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Post by Gilsa on May 13, 2017 2:50:20 GMT
Can I just say that while I like Liam his character probably rubs people the wrong because he acts differently one scene to another. From threatening to kill Peebee for running into Ryder to making a compassionate speech about bringing the Exiles back into the fold, the guy is all over the place. The fact he's also pretty much the embodiment of MEA's "younger and less inexperienced" tone is also going to piss people off because Liam making childish jokes and emotional flipping out constantly makes players think he's more of a liability that doesn't deserve to be part of the Pathfinder crew. And worse about Liam is unlike other Lukas Kristjanson characters like Carver and Sera there really isn't a good explanation why he acts the way he does. Carver was a farmboy that spent his entire in Hawke's shadow and Sera is an elf in Thedas whose biggest role models were vengeful peasants that killed nobles that abused them, so both of them being really emotional fucked up makes a lot of sense, while Liam the ex-cop and crisis specialist with no family issues does not. The fact that he makes the almost exact same "peace, exploration, discovery and finding my place" speeches that Cora, Vetra, Jaal and Peebee do doesn't help make him distinct from all the other squadmates either. I think Liam might also be at a further disadvantage with the overall writing. Like you said, he pulled a gun on Peebee, but if he's not in that scene, it's Cora that pulls the gun. Someone is going to pull the gun there and because Liam has the higher priority over Cora in that scene, it usually falls to him. I ran Liam through the salarian mission with all the companions and I noticed that based on how the game prioritizes them, one person will do the "complaining" while the other does the "reacting." For some reason, Liam has higher priority than everyone except Cora in the "complaining." If Cora is in the group with him, she is the complainer, saying the exact same things he says. Liam was very consistent on my first game because I only brought him out on missions. I didn't drive around in the Nomad with him and didn't understand the complaints about his banter until my second game. There's a big disconnect between Tempest Liam and Nomad Liam. I have no idea what happened there.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on May 13, 2017 2:55:33 GMT
Uh. I really do hate when characters are essentially hijacked to fulfill some requirement of the plot even though its completely against their character. Makes them feel all interchangeable when that happens.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 13, 2017 3:00:19 GMT
Nothing like flirting with your companion's father. And here I am still playing SWTOR, hoping that Jace becomes a romance option. Guy is too by the book and doesn't really react to the two flirts. But the Iokath storyline is JUST starting so I'm thinking that he'll become available in the future, same with his Empire counterpart Empress Acina, you can flirt with her a few times so I'm thinking that both of them will become options in the future. I dunno how much effort they'll put forth to characters that can die at the end of the Iokath stuff. Also, flirting with Jace with Theron in the party if you've romanced him is just weird and kind of strange they made you take him. Since I highly doubt it'll go anywhere, I'm inclined to just call it screwing with Theron in the process - "Hey, Theron, your Dad's hot." "Please no." "Like if I weren't already with you..." "By the Force, please stop talking." "I'm just saying, I wouldn't mind going home with him." "Lana, is there a Sith fleet I can go fight single-handedly? That'd be less traumatizing..."
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 3:02:55 GMT
I think Liam might also be at a further disadvantage with the overall writing. Like you said, he pulled a gun on Peebee, but if he's not in that scene, it's Cora that pulls the gun. Someone is going to pull the gun there and because Liam has the higher priority over Cora in that scene, it usually falls to him. I ran Liam through the salarian mission with all the companions and I noticed that based on how the game prioritizes them, one person will do the "complaining" while the other does the "reacting." For some reason, Liam has higher priority than everyone except Cora in the "complaining." If Cora is in the group with him, she is the complainer, saying the exact same things he says. Liam was very consistent on my first game because I only brought him out on missions. I didn't drive around in the Nomad with him and didn't understand the complaints about his banter until my second game. There's a big disconnect between Tempest Liam and Nomad Liam. I have no idea what happened there. This follower prioritizing is common. DAI plays out that way as well. I've noticed that if I bring both Dorian and Solas along on certain quests, Solas will take priority over Dorian if there are magey things. I can't have that, so off Solas goes. (I don't know what happens with Vivienne, as I've never brought her anywhere regularly.)
