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Post by q5tyhj on May 14, 2017 7:04:36 GMT
Trying to get Dorian and Iron Bull to hook up. Many playthroughs, never actually got it to happen. Didn't help that once I finally did some research on exactly how the banter works (what pauses/resets the timer, etc.) I realized I had wasted a bunch of time, and this shit takes forever as it is. So how does the banter work. I could use some tips It appears to be on a ~15 min timer, and anything that causes a loading screen (fast travelling, entering a Villa/underground area/etc) resets the timer, using a mount pauses the timer, entering the menus pauses the timer... and apparently there's also a few spots where banter can't be triggered (Winter Palace, Therinfal Redoubt, possibly the Western Approach, a few other mainly quest-specific places). Banter can be specific to any of the party members, can be related to the region you're in (Hinterlands, Storm Coast, Emerald Graves, etc.), can be quest-related- you'll have to grit your teeth through a few "oh its raining" or "oh its cold" comments that count as your banter for that period before you get to the juicy stuff. But so basically what you want to do is run around (never fast travelling, never riding a mount) with just Iron Bull and Dorian (to eliminate banter about/by someone else)... go close all the Fade Rifts in a region, for instance (it also seems/is reported that closing rifts, completing quests, and finishing fights triggers banter). Using a timer helps keep track of where you're at; its nice to know when you have only a min or two before the next banter, so you know when you'll be able to fast travel or leave or whatever. I also read conflicting things about the Inquisitor being locked into a romance with someone besides Iron Bull/Dorian either helping or being required to trigger their romance, so I locked into Cassandra romance just to be safe. Anyways, I've now gotten the first banter that supposedly sets up their romance (the "conquer" one), and a few other random flirtatious ones, so I guess so far so good. I wish I had known all this before I did everything in the Hissing Wastes, that would have been perfect for getting this done- so much empty space to run around and kill time (and no quests that require loading screens).
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 7:30:47 GMT
Made a new Hawke today. A mage named Jyoti. She is a bit on the wild side and she will have problems with Anders and Merrill, because she is of the opinion that people like those two give mages their bad reputation (getting possessed and becoming an abomination and fiddling with blood magic). My Hawkes noramlly try to come up with some excuses for both Anders and Merrill and always end up helping them. I have played Hawkes who rivaled Fenris, gave Isabella to the Arishok, let Varric keep the idol, not getting Aveline and Donnic together and always denied Sebastian revenge. It is time, that Anders and Merrill get some hard times too. I might even try to send Anders away in act 2. In that case, my Hawke doesn't have to be totally clueless when she helps him finding his ingredients for the bomb. Apart from her zero tolerancy for the idiocy ofsome fellow mages, she is pro mage, easy going and more the funny type. This is Jyoti I see Bethany in the pic. Did you mod to have a mage Hawke and Bethany too? No, this is before she has the encounetr with the ogre - at the beginning, where Leandra suggested to go to Kirkwall
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 7:36:44 GMT
Edit: Hawke: "So I shouldn't slit my wrists and dance naked under the moonlight just to fit in?" Anders: "I would pay to see that." If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 7:44:08 GMT
So how does the banter work. I could use some tips It appears to be on a ~15 min timer, and anything that causes a loading screen (fast travelling, entering a Villa/underground area/etc) resets the timer, using a mount pauses the timer, entering the menus pauses the timer... and apparently there's also a few spots where banter can't be triggered (Winter Palace, Therinfal Redoubt, possibly the Western Approach, a few other mainly quest-specific places). Banter can be specific to any of the party members, can be related to the region you're in (Hinterlands, Storm Coast, Emerald Graves, etc.), can be quest-related- you'll have to grit your teeth through a few "oh its raining" or "oh its cold" comments that count as your banter for that period before you get to the juicy stuff. But so basically what you want to do is run around (never fast travelling, never riding a mount) with just Iron Bull and Dorian (to eliminate banter about/by someone else)... go close all the Fade Rifts in a region, for instance (it also seems/is reported that closing rifts, completing quests, and finishing fights triggers banter). Using a timer helps keep track of where you're at; its nice to know when you have only a min or two before the next banter, so you know when you'll be able to fast travel or leave or whatever. I also read conflicting things about the Inquisitor being locked into a romance with someone besides Iron Bull/Dorian either helping or being required to trigger their romance, so I locked into Cassandra romance just to be safe. Anyways, I've now gotten the first banter that supposedly sets up their romance (the "conquer" one), and a few other random flirtatious ones, so I guess so far so good. I wish I had known all this before I did everything in the Hissing Wastes, that would have been perfect for getting this done- so much empty space to run around and kill time (and no quests that require loading screens). Here's a thing. Devs claimed that banter worka this way, but I haven't seen many people that got it to work like that. More often than not I saw people not getting banter at all no matter what they did (excluding mods, console commands or anything like that), while there's group that can get banter more often that every 15 min, in combat, after fast travelling/dismounting, etc. Which devs claimed was outside what they planned. So as of now, while what you wrote is theory backed up by devs, practice shows something different *sigh* Hissing Wastes is indeed perfect place for doing that. Edit: fylimar I love bringing Anders with me, but once in a while I just have to leave him to hear this comment
