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Post by Serza on Jan 18, 2017 21:16:10 GMT
This is the thread intended for out of character interactions regarding "Aftermath"
WORLDSTATE: Ending: High EMS Destroy Shepard: Male, Paragon Geth: Peace with the Quarians Krogan: Wrex leads, Genophage has been cured Location: London, Earth Time: 2186
CHARACTERS: Caelus Hadrian Kato Feun Zahn Viratas Skyla Marsh Sar'Neda
The actual RP thread will be coming up shortly.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 18, 2017 22:30:28 GMT
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jan 20, 2017 2:31:01 GMT
I think that those of us who are heading for the triage station might want to consider jumping ahead to when we arrive, unless any of you wanted your character to do something on the way.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 20, 2017 6:16:46 GMT
Let's make that Timeline universal In order to maintain consistency.
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2017 8:45:09 GMT
Basically figure out the communications black out. There has to be a way, though I don't think the triage station is the final step in solving the issue. I believe they have maps to some proper radios, and not just the PRRs we have.
Then we might as well receive some orders, and since we talked about some Thanix missiles, it might not be a bad thing to investigate that particular plot.
I'm also looking up the details of electromagnetic pulses, the one logical thing the wave could generate other than Reepah-ded wave. Those could feasibly disrupt communications by disrupting the waves of signal. EMP also gives people an unpleasant buzz, which could explain the headaches. Most characters already know about the weapon, and that means Sar must have banged her head pretty good when the wave hit her, I guess.
Edit: I also don't see a peaceful solution to Sar's and Skyla's initial encounter without anyone else around, thanks to the general anti-Cerberus nature. They were the enemy during the Reaper War AND attacked the Migrant Fleet in 2183. And Skyla is still wearing their armor. And Sar had information on a need-to-know basis - she didn't need to know of one former Cerberus operative being friendly.
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2017 10:58:56 GMT
Considering from what I read up already, there are a few types of EMP.
Interesting were Lighting and Static Discharge types.
Lighting tends to build up to a strong pulse (and keeps discharging weaker pulses afterwards for a period of time) while Static Discharge tends to fry whatever isn't shielded. Of course, a few hundred years in the future, EMPs are possibly countered by shielding everything, as solar flares are EMP too. Meaning hardsuits and omni-tools should be shielded even in the civilian sector, while the military is interested in keeping it's stuff running in case someone decides to use an EMP.
Now, the nature of lighting EMP, with it's smaller ripples after the major pulse, are what gives the theory juice: These smaller pulses could be what's initially blocking communications, rather than radios being fried. Now, I read up a little bit on radio interference, and EMP pulses indeed cause this. This means that radios will eventually start working again, and since it's likely all transmitters are blocked, there could be an automated message.
In the end - we're not looking for a long-range radio. We're looking for a QEC, since the quantum entanglement ignores jamming and interference. That, or trooping it on until the blasts eventually stop.
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2017 20:23:06 GMT
Well, that's done. Sar's at the triage station. Now's the time we see whether she's the first of the five to get there or not...
And Gen, we probably should chat about that first encounter, because I'm not planning on making it very nice. Think Prazza's welcome to Shepard on Freedom's Progress (he's mentioned, by the way, as Private Iri, the gung-ho kid, hehe) times a few.
If you decide so, you can hit me up on PM, and we can figure out a closer-knit back and forth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 22:13:33 GMT
Well, that's done. Sar's at the triage station. Now's the time we see whether she's the first of the five to get there or not... And Gen, we probably should chat about that first encounter, because I'm not planning on making it very nice. Think Prazza's welcome to Shepard on Freedom's Progress (he's mentioned, by the way, as Private Iri, the gung-ho kid, hehe) times a few. If you decide so, you can hit me up on PM, and we can figure out a closer-knit back and forth.