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 13, 2017 3:15:02 GMT
That is a writing choice that will continue to confuse me for a while still. I have a feeling Gaider shipped it pretty hard, although he didn't quite say that back when he was asked about it on his tumblr. But from his answer, I certainly I think the relationship interested him more than that between either of them and the Inquisitor, at least from a writing perspective. Because I'm spiteful and petty, I just never let them be in the same party together if I romance someone else, which keeps their romance from triggering. But actually, I just pretend to be romancing Varric most of the time anyway ( ) and thus the game keeps them free for me until the end, which also means no Adoribull. i always romance one of them so they are allowed in the party together but if i weren't', they probably wouldn't be. and that's solely because of the epilogue and cheesy banters in trespasser. i'm salty at how more open and affectionate they are about each other -.- I don't really know what to think about that. I wasn't crazy about the option on my one male Hawke play where I romanced him. The fem version has Hawke say something about his marks being painful (since, ya know, they just had sex and touched a bunch). DG also said that he wrote Fenris with a male Hawke in mind. But again, I don't really know what to think about that particular line. I know this wasn't to me, but as far as Dorian/Bull goes, and DG's treatment of that, one factor is the great enjoyment that both he and Patrick Weekes got out of writing the pairing together, because they're friends. This is reflective not only in outside comments they've made, but in how it plays out in the game itself. didn't gaider also said their relationship is not necessarily healthy? which was before trespasser and hordes of fans triggered about abuse, bottom shaming and such? @berret , to multi-quote, hit the cog wheel on the top-right of the post you want and hit "select post." Do this with all the posts you want. When you're done, hit "more reply options" in the quick reply box, which will take you to the full reply page where your selected quotes will be. THANK YOU. i can't believe you posted this 10 seconds after i started looking for this very option. (sorry, I was backreading and this post was just easier to nab rather than multiquoting!) Yeah, back at...I want to say Gaymerx? Someone asked him who his DAI otp was and he said Dorian/Bull, so that definitely factored into the favoritism. It made me feel bad for the devoted Dorianmancers, to be honest. At least Weekes has always seemed really into Bull and his romance and never straight out said he preferred one over the other. I actually almost wondered if the amount of syrupy-sweet content they got in Trespasser was a bit of a love letter to Gaider, one friend to another, since it was the first DA content they did after Gaider had left. You know, kind of one last indulgence in this particular thing they had lot of fun writing together. Still, I'll completely admit as a Bullmancer I wasn't too pleased with the disparity in content (and tbh I think Dorian/Bull is rife with a lot of very weird issues that never get addressed or satisfactorily remedied; it's safe to say I don't ship it, lol), but I never felt like they got the better ending, either. Dorian and Bull's relationship is intense, but not exactly stable given their situation at the end, where Bull and the Inquisitor are basically old marrieds and really solid. Like, Bull's romanced tarot is even the ten of coins, which is literally the embodiment of old marrieds - security, prosperity, and romantic constancy, a sure thing that's been carefully built to weather time and turmoil. I know people take issue with his romanced ending slide, but I don't think he literally takes the necklace and just fucks off forever. The dude is still the head of the Chargers and their whole schtick is being a a travelling merc band, so I figured the slide is alluding to his weeks out killing...I don't know. Bandits or whatever, before he heads home. I don't know, I wish we'd had more content and I'm definitely not immune to the salt when I'm feeling uncharitable, lol, but I never felt like Bull's romance was lesser? But ymmv. That said, if Bull/Dorian gets more content or mentions than either of their relationships with the Inquisitor in DA4...hooooo boy. Um...to bring this back around to ME4, wow, does that new casual outfit suck. And way to go Bioware, managing to "improve" Sara's face with a pound of makeup. Somehow I'm guessing Reyes and Scott's animations are still copypasted and janky as hell? Priorities, after all. Gotta make sure all those broRyder players find their sister sufficiently bangable, I guess.