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 7:48:43 GMT
Edit: fylimar I love bringing Anders with me, but once in a while I just have to leave him to hear this comment Since I heard Orsinos comment, I never bring Anders to that quest again (even when I romance him), Orisnos voice actor just nailed that line so perfectly, it became one of my favorites
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Post by q5tyhj on May 14, 2017 7:58:31 GMT
It appears to be on a ~15 min timer, and anything that causes a loading screen (fast travelling, entering a Villa/underground area/etc) resets the timer, using a mount pauses the timer, entering the menus pauses the timer... and apparently there's also a few spots where banter can't be triggered (Winter Palace, Therinfal Redoubt, possibly the Western Approach, a few other mainly quest-specific places). Banter can be specific to any of the party members, can be related to the region you're in (Hinterlands, Storm Coast, Emerald Graves, etc.), can be quest-related- you'll have to grit your teeth through a few "oh its raining" or "oh its cold" comments that count as your banter for that period before you get to the juicy stuff. But so basically what you want to do is run around (never fast travelling, never riding a mount) with just Iron Bull and Dorian (to eliminate banter about/by someone else)... go close all the Fade Rifts in a region, for instance (it also seems/is reported that closing rifts, completing quests, and finishing fights triggers banter). Using a timer helps keep track of where you're at; its nice to know when you have only a min or two before the next banter, so you know when you'll be able to fast travel or leave or whatever. I also read conflicting things about the Inquisitor being locked into a romance with someone besides Iron Bull/Dorian either helping or being required to trigger their romance, so I locked into Cassandra romance just to be safe. Anyways, I've now gotten the first banter that supposedly sets up their romance (the "conquer" one), and a few other random flirtatious ones, so I guess so far so good. I wish I had known all this before I did everything in the Hissing Wastes, that would have been perfect for getting this done- so much empty space to run around and kill time (and no quests that require loading screens). Here's a thing. Devs claimed that banter worka this way, but I haven't seen many people that got it to work like that. More often than not I saw people not getting banter at all no matter what they did (excluding mods, console commands or anything like that), while there's group that can get banter more often that every 15 min, in combat, after fast travelling/dismounting, etc. Which devs claimed was outside what they planned. So as of now, while what you wrote is theory backed up by devs, practice shows something different *sigh* Since posting that I got the 2nd and 3rd supposedly crucial romance banters (the one about Qunari being "forbidden", and "about last night..."), went back to Skyhold and Iron Bull had a new, "So... You and Dorian?" conversation option- he confirms they're gettin' busy. So this method does work... Provided you're not afflicted by any of the bugs that reportedly mess up the banter. In which case, then yeah, I don't doubt that most of what I said doesn't apply, and you'll have to cross your fingers and try some of the work-arounds (console commands, supposedly viewing all of your completed quests and/or inventory items so they're not marked as "new" helps, there may be others). But if you get banter normally, then running around with just Iron Bull and Dorian, avoiding fast travel, etc. will get you the romance banter and the Skyhold confirmation convo option from Iron Bull/Dorian.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 8:21:37 GMT
Here's a thing. Devs claimed that banter worka this way, but I haven't seen many people that got it to work like that. More often than not I saw people not getting banter at all no matter what they did (excluding mods, console commands or anything like that), while there's group that can get banter more often that every 15 min, in combat, after fast travelling/dismounting, etc. Which devs claimed was outside what they planned. So as of now, while what you wrote is theory backed up by devs, practice shows something different *sigh* Since posting that I got the 2nd and 3rd supposedly crucial romance banters (the one about Qunari being "forbidden", and "about last night..."), went back to Skyhold and Iron Bull had a new, "So... You and Dorian?" conversation option- he confirms they're gettin' busy. So this method does work... Provided you're not afflicted by any of the bugs that reportedly mess up the banter. In which case, then yeah, I don't doubt that most of what I said doesn't apply, and you'll have to cross your fingers and try some of the work-arounds (console commands, supposedly viewing all of your completed quests and/or inventory items so they're not marked as "new" helps, there may be others). But if you get banter normally, then running around with just Iron Bull and Dorian, avoiding fast travel, etc. will get you the romance banter and the Skyhold confirmation convo option from Iron Bull/Dorian. Good for you I hope you'll enjoy their little Trespasser content. Oh I don't doubt that. In fact I'm one of those people that get banter when we shoudn't have (had banter bug till patch 6 iirc). In battle. After fast-travelling. Sometimes every 3-4 minutes. There are times I can't get banter as well. But netherless, I already hear more than most. What saddens me is that BW didn't trully discover cause of this bug. Every patch they claimed they fixet it, but every patch fixed it for some, while break it for others. So they didn't find that one thing to cause it all.