I have no idea who Prazza is but sure, im happy to pm you about it 
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jan 20, 2017 23:16:39 GMT
When it's my turn, I'm going to have my character arrive shortly before Sar does (in fact, I'll mention her arrival near the end of my post). Unless General or Laughing Man's changes things significantly, I'll likely ask about communications. You mentioned a quantum entanglement communicator. Are we assuming the triage station has it? Or are we going to have to search somewhere else and/or wait for the EMP to stop?
Also, since you're talking about the way Sar and Skyla will handle their first encounter, remember that Cael also has a reason to hate Cerberus. They killed his mother. There's definitely going to be some tension when he meets an ex-Cerberus operative.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 23:40:40 GMT
Ok so a Quarian and a Turian for sure wont get along with the infamous ex-Cerberus hitman (well hit woman)  will be interesting at least 
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Post by Serza on Jan 21, 2017 0:02:11 GMT
I was thinking whereever Shep was preparing for the Beam run. That particular FOB had one as I recall.
I can imagine how the two will just encircle Skyla, weapons aimed and all... That'll be interesting yet.
As for other characters, I'm not sure how Kato will be seen, but Zahn... That'll hurt. He's not career military, yet somehow, he got bumped up to LtCdr, which is somewhere at Major or Lieutenant Colonel in equivalent. Meanwhile, Caelus is a Staff Sergeant and has (I'll presume, since he has over a decade of enlistment and an impressive Reaper war record in the Character thread) earned it, much like Sar has earned the rank of Sergeant First Class, which is one rank difference in her favor. I can easily foresee a good relationship, though I'll have to think whether they can become friends, 'cuz PTSD and survivor's guilt. Definitely that "I can trust this guy in a firefight"...
Which reminds me I need to read up on PTSD if I want to be anyhow believable in writing.
Perhaps we could also wander out to look for wounded/fallen and bump into Zahn that way?
I'm certainly interested in how the character banter and relationships are going to be developed. I've only ever done that in fanfiction, and this is brand new experience.
Lastly, if you want to explore that path, there's a difference in their branch. Caelus is working with a completely different intel group and belongs in an elite unit in the army branch, while Sar works with what the Quarians and the Geth can (could, for the Geth) gather and the way THEY interpret the intel. She is also with the Special Forces, so I'd imagine 73rd Rangers versus SEAL Team Six difference? Up to you.
(If anyone has any idea, do share!)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 8:16:12 GMT
Seems like we have some good ideas here. Kato will likely want to stop on the way somewhere to lick his wounds and fix/start modifications on his gear. An assassin like him would probably feel naked with the damage that Banshee did to him and his gear, also will probably need some time to get over the trauma of a close shave with the amorous Banshee... It might take him awhile until he joins the group. Just a thought in regards to Skyla Cerberus's uniform, wouldn't she try to disguise them or something? I mean, Cerberus wasn't known for being particularly kind for deserters, why would she go around wearing something that identifies her as Cerberus? She has painted her armor a little (I was thinking some blue stripes down the side either in paint or lights or something like that) to show she isnt affiliated with them anymore, but at a distance it could be easy to mistake her for Cerberus. There are actually a few reasons why she still wears her armor. Its linked to the drones she uses, and it would be hard to replicate on Omega (which is where shes spent most of her time), its what shes "used to" almost, it being what shes used for quite a few years and what she was trained in... I can imagine swapping from a Nemesis helmet to a normal helmet would take some time to adjust... and also its what people know her for... like if people know of a hitman wearing Nemesis armor, then the hitman changes... it'll almost like make her less recognizable, so less likely to get contracts and stuff. Since lots of people on Omega know about her (well, not her name but her abilities) its almost like she has her own brand in a sense, and the Nemesis armor keeps her recognizable and unique amongst alllllll the other assassins Also intimidation too 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
She has painted her armor a little (I was thinking some blue stripes down the side either in paint or lights or something like that) to show she isnt affiliated with them anymore, but at a distance it could be easy to mistake her for Cerberus. There are actually a few reasons why she still wears her armor. Its linked to the drones she uses, and it would be hard to replicate on Omega (which is where shes spent most of her time), its what shes "used to" almost, it being what shes used for quite a few years and what she was trained in... I can imagine swapping from a Nemesis helmet to a normal helmet would take some time to adjust... and also its what people know her for... like if people know of a hitman wearing Nemesis armor, then the hitman changes... it'll almost like make her less recognizable, so less likely to get contracts and stuff. Since lots of people on Omega know about her (well, not her name but her abilities) its almost like she has her own brand in a sense, and the Nemesis armor keeps her recognizable and unique amongst alllllll the other assassins Also intimidation too Still, that would mean that practically everyone in the ME universe will either be suspicious of her at first glance, or just open fire... I would have tried to disguise the armor, and make it sufficiently different than the Cerberus version, maybe paint the Armor in a brighter color scheme, or put the colors of whatever mercenary company on it. I dunno, at the time of ME3 wearing Cerberus colors seems like a huge liability.