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Post by Sifr on May 13, 2017 3:16:30 GMT
Uh. I really do hate when characters are essentially hijacked to fulfill some requirement of the plot even though its completely against their character. Makes them feel all interchangeable when that happens. Yeah, like how the squadmate who nearly gets whammied by the Prothean beacon in ME1 changes depending on your gender. Personally, I reckon it should have always been Kaidan, regardless of Shepard's gender. The squad would have needed to make sure that the Beacon was properly prepped for extraction and Kaidan probably is the most technically capable person on site. Ashley would have been made more sense to task with watching the perimeter for hostiles, since she knows the terrain best and has a lot of firepower to deal with any more unexpected surprises or Geth/Husk stragglers still lingering about.
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Post by cespar on May 13, 2017 3:19:27 GMT
Can I just say that while I like Liam his character probably rubs people the wrong because he acts differently one scene to another. From threatening to kill Peebee for running into Ryder to making a compassionate speech about bringing the Exiles back into the fold, the guy is all over the place. The fact he's also pretty much the embodiment of MEA's "younger and less inexperienced" tone is also going to piss people off because Liam making childish jokes and emotional flipping out constantly makes players think he's more of a liability that doesn't deserve to be part of the Pathfinder crew. And worse about Liam is unlike other Lukas Kristjanson characters like Carver and Sera there really isn't a good explanation why he acts the way he does. Carver was a farmboy that spent his entire in Hawke's shadow and Sera is an elf in Thedas whose biggest role models were vengeful peasants that killed nobles that abused them, so both of them being really emotional fucked up makes a lot of sense, while Liam the ex-cop and crisis specialist with no family issues does not. The fact that he makes the almost exact same "peace, exploration, discovery and finding my place" speeches that Cora, Vetra, Jaal and Peebee do doesn't help make him distinct from all the other squadmates either. I think Liam might also be at a further disadvantage with the overall writing. Like you said, he pulled a gun on Peebee, but if he's not in that scene, it's Cora that pulls the gun. Someone is going to pull the gun there and because Liam has the higher priority over Cora in that scene, it usually falls to him. I ran Liam through the salarian mission with all the companions and I noticed that based on how the game prioritizes them, one person will do the "complaining" while the other does the "reacting." For some reason, Liam has higher priority than everyone except Cora in the "complaining." If Cora is in the group with him, she is the complainer, saying the exact same things he says. Liam was very consistent on my first game because I only brought him out on missions. I didn't drive around in the Nomad with him and didn't understand the complaints about his banter until my second game. There's a big disconnect between Tempest Liam and Nomad Liam. I have no idea what happened there.The more I play, the more I think there's a connection between Tempest Liam and Nomad Liam. I explained in the Liam's thread. He's mostly trying to see if the team is really there to have the Pathfinder back while they're out in the field. Liam tries to learn the strength and weakness of the team, even if he may come off as a little bit rude towards them. But once the fighting banter are done with, he either respect or becomes friends with them.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on May 13, 2017 3:21:11 GMT
