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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 20, 2017 17:41:39 GMT
Yeah Jaal is for Ryder only and PeeBee is for Ryder only. They don't share or do poly or anything like that. If you romance Reyes, Jaal even points out the Angara like loyalty in their partners, and he finds Reyes lacking that, so he does not approve of your relationship with Reyes (Sara can point out Jaal is jealous, and he doesn't deny it even if you don't flirt with him). Liam also does not approve of Reyes. Disclaimer: Hey guys, I know I'm not around much anymore, but the truth is, I'm not playing the game much anymore, so I have little to say on-topic (maybe if dlc happens?). But I do miss you all! It's funny that the romance I would probably be most into is the one being side-eyed by all the other romance options lol... I mean, I still appreciate Jaal and I definitely enjoyed his romance, but now that I know the whole story and how the romances play out, I have to admit I'd definitely choose Reyes as my 'canon' option, if only the romance was a little bit more fleshed out and if there was a proper sex scene. Maybe I'm just a horndog, but it's honestly kind of important to me, it seems. The fact that there isn't one means that I'm just not willing to do all the tedious stuff prerequisite to actually completing that questline, for the payoff it offers. Again, Jaal's romance was lovely! I'm happy I spent the time I did on it. I'm just a bit disappointed that the kind of romance sidequests I'm apparently really into get relegated to 'minor' content in most games, and wondering if I'll get a romance I'll really dig ever again. Sorry, I don't mean to whine, I just needed to get some of those a-while-post-playing thoughts off my chest. I hope there's a lot more romance content coming in dlcs! Yeah I wish some of the other romances got the same treatment as Jaal with a nice romance scene (optional for those who don't want it), especially Gil, Reyes and suvi. Also, wanting a romance scene really doesn't make you a horndog and if it does I guess I am too lol. It's nice to hear from you again. :poop: :poop: so my laptop took a turn for the worse, and I haven't been able to play ME:A in well over a week now... I spent all of yesterday in the blistering heat gutting my laptop and nothing looks broken... today I was trawling through all the system files... I JUST WANTED THE SPACE BOOTY WAS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!?! :sob: :rage: :wtf: :D8: :gasp: :srs: Yikes that's messed up, I'm sorry. Are laptops harder to fix? I don't really know since I always had desktops.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jun 20, 2017 18:01:47 GMT
Yeah Jaal is for Ryder only and PeeBee is for Ryder only. They don't share or do poly or anything like that. If you romance Reyes, Jaal even points out the Angara like loyalty in their partners, and he finds Reyes lacking that, so he does not approve of your relationship with Reyes (Sara can point out Jaal is jealous, and he doesn't deny it even if you don't flirt with him). Liam also does not approve of Reyes. Disclaimer: Hey guys, I know I'm not around much anymore, but the truth is, I'm not playing the game much anymore, so I have little to say on-topic (maybe if dlc happens?). But I do miss you all! It's funny that the romance I would probably be most into is the one being side-eyed by all the other romance options lol... I mean, I still appreciate Jaal and I definitely enjoyed his romance, but now that I know the whole story and how the romances play out, I have to admit I'd definitely choose Reyes as my 'canon' option, if only the romance was a little bit more fleshed out and if there was a proper sex scene. Maybe I'm just a horndog, but it's honestly kind of important to me, it seems. The fact that there isn't one means that I'm just not willing to do all the tedious stuff prerequisite to actually completing that questline, for the payoff it offers. Again, Jaal's romance was lovely! I'm happy I spent the time I did on it. I'm just a bit disappointed that the kind of romance sidequests I'm apparently really into get relegated to 'minor' content in most games, and wondering if I'll get a romance I'll really dig ever again. Sorry, I don't mean to whine, I just needed to get some of those a-while-post-playing thoughts off my chest. I hope there's a lot more romance content coming in dlcs! Jaal's romance is great because it's so tied in with the main game. The rest of the squadmates have that too, though to a lesser degree. Then we have Suvi/Gil, and both of those romances should have been way more relevant than they were (with more content). Reyes, unfortunately because of his being on Kadara, is pretty much impossible to work into the main game in a way that makes sense as things stand now. Maybe someday that will change. That's one thing I do miss about DAI romances. ALL of them felt good, I never felt like I was missing out by romancing A instead of B, and the advisor ('crew') romances were awesome. MEA needs to step things up in the dlc in regards to characterization in general. I wouldn't mind the simple addition of a repeatable cuddle/kiss scene for all of the romances either.
