard to imagine my jester of a Hawke would do that, roleplaying-wise, as annoying as he might be. He would have to give her a really good reason to leave him to die, like joining the Templars that try to hunt her or something. Even then, it would still give her pause.
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Post by Abraxas on May 6, 2017 17:17:55 GMT
Plot-wise, there is no way Hawke can know her brother will get infected with the Taint while traveling the Deep Roads.
"I'll wager it was those deep mushrooms we found"—Varric
If you not have Anders on your team, Hawke also have no way to know that Stroud and his Warden team is nearby, and can allow Carver to take the Joining and, despite the fatality rates of the Joining, survive (and according to Varric, they learned about it many months after they returned to Kirkwall).
So, while you as a player can control his destiny (left him in Kirkwall to make him a Templar; leave Anders in Kirkwall and Carver to the Deep Roads to kill him; or both to the Roads to make him a Grey Warden), Hawke, the character, have no control of fate. Because of that Carver/Bethany death in Deep Roads in so tragic. Is something Hawke could not expect neither control.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 6, 2017 17:28:48 GMT
Plot-wise, there is no way Hawke can know her brother will get infected with the Taint while traveling the Deep Roads. " I'll wager it was those deep mushrooms we found"—Varric If you not have Anders on your team, Hawke also have no way to know that Stroud and his Warden team is nearby, and can allow Carver to take the Joining and, despite the fatality rates of the Joining, survive (and according to Varric, they learned about it many months after they returned to Kirkwall). So, while you as a player can control his destiny (left him in Kirkwall to make him a Templar; leave Anders in Kirkwall and Carver to the Deep Roads to kill him; or both to the Roads to make him a Grey Warden), Hawke, the character, have no control of fate. Because of that Carver/Bethany death in Deep Roads in so tragic. Is something Hawke could not expect neither control. Ah, right. I should probably have noted that I've never had a playthrough with Carver before, so I have little idea what happened to him in the Deep Roads either. Even if Beth suffered a similar fate, I've pretty much forgotten about her fate as well. lol So, yeah, half of what you said kinda went over my head a little, but I more or less understand. Leave Anders in Kirkwall and make Carver go into the Deep Roads if I want him to die. Got it.
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Post by phoray on May 6, 2017 17:29:24 GMT
SO, I'm a bit confused about the differences between a College of Enchanters vs the old Circles.
Other than the lack of constant Templar vigilance upon their persons... What changed?
They get to visit their families? Free pass to travel away from the Circle anytime they feel like a vacation? Actually properly prepared for their Harrowing? Mage children aren't strung up on sight?
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Post by Catilina on May 6, 2017 17:37:28 GMT
SO, I'm a bit confused about the differences between a College of Enchanters vs the old Circles. Other than the lack of constant Templar vigilance upon their persons... What changed? They get to visit their families? Free pass to travel away from the Circle anytime they feel like a vacation? Actually properly prepared for their Harrowing? Mage children aren't strung up on sight?The College of Enchanters The College of Enchanters is a kind of council. Under Leliana it's the one official organization for Mages, until Vivienne coming and organize the Circles again, but she can't force the Mages into her Circles. Under Cassandra these working just as before, and the Circles too (probably softer and less corrupts). Under Vivienne the College working as before also, but a bit hostile against the rebuilt Circles.
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Post by Abraxas on May 6, 2017 17:41:11 GMT
Include, maybe, more freedoms on what they want to study. I can see them studying all kinds of magic schools and that, not only the ones sanctioned by the Chantry (and there are more forbidden magic stuffs that only Blood Magic; like the Avvar and Chasind practices).
And also, maybe the mages of noble lineage not losing their rights (and this would make the College popular with the nobility).
I guess, the College will be more akin the Imperial Circle than to the Chantry Circle.
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Post by phoray on May 6, 2017 17:46:01 GMT
SO, I'm a bit confused about the differences between a College of Enchanters vs the old Circles. Other than the lack of constant Templar vigilance upon their persons... What changed? They get to visit their families? Free pass to travel away from the Circle anytime they feel like a vacation? Actually properly prepared for their Harrowing? Mage children aren't strung up on sight?The College of Enchanters The College of Enchanters is a kind of council. But where do you get that from? I've been reading the Wiki, and other than saying "College of Enchanters is awesome peaceful happy sauce" I haven't found anywhere where it says "this is how it does things differently." Do mages still live in buildings together? Or do they stay at home and just go to "college" approximately 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week? Wouldn't this cause a lot of children and even adults to be poor and homeless if they weren't provided with housing by the establishment? Which makes me think they still life together in a building. Which is actually kinda bad, magic being all in one spot tends to thin the veil. Maybe once they've passed their harrowing, they get permission to leave the circle easily-ish I mean, how do they deal with Apostates? Mages that refuse to be "taught" in a college all day? I think even under Divine Leliana, apostasy would still be illegal.