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Post by q5tyhj on May 14, 2017 8:26:14 GMT
^ yep that sounds like Bioware alright
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 8:45:57 GMT
So how does the banter work. I could use some tips It appears to be on a ~15 min timer, and anything that causes a loading screen (fast travelling, entering a Villa/underground area/etc) resets the timer, using a mount pauses the timer, entering the menus pauses the timer... and apparently there's also a few spots where banter can't be triggered (Winter Palace, Therinfal Redoubt, possibly the Western Approach, a few other mainly quest-specific places). Banter can be specific to any of the party members, can be related to the region you're in (Hinterlands, Storm Coast, Emerald Graves, etc.), can be quest-related- you'll have to grit your teeth through a few "oh its raining" or "oh its cold" comments that count as your banter for that period before you get to the juicy stuff. But so basically what you want to do is run around (never fast travelling, never riding a mount) with just Iron Bull and Dorian (to eliminate banter about/by someone else)... go close all the Fade Rifts in a region, for instance (it also seems/is reported that closing rifts, completing quests, and finishing fights triggers banter). Using a timer helps keep track of where you're at; its nice to know when you have only a min or two before the next banter, so you know when you'll be able to fast travel or leave or whatever. I also read conflicting things about the Inquisitor being locked into a romance with someone besides Iron Bull/Dorian either helping or being required to trigger their romance, so I locked into Cassandra romance just to be safe. Anyways, I've now gotten the first banter that supposedly sets up their romance (the "conquer" one), and a few other random flirtatious ones, so I guess so far so good. I wish I had known all this before I did everything in the Hissing Wastes, that would have been perfect for getting this done- so much empty space to run around and kill time (and no quests that require loading screens). Wow that's really helpful thanks
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 8:50:19 GMT
Edit: Hawke: "So I shouldn't slit my wrists and dance naked under the moonlight just to fit in?" Anders: "I would pay to see that." If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way. I never heard that Poor Orsino, very underrated. People can't forgive him, that he knew Quentin...
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 9:03:11 GMT
If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way. I never heard that Poor Orsino, very underrated. People can't forgive him, that he knew Quentin... I agree. His only crime was to have a friend, who di go mad. And his Harvester transformation in the end, when you side with the mages, never made sense to me. Thankfully there is a great mod, that removes it completely. About my playthrough with Jyoti: I'm not sure, if I want to send Anders away, just to have done that too. I never make Feynriel tranquil either, because that seems a really harsh punishemnt for a mere child (and he seems to really get the hang of his gift - if his story interests you, try the horror movie 'Before I wake', it features a boy, with a similar gift, who got the hang of it almost too late). Despite his many faults, Anders really did grow on me and I still do believe, that there would be a way to separate Justice and Anders again. Plus, I just can't give Sebastian the satisfaction Tried some great mods today, that make Isabellas, Merrills and Fenris' skins more dark (and more HD) - it always did bother me, that Isa and Merrill do look quite pale compared to their DAO counterparts and Fenris looks better with the darker skin tone (plus that mod has new optional hair for him too and I do hate that anime style default hair).