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Post by theratpack55 on Jun 20, 2017 18:02:01 GMT
Disclaimer: Hey guys, I know I'm not around much anymore, but the truth is, I'm not playing the game much anymore, so I have little to say on-topic (maybe if dlc happens?). But I do miss you all! It's funny that the romance I would probably be most into is the one being side-eyed by all the other romance options lol... I mean, I still appreciate Jaal and I definitely enjoyed his romance, but now that I know the whole story and how the romances play out, I have to admit I'd definitely choose Reyes as my 'canon' option, if only the romance was a little bit more fleshed out and if there was a proper sex scene. Maybe I'm just a horndog, but it's honestly kind of important to me, it seems. The fact that there isn't one means that I'm just not willing to do all the tedious stuff prerequisite to actually completing that questline, for the payoff it offers. Again, Jaal's romance was lovely! I'm happy I spent the time I did on it. I'm just a bit disappointed that the kind of romance sidequests I'm apparently really into get relegated to 'minor' content in most games, and wondering if I'll get a romance I'll really dig ever again. Sorry, I don't mean to whine, I just needed to get some of those a-while-post-playing thoughts off my chest. I hope there's a lot more romance content coming in dlcs! I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! That would have been a really interesting twist, I'd love that! Admittedly, my cynical side suspects the "Reyes can't die" thing may just be BW's way of avoiding the "but I was romancing him and chose to shoot him and that made him dead?! BW is stupid and homophobic!" kind of backlash that the tunglr crowd is prone to give. But I hope they do have more in store and that it does end up with something like you're suggesting, it would have tied up some loose ends nicely!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 18:05:11 GMT
Disclaimer: Hey guys, I know I'm not around much anymore, but the truth is, I'm not playing the game much anymore, so I have little to say on-topic (maybe if dlc happens?). But I do miss you all! It's funny that the romance I would probably be most into is the one being side-eyed by all the other romance options lol... I mean, I still appreciate Jaal and I definitely enjoyed his romance, but now that I know the whole story and how the romances play out, I have to admit I'd definitely choose Reyes as my 'canon' option, if only the romance was a little bit more fleshed out and if there was a proper sex scene. Maybe I'm just a horndog, but it's honestly kind of important to me, it seems. The fact that there isn't one means that I'm just not willing to do all the tedious stuff prerequisite to actually completing that questline, for the payoff it offers. Again, Jaal's romance was lovely! I'm happy I spent the time I did on it. I'm just a bit disappointed that the kind of romance sidequests I'm apparently really into get relegated to 'minor' content in most games, and wondering if I'll get a romance I'll really dig ever again. Sorry, I don't mean to whine, I just needed to get some of those a-while-post-playing thoughts off my chest. I hope there's a lot more romance content coming in dlcs! Jaal's romance is great because it's so tied in with the main game. The rest of the squadmates have that too, though to a lesser degree. Then we have Suvi/Gil, and both of those romances should have been way more relevant than they were (with more content). Reyes, unfortunately because of his being on Kadara, is pretty much impossible to work into the main game in a way that makes sense as things stand now. Maybe someday that will change. That's one thing I do miss about DAI romances. ALL of them felt good, I never felt like I was missing out by romancing A instead of B, and the advisor ('crew') romances were awesome. MEA needs to step things up in the dlc in regards to characterization in general. I wouldn't mind the simple addition of a repeatable cuddle/kiss scene for all of the romances either. Both Jaal and Reyes are plot romances, so I think that's also why they are so popular. Romancing both also makes them game amazingly more dramatic and emotional too.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 20, 2017 18:05:47 GMT
It's a bit of a turnoff that he seems to be so interested in the asari in general. Like we weren't aware already that some of the devs have a hard on for them. I know right? Though I give Jaal some credit about starting with the Asari when learning about history. He was actually going in alphabetical order if you keep checking back lol A - Asari E - Elcor G - Geth (and Quarians) H - Humans It's also in chronological order. Asari were the first race in our cycle to reach the Citadel, then later the Elcor joined, then some time after that the Morning War happened, and most recently humans arrived.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Jun 20, 2017 18:06:35 GMT