I don't think Liam was badly written, he just doesn't work for me. Sera didn't work for me, either. He also wrote Carver Hawke and Avaline. I have the same issues with Carver as I have with Liam. However, Carver's are mitigated by his age. Avaline is "just okay" for me. Perhaps I just don't click with his type of character. I did quite like In Your Heart Shall Burn, though, especially as Corypheus's big introduction in DAI. Honestly, Kristjanson is my least favorite of BioWare's writers, despite considering Carver and Aveline two of my favorite characters. It feels like he has a particular type of character that he can write well, but when he gets out of his wheelbarrow, like with Jacob, Sera, or Liam, when he's writing a character who is of a minority or nuerodivergent, he ends up falling back on some unpleasant stereotypes. TBH, after I read an interview back in January where he talked about how he 'always thought of Kaidan as bi' back during ME1. Considering that no one seemed willing to fight for bisexual Kaidan, and he hasn't handled a gay or bi male character since, I kinda get the impression he's got some element of 'I have gay friends, I can't be homophobic!' that he needs to work through. Like, leave him with a non-romanceable character, he seems to get a solid character. But when they're romance options, or they're not cis-straight white people, he seems to have a lot of difficulty getting things right. I dunno. I actually do like the characters he creates for the most part. I think his main strength, and arguably weakness, is that I don't think he cares if his characters are conventionally likable. They are what they are and tend to be more willing to get angry and confrontational with the player character. Aveline can flat out punch Hawke in the face if you get enough Rivarly points, Carver is always pissed off about something and Sera isn't going to change her opinion unless she wants to. For me personally I like that, and prefer it over Jacob and Liam's generic nice guy archetype, but I can see how it can get annoying. Jacob cheating on FShep was out of left field bullshit though.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 3:27:41 GMT
Yeah, back at...I want to say Gaymerx? Someone asked him who his DAI otp was and he said Dorian/Bull, so that definitely factored into the favoritism. I know about this. It adds to my salt, to be honest, even if it doesn't take away from the game's presentation of the Dorian romance for me. The question was about his OTP in general. First he said Maric/Loghain, then he specifically mentioned Dorian/Bull from DAI. Now I should be clear that I never in a million years would have expected him to say Inquisitor/Dorian. Or really, any of the PC/NPC romances that he's done. (I believe he has said that he liked Morrigan's friendship arc with fem Warden quite a bit.) I just wish he had kept that part of it to himself after answering "Maric/Loghain." It was disappointing, and yeah, it does make me feel that, as Dorian's writer, he personally values that romance over the one he wrote for the Inquisitor. It seems like he's never truly understood that the stuff he said about lore or his characters matter in a huge way, whether that's on Ye Olde BSN, at a con, on Tumblr or Twitter.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 13, 2017 3:38:32 GMT
It's an interesting concept, but I'm not sure it would work well in practice. What if, for instance, getting all planets to 100% Viability actually ended up costing you something during the final battle? It would frustrate a lot of people, and understandably so, simply because of the dozens of hours of real life time they would have put into it. It doesn't necessarily have to affect the final battle, though some acknowledgement would be nice. It could just as easily culminate at the game's mid point (for example, Horizon for ME2 or In Your Heart Shall Burn in Inquisition) or in a single arc. I recognize the need for the occasional Gameplay and Story Separation, but for me personally it's a huge immersion breaker for the player to always be outside time. This has bugged me ever since Elder Scrolls 4 , where Oblivion Gates would pop up everywhere, but you could take your time selling crafted items or fighting in the Arena. Not to mention how unsatisfying it is for the villain to just sit on their ass and wait for you. IYSB was one of the few times Corypheus showed competence by grabbing whoever I didn't pick (Mages or Templars) and actually reacted to my choices. It would have been nice if the game had provided some kind, any kind of in-story explanation as to why it couldn't happen in the next arc, since neither Erimond nor Florianne were using anyone that could have been wiped out in Haven's destruction. How can I get emotionally invested in some potentially world ending threat if the game gives me little reason to?
