The Character Romance thread (Official)

I'd prefer 2/4/2, since then it is more likely they have options for ace people too.

Then again MEA is 2/4/2 now and yet it doesn't.

I am surely glad that they make Jaal bi, but please Bioware, don't do this again and do make sure stuff is equal next time. I cannot handle another drama like this lol.

Brace for disappointment.

I don't even need to have equal options, because clearly, it doesn't seem to be something Bioware strive for. I would just keep my expectations low. If they want to give the gay players the least options, then at least make those options to be high quality, at least one companion, then the contents for the bisexuals need to be differentiated from the females, not just making it for females before modifying for males like Kaidan and Reyes. The bisexual needs to be made with both guys and girls in mind. Scenes or at least dialogues need to be different, regardless of how small. Jaal is the FIRST bisexual male in Bioware game instead of a playersexual character speaking to a cardboard stand-in. Don't jam the "bisexual required the same resource" then make it obvious that the males were made with females first or have them completely identical. I give up on equal number by Bioware, all I need is the bare minimum of 2 quality options with at least one companion. I hope that Bioware gives us our FIRST gay character with no gay angst or gay storyline in the next Dragon Age game. I don't want anymore gay husbands, fag hags, family disapproval, or any of that crap. Just a gay character with an independent storyline. Lesbian characters like Sera and Samantha don't have any mention about their sexuality, the gay characters don't need to have it jam in our storyline to tell a soap story either. If you want a good representation of gay characters, it would be to make them blend in and be a part of the storyline, maybe talking about some random guy they're attracted to. That's how you make sexuality a part of someone, not having them getting sad or angst or being viewed as abnormal for not having kids like Gil and Dorian.

Has anyone seen that episode of Yes Minister where Hacker has already solved the problem but says something like:

Success is not news. I'm going to give them a disaster today, a triumph tomorrow!

BioWare seem to be fans of this approach to game design.

From what I remember, Suvi definitely doesn't have a sex scene or even imply that they had sex, Avela has no sex scene.

People like Vetra and Liam cut without showing any sex scene, so it could be head canon easily that they just kiss and cuddle or something.

Dragon Age team has LGBT heads in it, like David Gaider, even though he left; there are still people like Mike Laidlaw who from what people said wasn't completely straight. Dragon Age is the one game I may feel disappointed by their romance selection but more confident when it comes to representation. The game has a gay option from the get go, the next game we get 2 options, the following game, we get our first gay companion alongside a bi option. I can see progress. I could see that the DA will reach a point where everyone gets equal options with equal quality in content. Mass Effect team is more conservation in that aspect, but I don't think Dragon Age will make Mass Effect's mistakes.

Yeah, as I've said before Dragon Age: Inquisition is the shining example when it comes to Bioware and representation. Among the main group there is a gay man, a pansexual man, a lesbian, a bisexual woman, and even a woman whose writer stated can be seen as asexual or demisexual. And that's not counting all the LGBT+ characters in the rest of the game. 

When asked about it recently, Ian said that all romances were written with sex in mind, just some were explicit and others implicit. Any ambiguity is a byproduct of the implicitness.
Avela may be the only one who doesn't but then again that's not a shining example of a romance. Even the game doesn't call it anything more than "a flirtation".
Liam and Vetra have fade to black sex scenes, especially Vetra who fades to black right before she gives Ryder oral sex. They both also have squad banter that confirms sex was involved.

However, it was a step backward, ofc, according to me. We already had a squadmate LI in ME (finally...), who were important because was Shepard old friend (at least I felt that way), and in MEA we got TWO HALF romance. I see (accurately I will see, because I don't have time yet), that they FINALLY did good work. But still: WHY only now? 

I'm over the moon happy that Jaal's romance is as well done as it is. Aside from the obvious issues that he's so flirty with the females on board, it's clearly the most well done romance we've had in a BioWare game. So I'm happy with it.

I hope in the future we can have romance options that don't flirt wildly with others though. I really personally don't see the appeal of it. I mean does anyone really want their love interest flirting with other people right in front of them? Is that a thing people like?

I don't have a problem with it, flirting is harmless. I barely even recognise when it's happening, lol.

But if Jaal is gonna flirt, he should also flirt with men.