I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! That would have been a really interesting twist, I'd love that! Admittedly, my cynical side suspects the "Reyes can't die" thing may just be BW's way of avoiding the "but I was romancing him and chose to shoot him and that made him dead?! BW is stupid and homophobic!" kind of backlash that the tunglr crowd is prone to give. But I hope they do have more in store and that it does end up something like you're suggesting, it would have tied up some loose ends nicely! Reyes was made for females, so I would more like sexist than homophobic considered the romances for females often end up dead or cheating. I feel like they have a plan for him in the DLC, which is why we couldn't kill him. They could very well follow the Udina's route where regardless of your decision, Reyes would still be the ruler.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 20, 2017 18:09:20 GMT
That would have been a really interesting twist, I'd love that! Admittedly, my cynical side suspects the "Reyes can't die" thing may just be BW's way of avoiding the "but I was romancing him and chose to shoot him and that made him dead?! BW is stupid and homophobic!" kind of backlash that the tunglr crowd is prone to give. But I hope they do have more in store and that it does end up something like you're suggesting, it would have tied up some loose ends nicely! Reyes was made for females, so I would more like sexist than homophobic considered the romances for females often end up dead or cheating. I feel like they have a plan for him in the DLC, which is why we couldn't kill him. They could very well follow the Udina's route where regardless of your decision, Reyes would still be the ruler.
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Post by PenDev0us on Jun 20, 2017 18:14:57 GMT
:poop: :poop: so my laptop took a turn for the worse, and I haven't been able to play ME:A in well over a week now... I spent all of yesterday in the blistering heat gutting my laptop and nothing looks broken... today I was trawling through all the system files... I JUST WANTED THE SPACE BOOTY WAS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!?! :sob: :rage: :wtf: :D8: :gasp: :srs: Yikes that's messed up, I'm sorry. Are laptops harder to fix? I don't really know since I always had desktops. It's more that they are more fiddly than a desktop... if I want to remove one thing, there's a 90% chance I have to remove 6 other things first also the fact that laptop GPUs are all integrated as standard (unlike desktops where they can be removed and switched out), I'm really hoping that it's merely a software issue, because if my graphics card itself is fried/frying it means the only other option is to get a new computer... which I have nowhere near enough money for... hell... I don't have enough money to get my laptop checked at a store! Also I highly doubt they'd do anything I haven't already tried... But the main problem is how long I've been wrestling with this problem... it started early this month, and got better-ish... (I was able to get past CC in ME:A finally) but I only got on average 50mins gametime before a crash... now though, the entire screen locks up the second I open chrome after startup I won't give up on it though, I CAN DO THIS
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 20, 2017 18:21:42 GMT
Yikes that's messed up, I'm sorry. Are laptops harder to fix? I don't really know since I always had desktops. It's more that they are more fiddly than a desktop... if I want to remove one thing, there's a 90% chance I have to remove 6 other things first also the fact that laptop GPUs are all integrated as standard (unlike desktops where they can be removed and switched out), I'm really hoping that it's merely a software issue, because if my graphics card itself is fried/frying it means the only other option is to get a new computer... which I have nowhere near enough money for... hell... I don't have enough money to get my laptop checked at a store! Also I highly doubt they'd do anything I haven't already tried... But the main problem is how long I've been wrestling with this problem... it started early this month, and got better-ish... (I was able to get past CC in ME:A finally) but I only got on average 50mins gametime before a crash... now though, the entire screen locks up the second I open chrome after startup I won't give up on it though, I CAN DO THIS Yes you can! I believe in you. But really, that sucks so I feel for you. I'm in a position myself right now that if my GPU or anything else went out that I can't really afford to fix it at the moment.