You make some good points. Though I think it might have more to do with the open world and the ratio of content in it to content in the main story. It means pacing, and therefore suspense, will be ruined. You're never out of time, because you're outside time. While I think this wasn't as much of an issue in ME:A as in DA:I, it was still an issue. I agree that it would be nice to have more suspense and emotional investment in general than we've had lately. There were very few times in ME:A where I was worried that a character would get killed/seriously injured. And I was never worried about Ryder. Not like the aching I felt during ME3 with Shepard, or Trespasser with Quizzy. And I agree that it would be nice to see the enemy react to you and your choices more. The Archon wasn't much more present than Corypheus. It's strange, too, since the first time you see him, it's a scene from his perspective rather than Ryder's (there's a term for this). I expected to see that more often throughout the game, but it didn't happen. And for that we need a lgbtq mod I'm sure someone else has said this by this point, but we already have one. Yes we do, but only one, and she's not active at the moment. There are some among us who are certainly responsible and rational enough to do the job, and if it's volunteer work anyway, why not get another one of us to help moderate as well? We need someone here who'll understand our PoV, because right now it's not happening. Quizzy is flat with voice expression but not face, and Ryder is flat with facial expression but not voice. Guess having both is too much to ask One day we will have both. I hope. Ha, I hope so too. Maybe in that game, we'll also get equal romance content for everyone! /Unrealistic-but-totally-reasonable expectations The fact that he makes the almost exact same "peace, exploration, discovery and finding my place" speeches that Cora, Vetra, Jaal and Peebee do doesn't help make him distinct from all the other squadmates either. Now that you mention it, it is strange that even though the question "Why Andromeda?" was treated as very important in-universe, most of the less standard answers came from random NPCs. That said, it makes sense that most people's answers would be some variation of "Exploration" or "A Better Beginning". I did notice that almost everyone in the game had the same reasons for being in Andromeda. "I finally feel like I have a purpose, especially with you." *Heart eyes* What, you mean you wouldn't go to another galaxy to find that special someone? Amateur This one is really strange too since it is Jenifer Hale flirting with Jennifer Hale, also poor Theron everyone flirt with his parents lel Ha, that's pretty strange indeed All of the non-Kotaku pieces I've seen about this cite Kotaku in their reporting. Kotaku only has "four sources close to the company." There hasn't been any official statement regarding anything, other than that vague EA statement that says, "Even as BioWare continues to focus on the Mass Effect Andromeda community and live service, we are constantly looking at how we're prepared for the next experiences we will create," and, "There will be much more to come from BioWare in the years ahead." This doesn't look much different from the same pattern that they've been doing for all of their games now, including for DAI. The fact that they also have this new IP in development means that they are going to be shuffling people around for a long while as long as there isn't a game in full production mode. [edit] I've been wondering if Bioware is going to stretch themselves thin with this new IP. But then when you consider that it might be a "live service" game, it sort of makes me wonder whether creating it was a command from on high to "join the live service market" so the studio justifies its existence outside of developing two major SP franchises that players have to wait years between. Just think: now that MEA is released, fans of Bioware SP games have nothing to do but wait. This is in addition to the fact that not all players of ME are fans of DA, and vice versa. So it will be even longer for those single franchise players. I keep telling myself they're just rumours, but if true, it makes me sad. ME:A certainly had problems, and Bioware needs to learn from them, but I don't think putting the franchise on hold will solve anything. And... well, Bioware-style RPGs are by far my favourite type of game. They're immersive, I get to create my own character, and they're story/character-heavy. Occasionally, I even like a romance option. And I like scifi more than fantasy (I'm a huge space nerd), so it hurts more with Mass Effect. No one else makes RPGs quite the same way, otherwise I wouldn't be as sad. I can't just go out and find some clones like I could with CoD or a sports game. You're right that it sucks having to wait years in between installments, even if you play both franchises. Speaking of franchises, I have no hype for the new IP. Not after hearing that it might be something online-based, like an MMO. It's not what I play Bioware games for. It's also probably something they should have given Bioware Montreal to do rather than their flagship franchise, especially considering after ME3, there was a lot riding (ha, Ryder jokes) on ME:A. Should have put their best people on it. Hmm, there is a distinct lack of gifs in this post. Let's remedy that.
