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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 9, 2017 14:14:47 GMT
Let's count aliens... Straight women had turian, drell, angara. Lez women had turian and asari. Bi women had shitton of aliens. Guess how much gay men had? Sorry, not sharing anymore. Sharing is not caring at this point. I may be petty, but if being bi ruins Jaal's character then with next male alien being bi will ruing his integrity too, bc he'll be the gayest gay. You can keep Jaal, np, his level of obsession is borderline creepy. I'm taking Evfra. :sure: I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off.
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Post by themikefest on May 9, 2017 14:17:06 GMT
It would be interesting to see what the fans, not only on this forum, but elsewhere as well, what the reaction would be if in the next game, the characters that are not squadmates get the same amount of content as the squadmates got in MEA while the squadmates get the same amount of content as the characters who were not squadmates? I would be all for it. Obviously I'm talking about romance content.
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Let's count aliens... Straight women had turian, drell, angara. Lez women had turian and asari. Bi women had shitton of aliens. Guess how much gay men had? Sorry, not sharing anymore. Sharing is not caring at this point. I may be petty, but if being bi ruins Jaal's character then with next male alien being bi will ruing his integrity too, bc he'll be the gayest gay. You can keep Jaal, np, his level of obsession is borderline creepy. I'm taking Evfra. :sure: I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. It's very sad. We've got Avitus, Kandros and Evfra all gay men just waiting to be upgraded to squadmates.
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Post by coldchrome on May 9, 2017 14:17:59 GMT
Let's count aliens... Straight women had turian, drell, angara. Lez women had turian and asari. Bi women had shitton of aliens. Guess how much gay men had? Sorry, not sharing anymore. Sharing is not caring at this point. I may be petty, but if being bi ruins Jaal's character then with next male alien being bi will ruing his integrity too, bc he'll be the gayest gay. You can keep Jaal, np, his level of obsession is borderline creepy. I'm taking Evfra. :sure: I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. I think LEsbians and gay dudes never had a only gay/bi Allien now that I think of it (dudes didn't have a bi Allien) Raeka (can't really think of more female alliens atm LOL) as female only interrest and Evfra/Avitus/Drack as only gay, Bioware do it
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 9, 2017 14:19:27 GMT
I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. It's very sad. We've got Avitus, Kandros and Evfra all gay men just waiting to be upgraded to squadmates. Come on, Bioware, you know what to do.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 9, 2017 14:25:43 GMT
I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. I think LEsbians and gay dudes never had a only gay/bi Allien now that I think of it (dudes didn't have a bi Allien) Raeka (can't really think of more female alliens atm LOL) as female only interrest and Evfra/Avitus/Drack as only gay, Bioware do it We had a lesbian alien squadmate, but she was only DLC and gets killed off no matter what. I mean, she's not romanceable either, but it's not like that matters as much in the face of the Bury Your Gays trope tbh. Raeka can die, and they usually don't bring back a character as a love interest if a lot of people's playthroughs have that character dead. Then again, there's Anders, so maybe they'll pull that with Raeka.
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Post by coldchrome on May 9, 2017 14:27:55 GMT
I think LEsbians and gay dudes never had a only gay/bi Allien now that I think of it (dudes didn't have a bi Allien) Raeka (can't really think of more female alliens atm LOL) as female only interrest and Evfra/Avitus/Drack as only gay, Bioware do it We had a lesbian alien squadmate, but she was only DLC and gets killed off no matter what. I mean, she's not romanceable either, but it's not like that matters as much in the face of the Bury Your Gays trope tbh. Raeka can die, and they usually don't bring back a character as a love interest if a lot of people's playthroughs have that character dead. Then again, there's Anders, so maybe they'll pull that with Raeka. That's really dissapointing tbh oh well it's something I guess. I mean I could see kinda doing, with her and Hayjer, what they did with Ash and Kaiden in ME2/3 where they give them kinda the same scenes but they are their own character and react on their own way.
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Post by Aurora on May 9, 2017 14:55:15 GMT
Thumbs up for that Saren mention, that is some fine taste in turians right there He was a beefy turian! I mean look at this :hearteyes: and his crazy ideals were appealing He is a cyborg too, 2x1 Saren was attractive in that evil way lol
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 9, 2017 14:58:46 GMT
Let's count aliens... Straight women had turian, drell, angara. Lez women had turian and asari. Bi women had shitton of aliens. Guess how much gay men had? Sorry, not sharing anymore. Sharing is not caring at this point. I may be petty, but if being bi ruins Jaal's character then with next male alien being bi will ruing his integrity too, bc he'll be the gayest gay. You can keep Jaal, np, his level of obsession is borderline creepy. I'm taking Evfra. :sure: I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. Nah, he should be Bi. Evfra is gay..Its the law, basically. (Kandros too?? idk, I dont acre for male Turians, I'm more into the ladies there :sure: , so please, take kandros )
Your headcanon is yours? nobody can take that away? I hope jaal stops spinning then because doing anything with him will be a techical nightmare unless you bind him somewhere so he cant roll off..)
but I'd at least hope you read what i wrote in these threads before you(THIS IS A GENERAL YOU. I'm too stupid to grok multiquote.. ) make assumptions about one stupid gif-filled jokeposting, please? :srs: :oki: (dont hurt my feelings by implying I'm a homophobe, pls ;_;)
gay aliens: yes. All of them.