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Post by theratpack55 on Jun 20, 2017 18:27:47 GMT
That would have been a really interesting twist, I'd love that! Admittedly, my cynical side suspects the "Reyes can't die" thing may just be BW's way of avoiding the "but I was romancing him and chose to shoot him and that made him dead?! BW is stupid and homophobic!" kind of backlash that the tunglr crowd is prone to give. But I hope they do have more in store and that it does end up something like you're suggesting, it would have tied up some loose ends nicely! Reyes was made for females, so I would more like sexist than homophobic considered the romances for females often end up dead or cheating. I feel like they have a plan for him in the DLC, which is why we couldn't kill him. They could very well follow the Udina's route where regardless of your decision, Reyes would still be the ruler. I think Reyes was always intended to bisexual. The manner in which (and how well) BW implemented the m/f routes is another matter, and another can of worms. But you're right, his death would have annoyed both sides of the romance fandom, no matter how justified it was due to player choice. I just really hate people complaining (often loudly) about consequences of choices that were perfectly avoidable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 18:31:30 GMT
I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! That would have been a really interesting twist, I'd love that! Admittedly, my cynical side suspects the "Reyes can't die" thing may just be BW's way of avoiding the "but I was romancing him and chose to shoot him and that made him dead?! BW is stupid and homophobic!" kind of backlash that the tunglr crowd is prone to give. But I hope they do have more in store and that it does end up with something like you're suggesting, it would have tied up some loose ends nicely! I just love that Jaal is jealous and wary of Reyes even if you don't romance him, and I headcanon it's partly why he hates Kadara so much haha he wants Ryder to notice him, also I think Reyes' role was short because they do have plans for him in the future. Nothing BW does is without purpose in the end.
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I hope that means Scott gets an email too!
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jun 20, 2017 18:37:32 GMT
I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! For god's sake please no. It would make all the sense and all, and Reyes tied to the main plot would be lovely, but not in this way. He's really not the only one in Andromeda who could have done that, he sort of claims to have been nobody before Andromeda which kind of rules out a Benefactor agent (unles she was an unwilling Benefactor agent during the mutiny, perhaps), Also, I may be reading too much into that and stuff can change, but in the dance scene where he says something like "there's a lot of stuff you don't know about me" he doesn't sound especially hinting at something horrible. More like "and did you know I like dogs?" revelation than "by the way, I killed Garson, such fun..." He could know about the murder or the Benefactor though, that would also count as important enough to keep him alive.