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 13, 2017 3:38:33 GMT
Yeah, back at...I want to say Gaymerx? Someone asked him who his DAI otp was and he said Dorian/Bull, so that definitely factored into the favoritism. I know about this. It adds to my salt, to be honest, even if it doesn't take away from the game's presentation of the Dorian romance for me. The question was about his OTP in general. First he said Maric/Loghain, then he specifically mentioned Dorian/Bull from DAI. Now I should be clear that I never in a million years would have expected him to say Inquisitor/Dorian. Or really, any of the PC/NPC romance's that he's done. (I believe he has said that he liked Morrigan's friendship arc with fem Warden quite a bit.) I just wish he had kept that part of it to himself after answering "Maric/Loghain." It was disappointing, and yeah, it does make me feel that, as Dorian's writer, he personally values that romance over the one he wrote for the Inquisitor. Yeah, I completely understand that. I have no idea what Weekes feels about the ship beyond him obviously liking it a lot and supporting the fans of it, since he wrote it and everything, and I'm completely ok with that, ha. I even prefer it. Especially given how the writers' opinions influence fandom, I do prefer them to keep them a little under wraps? That's probably not very fair, I admit - these are, of course, their characters - but I like the 4th wall to remain fairly firmly intact in general. I don't really need to know which whether the ME writers prefer Shakarian or Shenko, lol. IME as fun as it is for some, it also necessarily disappoints others or adds unnecessary ammo to silly shipping wars and that sort of thing, which can make fandom very unpleasant. I will say, if they do another involved NPC romance again, I hope they steer clear of involving the lgbt LI's in it since there's always fewer of them (and you potentially end up with a repeat of the DAI situation of pairing off the only two m/m options in a romance that some people feel gets preferential or better content than their PC romances, which is kind of shitty even if that's not the intention.) I'd laugh and laugh if two of the fan favorite straight LI's hooked up and stayed together, for once. I can't imagine the fandom reaction would be great; I'm already getting flashbacks to Isabela/Fenris, and that was an obvious fling.
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Post by Steelcan on May 13, 2017 3:48:22 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 13, 2017 3:49:58 GMT
I know about this. It adds to my salt, to be honest, even if it doesn't take away from the game's presentation of the Dorian romance for me. The question was about his OTP in general. First he said Maric/Loghain, then he specifically mentioned Dorian/Bull from DAI. Now I should be clear that I never in a million years would have expected him to say Inquisitor/Dorian. Or really, any of the PC/NPC romance's that he's done. (I believe he has said that he liked Morrigan's friendship arc with fem Warden quite a bit.) I just wish he had kept that part of it to himself after answering "Maric/Loghain." It was disappointing, and yeah, it does make me feel that, as Dorian's writer, he personally values that romance over the one he wrote for the Inquisitor. Yeah, I completely understand that. I have no idea what Weekes feels about the ship beyond him obviously liking it a lot and supporting the fans of it, since he wrote it and everything, and I'm completely ok with that, ha. I even prefer it. Especially given how the writers' opinions influence fandom, I do prefer them to keep them a little under wraps? That's probably not very fair, I admit - these are, of course, their characters - but I like the 4th wall to remain fairly firmly intact in general. I don't really need to know which whether the ME writers prefer Shakarian or Shenko, lol. IME as fun as it is for some, it also necessarily disappoints others or adds unnecessary ammo to silly shipping wars and that sort of thing, which can make fandom very unpleasant. I will say, if they do another involved NPC romance again, I hope they steer clear of involving the lgbt LI's in it since there's always fewer of them (and you potentially end up with a repeat of the DAI situation of pairing off the only two m/m options in a romance that some people feel gets preferential or better content than their PC romances, which is kind of shitty even if that's not the intention.) I'd laugh and laugh if two of the fan favorite straight LI's hooked up and stayed together, for once. I can't imagine the fandom reaction would be great - flashbacks to Isabela/Fenris, and that was an obvious fling. I can assure you the fan reaction would horrible - Garrus/Tali. You know, two characters who only hook up at the last minute of ME3 for what may only be a 'don't want to be alone at the end of the world' fling if Shepard has not romanced them. I can not begin to count how often I've seen 'Tali better keep her hands off my man!' reactions.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 13, 2017 3:55:41 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread Must you poke the hornet's nest once a day? There are quite a few posters here that I consider to be fair minded that would be just fine. We do have Nat, after all, but she is off with personal time. Being a mod is a big responsibility, so I wouldn't foist that on anyone who didn't want the position and also had the personal time to carry it out. This should be a community in which to enjoy oneself as a fan, and connect with other fans, not a second job. Additionally, some LGBT players find a level of stress in dealing with this fandom that, quite frankly, is not present for straight players. So that's a factor as well.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on May 13, 2017 3:56:08 GMT
Yeah...