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Post by ryderflynn on May 14, 2017 9:04:52 GMT
Let's be fair, Orsino (and just about everybody in DA2, even Anders) got pushed too far. It's a whole bright spot of sunshine of characters in DA2. There are a few mods that imo make experience far less painful. The one that makes all Wartable missions complete instantly, and the one that allows you to unlock whatever perk you want without doing prerequisites. Oh, insta-loot as well. I also pick mods basically for all male companions appearances, 'cause they are less terribly looking that way. But all mods better uninstalled before starting Trespasser. Darn things crashes (sigh). I hate the new DAI mod manager, how I have to "re-merge" all the mods whenever I want to install (or in my case, uninstall) a mod. It's time-consuming and frustrating, practically like the War Table problem that mod's trying to fix anyway. Also, I've uninstalled the cosmetic mods as soon as I saw what they did to the Inquisitor when entering the CC screen. I installed "SK Hair Re-texture" that made certain haircuts look weird (specifically those "bald cuts" with little hair). I installed "Immersive Starting Armors", but I think that one made the skin tone disproportionate. The skin tone of the Inquisitor's head doesn't match her body, which really looks weird and out of place. So yeah, I think I'd just play safe and skip the cosmetics mod for now. DAI looks good enough for me anyway. Edit: Okay, I've tested it out, and it seems the bald cut looks weird with or without the mod: See those little gaping holds in between the hair? Off-putting. Think I'll just put off SK's hair mod for later though. Too lazy to remerge everything all over again.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 9:40:36 GMT
If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way. I never heard that Poor Orsino, very underrated. People can't forgive him, that he knew Quentin... Yeah. I really like Orsino, pity they had to kill him one way or another so they had both leaders dead by the next game. I can somehow see him going Harvester if you side with templars, but when you decide to help mages? The very reason he asks for Hawke to come help in The Last Straw was because he had faith in Hawke's capabilities *sigh* As of Quentin, I actually connected the dots in my first pt as soon as I saw the letter, so I wasn't really surprised by him admitting to know him in the Gallows. But I somehow get it when people that didn't do that come from, especially if you go certain route with Circle Bethany and see her reaction. Personally? While you could somehow connect Orsino to Leandra's death, he wasn't directly responsible for it nor I'm convinced that he knew why Quentin wanted those books. Besides, if you blame Orsino for her death, I wouldn't see a reason why many wouldn't blame Hawke for deaths of their beloved (which, now that I think about it, most likely happens despite us not seeing it). After all s/he was also unwilling accomplice (if that's what you want to call Orsino in the first place) for many deaths. Of course sometimes s/he was willing accomplice, but that's another matter. *cough* Ekhm, to be on topic... Does playing Heroes of Dragon Age count?
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 10:07:19 GMT
I never heard that Poor Orsino, very underrated. People can't forgive him, that he knew Quentin... Yeah. I really like Orsino, pity they had to kill him one way or another so they had both leaders dead by the next game. I can somehow see him going Harvester if you side with templars, but when you decide to help mages? The very reason he asks for Hawke to come help in The Last Straw was because he had faith in Hawke's capabilities *sigh* As of Quentin, I actually connected the dots in my first pt as soon as I saw the letter, so I wasn't really surprised by him admitting to know him in the Gallows. But I somehow get it when people that didn't do that come from, especially if you go certain route with Circle Bethany and see her reaction. Personally? While you could somehow connect Orsino to Leandra's death, he wasn't directly responsible for it nor I'm convinced that he knew why Quentin wanted those books. Besides, if you blame Orsino for her death, I wouldn't see a reason why many wouldn't blame Hawke for deaths of their beloved (which, now that I think about it, most likely happens despite us not seeing it). After all s/he was also unwilling accomplice (if that's what you want to call Orsino in the first place) for many deaths. Of course sometimes s/he was willing accomplice, but that's another matter. *cough* Ekhm, to be on topic... Does playing Heroes of Dragon Age count? I now saw the Templars side: Bethany's reaction was natural, and at the end seems she felt sorry for Orsino. Not mentioned, that who so much care about Bethany's emotions, why siding with the Templars and risks to fight against her? She ask Hawke to fight at her side! She born as a mage, didn't choose her fate, than Templar Carver... so: crying for Bethany's emotions is okay, while backstabbing her? I consider Hawke, who siding Templar against Bethany, while "care" about her a hypocrite prick.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 10:20:00 GMT
I saw it in my one and only pt I sided with templars at the end. I admit, it was for achievement and reloaded right after I got it, so I could properly side with mages. I consider Hawke, who siding Templar against Bethany, while "care" about her a hypocrite prick Yeah, I did feel like that
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Edit: Hawke: "So I shouldn't slit my wrists and dance naked under the moonlight just to fit in?" Anders: "I would pay to see that." If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way. I think it only happens for female Hawkes. Male Hawkes get "I would... not recommend it" Which is silly, since male Hawke is ripped.