Suspicion she wont care about, opening fire... well, you wouldnt shoot a hitman youre hiring it suits her purposes, and it is out of place on earth fighting reapers... which is kinda a point, because so is she it isnt something shes used to. Shes never needed a different armor
Brighter colors wouldnt be so good for stealth though, and she doesnt work for any mercenary company although she will have painted over the Cerberus logos also, just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 18:04:21 GMT
Suspicion she wont care about, opening fire... well, you wouldnt shoot a hitman youre hiring it suits her purposes, and it is out of place on earth fighting reapers... which is kinda a point, because so is she it isnt something shes used to. Shes never needed a different armor
Brighter colors wouldnt be so good for stealth though, and she doesnt work for any mercenary company although she will have painted over the Cerberus logos also, just saying.
I'm not really trying to make you change your character or anything. Just saying that if whatever she looks like still screams "Cerberus!" that would mean an open invitation for hostility in the post ME3 period.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jan 22, 2017 4:33:30 GMT
Lastly, if you want to explore that path, there's a difference in their branch. Caelus is working with a completely different intel group and belongs in an elite unit in the army branch, while Sar works with what the Quarians and the Geth can (could, for the Geth) gather and the way THEY interpret the intel. She is also with the Special Forces, so I'd imagine 73rd Rangers versus SEAL Team Six difference? Up to you. (If anyone has any idea, do share!) We can figure out the specifics as we go, but that sounds like a pretty close approximation of what I was thinking. I was looking at it more as the Soldier vs Infiltrator difference, though. Sar is trained for stealth operations (if I'm not mistaken), whereas Cael is trained more for direct combat and raids. We can explore that once we've gotten the team together. I think Cael, Sar, and Skyla could have their first encounter at the station. We could run into Zahn shortly after we begin searching for the Thanix missiles.
Also, thanks for adding me to the PM.
EDIT: By the way, would you happen to know how big a turian legion is? The description for the Havoc Soldier refers to the 26th Armiger Legion as a "squad," but the impression I got from the wiki is that a legion is much bigger than a squad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 8:35:36 GMT
Lastly, if you want to explore that path, there's a difference in their branch. Caelus is working with a completely different intel group and belongs in an elite unit in the army branch, while Sar works with what the Quarians and the Geth can (could, for the Geth) gather and the way THEY interpret the intel. She is also with the Special Forces, so I'd imagine 73rd Rangers versus SEAL Team Six difference? Up to you. (If anyone has any idea, do share!) We can figure out the specifics as we go, but that sounds like a pretty close approximation of what I was thinking. I was looking at it more as the Soldier vs Infiltrator difference, though. Sar is trained for stealth operations (if I'm not mistaken), whereas Cael is trained more for direct combat and raids. We can explore that once we've gotten the team together. I think Cael, Sar, and Skyla could have their first encounter at the station. We could run into Zahn shortly after we begin searching for the Thanix missiles.
Also, thanks for adding me to the PM.