That attitude is just creepy and possessive if you ask me.
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Post by blastoandbubin on May 13, 2017 3:56:27 GMT
Oh god, I don't know how I forgot about the Talibrations thing. I must have managed to block it from my memory. Between the quarian harlot stealing away their man and their bff breaking the sacred bro code...yeah, there's no way them doing that again would work out well.
I think a little bit of irrational jealousy is normal, as long as you can admit that it's irrational and a little dumb? It's silly, but people are human and they get attached to their favorite characters. But when it gets to the level of acting like these are real people who've wronged you, or like it's the end of the world that your fictional computer girlfriend or boyfriend hooked up with another set of pixels because you didn't click the heart option...that's when it's time to take a step back, lol. The hate Tali got for even breathing in Garrus's direction was crazy.
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Post by Steelcan on May 13, 2017 3:58:09 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread Must you poke the hornet's nest once a day? There are quite a few posters here that I consider to be fair minded that would be just fine. We do have Nat, after all, but she is off with personal time. Being a mod is a big responsibility, so I wouldn't foist that on anyone who didn't want the position and also had the personal time to carry it out. This should be a community in which to enjoy oneself as a fan, and connect with other fans, not a second job. at least, normally though I like to get in at least three or four pokes.
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Post by Steelcan on May 13, 2017 3:58:51 GMT
Oh god, I don't know how I forgot about the Talibrations thing. I must have managed to block it from my memory. Between the quarian harlot stealing away their man and their bff breaking the sacred bro code...yeah, there's no way them doing that again would work out well. I can't imagine the insanity made manifest that is the Tali fanbase was pleased with it either
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Post by Crim on May 13, 2017 4:00:27 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread
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Post by Davrin's boobs on May 13, 2017 4:02:16 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread you dont love me? I thought we had something
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 13, 2017 4:04:37 GMT
Tall quarian gay dude
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Post by Steelcan on May 13, 2017 4:04:37 GMT
if there were to be a new mod to cover this thread that is LGBT, I sincerely hope they don't just draw from the regular on this thread you dont love me? I thought we had something oh we do, I have something with most of the people on this thread, I assume its a mutual distrust tinged with some animosity
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Post by Dirk on May 13, 2017 4:05:42 GMT
I think Liam might also be at a further disadvantage with the overall writing. Like you said, he pulled a gun on Peebee, but if he's not in that scene, it's Cora that pulls the gun. Someone is going to pull the gun there and because Liam has the higher priority over Cora in that scene, it usually falls to him. I ran Liam through the salarian mission with all the companions and I noticed that based on how the game prioritizes them, one person will do the "complaining" while the other does the "reacting." For some reason, Liam has higher priority than everyone except Cora in the "complaining." If Cora is in the group with him, she is the complainer, saying the exact same things he says. Liam was very consistent on my first game because I only brought him out on missions. I didn't drive around in the Nomad with him and didn't understand the complaints about his banter until my second game. There's a big disconnect between Tempest Liam and Nomad Liam. I have no idea what happened there. This follower prioritizing is common. DAI plays out that way as well. I've noticed that if I bring both Dorian and Solas along on certain quests, Solas will take priority over Dorian if there are magey things. I can't have that, so off Solas goes. (I don't know what happens with Vivienne, as I've never brought her anywhere regularly.) Oh yes, I remember I was trying to maximize Kaidan's dialogues and it's very difficult if I brought Liara along (except for that Ardat-Yakshi mission in ME3, strangely enough). I hope some guides about the squad priority comes out soon. I remember there was at least one on ME3.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on May 13, 2017 4:06:04 GMT
you dont love me? I thought we had something oh we do, I have something with most of the people on this thread, I assume its a mutual distrust tinged with some animosity
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2017 4:09:04 GMT
Hmm, there is a distinct lack of gifs in this post. Let's remedy that. lol I had that happen to me on Veold recently. I was on top of one of the big mountains too so I was in the air for a long time.
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