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 12:08:52 GMT
If you don't bring Anders, Orsino answers and says: 'If that's your intention, maybe I'll join you after all.' In a quite funny way. I think it only happens for female Hawkes. Male Hawkes get "I would... not recommend it" Which is silly, since male Hawke is ripped. Yes, I remember. Then this is why I didn't hear before. So, Orsino's straight, or just simply does not attracted to Hawke... (as bisexual Jack to fem!Shep...)
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 12:17:17 GMT
I think it only happens for female Hawkes. Male Hawkes get "I would... not recommend it" Which is silly, since male Hawke is ripped. Yes, I remember. Then this is why I didn't hear before. So, Orsino's straight, or just simply does not attracted to Hawke... (as bisexual Jack to fem!Shep...) I agree, the way, he delivered his line to female Hawke is a bit flirty (and probably the reason, why so many Orsino/fHawke fanfics are out there ). So it might have been his slightly awkward (in a cute way) way to signal interest in fHawke.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 12:29:16 GMT
Yes, I remember. Then this is why I didn't hear before. So, Orsino's straight, or just simply does not attracted to Hawke... (as bisexual Jack to fem!Shep...) I agree, the way, he delivered his line to female Hawke is a bit flirty (and probably the reason, why so many Orsino/fHawke fanfics are out there ). So it might have been his slightly awkward (in a cute way) way to signal interest in fHawke. One line and people are send into spiral of madness ready to sail their ships. Just the way it should be
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 13:11:39 GMT
I agree, the way, he delivered his line to female Hawke is a bit flirty (and probably the reason, why so many Orsino/fHawke fanfics are out there ). So it might have been his slightly awkward (in a cute way) way to signal interest in fHawke. One line and people are send into spiral of madness ready to sail their ships. Just the way it should be Isn't that always the case? I'm not a big shipper myself, but at least, I can understand the Orsino /fHawke one. I have no idea, if he can be antagonistic, if Hawke sides with Meredith at the beginning of act 3 (I never did that), but I guess most player consider him an ally for most of the game and many probably like him (that 'Skip the Harvester' mod seems to be very popular and since the fight isn't that hard, I thought it must be, because some player like Orsino and don't want to kill him). I've read somewhere that people like to ship Samson with either Hawke or Inqui and that seems much more strange to me. But who am I to judge... I'm pretty sure, if you look long enough, there might even be an inqui/Corypheus love story somewhere ... now I will never get those pics out of my mind, why did I have to write that?
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 13:18:58 GMT
One line and people are send into spiral of madness ready to sail their ships. Just the way it should be Isn't that always the case? I'm not a big shipper myself, but at least, I can understand the Orsino /fHawke one. I have no idea, if he can be antagonistic, if Hawke sides with Meredith at the beginning of act 3 (I never did that), but I guess most player consider him an ally for most of the game and many probably like him (that 'Skip the Harvester' mod seems to be very popular and since the fight isn't that hard, I thought it must be, because some player like Orsino and don't want to kill him). I've read somewhere that people like to ship Samson with either Hawke or Inqui and that seems much more strange to me. But who am I to judge... I'm pretty sure, if you look long enough, there might even be an inqui/Corypheus love story somewhere ... now I will never get those pics out of my mind, why did I have to write that? I'm pretty sure I once stumbled upon Quizzy/Samson fic, short one, but really well thought and executed, that for a second that pairing actually made sense. Tho tbh, if I were to consider one of those options, I see Samson quicker with Hawke than Inquisitor, considering what Hawke can do for him. Well, Cory is fabulous, in his own way, with high-heels and striped stockings I can't believe I wrote that
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Post by deadlydwarf on May 14, 2017 13:34:06 GMT
I'm not sure what message BW was trying to send here; Anders betrays your trust and possibly implicates your Hawke in a terrorist attack, thus, figuratively stabbing Hawke in the back and the only way you can execute him for his crimes is to literally stab him in the back? Really? I supposed they could add in the option of Hawke telling him to stand up and take his medicine bravely but I think Anders would just sit there like a limp noodle and tell Hawke to get it over with. That's how I view Anders's character; always facing away.A valid observation. But they should vary observation with Hawke's class. A mage should blast him with some spell. A warrior should use his/her main weapon. An Archer should take care of him Sera-style. It would add replay value among the "I hate Anders" club!