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I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! For god's sake please no. It would make all the sense and all, and Reyes tied to the main plot would be lovely, but not in this way. He's really not the only one in Andromeda who could have done that, he sort of claims to have been nobody before Andromeda which kind of rules out a Benefactor agent (unles she was an unwilling Benefactor agent, perhaps), Also, I may be reading too much into that and stuff can change, but in the dance scene where he says something like "there's a lot of stuff you don't know about me" he doesn't sound especially hinting at something horrible. More like "and did you know I like dogs?" revelation than "by the way, I killed Garson, such fun..." He could know about the murder or the Benefactor though, that would also count as important enough to keep him alive. Not if he was told to kill her, thinking she was going to betray everyone, then realizes he murdered someone innocent and the Benefactor tricked him. The Benefactor is likely a very good manipulator, and for some odd reason, predicted the Reapers without knowing of the Reapers. Kind makes me wonder if the Benefactor is indeed an AI.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Jun 20, 2017 18:44:14 GMT
Reyes was made for females, so I would more like sexist than homophobic considered the romances for females often end up dead or cheating. I feel like they have a plan for him in the DLC, which is why we couldn't kill him. They could very well follow the Udina's route where regardless of your decision, Reyes would still be the ruler. I think Reyes was always intended to bisexual. The manner in which (and how well) BW implemented the m/f routes is another matter, and another can of worms. But you're right, his death would have annoyed both sides of the romance fandom, no matter how justified it was due to player choice. I just really hate people complaining (often loudly) about consequences of choices that were perfectly avoidable. I honestly wouldn't complain. I don't mind characters dying as long as it's for legitimate reasons. It's way less annoying to have them survive than Lelianna reattached her head then joined the sequel. Reyes was made for females first is one of the complains which led to the fix to gay romance. When it was first release, Scott was staring at the ceiling while dancing with Reyes due to the original model Sara being shorter, the dance also looks very awkward and less fluid which use a lot of camera to cover it up, then during their first kiss, Scott sways his hip to the side the same manner as Sara, and of course Vetra calling Scott "Reyes' queen". There were a lot of fixing that went into Scott and Reyes during the patches they did later which fixed Reyes and Scott. I think it's a tradition for Bioware to make bisexual characters with the opposite gender first. With Kaidan, they are basically using all of femShep's cutscenes, cut down any feminine movements in Shepard instead of replacing it, making the scene shorter for maleShep and less intimacy, on top of Kaidan only talking about his attraction to females. Peebee's scene where she rides an invisible dick. It's always the case with Bioware whenever they make bisexual characters. This is why I see them as playsexual. I see Jaal as the FIRST bisexual male character simply because they made it with both males and females in mind. They don't just make the entire romance scenes for the opposite sex before modifying later for the same sex. Jaal reacts to males and females differently. He has different scenes and different dynamic in relationship between males and females. He acknowledges the gender of the person who he's wooing.
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Post by theratpack55 on Jun 20, 2017 18:45:08 GMT
I strongly believe Reyes is tied to the murder of Jien and the Benefactor is hunting him. How I see it is, the Benefactor eliminated Jien (ordering Reyes to do it), so they could not be revealed, and Alec would have been next, but since he died, now Reyes would be the final loose end to tie up, which is why he can't die if you shoot him, and is always hiding in the shadows even after Sloane is dead. I think both Jaal and Liam (who have great instincts) fear for Ryder's safety because they feel something's not right with Reyes. I hope we learn more in a DLC. Tying Reyes into the main plot and having him get a bigger role will make my Reyes/Jaal romance run a lot more interesting! For god's sake please no. It would make all the sense and all, and Reyes tied to the main plot would be lovely, but not in this way. He's really not the only one in Andromeda who could have done that, he sort of claims to have been nobody before Andromeda which kind of rules out a Benefactor agent (unles she was an unwilling Benefactor agent, perhaps), Also, I may be reading too much into that and stuff can change, but in the dance scene where he says something like "there's a lot of stuff you don't know about me" he doesn't sound especially hinting at something horrible. More like "and did you know I like dogs?" revelation than "by the way, I killed Garson, such fun..." He could know about the murder or the Benefactor though, that would also count as important enough to keep him alive. Personally, I like my LIs as horrible as they can get, so I'd be all over that. But if it makes you feel any better, BW has been moving away from letting players romance genuine bad guys, so the chances of Reyes being actually nice and helpful to the Initiative are pretty high.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 20, 2017 18:51:16 GMT