EDIT: By the way, would you happen to know how big a turian legion is? The description for the Havoc Soldier refers to the 26th Armiger Legion as a "squad," but the impression I got from the wiki is that a legion is much bigger than a squad.
Google says a legion is between 3000 and 6000 although that was for the Romans not the Turians 
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Post by Serza on Jan 22, 2017 10:11:42 GMT
The term Legion, as far as I know, originates in the New Testament, which is also where Legion the Geth platform gets his, at Mark 5:9.
The Bible then literally claims that "My name is Legion, for we are many." Now one translation directly claims the number 6000, likely because of the modern interpretation of the term.
Wiki claims Roman legions were aproximately 5,000 men strong, and even argues that once, the term Legion could have been the name for the entire Roman military (which obviously doesn't apply here).
The Spanish legion, from the same source, claims to be aprox. 8,000 men strong, being shock troopers in purpose.
The French Foreign Legion (Légion Étrangére) is about 7,800 men strong, also being considered an elite unit of the French military.
75th Ranger Regt. is 3,600 men strong: it's a unit comparable to the Spanish and French legions in purpose, IMHO. It is organized into three Btn.'s
Then there are legions formed during wars from an ethnical/national group: The Czechoslovak legions in Russia were up to 40,000 men strong by 1918.
Lastly, Wiki puts the size of a modern Legion in league with that of a Division at 10,000-15,000 men.
Take your pick, heh.
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Post by Serza on Jan 22, 2017 12:02:19 GMT
Also, something I forgot to mention, most of the operations Sar has made were actually black ops. Nobody knows she was really there. And if they do, she used a fake name, and nobody knows what she was doing or why she was there, and it was just so until the Reaper War.
For all intents and purposes, she spent most of her adult life off the books.
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Post by Serza on Jan 22, 2017 22:10:26 GMT
Yeah, just gonna drop by and say that when I wrote that Cael is "far more calm about the situation than he should be" I mean that in-character.
Also based that off DD's message. Kind of said we shouldn't really be aggressive on the first encounter with Skyla, so... I interpreted it as in, he won't start shouting and hold Skyla at gunpoint?
I mean, I like disclaimers, so I thought I'd put this here... Let me know if I should adjust that last sentence.
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jan 22, 2017 22:19:56 GMT
Yeah, just gonna drop by and say that when I wrote that Cael is "far more calm about the situation than he should be" I mean that in-character. Also based that off DD's message. Kind of said we shouldn't really be aggressive on the first encounter with Skyla, so... I interpreted it as in, he won't start shouting and hold Skyla at gunpoint? I mean, I like disclaimers, so I thought I'd put this here... Let me know if I should adjust that last sentence. Nah, it's all good. I can work with that.
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Hey, if it's a problem, I can always click edit...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 7:44:35 GMT
Skyla wont be happy if Cerberus is there 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 7:52:20 GMT
Here's a thought, if Skyla shoots the other Cerberus agent (if she used a sword that would probably make her a Phantom rather than another Nemesis), the others might be more open to the idea that maybe she is only ex-Cerberus. I was just thinking that Skyla would probably and try and shoot them 
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Post by Serza on Jan 23, 2017 8:44:26 GMT
So... she thinks Sar is a Cerberus agent coming after her?
That would put an interesting mechanic, because Sar thinks that's a Cerberus assassin coming to do... well, no good.
But this way, they'd both think their survival is on the line, and well, I'm not sure I can imagine a better plot twist.
Cael was able, and depending on what DD has in store, could have seen the Alliance soldier double-checking Skyla. And since Sar thinks that's a Cerberus assassin, as I said, she's not likely to stand down. Protecting people is why she joined up in 2179, and that's what she thinks she's doing. And no matter how the situation develops, she won't regret taking Skyla at gunpoint, even though she wouldn't do it had she known.
But Cael might mediate between the two.
Ideally, we end up with a "You really need a different armor" situation.
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