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Post by Catilina on May 6, 2017 17:49:26 GMT
The College of Enchanters is a kind of council. But where do you get that from? I've been reading the Wiki, and other than saying "College of Enchanters is awesome peaceful happy sauce" I haven't found anywhere where it says "this is how it does things differently." Do mages still live in buildings together? Or do they stay at home and just go to "college" approximately 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week? Wouldn't this cause a lot of children and even adults to be poor and homeless if they weren't provided with housing by the establishment? Which makes me think they still life together in a building. Which is actually kinda bad, magic being all in one spot tends to thin the veil. Maybe once they've passed their harrowing, they get permission to leave the circle easily-ish I mean, how do they deal with Apostates? Mages that refuse to be "taught" in a college all day? I think even under Divine Leliana, apostasy would still be illegal. Oh, I upgraded my answer already, sorry. So: this is just a council, with delegated members. The mages live in the Circles, or at home (Leliana). Under Leliana I think, the College organize the education etc. The apostasy under Cassandra and Vivienne in principle illegal. But none of them was capable of forcing every mage in the Circle.
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Post by House Targaryen on May 7, 2017 4:21:41 GMT
Finished the Fade quest. I finally pulled the trigger and told the Grey Wardens to GTFO of Orlais. A first in the many play thrus that I've done.
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Post by phoray on May 7, 2017 4:38:04 GMT
Finished the Fade quest. I finally pulled the trigger and told the Grey Wardens to GTFO of Orlais. A first in the many play thrus that I've done. Haven't done that and a couple of other things yet either. Like telling that one girl to join the Wardens so I can see her be the sacrifice. Letting the villagers die in haven. Letting the Chargers die. Letting Loghain live. If you don't do Jose's quest, I imagine she isn't killed, but is there an epi slide reference I wonder?
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Post by Abraxas on May 7, 2017 5:13:51 GMT
Yeah, in Tresspasser. The slides change depending if you do her quest through normal means, or don't do her quest, or do her quest using the Hard Leli method.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 7, 2017 8:28:38 GMT
Spending a lot of time at the Black Emporium trying to design a prettier Asian female Hawke. Having moderate success with the help of mods (and with the detriment of them), but I just can't get that distinct Asian eye color right because of a lack of black eye color. All I get are brown or almond colors.
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Post by azarhal on May 7, 2017 11:57:01 GMT
Like telling that one girl to join the Wardens so I can see her be the sacrifice. What?!!! I didn't know that...and I'm pretty sure I told the girl to join the Wardens in my first playthrough.
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Post by fylimar on May 7, 2017 13:40:42 GMT
Finished the Fade quest. I finally pulled the trigger and told the Grey Wardens to GTFO of Orlais. A first in the many play thrus that I've done. Haven't done that and a couple of other things yet either. Like telling that one girl to join the Wardens so I can see her be the sacrifice. Letting the villagers die in haven. Letting the Chargers die. Letting Loghain live. If you don't do Jose's quest, I imagine she isn't killed, but is there an epi slide reference I wonder? I did send the girl to the wardens on my first playthrough. I was a bit naive and thought, that joining the wardens is a good idea despite their problems. I thought, the girl seems a sane down to earth person who might change something. I was truely shocked, when that scene came and I basically got an 'I told you so' from Solas. I never let her join the wardens again, although I feel sorry for the old warden, who gets sacrificed instead of her too. But at least, he volunteered. I didn't let the villagers, the Chargers or Hawke die so far - and probably will never do those. Some things aren't worth doing for story purpose, killing off people, I like, is among them. I felt a bit sorry for Stroud, when I left him in the fade - he is one of those minor characters, that did grow on me. Loghain changed so much, that I felt bad either (I really like him in DAI, so I will probably let him live more often from now on in DAO), Alistair is normally king with Anora in my world stats (that's just my favorite - he is too dumb to rule, she can use a bit more empathy through Ali, so they are perfect for each other), so I don't know, how I would feel to kill him off. I didn't like Ali that much in DAO, but maybe he is more likeable for me as a GW - I should try that at least in one playthrough. Loghain redeemed himself in my eyes, maybe Ali can too. What I neverever would do is killing my Hawkes - I love them all. Plus: what would Fenris, Isabella or Anders say. Especially Anders would probably start blowing things up in frustration again ... or maybe Justice would demand a trip to the Fade to punish Nightmare ... that could make for an interesting story ... With Riya, I used the option to steal the killing contract via Leliana. I have to do Trespasser yet with that character, so I don't know about Josies slider at the end, but I'm curious.