For god's sake please no. It would make all the sense and all, and Reyes tied to the main plot would be lovely, but not in this way. He's really not the only one in Andromeda who could have done that, he sort of claims to have been nobody before Andromeda which kind of rules out a Benefactor agent (unles she was an unwilling Benefactor agent, perhaps), Also, I may be reading too much into that and stuff can change, but in the dance scene where he says something like "there's a lot of stuff you don't know about me" he doesn't sound especially hinting at something horrible. More like "and did you know I like dogs?" revelation than "by the way, I killed Garson, such fun..." He could know about the murder or the Benefactor though, that would also count as important enough to keep him alive. Personally, I like my LIs as horrible as they can get, so I'd be all over that. But if it makes you feel any better, BW has been moving away from letting players romance genuine bad guys, so the chances of Reyes being actually nice and helpful to the Initiative are pretty high. How? The last game they released literally has an LI that wants to destroy the world and all those who live in it.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jun 20, 2017 18:52:10 GMT
Not if he was told to kill her, thinking she was going to betray everyone, then realizes he murdered someone innocent and the Benefactor tricked him. The Benefactor is likely a very good manipulator, and for some odd reason, predicted the Reapers without knowing of the Reapers. Kind makes me wonder if the Benefactor is indeed an AI. Yeah, but why him specifically? Could've been anyone on the Nexus. There's no reason.. well, none that we can see yet. Would an AI predict something of the reaper scale? That would have to be an AI dangerously similar to the Catalyst... Buuut, what if it's an AI indeed, the one in ME1 that was so desperately looking for credits to move away? theratpack55 Don't mistake me, I'm totally fine with bad guys. But I don't like the idea of one shady guy being all the explanations in Andromeda
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 20, 2017 18:53:03 GMT
Disclaimer: Hey guys, I know I'm not around much anymore, but the truth is, I'm not playing the game much anymore, so I have little to say on-topic (maybe if dlc happens?). But I do miss you all! It's funny that the romance I would probably be most into is the one being side-eyed by all the other romance options lol... I mean, I still appreciate Jaal and I definitely enjoyed his romance, but now that I know the whole story and how the romances play out, I have to admit I'd definitely choose Reyes as my 'canon' option, if only the romance was a little bit more fleshed out and if there was a proper sex scene. Maybe I'm just a horndog, but it's honestly kind of important to me, it seems. The fact that there isn't one means that I'm just not willing to do all the tedious stuff prerequisite to actually completing that questline, for the payoff it offers. Again, Jaal's romance was lovely! I'm happy I spent the time I did on it. I'm just a bit disappointed that the kind of romance sidequests I'm apparently really into get relegated to 'minor' content in most games, and wondering if I'll get a romance I'll really dig ever again. Sorry, I don't mean to whine, I just needed to get some of those a-while-post-playing thoughts off my chest. I hope there's a lot more romance content coming in dlcs! Yeah I wish some of the other romances got the same treatment as Jaal with a nice romance scene (optional for those who don't want it), especially Gil, Reyes and suvi. Also, wanting a romance scene really doesn't make you a horndog and if it does I guess I am too lol. They might as well, since all of them were meant to be seen that way anyway.
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Post by bloodofthefirst on Jun 20, 2017 18:55:54 GMT
Personally, I like my LIs as horrible as they can get, so I'd be all over that. But if it makes you feel any better, BW has been moving away from letting players romance genuine bad guys, so the chances of Reyes being actually nice and helpful to the Initiative are pretty high. How? The last game they released literally has an LI that wants to destroy the world and all those who live in it. They specifically didn't want to make a bi Solas because it plays into evil gay trope or "depraved bisexual".