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Post by deadlydwarf on May 14, 2017 13:43:37 GMT
I never heard that Poor Orsino, very underrated. People can't forgive him, that he knew Quentin... I agree. His only crime was to have a friend, who di go mad. And his Harvester transformation in the end, when you side with the mages, never made sense to me. Thankfully there is a great mod, that removes it completely. About my playthrough with Jyoti: I'm not sure, if I want to send Anders away, just to have done that too. I never make Feynriel tranquil either, because that seems a really harsh punishemnt for a mere child (and he seems to really get the hang of his gift - if his story interests you, try the horror movie 'Before I wake', it features a boy, with a similar gift, who got the hang of it almost too late). Despite his many faults, Anders really did grow on me and I still do believe, that there would be a way to separate Justice and Anders again. Plus, I just can't give Sebastian the satisfaction Tried some great mods today, that make Isabellas, Merrills and Fenris' skins more dark (and more HD) - it always did bother me, that Isa and Merrill do look quite pale compared to their DAO counterparts and Fenris looks better with the darker skin tone (plus that mod has new optional hair for him too and I do hate that anime style default hair). DA2 - the flawed masterpiece! Acts 1 and 2 are solid. In Act 3, they kind of lose it. It doesn't matter whether your Hawke is pro-mage, pro-Templar, or going straight down the middle, having either Orsino or Meredith send you on a quest to annihilate a group of mages and Templars who are working together doesn't make any sense. Nor does the Orsino Harvester scene. Speaking of which, what does the mod you mention do? Does Orsino just disappear entirely?
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 14:14:21 GMT
I agree. His only crime was to have a friend, who di go mad. And his Harvester transformation in the end, when you side with the mages, never made sense to me. Thankfully there is a great mod, that removes it completely. About my playthrough with Jyoti: I'm not sure, if I want to send Anders away, just to have done that too. I never make Feynriel tranquil either, because that seems a really harsh punishemnt for a mere child (and he seems to really get the hang of his gift - if his story interests you, try the horror movie 'Before I wake', it features a boy, with a similar gift, who got the hang of it almost too late). Despite his many faults, Anders really did grow on me and I still do believe, that there would be a way to separate Justice and Anders again. Plus, I just can't give Sebastian the satisfaction Tried some great mods today, that make Isabellas, Merrills and Fenris' skins more dark (and more HD) - it always did bother me, that Isa and Merrill do look quite pale compared to their DAO counterparts and Fenris looks better with the darker skin tone (plus that mod has new optional hair for him too and I do hate that anime style default hair). DA2 - the flawed masterpiece! Acts 1 and 2 are solid. In Act 3, they kind of lose it. It doesn't matter whether your Hawke is pro-mage, pro-Templar, or going straight down the middle, having either Orsino or Meredith send you on a quest to annihilate a group of mages and Templars who are working together doesn't make any sense. Nor does the Orsino Harvester scene. Speaking of which, what does the mod you mention do? Does Orsino just disappear entirely? I agree, they should have fleshed out the whole Orsino/Meredith plot a bit more and give the characters a bit more sense. The mod just skips the Harbvester - Orsino still has that speech about how he is afraid, they wont make it through the fighting, but afterwards, he stayed Orsino and alive. He stays back with the other circle mages, when you move on to confront Meredith. So technically, he is still alive (which probably wouldn't change any of the events in DAI, he probably died at the conclave). When you side with the templars, he still changes and attacks.
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 16:12:01 GMT
I just played my rogue Alighiera a bit more in DA2. She stopped Anders from killing a girl and helped him coming to terms afterwards with a lot of bad jokes (really the purple dialogue options are pure gold here. It's as if Anders is reliefed that she liked him still enough to crack a joke) Afterwards a lost patrol leads to teh chantry and Sister petrice again. Funny comment from Anders: And the gang:
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