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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 3:55:20 GMT
Jaal is definitely a breath of fresh air. We've never had a male/male pairing in a BioWare game with such a stable and healthy personality. I approve greatly and hope we will get more options like this in the future. It's pretty common for f/m pairings of course: Alistair, Cullen, and Garrus all come to mind-though I guess Garrus does have a bit too much angst too. Eh, it's a toss up. I still prefer Kaidan in Mass Effect Original Trilogy though. It is lame that I have to wait to game 3 though. these games have made me wish being a straight/bi woman tbh being torn to choose between Thane, Kaidan and Garrus in MET, having Alistair as LI, or being torn again between Cullen and IB gives me happiness and makes me sad at the same time. At least we got Jaal after a good fight! I wish the fandom would have done that with Cullen. Every time I read straight women always have had it bad in romance content until Jaal... lol gurl shut the fuck up plz lol It's sort of like complaining your starving when you have lots of food in your fridge. It just doesn't work.
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Post by LadyCass on Aug 15, 2017 9:41:08 GMT
I think that's a case of quality over quantity for that one, though gay romances definitely get the short end of the stick. The femShep romances were being compared to straight maleShep romances. Garrus was great, most of the other romances were, well, fraught. Kaiden hates you, Thane dies, Jacob runs off to have a baby with someone else. (wtf)
In DA:I my first run through was as a female bisexual elf. I took every flirt option, and there were so many. I think I worked out I had seven options.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 15, 2017 14:47:57 GMT
I think that's a case of quality over quantity for that one, though gay romances definitely get the short end of the stick. The femShep romances were being compared to straight maleShep romances. Garrus was great, most of the other romances were, well, fraught. Kaiden hates you, Thane dies, Jacob runs off to have a baby with someone else. (wtf) In DA:I my first run through was as a female bisexual elf. I took every flirt option, and there were so many. I think I worked out I had seven options. Thane is a very cute romance even if he dies heroically, and with Kaidan is like with Alistair, you have to choose well, Kaidan's anger has nothing to do with the romance but his friendship with Shepard, if you stay faithful the romance is free of angst and Kaidan was right about Cerberus so his anger is understandable. Jacob is awful yes lol I dont know, the notion of straight women had it bad more than straight men is arguable, because in my opinion straight women had it better than straight men in DA (plot relevant characters in every game, 3 extra LIs and you can even marry if you like that kind of thing), and they had it better than straight women in ME in general (more quantity and better animations). I just found these complaints really pitiful when you have in mind lgbtq and asexual people.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 15, 2017 15:04:29 GMT
I'm not getting into the whole 'who had it better' debate, I'm just going to say that as a bi female, I've pretty much been spoiled rotten. No complaints here. All of the Andromeda romances (from what I've seen) seem pretty low-drama, and quality differences aside, I'm glad about that. I'm sure in the next game we'll start seeing betrayal/death/LI just isn't there for some random reason start up, so I'm going to enjoy Suvi & Jaal while I can.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 15, 2017 15:35:23 GMT
Greedfall is going to have romances, for those who dont know the game
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 15, 2017 15:40:50 GMT
Greedfall is going to have romances, for those who dont know the game I've never heard of this game before, do they have a website where I can read more about it?
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 15, 2017 15:43:10 GMT
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 15, 2017 15:47:44 GMT
Hehe, I will do that. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 23:06:07 GMT
I'm just glad I have Jaal, as I'm not super confident in this new game at this point. Greedfall could be great though. I just have my doubts.
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 20:03:23 GMT
Vegan Convo up stream:
Happy herbivore Tofu Scramble that uses mustard, black salt, and nutritional yeast is the only way I like my "eggs." I also leave the tofu chunks bigger and cook it to a dryer consistency than others seem to. I never liked slimy eggs, not going to do a tofu version.
I have not been impressed with the Veg-egg as a scramble. For one thing, I always add more black salt anyway to make it eggier. It may be okay as an omelette, it's definitely omeletteable. I'd rather make a chickpea pancake of my own, though, because it's way cheaper than this brand name stuff.
And regarding egg replacement in baking, cookies don't need eggs at all and ground Flax is all that is needed for cake.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 16, 2017 20:42:18 GMT
Vegan Convo up stream: Happy herbivore Tofu Scramble that uses mustard, black salt, and nutritional yeast is the only way I like my "eggs." I also leave the tofu chunks bigger and cook it to a dryer consistency than others seem to. I never liked slimy eggs, not going to do a tofu version. I have not been impressed with the Veg-egg as a scramble. For one thing, I always add more black salt anyway to make it eggier. It may be okay as an omelette, it's definitely omeletteable. I'd rather make a chickpea pancake of my own, though, because it's way cheaper than this brand name stuff. And regarding egg replacement in baking, cookies don't need eggs at all and ground Flax is all that is needed for cake. omg are you vegan (at least veggie?) too??!!!??! I remember reading you a lot in the DA subforum, so glaaaad!!! What is this!? too many veggies!! and I thought I was the only one first I have no experience with eggs substitutes, I liked omelettes but I dont miss them, there is an egg substitute here in Spain but I dont even remember the name. And for tortilla española we use chickpea flour! also Jaal art! link
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Post by Felya87 on Aug 16, 2017 21:15:19 GMT
Do vegan eat honey? Just curious. I usually use it instead of sugar since is more natural than sugar.