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 20, 2017 18:57:22 GMT
How? The last game they released literally has an LI that wants to destroy the world and all those who live in it. They specifically didn't want to make a bi Solas because it plays into evil gay trope or "depraved bisexual". I know, but he is still a romance option for players who play as a female elf.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 18:58:40 GMT
Not if he was told to kill her, thinking she was going to betray everyone, then realizes he murdered someone innocent and the Benefactor tricked him. The Benefactor is likely a very good manipulator, and for some odd reason, predicted the Reapers without knowing of the Reapers. Kind makes me wonder if the Benefactor is indeed an AI. Yeah, but why him specifically? Could've been anyone on the Nexus. There's no reason.. well, none that we can see yet. Would an AI predict something of the reaper scale? That would have to be an AI dangerously similar to the Catalyst... Buuut, what if it's an AI indeed, the one in ME1 that was so desperately looking for credits to move away? theratpack55 Don't mistake me, I'm totally fine with bad guys. But I don't like the idea of one shady guy being all the explanations in Andromeda Reyes is nobody. Just a random guy chosen, then he becomes someone after the Uprising. Ryder just happens to meet him and fate brings them together in a way never expected. However his constant need to hide in the shadows makes me think that since the AI is indeed alive and well and we have a colony on Kadara now, Reyes can't been seen because of what might have happened on the Nexus. Also Jaal's visor is a biometric reader too, so his distrust of Reyes would be due to him knowing he's hiding something or from something. All speculation, but I'm just trying to piece together the things we learned in-game, and Reyes is the big missing puzzle piece that doesn't seem to fit, yet feels like he should. The irony of the Andromeda Initiative being called the AI is also amusing if an AI did create it lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 19:02:02 GMT
OMG cuteness! I just did the scene with Thaldyr and after we talked about her being devoted to Akksul, and now we have more reason to save the Moshae, Jaal says "let's go" and them gives Ryder the sweetest smile. I never noticed that before!
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Post by theratpack55 on Jun 20, 2017 19:02:54 GMT
I think Reyes was always intended to bisexual. The manner in which (and how well) BW implemented the m/f routes is another matter, and another can of worms. But you're right, his death would have annoyed both sides of the romance fandom, no matter how justified it was due to player choice. I just really hate people complaining (often loudly) about consequences of choices that were perfectly avoidable. I honestly wouldn't complain. I don't mind characters dying as long as it's for legitimate reasons. It's way less annoying to have them survive than Lelianna reattached her head then joined the sequel. Reyes was made for females first is one of the complains which led to the fix to gay romance. When it was first release, Scott was staring at the ceiling while dancing with Reyes due to the original model Sara being shorter, the dance also looks very awkward and less fluid which use a lot of camera to cover it up, then during their first kiss, Scott sways his hip to the side the same manner as Sara, and of course Vetra calling Scott "Reyes' queen". There were a lot of fixing that went into Scott and Reyes during the patches they did later which fixed Reyes and Scott. I think it's a tradition for Bioware to make bisexual characters with the opposite gender first. With Kaidan, they are basically using all of femShep's cutscenes, cut down any feminine movements in Shepard instead of replacing it, making the scene shorter for maleShep and less intimacy, on top of Kaidan only talking about his attraction to females. Peebee's scene where she rides an invisible dick. It's always the case with Bioware whenever they make bisexual characters. This is why I see them as playsexual. I see Jaal as the FIRST bisexual male character simply because they made it with both males and females in mind. They don't just make the entire romance scenes for the opposite sex before modifying later for the same sex. Jaal reacts to males and females differently. He has different scenes and different dynamic in relationship between males and females. He acknowledges the gender of the person who he's wooing. Oh, I'm aware of all that, which is why I said it's another can of worms. It's just that I was addressing a particular issue with Reyes' romance that wasn't necessarily tied to the 'sexual preference' one. That one is still there all right. And obviously, while they added special scenes for Jaal's m/m romance, those were not intended to be there at all, which is part of the issue overall. It's another iteration of the Kaidan m/m romance, implemented better (if late), but still something that should have been there from the start, rather than being added "due to fan demand" in the 3rd game/a patch. Lol, sorry, that was not my point. My point was, if you're allowed to shoot Reyes, let him die from it. If you can behead Leliana, don't bring her back in future games, that's the kind of thing that annoys me. Let players deal with their choices, that's what I'm actually looking for in an RPG.
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