Yeah, they should give us a gay Quarian? or a gay Drell.. I mean Thane and tali were planned as Bi too but, noo, cant have that because the str8 homophobe gamerbois will cry.. (which they do already because women that hate a bit of a butch hairstyle seems to be some sort of crime..
also.. well I dont really feel that a copy&pasted scene with PB that was clearly made for hetdude in mind foremost (like a lot in ME?) is such a great thing, but as you say, as a Bi human that has some equipment considered female, I'm used to getting some representation from ME.. Sadly PB suffers from everything most BI-charas suffer.. Hiding "the gay", but showing het attraction ....and showing toxic same sex relationships
Reyes has his female Ex, Bull talks about women... Leliana had a relationship to a super abusive, murderous woman we possibly kill.. the same for PB.. So the same sex-relationships the Bi women have are toxic and unhealthy..
I think Liara is the only example and before shep meets her it seems like her work was the only relevant thing in her life.. zevran? Okay, seems like he had a triad with Ralieesen and Rinna, but they are tasked with killing her and after that taliesen is tasked with killing Zevran..
so all in all super unhealthy. Its a bit sad that Sera, Suvi and Traynor seem the only two women who love women who arent in an unhealthy relationship? And all are gay so no option "lets hide the bi unless they are sexy..(okay.. suvi was almost.. THANK YOU SHERYL ) or male because that could be icky to straight homophobe dudes, because those matter..) (and I still dont et why gil lets himself be shat on my Jil, but some people seem to perform verbal shittiness as a way of bonding...)
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Post by zambixi on May 9, 2017 15:30:57 GMT
I think LEsbians and gay dudes never had a only gay/bi Allien now that I think of it (dudes didn't have a bi Allien) Raeka (can't really think of more female alliens atm LOL) as female only interrest and Evfra/Avitus/Drack as only gay, Bioware do it We had a lesbian alien squadmate, but she was only DLC and gets killed off no matter what. I mean, she's not romanceable either, but it's not like that matters as much in the face of the Bury Your Gays trope tbh. Raeka can die, and they usually don't bring back a character as a love interest if a lot of people's playthroughs have that character dead. Then again, there's Anders, so maybe they'll pull that with Raeka. We don't see Raeka die, it's just heavily implied. That gives BW the ability to bring her back without it being the weirdest retcon ever. I'd personally prefer they just introduce a new character, though. The fact that she can "die," and that they'd have to shove both potential world states into one path... BW doesn't always do great with bringing back characters (side-characters or companions); I'd rather they just start with a clean slate.
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 9, 2017 15:37:18 GMT
I hate that I have to choose because shes super cool, but I hate fighting Krogan behemoths.. they hit pretty hard. But I would feel weird about salarians because they seem canonical asexual.. So.. an asexual romance would be cool, BUT i dont want give BW some excuse to not delover more gay stuff.. Like I dont want them to give us a gay salarian so they can have the easy way out and dont have to risk to confront the homophobes in their playerbase wit gay sex, you get what i mean? So i would love Raeka as a gay LI, but not as THE, but then as an addition.. oh btw.. something funny I found. Here in germany you can get Tea that is made by a company, named Suvi.. found that one shopping, its quite precious..
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 9, 2017 15:37:31 GMT
We had a lesbian alien squadmate, but she was only DLC and gets killed off no matter what. I mean, she's not romanceable either, but it's not like that matters as much in the face of the Bury Your Gays trope tbh. Raeka can die, and they usually don't bring back a character as a love interest if a lot of people's playthroughs have that character dead. Then again, there's Anders, so maybe they'll pull that with Raeka. We don't see Raeka die, it's just heavily implied. That gives BW the ability to bring her back without it being the weirdest retcon ever. I'd personally prefer they just introduce a new character, though. The fact that she can "die," and that they'd have to shove both potential world states into one path... BW doesn't always do great with bringing back characters (side-characters or companions); I'd rather they just start with a clean slate. Yeah, if they finally give us a lesbian squadmate in a full game, it'd be for the best to make a new character.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 9, 2017 15:50:48 GMT
I'd be fine with Jaal being straight if they gave us a plot important gay male alien squadmate who isn't killed off. Nah, he should be Bi. Evfra is gay..Its the law, basically. (Kandros too?? idk, I dont acre for male Turians, I'm more into the ladies there :sure: , so please, take kandros )
Your headcanon is yours? nobody can take that away? I hope jaal stops spinning then because doing anything with him will be a techical nightmare unless you bind him somewhere so he cant roll off..)