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 21:33:07 GMT
Vegan Convo up stream:[ke. omg are you vegan (at least veggie?) too??!!!??! I remember reading you a lot in the DA subforum, so glaaaad!!! What is this!? too many veggies!! and I thought I was the only one first I have no experience with eggs substitutes, I liked omelettes but I dont miss them, there is an egg substitute here in Spain but I dont even remember the name. And for tortilla española we use chickpea flour! also Jaal art! linkVeggie since 2008, vegan since 2012. I get more quiet about it the longer I go. The jokes I get about it are almost as stale as the ones I receive when I perform an Ultrasound. "Any babies in there?!" Hardy har har
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 21:36:28 GMT
Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me
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Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me I don't remember that quest, do you recall what is it called? Also Dolphin's on voeld is also surprising. All I ever find is snow, Kett, and a crazy AI. I clearly need a tour guide.
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 22:58:02 GMT
Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me I don't remember that quest, do you recall what is it called? Also Dolphin's on voeld is also surprising. All I ever find is snow, Kett, and a crazy AI. I clearly need a tour guide. 's in the Task pile? I did everything on Voeld, ties for fave planet with Kadara. It came from someone at Technix. Starts off about poaching. Sorry I can't be more specific. I just finished my first 108 hour game of MEA in 15 days. Names of missions really flew by
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Post by Dazzle on Aug 16, 2017 23:01:41 GMT
Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me I don't remember that quest, do you recall what is it called? Also Dolphin's on voeld is also surprising. All I ever find is snow, Kett, and a crazy AI. I clearly need a tour guide. They're not actually dolphins. They're acquatic creatures called Yevara. You see two Angara talking about it in front of one of the daars, about how upset they are that the yevara are being hunted, how they're part of the Angara heritage.
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 23:05:05 GMT
I don't remember that quest, do you recall what is it called? Also Dolphin's on voeld is also surprising. All I ever find is snow, Kett, and a crazy AI. I clearly need a tour guide. They're not actually dolphins. They're acquatic creatures called Yevara. You see two Angara talking about it in front of one of the daars, about how upset they are that the yevara are being hunted, how they're part of the Angara heritage. The way they were described was like whale sized dolphins. Since you never actually see them, you're left to your imagination. Regardless, his voice actor did a great job voicing Jaal's agony over the decision. His caring that much made me like him more
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 16, 2017 23:07:39 GMT
Do vegan eat honey? Just curious. I usually use it instead of sugar since is more natural than sugar. Every animal product comes from animal exploitation, thus honey is not vegan. Many people think that veganism is a diet, but it's a lifestyle that try to reduce the minimum impact on animal exploitation (vegetarianism is the diet). I'm not linking videos of how honey is handled within that industry but it's pretty terrible. omg are you vegan (at least veggie?) too??!!!??! I remember reading you a lot in the DA subforum, so glaaaad!!! What is this!? too many veggies!! and I thought I was the only one first I have no experience with eggs substitutes, I liked omelettes but I dont miss them, there is an egg substitute here in Spain but I dont even remember the name. And for tortilla española we use chickpea flour! Veggie since 2008, vegan since 2012. I get more quiet about it the longer I go. The jokes I get about it are almost as stale as the ones I receive when I perform an Ultrasound. "Any babies in there?!" Hardy har har great! Oh the jokes, I know... I always have my claws activated in the same way when I discuss against homophobes when those jokes start to come out. Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me TOTALLY! That mission was great!!!! Speaking of Jaal and veganism, I got a PETA vibe during the Dolphin mission on Voeld. The fact that Jaal was obviously torn on the idea of using their carcass for medicine won him points with me I don't remember that quest, do you recall what is it called? Also Dolphin's on voeld is also surprising. All I ever find is snow, Kett, and a crazy AI. I clearly need a tour guide. this one Lee!!! link
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Post by phoray on Aug 16, 2017 23:20:17 GMT
Do vegan eat honey? Just curious. I usually use it instead of sugar since is more natural than sugar. I think the more truthful answer is that the movement is divided on this. I'm more concerned about the long term effects for the Human food supply than the bees themselves. Although I find it rather whimsical to call it more natural considering it's regurgitated. Wonder if we'd bottle cow cud if it tasted good. Probably! Personally, it's not a difficult choice for me. Long before I'd heard of veganism, I thought honey was too sickly sweet. I also don't like caramel for the same reason. So I don't consume either
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 2:44:15 GMT
Thanks for the info everyone! I will do that quest for sure this time around since I'll need the extra xp. I started a completely new character finally since being at level max is a bit boring.