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Post by Rascoth on May 7, 2017 13:55:57 GMT
Haven't done that and a couple of other things yet either. Like telling that one girl to join the Wardens so I can see her be the sacrifice. Letting the villagers die in haven. Letting the Chargers die. Letting Loghain live. Yeah, there are things I just can't do. Just. No. Even in ME, where I'm far more... *cough* open when it comes to choices experimenting. What I neverever would do is killing my Hawkes - I love them all. Plus: what would Fenris, Isabella or Anders say. Especially Anders would probably start blowing things up in frustration again ... or maybe Justice would demand a trip to the Fade to punish Nightmare ... that could make for an interesting story ... I killed Hawke once. Once. With world state crafted specially so I could do it. Still barely managed it. Hawke is my favourite protag from my favourite game... 'twas hard. Everyone's reaction didn't help. With Riya, I used the option to steal the killing contract via Leliana. I have to do Trespasser yet with that character, so I don't know about Josies slider at the end, but I'm curious. Tbh my favourite outcome
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Post by fylimar on May 7, 2017 13:57:41 GMT
With Riya, I used the option to steal the killing contract via Leliana. I have to do Trespasser yet with that character, so I don't know about Josies slider at the end, but I'm curious. Tbh my favourite outcome ok, now I'm even more curious
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Post by ryderflynn on May 7, 2017 17:29:20 GMT
My Hawke has finally started practicing blood magic... There's probably some kind of contradiction in the lore with Hawke openly using blood magic in Kirkwall, but this is the same game that lets everyone sees your magic staff hanging from your back, after all (my "Hide Weapons" mod's GDA file isn't working for some reason). Oh well. Really annoyed that such a cool magic tree has been nerfed down, but I compensated it with the "Supreme Blood Magic" mod to better improve it. I know the Elemental tree is far more superior, but the roleplaying idea of Hawke secretly using blood magic behind Carver's back... it's just too tempting and exciting to dismiss. Had to respec my attributes into Constitution and then use the "No willpower requirements" mod, but it seems like it's worth it.
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Post by Catilina on May 7, 2017 17:54:09 GMT
My Hawke has finally started practicing blood magic... There's probably some kind of contradiction in the lore with Hawke openly using blood magic in Kirkwall, but this is the same game that lets everyone sees your magic staff hanging from your back, after all (my "Hide Weapons" mod's GDA file isn't working for some reason). Oh well. Really annoyed that such a cool magic tree has been nerfed down, but I compensated it with the "Supreme Blood Magic" mod to better improve it. I know the Elemental tree is far more superior, but the roleplaying idea of Hawke secretly using blood magic behind Carver's back... it's just too tempting and exciting to dismiss. Had to respec my attributes into Constitution and then use the "No willpower requirements" mod, but it seems like it's worth it. I now plan using blood magic with my Hawke... poor Anders, I imagine how would hate this. I already have blood mage Hawke(s), in Inquisition, this can cause some disappointing, but you can explain somehow... 1. Hawke's a conceited Blood Mage, a Blood Mage may be prone to consider him/herself as a capable person, and the others as a weak, potential threat... 2. Hawke plays the idiot hypocrite's role, that s/he hates blood magic... My lovely hypocrite...
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Post by Iddy on May 7, 2017 21:43:57 GMT
Ughhhhh... I fucked up the dialogue choices AGAIN!
I'm at the part where you enter the Fade in DAO. My character is meant to have intelligence as one of his defining traits, so when confronting Fake Duncan he should've said "Wait, shouldn't you be dead?"
Instead, it turned out more like he just thinks "Duncan" is wrong about the darkspawn being gone.
Sten did better than this. He already knows his fellow qunari aren't real when you meet him.
I think I'm gonna reload the previous file from 5 hours ago. God... will I ever finish this game?
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Post by Abraxas on May 7, 2017 22:28:47 GMT
If you're playing on PC, I recommend you to use that mod that allows to skip most of that annoying quest.
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Post by Catilina on May 7, 2017 22:48:11 GMT
If you're playing on PC, I recommend you to use that mod that allows to skip most of that annoying quest. I need such a thing in the Inquisition. The Origins isn't soo long.
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