but I'd at least hope you read what i wrote in these threads before you(THIS IS A GENERAL YOU. I'm too stupid to grok multiquote.. ) make assumptions about one stupid gif-filled jokeposting, please? :srs: :oki: (dont hurt my feelings by implying I'm a homophobe, pls ;_;)
gay aliens: yes. All of them.
Yeah, they should give us a gay Quarian? or a gay Drell.. I mean Thane and tali were planned as Bi too but, noo, cant have that because the str8 homophobe gamerbois will cry.. (which they do already because women that hate a bit of a butch hairstyle seems to be some sort of crime..
also.. well I dont really feel that a copy&pasted scene with PB that was clearly made for hetdude in mind foremost (like a lot in ME?) is such a great thing, but as you say, as a Bi human that has some equipment considered female, I'm used to getting some representation from ME.. Sadly PB suffers from everything most BI-charas suffer.. Hiding "the gay", but showing het attraction ....and showing toxic same sex relationships
Reyes has his female Ex, Bull talks about women... Leliana had a relationship to a super abusive, murderous woman we possibly kill.. the same for PB.. So the same sex-relationships the Bi women have are toxic and unhealthy..
I think Liara is the only example and before shep meets her it seems like her work was the only relevant thing in her life.. zevran? Okay, seems like he had a triad with Ralieesen and Rinna, but they are tasked with killing her and after that taliesen is tasked with killing Zevran..
so all in all super unhealthy. Its a bit sad that Sera, Suvi and Traynor seem the only two women who love women who arent in an unhealthy relationship? And all are gay so no option "lets hide the bi unless they are sexy..(okay.. suvi was almost.. THANK YOU SHERYL ) or male because that could be icky to straight homophobe dudes, because those matter..) (and I still dont et why gil lets himself be shat on my Jil, but some people seem to perform verbal shittiness as a way of bonding...)
In terms of ex relationships, it makes me wonder if Bioware has a hard time conceiving of a happy, stable same gender relationship in someone's past. Hell, even Sera implies in one line that she's had some shitty relationships in the past. The only exception to this rule was arguably Anders's thing with Karl, but players don't even learn about Karl unless they play Male Hawke. Maybe they assume that if the character had a happy past relationship that they wouldn't be open to a new relationship and would just be stuck on wanting their past relationship back? I have no clue. I think that issue would be fixed if they had an important nonromanceable LGBT character in a happy same gender relationship no matter what. (Like, with what you said before, I just found it kind of condescending. I don't see people going into the Vetra thread to remind certain users to share and not be shit to gay fans. I just see people reminding gay fans to hypothetically share, when we don't get much (if anything) to begin with esp people looking for m/m. I guess I'm just trigger happy because of some forum drama lately, so I'm quick to get annoyed if something reminds me of it )
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 9, 2017 15:55:03 GMT
What Raeka has going for her is that as far as I remember, there wasn't a corpse, or if, we didn't see it in too much detail. Kett could have easily kept her alive to study if they really want to bring her back. I think I need the Evfra romance for anthropological reasons (aside from personal gain /cough). Avera's romance is really too short to say much about angara behaviour, but I would like to know if even someone as terminally grumpy as Evfra would start writing e-mails that start out with my heart, my stars, my sun and moon, or whatever it was Jaal said. Is that normal for them, like is that the baseline tone angara would expect when they have a lover, like a human would maybe expect a standard nickname? Would someone more reserved like Evfra write a love letter that looks quite normal to a human and then add that he knows he comes off as cold? Come on, Bioware, make Evfra romanceable, for men since we're lacking in that department. It's for the good of the lore! If he were gay, he might also be another one in the books on the "Doesn't Make Sense" (TM) sides of gay characters, next to Avitus, being a tactician, militia leader, and a very abrasive person. I mean, I assume that's what someone whose gayness "wouldn't make sense" looks like, basing it on stupid stereotypes for homosexual men. But actually, I don't even know because I still have no idea what that statement really means, in regards to Cullen (which is where I think it was originally made?) or anyone. Maybe it "didn't make sense" for Cullen because it was sort of implied he may have had a crush on the Female Mage Warden origin ten thousand years ago? But not on the Male Mage Warden? Which is a great reason to say someone can't be bisexual, of course. Evfra would probably also have a dead husband, but at least that one would be a decade dead and hopefully not the main drama source in the scenes leading up to the romance because it's not like he doesn't have anything else going on in his life. Just let Evfra send you to a labour camp that has shields only SAM can crack and recover old archive data on exaltation and experimentation specimen there. Then he can tell you something like: "We studied the data. This is where my family was brought, too. My mothers, my siblings, my husband, my children... I at least know what became of them now. It's not something anyone wants to read, but it's better than not knowing, for me and many others." Interest in men established. Or if that's too complicated, Jaal could mention that XY on Voeld is the colony Evfra used to live at with his husband in some comment. I think I'm really just fanficcing the gay Evfra romance right now because I know it won't happen but I just think it would be interesting and he's a good character to develop further. Give me two more weeks without a patch and I'm probably going to have all the dialogues written out - with multiple flirt choices, too. Hey, I don't have to pay for voice actors in my imagination.