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Post by Felya87 on Aug 17, 2017 6:39:24 GMT
Do vegan eat honey? Just curious. I usually use it instead of sugar since is more natural than sugar. Every animal product comes from animal exploitation, thus honey is not vegan. Many people think that veganism is a diet, but it's a lifestyle that try to reduce the minimum impact on animal exploitation (vegetarianism is the diet). I'm not linking videos of how honey is handled within that industry but it's pretty terrible. You mean a little smoke (usually of aromatic plants, just to make the bees less aggressive) and fruit in exachange of part of the honey (plus sugar if the winter is very hard and for some reason they haven't enought honey left)? Because this is how good honey is made. I don't know, nor I want to know how industrial honey is done. Is non-existant for me. But surely bees are much better for the ambient thajn the cultivation of sugar beet, and extensive cultivation of soy. Frankly, I see veganist as wanting to erase animals, in a way: since with veganism many kind of animals would end up exint. No one would keep chichen or cow just as pets. Or so few that it would make those poor beast a museum piece.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 17, 2017 7:34:33 GMT
Every animal product comes from animal exploitation, thus honey is not vegan. Many people think that veganism is a diet, but it's a lifestyle that try to reduce the minimum impact on animal exploitation (vegetarianism is the diet). I'm not linking videos of how honey is handled within that industry but it's pretty terrible. You mean a little smoke (usually of aromatic plants, just to make the bees less aggressive) and fruit in exachange of part of the honey (plus sugar if the winter is very hard and for some reason they haven't enought honey left)? Because this is how good honey is made. I don't know, nor I want to know how industrial honey is done. Is non-existant for me. But surely bees are much better for the ambient thajn the cultivation of sugar beet, and extensive cultivation of soy. Frankly, I see veganist as wanting to erase animals, in a way: since with veganism many kind of animals would end up exint. No one would keep chichen or cow just as pets. Or so few that it would make those poor beast a museum piece. I'm not entering into a discussion about veganism in this thread, but you are entirely wrong about many facts you think are right. Spoilers for offtopic: Honey industry work like this, that notion that you have is the Disney-like version than that industry want them for you to believe, but since as you said dont want to know, maybe my comment is in vain. Also, if you are worried about the impact that plant-based food cause you should know that millions and millions of animals feed on the same grain and food, and the meat industry cause a more titanic impact than plant-based cultivation, this is without talking about the water spent in the livestock and their food, only U.S. could feed 800 million people with the food that those animals eat. And sorry if I'm laughing to the idea that vegans want to erase animals XD It's in the same line of thought that when more people would open their eyes more people would empathetic, there're enough of land for the animals to live free. Livestock is the world’s largest user of land resources representing almost 80% of the total agricultural land. Can you imagine use just a tiny part of that to properly feed human beings? there would be a looooooot of land without being exploited. The notion that animals would be extinct is plain wrong and something from science fiction in the same way that lions, elefants or other wild animals who are going extinct because we hunt them to exctintion, not because we are not eating them. I recommend you certain documentaries 1- Earthlings (this is about the horrors animals live, meat industry, entertainment industry, fur etc) 2- Cowspiracy (impact of animal agriculture on the environment) 3- and two about health Forks Over Knives and the new What the health this chat with Gary Yourofsky is a good point to start inform yourself also, these facts... I dont care really, personally I'm vegan for the animals because I believe and I know they deserve the same rights as me to live free and with dignity. We dont need them to survive and even to live with luxury. Speciesism is something that is deeply inside of our culture sadly, like racism, sexism or homophobia. The best way to avoid false notions is to inform yourself, watching documentaries, reading articles but beware of those sources financed by any kind of animal exploitation industry. This is my last comment about this! Have a good day :3
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Post by phoray on Aug 17, 2017 7:44:21 GMT
Whoa whoa. Please take to PM.
Sigh. This is why I stop bringing it up with people. Doesn't matter how laid back I am, it always turns into a battle.
I really like Jaal's emails eh? Wish he'd said more of that in person.
I also found the bug part creepy
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Aug 17, 2017 7:47:50 GMT
Whoa whoa. Please take to PM. Sigh. This is why I stop bringing it up with people. Doesn't matter how laid back I am, it always turns into a battle. I really like Jaal's emails eh? Wish he'd said more of that in person. I also found the bug part creepy lol I know and I'm sorry, but I like to inform people even with just one post, casual readers maybe? I dont know. I promise this offtopic is ended on my part. Still pissed that male Ryders dont get the first dearest email
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