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Post by wright1978 on May 9, 2017 15:55:49 GMT
Unless they really want to route of an a-sexual only romance i can't see a salarian romance as being likely.
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Post by moderately incensed firmicute on May 9, 2017 15:58:37 GMT
Yeah, I'm sorry, that wasnt intended at all. I tried to make it obvious with those gifs and smileys and stuff, but its easy to misread one another .. didnt mean to shit on anyone, If I did, i'm sorry, I'll try to word more careful.
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Post by Steelcan on May 9, 2017 16:09:11 GMT
Unless they really want to route of an a-sexual only romance i can't see a salarian romance as being likely. they let us romance an alien who could very well die if there was contact between her ans Shepard, a salarian isn't off the table
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 16:31:16 GMT
I CAN JUST IMAGINE THEM SCOURING THE EXTRANET LOOKING FOR SEDUCTION TIPS. cute. He had me at "No Data Available" tbh. Let's count aliens... Straight women had turian, drell, angara. Lez women had turian and asari. Bi women had shitton of aliens. Guess how much gay men had? Sorry, not sharing anymore. Sharing is not caring at this point. I may be petty, but if being bi ruins Jaal's character then with next male alien being bi will ruing his integrity too, bc he'll be the gayest gay. You can keep Jaal, np, his level of obsession is borderline creepy. I'm taking Evfra. :sure: I do think there should be a gay alien before any more bisexual male aliens are added. My preference would be Avitus or Evfra and then a bi Kandros. But I would be fine with a gay Kandros also. I love the idea of him becoming an LI because I am turian trash, he doesn't have the recent baggage Avitus does, and they have his VA come in all the time for MP. At the same time he would probably never be a squadmate so... I would rather men get an exclusive squadie if they add it in DLC form *hopefully free with deluxe+. (I say this all the time but I would rather us just share all the LI but that is probably never going to happen again... I can dream for equal content...) If I was feeling super greedy I would say give me a Gay Dunn. I already saw one thread of the dudes begging them not to do that.
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Post by kestrel on May 9, 2017 16:50:26 GMT
I'm on the gay Evfra boat- I think he would be the easiest to incorporate into a potential companion.
And then gay Avitus (obviously, though I think he would need time to just be sad) and bi Kandros (because I'm selfish and awful.)
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Post by coldchrome on May 9, 2017 16:52:13 GMT
I'm on the gay Evfra boat- I think he would be the easiest to incorporate into a potential companion. And then gay Avitus (obviously, though I think he would need time to just be sad) and bi Kandros (because I'm selfish and awful.) Don't worry, as a person who is also Turian Trash, everyone deserves a Turian in their life, Turian trash is best trash
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Post by dmc1001 on May 9, 2017 16:53:13 GMT
I'm on the gay Evfra boat- I think he would be the easiest to incorporate into a potential companion. And then gay Avitus (obviously, though I think he would need time to just be sad) and bi Kandros (because I'm selfish and awful.) If MEA2 is set one or more years after MEA1, Avitus would be perfect. That time is plenty to mourn and think about moving on.
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Post by Artemis on May 9, 2017 17:12:20 GMT
Do you think there are even any (out) gay men in the studio? How hard is it, if you're a clueless straight guy and you've been called out on it, as MEA team have, to pull over the gay guy and say, can you check out this scene? Or look over this dialogue? What do you think?
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 9, 2017 17:14:05 GMT
Any news?
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Post by Salty Drell on May 9, 2017 17:20:09 GMT
Do you think there are even any (out) gay men in the studio? How hard is it, if you're a clueless straight guy and you've been called out on it, as MEA team have, to pull over the gay guy and say, can you check out this scene? Or look over this dialogue? What do you think? I look at the game and I think, no, there cannot be an out gay guy at that studio. If there is, then they must ignore him alot and not ask for his input on shit, that would be sad.
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